Some epic deja vu right there

Fat Ichiro is much better

Next Pujols as in perennial MVP candidate and one of the best hitters ever. I dunno, seems doubtful, although I think Pablo can do very well and with a better line-up around him (and batting in a better RBI environment) we might see him as a MVP candidate based on his performance this year.

Next Albert Pujols as in the face of the Giants’ offense, their should be 3 or 4 hitter, and 6th-tool clubhouse leader. Hell yeah.

that “he’ll develop power” was one of those dumb scout throwaway lines that didn’t really mean anything. And maybe it is, but I’ll be durned if Pablo hasn’t started SOCKING SOME DINGERZZZZ.

If his elbow is better, I’d really rather see him at C, maybe with one start a week at 1B or 3B to save him. If/(more likely) when Posey gets to town, he can find a regular position. He’d be a runaway all-star at C if he gets his hits there instead of at a corner.

And, re Pujols: I’m not a doctor, and I don’t play one on TV, but my considered opinion is that Pablo has not used any chemical enhancements, except maybe flan, to chisel his body into shape.

In that they are both the best hitters on their teams. I don’t see 30-40 home run power in him though. Maybe 25 in a GREAT year.

So the poll options are “yes,” “yes,” “no,” and “oh god, yes!”?

The poll needs a “These are expectations a young player does not need” option.

The obvious difference between the two is that, even in his first pro season (see the stat line above), Albert took walks and controlled the strike zone. Pablo does not do that and, with his highly aggressive approach, likely never will. That’s not necessarily a bad thing. Vlad has succeeded quite nicely without taking many walks. However, Vlad has been merely a great player, while Albert is probably already one of the top-five right-handed hitters of all time.

I’m starting to get the feeling that Pujols was not heavily pursued.

The poll seems to be missing option five:

Pablo hasn’t been in the majors for even a full year. The verdict is still out.

He may be better than Pujols, he may be worse. I doubt he will be better because he does not have the sort of body that holds up over time. He may be an exception to the rule, though.

Pablo is only fat because it would be completely unfair to the rest of the league if he wasn’t.

It does Pablo a disservice to compare him to Albert Pujols. He’s not that good. It’s nothing to be ashamed of that he isn’t.

Nah

Pablo is better than Albert. In time, we will find out that Pujols juiced, whereas Pablo did it on hot dogs!

Albert Pujols looks like the human half of a centaur

I guess he is the Giants Albert Pujols, which is kind of like saying he is the best actor on Baywatch

But Pujols is and will always be better than KFP. That doesn’t mean that KPF won’t be good and that I don’t want to rub his belly. ‘Cause I do. Not in a creepy way. You know, just soft-like. Just sort of a nice caress with a little pat at the end. And maybe a little fanny pat too… We’ll see were it goes from there… No promises. No commitment. Just a little belly rub…

Sandoval:Pujols::Giants Offense:Cardinals Offense

is Jordan Zimermann the Nationals Tim Lincecum?

Albert Pujols is the best 1B in the history of the National League. Pablo Sandoval is a very good 3B.

What’s the question?

Is everyone Pedro Feliz?

Is Pedro Feliz Sancho?

I want to go back to the PANDAMANIA thread to discuss pablo’s awesomeness.

Pujols is one of those players you don’t compare another to, unless they are in the 4th or 5th year, and look like a HOF to be.

General sabrmetric axioms that I recall and that are applicable and that may be completely obvious to others (or not) are:

• “A player is more valuable the further up the defensive they play, assuming they can field competently.” So, obviously, KFP at C > KFP at 3B > KFP at 1B.

• But also, “Players tend to drift down the spectrum as they age, specially if they’re fat.” So, Pablo’s days at anything but 1B yeah seem numbered. Prolly smart for the G-men to put him behind the plate some while he can still squat.

• Just about the most important things in talking about a minor leaguer or new-to-the-majors type is their age. Maybe this is obvious, but that’s why everyone things MadBum and AnVil are so great – cuz they’re teenagers, holding their own with d00ds years older than them.

So, I’ll admit that I’ve had similar Pablo/Pujols comp thoughts – mostly because PABLO IS 22. In contrast, Damon Minor, Cody Ransom, and Calvin Murray were 28 before they got more than 50 Pas in a single season the bigs, Armando Rios, Jason Ellison, and Eliezer Alfonzo were 27, Fred Lewis, Dan Ortmeier, Happy Pete, Ramon Martinez, Marvin Bernard, and Niekro Please were 26, and Bill Mueller and Todd Linden were 25. What’s exciting about KFP is not just that he is raking, but that he is RAKING AT AGE 22. There is room for improvement, even an expectation of it, the way there wouldn’t be if he was 27 or sumpin.

(which is also why it is good that Schierholtz, Bowker, and Iskiwaka are 25. Obviously, it’d be better if they were also 22, but, they’d pretty much have no future if they were playing as they were and were 28 or 29 or something).