San Francisco Giants Draft Preview, Part III: Tanner Scheppers
by Grant on Jun 2, 2009 12:00 AM PDT
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If you really want to save some time, you can just bookmark the following passage:
There you go. When you talk about potential, every one of these amateur prospects can be analogous to Kirby Puckett with more power, Mike Mussina from the left side, or Barry Larkin without a graham cracker body if you set the dream-o-meter to full tilt. That's what makes the draft so danged fun for the pie-in-the-sky types like myself. You realists aren't as impressed, but you're also the type to walk out of Star Wars muttering, "There's no sound in space." Let us have our fun.
That written, there are always a couple of players in every draft that I just don't want to see go to the Giants for whatever reason. The throw-yourself-down-the-stairs player, if you will. It's unfair to single out one poster, of course, as we've all made similar comments about something that didn't pan out, but the whole stairs thing really had a ring to it.
This year's draft has a definite TYDTS player for me. From a scouting report at Prospect Insider:
No. Just no. Nein. Mah nguh. Oxi. Nyet. Bu. No. Just no. The sixth pick is for a high schooler; the sixth pick is for a collegiate star; the sixth pick might even be for a player in the independent leagues. The sixth pick is for position players; the sixth pick is for pitchers. If the fastball is lively enough, and the control is otherworldly, you might even talk me into saying the sixth pick is for college closers.
The sixth pick is not for pitchers who already have a history of shoulder injuries. Just no.
Late in the draft? Take a chance. I love that strategy. The Giants drafted Brian Wilson -- who was once mentioned as a top-of-the-first-round kind of draft prospect - in the 24th round, knowing he was recovering from Tommy John surgery. I'd guess the Giants offered a little chunk of change and the chance to rehab with the backing of an MLB organization. It worked out well for both parties.
Sixth pick? No. Just no. Scheppers might have the best non-Strasburg stuff in the draft. He might project to be an absolute monster, with a hopping fastball and off-the-table curve. But he's already had shoulder wonkiness. Even if he had elbow problems, I could almost see taking a chance. The shoulder is just such a nebulous part of the pitcher's body. The elbow isn't exactly easy to patch up, but you can replace ligaments a hell of a lot easier than you can labrums. I don't even know what a labrum is, but I know that shoulder surgeries are the one-handed-bra-snap of the orthopedic surgeon's world -- even with a lot of practice, sometimes the results just aren't there.
Chris Carpenter had a shoulder injury, went away for a while, and then came back to win a Cy Young. It isn't a death sentence, and I hope Scheppers stays healthy. I'll pull for the guy, so long as he doesn't go to a division rival, even if Fresno State can kiss my Spartan backside. In a sense, I'm taking a similar stance to risk vs. reward that Dave Cameron of USS Mariner did when he wrote:
Yeah, that comment might not have aged especially well, but I think the larger point stands. And we're not talking about funky mechanics or iffy control, we're talking about a pitcher who missed last year's College World Series because of a barking shoulder.
No. Just no.
Well, maybe.
But probably no. Most likely no. Just no.
MLB.com 2009 Draft Report
MLB.com 2008 Draft Report
Brewerfan.net - Profile: Tanner Scheppers
Redsminorleagues.com profile
Story about Scheppers possibly being linked to the Mariners
Fresno State profile
For some reason, Scheppers doesn't have anything up on YouTube, so here's the ubiquitous Ninja Cat
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Not a big fan of Scheppers for our pick either. I liked him last year before he got injured, although i wouldn’t have taken him this high, and he was the 3rd best pitcher in that class but he was never a can’t miss talent. Adding his injury makes him somewhat of a question mark, he could well end up a good selection for a team picking later but for me the risk-reward just isn’t worth it given the other talented players available at our slot.
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by GiantFan on Jun 2, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, why take a shoulder problem when Matzek/Crow are pretty much guaranteed to be available? Nothing against Chris Carpenter, he’s had some amazing success, and he looks incredible this year, but he has also been on the DL since the Reagan era. This may be a weak draft class, but a) we need a bat over an arm and b) we need a good, reliable arm over an amazing, inconsistent arm. Lincecum and Bumgarner are going to anchor one of the best starting rotations in Major League history; we’re not hurting for aces.
Pick Donovan Tate and be done with it.
by quincy0191 on Jun 2, 2009 2:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers and Grant Green are the two supposedly top picks I’d stay away from. The top of this draft is just so full of good arms that, I agree, there’s absolutely no reason to take one that’s already had shoulder troubles. Pass.
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by Smoke on the Water on Jun 2, 2009 2:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fresno State can kiss my Spartan backside.
Yeah!
And no to Scheppers for all the reasons listed.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 2, 2009 7:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
boo
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jun 2, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boo to you, sir.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 2, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We still got a couple more weeks of this! I’m going to get my money’s worth, believe that.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 2, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But then we only have to drop the Reigning part. Fresnonians will be talking about that team for 20 more years, much like they did about the Terry Pendleton teams.
by Fresburg on Jun 2, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer “Fresnoids.”
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 2, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit, the Fresno/Clovis metropolitan area is still talking about the Boyd Grant days of Pete Verhoeven, Bernard Thompson and Rod Higgins for God’s sake.
by seyheystretch on Jun 2, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pete’s a family friend. His son is already dominating the high school ranks as a freshman.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jun 2, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In college i scrimmaged with them. Had to (attempt to) guard a guy named Tyron Bradley mostly. Quickest mfer I’ve ever seen.
by seyheystretch on Jun 2, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m really unhappy that San Jose State did not make the CWS field. They won 40 games and got nothing.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 2, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if there's a more fun group of guys to follow in the CWS
I haven’t seen them yet.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 2, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
O State Ballaz!
though they are out this year
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by cloudydays on Jun 2, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck 'em both
GO WOLF PACK!
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by NuschlerFace on Jun 2, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
boo to you as well, sir
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 2, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny, all three of DrB’s “throw myself down the stairs” players are guys we’d be really happy to have in the system now.
by Evan on Jun 2, 2009 8:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tanner Schneppers: Scion of a wealthy soda-making family.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 2, 2009 8:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Make that “soda-making and leather producing” family.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 2, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only he was a position player, then he would have “pop”
On second thought, he does have “pop” as in his shoulder “poping” out
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by say hey nation on Jun 2, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost kinda wish we were drafting in the 15-20 range where we would be able to take Scheppers. How’s that for wishy-washy? I like his stuff, I LOVE his alma mater and I think, if healthy, he’ll be a solid MLB starter. But a you said, at #6, that is just too much risk for my blood. Let’s trade down!
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 2, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOVE his alma mater
I hope you’re just referring to the baseball program. I am a FSU fan, but even I have a hard time falling in love with:
This
This
This
And, of course, this
Yeah, they gave us some good years, but man, Tarkanian just ran this program into the ground, and who knows if they’ll ever recover.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 2, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tarkanian, Fresno State wait for end of probe
classic
by Fresburg on Jun 2, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a deal with the devil and they knew it. They wanted to get that new on campus arena built and the only way was to hire Tark. Everyone knew what they were getting at that point and I think they just figured the arena and short term popularity was worth the cost.
True story: I’m leaving my apartment in Fresno when a guy on a bike starts waving me down. I stop and he roles up and says “Hey, I’m Dominic Young. Have any weed?” This was two years after he was THE man and this is what he had fallen too. I’ll never forget it.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 2, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That story is simultaneously amusing and sad.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what did it get us?
One NCAA tourney win. Bah. Even if it helped us get the SMC built, it probably wasn’t worth it.
Well, perhaps it was worth it. Maybe. Still, I’d rather have what we have now (a shitty team with good kids who graduate) than go through all that again.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 2, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
that is incredibly funny. but wow, could that kid shoot the ball.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 2, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want him solely because of how fucking awkward his name is. It’s like Madison Bumgarner squared.
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by jponry on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
IAWTC
When you have a messed up last name, you’re better off giving your kids simple first names. How much easier would their lives had been if they were named James Bumgarner and David Scheppers? Imagine if it was Jebediah Lincecum. You should be creative if you have a simple last name like “Smith”. Tanner Smith, Madison Williams. Parents need to think about these things.
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by ResDog on Jun 2, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Jebediah Scheppers wouldn’t be so bad. It’s the two names ending with an “-er” noise that just doesn’t work.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 2, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I love reading all the negative comments about Lincecum in that USS Mariner thread. :’)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 2, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And really what concerns me most about Lincecum is the terrible lack of control. Injury risk aside, and it’s hard to evaluate since he’s an outlier, he’s useless now, stuff or no. Whoever d®afts him is betting the pick that his control can be refined to the point where he’ll be effective in the Bigs. Like Dave, I’d rather make that bet in the bottom of the 1st round than at the top, and would really rather not make it at all. I mean, you could probably pick up J. Affeldt from the Royals for a lot less, his upside and downsides are comparable to Tim’s, and Affeldt has major league experience now, too. Why spend a pick for that??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 2, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOW WE HAVE BOTH
Victory is ours!
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 2, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also liked this post
by superk1ng on Jun 2, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaahahaha
I love the work DMZ and Dave Cameron do but I also like seeing things like this.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 2, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops. I probably wouldn’t have linked back to that post if I knew it was a sore spot.
by Grant on Jun 2, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you won’t be invited to the Secret Baseball Bloggers’ Club. :(
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 2, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if you just e-mailed him a cool animated gif of a guy beating a dead horse? That always relieves my poor-front-office-decision-related stress.
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by antinous on Jun 2, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may just be pulling this out of my ass
but isn’t his shoulder injury a stress fracture? And if so, how does that make him injury prone? A broken bone sounds more like a freak accident than a recurring injury problem. Shouldn’t that kind of thing heal okay?
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by boonitez on Jun 2, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They said it was a stress fracture at first, but they backed off of that.
by Grant on Jun 2, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though I went to Fresno State, and I would love to root for a guy from our school, I still can’t recommend Scheppers for the #6 pick… as much as I want to, I just can’t. If he and Crow go in the top 5, I have a feeling that the Giants will have a chance at getting Ackley. I would prefer a position player, but I think Ackley is the only one worthy of a top pick. If he’s not around, and Crow is, then pickup Crow. If Crow and Ackley aren’t there, then get that high school left hander. If all three of these guys are gone, then go after Scheppers, maybe.
If there is a kid from Fresno that the Giants should take a look at, it’s Mendonca with the 3rd round pick. He’s projected around the 85th best prospect, from the list that I was looking at. A gold medal winning Olympian. CWS MVP, who hit 27 HR’s in 230 AB’s, a .300+ average and a great glove at 3rd base.
by aBulldog on Jun 2, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We definitely aren’t getting Ackley, as much as I’d like to.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 2, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
99% chance that we won’t, but I have seen a few draft projections where they had him going to the Giants… so there’s that small glimmer of hope. If we get one of these pitchers, it would at least give us another prospect, and I could stomach losing one of the pitchers we have now, NOT named Lincecum, Bumgarner, Alderson and especially not Cain, who is pitching like an All Star…. so in other words, I wouldn’t mind losing someone like Jonathan Sanchez in a trade.
by aBulldog on Jun 2, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/starts rumor that Ackley does cocaine and needs a $13M bonus to support his cocaine habit because Dustin Ackley has a cocaine problem.
by Grant on Jun 2, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dustin Ackley cocaine Dustin Ackley cocaine
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 2, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dustin Ackley, 1st baseman of the UNC Tarheels, does crack cocaine. Dustin Ackley, 1st baseman of the UNC Tarheels, does crack cocaine. Dustin Ackley, 1st baseman of the UNC Tarheels, does crack cocaine. Dustin Ackley, 1st baseman of the UNC Tarheels, does crack cocaine. Dustin Ackley, 1st baseman of the UNC Tarheels, does crack cocaine.
Sweet. Now McC will be the first Google entry for both “I hate AJ Pierzynski” and “Dustin Ackley does cocaine.”
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by boonitez on Jun 2, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEAH, uh… I too have heard of his cocaine dependency. If I had a top 5 pick this year, I wouldn’t waste it on a guy like him..lol.
by aBulldog on Jun 2, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard about Dustin Ackley’s cocaine problem as well. I’d say that it definitely drops him down to, oh, the 6th slot in the draft.
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by rotorueter on Jun 2, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*breaking news*
SI has reported that Steven Strausberg is a nazi and he eats babies.
/still gets picked 1st
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jun 2, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
COCAINE IS DUSTIN ACKLEY COCAINE
HE DOES COCAINE DUSTIN ACKLEY UNC TAR HEELS COCAINE
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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by baetown415 on Jun 2, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Black tar heroin is more believable
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 3, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two words
Len Bias
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by tedfordfan on Jun 2, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on Scheppers, disagree with Cameron on the lottery pick thing. I think you should draft with the hope of bringing in high-upside, impact players. Even the “safe” picks aren’t really safe.
As for Scheppers, in addition to the shoulder thing last year, he also sat out the summer before his junior year to rest. I’d stay away from him this high in the draft, given the other options. Not that I’m going to throw myself down the escalator or anything.
by Dan from NM on Jun 2, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No to Scheppers
At least until the much later rounds, for no other reason than the Giants’ history of drafting Fresno St. players isn’t exactly paved with gold. (Hosey, Chiraramonte, Soderstrom, and anyone else I’m missing…)
OK, they got some use out of Dan Gladden, but he was a free agent signee, not a draftee.
At least they weren’t the ones who drafted Eddie Zosky.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 2, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d nominate DrB throwing himself down the stairs and OGC’s “Jerome williams is on the A’s?” as the two funniest moments in McC history.
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by Goofus on Jun 2, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What about this ?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on Jun 2, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mean to single out Dr. B, as it was just an offhand comment, but it got legs when the Giants actually drafted Bumgarner. The draft thread was filled with stairs references. And then to have Bumgarner turn out to be a good prospect was the icing on the funny cake. It was just memorable, and I don’t want Dr.B to think I’m picking on him.
by Grant on Jun 2, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And then there’s the uneasy comedy associated with the fact that Dr. B doesn’t seem to be around any more. "Maybe he actually threw himself down the stairs! HEHEHEH heh, hm um, hmph… :( "
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 2, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, relax. Nobody reads your posts anyway.
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by Cookyman on Jun 2, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tanner Scheppers: YES
If the SF medical staff agrees with the Anaheim Angels doctor that Scheppers is medically sound then absolutely the Giants should consider him. Former SS who now toes the rubber. Low mileage on arm. Is pitching pain-free, fine form and velocity in Indy league. Main quesiton is his command.
If Strasburg, Crow, Ackley, Leake and Miller are off the board then Scheppers is the man.
Question: Why is everyone so taken with Tyler Matzek? Is it because many mock drafts have the Giants taking Matzek? Remember last season when Smoak was mocked for the Giants and everyone hopped on board? So many were disappointed. Forget the groupthink.
by wilriv21 on Jun 2, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t know much about Matzek but his package of size, lefthandability, and 4 pitches including a mid 90s (touching high according to some, though I don’t really care about that) fastball makes me intriguing to me.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on Jun 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:D:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on Jun 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t know much about Matzek but his package of size
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 2, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t know much about Matzek but his package of size, lefthandability
How do you know his package of size is lefthandable?
Maybe I’m trying to hard for that one.
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jun 2, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
I was on the Posey Patrol the whole time.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on Jun 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Matzek because he’s generally considered to have the best command of all the HS pitchers. He has the ability to have 4 future average to plus pitches, he’s a lefty, and his fastball he can throw in the mid 90s is already a plus offering. Being compared to Cole Hamels isn’t too shabby either. I’ve also seen him compared to Brian Matusz. He sounds like the “safest” of the HS pitchers because of his polish but also seems to have a great amount of upside as well.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 2, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tanner Scheppers: YEPPERS
Precise injury information can be hard to come by with college players, as the NCAA is able to shield private health information more effectively than Major League Baseball. Our sources are telling us that Scheppers’ 2008 shoulder injury was merely muscular, not structural. If the reports we’re getting are accurate, Scheppers may only be a minor mechanical correction away from avoiding a similar injury to the one he had in 2008 in the future.
But don’t college pitchers have too much muscle memory established to make changes to their mechanics upon turning pro? Couldn’t that kind of adjustment lead to a long-term health risks in itself, you ask?
It’s no secret that Scheppers was recruited by Fresno State to play shortstop. It didn’t take the Bulldogs long to convert him to a pitcher. And we believe he was only beginning to tap into his pitching potential in 2008. Reports from Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com (information from 2/29/08 and 4/16/09) show an increase in Scheppers’ fastball velocity since 2008. He was sitting at 95 MPH last month.
There aren’t many starters anywhere who can throw that hard. Add a potential above-average curveball to the mix, and you may have a future No.1-2 starter and strong candidate to be taken in the top third of the first round.
by baseballjunkie on Jun 2, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No. Just no. Nein. Mah nguh. Oxi. Nyet. Bu. No. Just no.
Bu should be “bu yao” literally “Do not want”. Chinese doesn’t really have a word that works the way “no” does in English.
True fact: this fact is the origin of the “Do Not Want” meme.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 2, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From Wikipedia’s article about Revenge of the Sith:
A copy of the movie leaked into peer-to-peer file sharing networks just hours after opening in theaters…Shortly after the above-mentioned print was leaked, it was released in Shanghai as a bootleg DVD with Chinese subtitles. The unknown producer of this DVD, for unexplained reasons, also elected to include English subtitles, which were in fact translated back into English from the Chinese translation, rather than using the original English script. This translation was particularly inept, translating many characters literally and losing the meaning of words, leading to unintentional humor; the title of the movie, for example, was given as Star War — The third gathers — Backstroke of the West. One error in translation that recurs several times in the film is that the phrase “it seems” (好象) was rendered as “good elephant”. The mis-translation also caused the vulgar word “fuck” (a mis-translation of “work”) to appear three times in the subtitles, and rendered Darth Vader’s cry of “Noooooooo” (不要) as “Do not want.” This last translation error would later be popularized as an internet meme.
Awesomest thing I’ve read in a while.
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 2, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"it seems" (好象) was rendered as "good elephant"
That makes sense!
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by Natto on Jun 2, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Google translate says it means “if”, Babel Fish went with “probably”. So either those sites suck, or Chinese has a phrase the means “it seems”, “if”, “probably” and/or “good elephant”, which would be pretty awesome.
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 2, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The character for “elephant” is the same as the character for “seem”. One of the meanings of “好” is “good”, so hence “good elephant”.
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by Natto on Jun 2, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite subtitles fail ever
Watched an episode of Just Shoot Me with Hebrew subtitles. At some point, one of the men stared at a woman’s large breasts and then, according to the subtitles, was rude enough to ask whether or not they have caffeine in them.
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 2, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm… caffeine…
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 2, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 McCovey bucks to whoever manages to guess what he really asked (don’t need to know Hebrew for that).
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 2, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
something about perkiness?
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 2, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
milk?
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by groug on Jun 2, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I reckon those sites suck.
Funny, I know both those words, but I never really put it together that the 象 in 好象 was the same character as the one in 大象.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 2, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh…yeah.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 2, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the 象 in “好象” had a イ on the side, but looking it up, both seem to work.
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by Natto on Jun 2, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 3, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s Dr. Drafty Draftnovich to you.
Matt Cain: Duck and Cover
by mjrboredom on Jun 2, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Scheppers. So far it seems like he is healthy too from the reports from his Independent League outings. He’s got a good frame and mechanics from what I’ve read. I do think taking him #6 is too high. I doubt we’d take him, but someone is going to get a good pitcher.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 2, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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