Quick note....
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 2, 2009 11:18 PM PDT
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PrintHAHAHA! Eat our dust, Adrian Gonzalez! The gap is just going to grow larger and larger for the rest of the season, and there isn't a thing you can do about it, Adrian.
Man, what a joke. Only two more home runs for the Giants, and Gonzalez will be a full half-dozen behind.
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That's freakin hilarious
Still even though he’s on a rival team I can’t bring myself to root against him seeing as how he’s constantly underrated.
That player is not yet rated as highly as he could be.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 2, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Is he unrated?
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I hate that he’s on the Padres, because he’s the greatest Mexican ballplayer since Valenzuela…another with an unfortunate team affiliation. Oh well. At least we have Romo.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 3, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I heart Adrian Gonzalez
He’s probably the NL MVP behind Pujols. Where the hell would the Padres be without the guy?
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Third place?
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by GiantsFanInExile on Jun 3, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I, uh…I think that’s not good.
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GONZLOLEZ!
Did i do it right?!?!?
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This past 6 months has been kicking my ass like 2009 is Chris Brown and every aspect of my life is Rihanna...
… but DAMN, that depresses me even further.
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GROUND ATTACK!
I’m going to cry now.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 3, 2009 12:01 AM PDT reply actions
I was gonna say
“you know what’s worse? [insert name of team here] has even fewer than the Giants!!”, but then I checked and no other team even has fewer than 30. Holy shit our offense is horrendous. Again.
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Now that I'm lookin around
we also have the fewest PAs of anyone in the league. And the fewest walks, lowest SLG, and 2nd lowest OBP behind just AZ.
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Also, the only team with less than 200 runs scored right now… 6 behind Seattle… 101 behind The Spankees and Rays.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually it should read through 50 games
and never mind. I checked the Giants media notes on May 26, 2008, through 49 games. The Giants hit 33. So the Giants are BEHIND last year’s pace.
Also, look at who was in our bullpen at the time: Alex Hinshaw, Vinnie Chulk, Billy Sadler, Jack Taschner, Erick Threets, Tyler Walker, Brian Wilson and Keiichi Yabu. No wonder why we sucked more last year (20-29).
Man, there’s only one holdover from this time last year.
That’s some impressive rebullpenning.
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D: holy lord
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Seeing as Molina, Winn, Renteria and Rowand are making almost $40M this year, I doubt it.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 3, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
How about this one
Adrian Gonzales: 3 WAR so far this season.
Giants starting offense: 1.8 WAR
Yes, that is correct. Had we instead fielded a team of 7 replacement level players and Adrian Gonzales, we likely would have won more games.
Kinda like this?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SFG/2007.shtml
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hey!
Bengie was ~average, and the RF/CF were above replacement value!
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I remember early in that season when the lineup was so bad I was HOPING they’d give Klesko more time at first.
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Klesko was pretty good for the first few months of that year.
Well, looking at the STATS, he wasn’t good in April. But May and June were good months for him.
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Yeah, my recollection is that he really fell off the cliff right around the time they started playing him every day.
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Jesus fucking christ
25 had a 1 fucking 70 OPS+ in his last season and still nobody will sign him. God damn.
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instead of a team
of 8 replacement players?
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January 6, 2006: Traded by the Texas Rangers with Terrmel Sledge and Chris Young to the San Diego Padres for Billy Killian (minors), Adam Eaton and Akinori Otsuka.
Sigh.
Padres make a bad trade = Giants get hosed (’93, anyone?)
Padres make a good trade = Giants get hosed
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 3, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Which is worse in hindsight?
The Gonzales trade or the Pierzynski trade?
Giants got 1 year of mediocre catcher in exchange for an All-Star closer, a starter who put up one ace-like season, and a back-of-the-rotation starter who may now be done.
Rangers got one crappy year of Adam Eaton, two decent years of Akinori Otsuka, and a minor league washout in exchange for one MVP candidate who’s now just 27, a starter who’s been decent-to-very-good over the last 4 years and is now 30, and a washout.
I think if I were a GM I’d be more embarrassed to have made the Gonzales trade.
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I know I was pretty displeased with the Rangers at the time of the trade.
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Plenty of shame to go around.
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probably beaten to death but...
June 27, 2002: Grady Sizemore
Traded by the Montreal Expos with Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips and Lee Stevens to the Cleveland Indians for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew
too bad the Indians had to trade Phillps for nothing
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July 31, 1997: Jason Varitek
Traded by the Seattle Mariners with Derek Lowe to the Boston Red Sox for Heathcliff Slocumb.
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When you're feeling down.
November 19, 1993: Pedro Martinez
Traded by the Los Angeles Dodgers to the Montreal Expos for Delino DeShields.
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"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Some more
July 31, 1997: Mark McGwire
Traded by the Oakland Athletics to the St. Louis Cardinals for Eric Ludwick, T.J. Mathews and Blake Stein.
August 30, 1990: Jeff Bagwell
Traded by the Boston Red Sox to the Houston Astros for Larry Andersen.
August 12, 1987: John Smoltz
Traded by the Detroit Tigers to the Atlanta Braves for Doyle Alexander.
July 18, 1993: Fred McGriff
Traded by the San Diego Padres to the Atlanta Braves for Vince Moore, Donnie Elliott and Melvin Nieves.
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Trade deadline deals (and after) always look bad in hindsight.. McGwire was a FA, Doyle Alexander went 9-0 with a 1.53 ERA to help Detroit in their pennant race. Fuck the Fred McGriff trade though
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With McGwire, it’s a matter of what they got in return – it did make sense to trade him.
With Smoltz/Alexander, it’s a question of the incredible amount of value the Braves got out of Smoltz. To be fair, though, there’s no way the Tigers could’ve known that. Smoltz was pretty much stinking it up in AA at the time they traded him.
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In a similar vein
March 30, 1992: Sammy Sosa
Traded by the Chicago White Sox with Ken Patterson to the Chicago Cubs for George Bell.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
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Okay, one more
December 10, 1981: Ozzie Smith
Traded by the San Diego Padres with a player to be named later and Steve Mura to the St. Louis Cardinals for a player to be named later, Sixto Lezcano and Garry Templeton.
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To be fair
The 1981 version of Ozzie Smith couldn’t hit at all. His combined OPS+ to date was about 66. He was more like Ozzie Guillen than OZZIE SMITH. Kind of a Rey Ordonez.
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That was part of a list of trades that were mainly bad in hindsight, like the Sosa and Smoltz ones.
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Which brings us back to the first Adrian Gonzalez trade. The Marlins dealt him for the stretch run in 2003 for Ugueth Urbina. That doesn’t look so pretty, but Urbina helped them get to the playoffs and win the WS. Something Gonzalez couldn’t have done with Derek Lee playing first.
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When the Marlins traded Derrek Lee, that didn’t work out too well either.
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one of the greatest….DeShields didn’t do crap in LA, and Pedro was just Ramon’s short little brother pitching out of the bullpen
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Holy shit
that is fucking awful. How do we not hear more about that? I know colon was better back then, but that’s 3 super star-caliber players right there. Wow.
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All this makes me feel a little better about Sabean.
He may be bad, but he’s not the worst ever!
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YEAH!
Just like top 5! Wooo!
Also, that trade does look a little less bad with Bonser and Liriano’s struggles, but Nathan alone made it fucking retarded. Liriano will turn it around.
But yeah.
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2.. Phillips is in no way a star-caliber player..
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umwut
a 2B with pretty good power and a really good glove? I guess all-star caliber is a stupid way to evaluate a player anyways, since 1 guy from every team, no matter how shittty, HAS to be in. Phillips is really good though.
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There is a difference between “all-star caliber” and “star caliber”. I think Brandon Phillips is both.
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He has a 121 OPS+ this year and hit 30 home runs in 2007. For a second baseman, that’s pretty valuable. He’s a really good defensive player, too.
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And this one is a favorite
Glenn Davis
January 10, 1991: Traded by the Houston Astros to the Baltimore Orioles for Steve Finley, Pete Harnisch and Curt Schilling.
But of course they dealt Schilling less than 1 year later for Jason Grimsley
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That's like one every 65 ABs or so... is that bad?
Just for comparison the Rangers lead the league with 84
/hangs self
Seriously, has anyone seen my adopted brother?
This is funny but oh-so sad at the same time.
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 3, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
I knew this happened with Babe Ruth, but geez.
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Hey, you know what's also kind of sad?
Adrian Gonzalez has hit that many home runs, and yet the Padres have only scored nine runs more than us. Just nine. AND they’ve played two more games.
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Gonzalez, schmonzalez. A gamer appreciates a balanced scoring attack.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 3, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah? How many game leadoff homers do A-Gon has? That’s right, 2 less than Mr. Rowand.
I thought Gonzalez was gonna have another decent year (30-35 jacks, 120 RBIs) but he is really on a home run binge spraying them all over the field. Can somebody remind me why the Marlins and Rangers gave up on him when he was the #1 overall pick out of high school (usually means very high potential) and didn’t dabble into drugs like another #1 pick out of high school?
Oh well, I’m patiently waiting to Bust-a-Pose soon.
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It’s ok folks. Just remember that at this point in the season Aaron Rowand has more HR’s then David Ortiz.
If you told me in the offseason that 50 games in Rowand would have more jacks then Ortiz I would have laughed in your face.
Not me
I knew Ortiz was finished. Dude was a joke last year.
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I guess I would have thought more than 1
but I remember when we were doing our yahoo draft and he was rated like 50th overall or something, I was like “WTF?”. I wouldn’t have drafted him in the last round.
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but we can all agree, can't we
that this was the best off-season Sabean has had, of all the off-seasons he has had when he failed to address the offense.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Jun 3, 2009 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
I think he’s saying that while Sabean continued to not acquire any offensive help, at least he didn’t saddle us with any more Roberts/Rowand type contracts.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
and improved the bullpen
and signed Johnson into the rotation, ans sprinkled magic “suck-a-lot-less-than-before” dust on Zito, and got Uribe (way better than Castillo)
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
Yeah
even though I fucking hate Juan Uribe, I’m comin around. I still hate that he’s playing every day, but he’s a very serviceable utility infielder. That play he made last night to (momentarily) save the game was pretty awesome.
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it’s basically a [failed] attempt to mock sabean’s supporters.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Jun 3, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
"failed" to address
What is Edgar Renteria? Chopped Liver?
Brought the Giants SS sOPS from 66 all the way up to 86. That’s generally considered to be above replacement level. By some people.
Sadly, the same cannot be said of the Ishikawa/Aurillia experiment which is somehow, impossibly, actually worse than last year.
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Seriously
I didnt even think we had 26
Heres it is:
Molina- 8 Hrs
Rowand- 6
Lewis- 3
Sandoval – 3
Renteria and Winn- 2
Torres, Ishi, Aurilia- 1
lemme make sure here. 8+6+3+3+2+2+1+1+1= gets calculator = 27?
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