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minor lines, 6/17/09


Highlights from the Giants' farm: (a) Scott Barnes had a fairly dominant start, including a season-high 9 K; (b) Charlie Culberson homered and singled; and (c) Buster Posey had three singles to reach base safely three times for the fifth straight game.  High honorable mention goes to (d,e) Brett Pill and Brian Bocock who each had a double among their three hits.  Lowlight?  Let's just say that Clay Timpner made a pitching appearance.

Star-divide

AAA: Fresno lost to Sacramento 19-3
(allowing fifteen runs in the middle three innings)

Fresno: 2B Manny Burriss: 2 for 5, SB
Fresno: LF John Bowker: 2 for 4, 2B
Fresno: CF Ben Copeland: 2 for 4
Sacramento: 2B Eric Patterson: 5 for 6, 2 HR
Sacramento: LF Aaron Cunningham: 3 for 5, 2 HR, BB
Sacramento: 1B Tommy Everidge: 4 for 5, HR, 2 2B

Fresno: LHP Steve Hammond: 4.0+ IP, 12 H, 12 R, 12 ER, 3 BB, 2 K--5 HR, 1 WP
Fresno: RHP Ronnie Ray: 1.2 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--2 HR
Fresno: RHP Osiris Matos: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 K--1 HR
Fresno: LHP Geno Espinelli: 1.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 K
Fresno: LHP Clay Timpner: 1.0 IP, 1 BB
Sacramento: LHP Dana Eveland: 6.0 IP, 9 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 7 K

Bowker led the Grizzlies' offense with two hits, including his 15th double which was the Grizzlies' only XBH in the game.  Burriss and Copeland also had two hits.  For the A's' affiliate, both Patterson and Cunningham had 2 HRs.  Everidge is having a strong series against the Grizzlies.  After reaching base three times in both previous games, he had three XBH, including his 1st PCL HR after 8 HRs in the Texas League earlier this season.

Hammond allowed just one run through the first three innings but then allowed 4 ER in the 4th inning and failed to retire any of the eight batters he faced in the 5th inning.  He threw 97 pitches (58 strikes).  He added over a full run to his ERA, which rose from 5.06 to 6.35.  He allowed 5 HRs after having allowed 6 HRs in his previous dozen starts.  Ray allowed just one of two inherited runners to score but then allowed 4 ER in the 6th inning, raising his ERA to 4.36.  Matos also allowed an earned run in the 7th inning.  After Espineli allowed 2 ER in the 8th inning, Timpner made his pro pitching debut with a scoreless 9th inning.  The A's' Eveland improved his W-L record to 5-0 through nine starts with a 3.74 ERA.

AA: Connecticut defeated Trenton 7-4
(after the score was 6-4 in the middle of the 3rd inning)

Connecticut: 2B Brock Bond: 2 for 4, BB, CS, E
Connecticut: 1B Brett Pill: 3 for 5, 2B
Connecticut: LF-RF Mike Mooney: 1 for 4, HR, SB

Connecticut: RHP Henry Sosa: 5.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
Connecticut: LHP Joe Paterson: 1.0 IP, 1 K

Pill had his second straight three-hit game, with one of the hits being his team-leading 20th double.  He raised his AVG above .300.  Bond was the other Defender with two hits.  Mooney connected for his 4th HR.

Sosa allowed more than 2 ER for the just time in his dozen starts but still improved his W-L record to 6-0.  The sample size is small, but he does have a 0.79 ERA in six starts at home but a 4.82 ERA in six road starts.  With just 2 K in each of his last two starts, his K/IP ratio is now just 0.61.  Paterson pitched a perfect 9th inning for his 7th save.

A+: San Jose defeated Visalia 6-1

San Jose: SS Brian Bocock: 3 for 5, 2B, SO, SB
San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 1 for 4, HR, GiDP
San Jose: C Buster Posey: 3 for 4
San Jose: RF Roger Kieschnick: 3 for 4

San Jose: LHP Scott Barnes: 5.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 9 K--1 HR, 1 HB
San Jose: LHP Dan Runzler: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 K

With three hits each, Bocock, Posey and Kieschnick accounted for nearly three quarters of the Giants' thirteen hits.  For Posey, it was his fifth straight game reaching base three times, and he is now hitting .469/.603/.714 in 49 AB in June.  Kieschnick had his second three-hit game in the three-game series.  Bocock raised his AVG to .219 with his three hits.  Neal had his streak of four straight multi-hit games snapped, but he did connected for his organization-leading 13th HR.

Since Memorial Day, Barnes has had four very good starts, combining for 12 H, 8 BB, 7 ER, and 30 K in 22.2 IP.  With 9 K and 2 H today, he now has more strikeouts than hits this year as he has limited his opponents to a .225 AVG.  Runzler allowed his first Cal League hit, which did raise his BAA this year to .087.

A-: Augusta defeated Charleston 7-2
(after scoring five runs in the 3rd inning)

Augusta: 2B Charlie Culberson: 2 for 5, HR, SO
Augusta: CF Dom Duggan: 1 for 5, HR, 2 SO
Augusta: RF Josh Mazzola: 1 for 4, HR, BB, SO
Augusta: DH Andy D'Allesio: 2 for 4, BB, SO

Augusta: LHP Eric Surkamp: 5.2 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 5 K
Charleston: RHP Andrew Brackman: 3.0 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 3 BB, 5 K--2 HR

The first three hitters in the GreenJackets' line each homered, Mazzola for his 5th HR, Culberson for his 2nd HR, and Duggan for his 1st HR.  Batting cleanup, D'Alessio didn't homer, but he did reach base three times.  However, his OBP this year remains below .310.

In his four starts since Memorial Day, Surkamp has been improving his statistical profile.  He has 21 H, 6 BB, 7 ER, and 26 K in 23.0 IP over those four starts.  Brackman, the Yankees' first round pick two years ago, had his worst line among his last ten starts, at least in terms of it being his shortest start with 3.0 IP and the most earned runs with 6 ER.  On a more positive note, he did have just 3 BB after issuing 19 BB in his previous three starts.

DSL: Giants lost to Blue Jays 5-1

Dominican: 2B Cesar Osuna: 3 for 4
Dominican: RHP Armando Paniagua: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K

Osuna (19.4 y.o.) had three of the Gigantes' four hits, raising his AVG to .296.  Paniagua (19.5 y.o.) made his third start of the season and his first start in nearly two weeks after pitching just 1.1 scoreless IP in his previous start.

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timpner = 0.00 ERA
GIVE ME THE MLE OF THAT

by i wish we were good on Jun 17, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

6.45 FIP.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jun 18, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joykill....

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Jun 18, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brett Pillapalooza

Before anointing Jesus Guzman the 1b for the Giants let’s also add Brett Pill to the mix. Pill, a great defensive 1b, is doing very well in the EL and at Dodd. Pill, a doubles machine, is finally turning some of those doubles into HRs while playing in the tough EL.

 Pill is a 24yr old 6’4’ 215lbs kid who is a couple of months younger than Guzman.

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh, Pill looks like Ishikawa without the plate discipline and with less power.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 18, 2009 3:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed- Pill is the most marginal of prospects, if you can call him a prospect at all.

by koel on Jun 18, 2009 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude hits doubles.

by xanthan on Jun 18, 2009 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pill sure doesn’t make the errors that the guys up there now make. Game-losing ones, in the case of good old Pablo.

by flyonthewall on Jun 18, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Questions?

What exactly makes you a “Prospect” – how much money they paid for you? So if you’re not a prospect then you’re basically just there to play in the minor leagues for the great pay?

by flyonthewall on Jun 18, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, a prospect is somebody who plays well enough in the minors, to make you think he can play in the majors. You can make yourself a prospect if you perform.

Brett Pill has been pretty bad until this year. Even though his current line in AA is nice, especially for the Eastern League, he’s going to have to do better than have a good two months before he can be considered a prospect.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 18, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thought he had a pretty good year in Augusta – leader in doubles and RBI’s, with a decent amount of HR’s. Quite honestly, I don’t think the Giants would know a Prospect if they saw one. .

by flyonthewall on Jun 18, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.269/.321/.416 isn’t good for a 22 year old corner infielder in low A-ball.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 18, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not particularly good at any level.

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by jcb9 on Jun 18, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for the majors, which we would love to have that batting line on our team!

by xanthan on Jun 18, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No player should ever “aspire” to be a first baseman because when it comes down to it, teams will stick the out-of-shape unathletic guy who hits bombs but can’t play anywhere else over there. Gone are the days of J. T. Snow. Wasn’t he pretty much the last good defensive first baseman the Giants had? It would be interesting to see how important a good defensive first baseman is to the pitcher and infielders. I already know the answer to that one.

by flyonthewall on Jun 18, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Albert Pujols is an amazing defensive first baseman. Probably better than JT ever was. Also, he can hit.

by xanthan on Jun 18, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s great but he doesn’t play for the Giants.

by flyonthewall on Jun 18, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s important, but it’s the least important position on the field for defense.

For 1B last year, the range of worst to best fielder was about -14 runs (Jacobs) to +11 runs (Teixeira). For hitters, it was -11 (Barton) to +69 (Pujols). The difference of the best and worst fielder was only worth about 25 runs, but the difference of the best and worst hitter was about 80 runs. You can contribute so much more with the bat than you can with the glove.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jun 18, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That last line was first base specific, right?

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 18, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so, but it’s also true to some extent for any position. Defense is very important (especially if you consider the position you play as part of your defensive value), and good defense might be underrated, but hitting is still the most important part of baseball.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 18, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jun 18, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitching

That’s my smart-ass answer… I know we’re talking about fielding specifically.
Really, I think that like almost everything else in the universe, wisdom lies in understanding the dynamic balance of opposites. In this case offense and defense – as indicated, I think pitching is the most significant factor on the defensive side of the ball. Is this why glove work counts for fewer runs than batting? Because it’s the smaller portion of the total defensive effort (analogous to baserunning for offense)?
I figure first base and left field are the two positions whose balance point favors offense the most.
Not ground breaking insight, I know, and I make no claims of being able to calculate the actual point where terrible defense outweighs good hitting…

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 18, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say…

If the game is half run-preventing and half run-scoring, and scoring runs is pretty much all batting, while preventing runs is mainly pitching, plus some fielding, then we agree that hitting is the most important part of baseball, followed by pitching, then fielding. Baserunning is a distant 4th.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 19, 2009 3:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m more thinking/processing out loud… until recently, I would have said pitching hitting and fielding were all equally important. As a player I believed it important to work at all three, plus be a smart baserunner (never was very fast)…
It’s new to me as a concept to think about fielding as simply the less important part of the defensive half-inning, and it’s interesting to me to consider that the yin/yang paradigm is a useful way of thinking about baseball.
I still think fielding is undervalued by and large (in part because of the effect bad fielding has on the pitcher), baserunning has a greater psychological effect than the numbers would justify and I’m going to have to consider if hitting is more important than pitching, but I’m learning as I go.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 19, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For real

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jun 18, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man it would be nice if we could find an out of shape unathletic guy who hits bombs to stick at first.

LOL you act as if JT Snow played in the dead ball era. And since he left we’ve had a few pretty athletic guys attempt to play the position (certainly nobody could accuse Dan Ortmeier of being unathletic, Lance Niekro either actually) and TI has a very good glove. The problem isn’t that we’ve been sticking fat bombers over their at expense of 1B defense, it’s that we haven’t been able to find anybody to play 1B who can provide an acceptable level of performance at any facet of the position.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jun 18, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh. “their” = “there” (stupid out of shape, unathletic poster who types bombs)

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jun 18, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s two guys that fit that description: Sandoval and Villalona.

by flyonthewall on Jun 18, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sandoval is by no means unathletic, nor is he particularly a notable slugger though I think clearly his power is developing.

I haven’t seen enough of Villalona to be able to say reliably whether he’s fat, out of shape, or unathletic, but one thing I can definitely say about him is that he’s never played 1B for the Giants and probably won’t for some time now. Or, at least, he’s no played no more 1B for the Giants than Pill has.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jun 18, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can you please clarify that “no played no more” ? Not sure what you mean there.

by flyonthewall on Jun 18, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That he’s never played for the Giants, and therefore isn’t more of a Giants 1B than Pill is.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 19, 2009 3:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the assist. For an ex-English teacher, I can sure type some slop up there. It’s mortifying some time. I know, preview is my friend, but apparently it’s the kind of friend I just don’t like hanging out with that much.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jun 19, 2009 5:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SAN JOSE GIANTS ARE GIANTS TOO DAMN IT

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Jun 19, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there’s more than just performance, though. Scott McClain performed. Age relative to level and whatever the scouts say about tools and skills and makeup as well as whether the team believes in the guy by giving him a big bonus and/or drafting him high and promoting him. Also, position makes a difference. If Pill was a catcher, he’d probably be a prospect. As a 1b, not so much. Of course, that all makes Wendell Fairley and Jacks Williams prospects, but probably not Brett Pill, though being drafted in the 7th round is nothing to sneeze at.

Of course, there are different types of prospects in terms of whether they’d reach their potential in the majors. Some guys just have more to overcome than others.

But in essence, I think a prospect is someone who has a shot at making it and contributing (in a non-September call up way) to a big league team some day. Before this year, I don’t think Pill was in that discussion. His performance of late has made his name come up as a maybe he could get a little time up there, but probably not more than a cup of coffee. If he keeps his performance up, however, he would probably change.

I would say Pill is not a career minor leaguer or organizational guy at this point, but he could reach that status if he stalls out at and starts repeating levels.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 18, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally, a definition of what makes a prospect that actually makes sense. That was good – thanks.

by flyonthewall on Jun 18, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This should be rxmeister’s favorite prospect.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 18, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/sees what you did there

by Natto on Jun 18, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Posey is like, “I’VE STOPPED TOYING WITH THEM NOW AND I’M KICKING SOME ASS.”

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 18, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he should be doing well

Beckham in MLB, Wallace in AAA. Smoak/Alonso in AA why in the world is this kid in A ball?

by wilriv21 on Jun 18, 2009 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, Beckham isn’t yet setting the ML on fire, and Wallace was hitting .247 at some point when I directed his game yesterday. So I’m not hoping the Giants send Buster anywhere but Norwich next.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 18, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of degree do you need to direct a game?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jun 18, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Need?

Well, I have a BA in Mass Comm, but really these days experience trumps degrees in broadcasting/cablecasting/whatever.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 18, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you get to do games a lot Lyle? I tried directing a baseball game once and for some reason I found it a lot harder than football or basketball.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jun 18, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roger

I generally do about 30 games a year. Whenever it’s the year that Fresno and Sacramento come through, I take that week off from work to be sure I can do those ballgames (this year – yay!). And I’ll take a random week off to do some more games (I work early mornings, so can’t do mid-week night games). Then several of the weekend games, giving the other director some days off.

We don’t have a complicated setup: 4 cameras, 1 replay machine. I actually find it pretty easy (and, like most directors, devoutly wish for more cameras to capture more angles). Combining my job with my passion, and getting paid something for it, is pretty ideal.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 18, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As we’ve gone over about 10,000 times, Posey is due to go to Fresno after he reaches 300 at bats in San Jose.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 18, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I understand that we’ve all read the speculation that the Giants will promote Buster to Fresno mid-year. I’m simply saying that I think that’s the wrong move for him. He needs to be exposed to AA pitching, East Coast weather (less of a concern now, but at least some humidity), etc, etc. And, more important than that, I fear the move to Fresno indicates that the FO thinks Buster can start in SF next year – which I see as rushing him.

If the master plan is to have Posey in AAA for the rest of this year, and at least most of next year (unless he hits .400 there after a couple of months), then I’m basically okay with that.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 18, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s too early to tell whether Buster is being rushed or not, but I just don’t understand the organization’s eagerness to have players slip a level. Why not permit them to develop their games one step at a time? Especially since the level-skipping hasn’t worked out for a single player they’ve tried it with, except maybe Matt Downs.

by Evan on Jun 18, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 18, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Linececum skipped A+ (basically) and AA, but he probably is a special case, though maybe Posey is a freak, too.

Bonds stands alone.

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Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 18, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking about position players — pitchers are a different story. But there too, I would err on the side of one-step-at-a-time when in doubt.

I’m pretty sure Posey can hold his own at AAA, but it’s still a weird approach. My fast track would be something like half a season at A, half a season at AA, and then start him out at AAA until he proves he’s ready or the early June arb-eligible deadline passes, whichever comes last.

by Evan on Jun 18, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well that just makes too much sense

by druncan on Jun 18, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get

skipping a minor league level, particularly A- or Rookie for college kids. I don’t think skipping AA is a good idea for anyone except Lincecum. And the Ginats already filled their quota of Lincecums. One per century.

I am starting to wonder whether there’s much point to playing in Fresno as I’m not sure anyone that’s been sent there for “seasoning” seems to have improved much. I suppose Fred is the main poster child for Fresno seasoning at the moment. Yorvit spent a year there, for whatever that’s worth.

Is it possible Fresno-izing (with trips to Salt Lake, Colorado Springs, and Reno) is too much like batting practice?

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There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Jun 18, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I didn’t mean to endorse it – although I do think Posey’s a player who can handle the jump – I just get a little frustrated that the plans for promoting Posey are well-documented around here and yet people constantly ask about it. It’s like the new Where’s Fairley??

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 18, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Do you really think Buster needs to be exposed to “East Coast weather (less of a concern now, but at least some humidity)”? Dude was born and raised in GA and played catcher all last year in Tallahassee. I live in Tallahassee – trust me there’s no park in the EL that has worse humidity than FSU stadium (affectionately known as “The Dick”).

That being said, I also want Posey in Conn. now! Not because I think that he couldn’t handle skipping AA (remember how well he did in ST). I want him there because we have so many of our future ML pitchers there – not in Fresno. I want Buster to be developing a relationship with MadBum, Sosa, T2, Otero, etc., so that he gets to know their strengths & weaknesses, and so he can earn their trust in the way he calls a game. What more does he have to prove in SJ – he owns the league. The only reason that I can see why the Braintrust don’t want him in Conn. is that they’re worried he’d lose confidence hitting in a notoriously difficult home park.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 18, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is precisely why I want Posey at Dodd

This is what the minors are about – development. Getting your kids coaching, experience and see how they respond in situations.

Hell why dont we just send our top pitchers to Sally League and Eastern League and our top hitters to Cal League and PCL? Then they will all be confident.

by wilriv21 on Jun 18, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 19, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Holm was DFA’d to make room at Fresno for Buster?

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by rxmeister on Jun 18, 2009 4:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That assumes a level of foresight that I frankly don’t believe the Ginats Braszs possess.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 18, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thomas Neal is ready to be a big league Giant!

by Natto on Jun 18, 2009 12:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GIDP!!!

Bonds stands alone.

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Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 18, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’d better stop hitting homers, otherwise he’ll just get pinch hit for all the time.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jun 18, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

especially against righties

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Jun 18, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sosa is worrying me.

Also, I bet Ray Durham would have had a better start than Hammond. TERRIBLE TRADE, SABES

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by groug on Jun 18, 2009 1:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, Ray Durham could really help this team right now.

by Evan on Jun 18, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

y

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jun 18, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Durham probably wouldn’t be on the team even if we hadn’t traded him.

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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 18, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Hadn’t really thought about it, but I kinda agree. Defense aside, Ray Ray hitting 8th would be a lot tastier than what we’ve been running out there so far this year.

Justin Miller: More ink'd than an octopus on PCP.

by stealth snail on Jun 18, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heck, he could probably hit in the top three spots.

by Natto on Jun 18, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many

Guyst will get promoted from that San Jose team in the second half? If nothing else, hopefully Buster and Thomas Neal go. Their pitching staff is also very underrated, IMHO.

Oh, you thought we were committing to a youth movement? What Sabean actually said was it's a "Ute" movement.

by NateisGreat on Jun 18, 2009 6:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Continuing Story of Things I Don't Understand

Both Burriss and Frandsen in Fresno — neither plays SS.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jun 18, 2009 6:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

because Jake Wald is so awesome?

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 18, 2009 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m trying to imagine what part of “Burriss doesn’t have the offensive potential to play 2B” it is that Brian Sabean doesn’t understand.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 18, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He might not have the bat to play SS either.

by xanthan on Jun 18, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not convinced he has the bat to be a pitcher.

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by groug on Jun 18, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’ll have to pitch in the AL.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 18, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HE'S FAST

that’s all Sabean understands.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jun 18, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

Anybody know why Steve Edlefsen is the closer in San Jose instead of Dan Runzler?

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 18, 2009 7:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

b/c Runzler is in San Jose
/Fresno manger: “warm up the car we need our closer”
/Burriss drives to pick up runzler

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jun 18, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He just got there. I’m sure they want to see what he can do at that level before anointing him the closer

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 18, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot to mention Tyler Graham had an RBI hit and scored a run. He rules.

I like cats.

by Norm Median on Jun 18, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tyler Graham from Montana… he’s gonna’ be a good one!

Oh, you thought we were committing to a youth movement? What Sabean actually said was it's a "Ute" movement.

by NateisGreat on Jun 18, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does?

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 19, 2009 3:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tyler Graham from Montana. He’s gonna be a good one!

Oh, you thought we were committing to a youth movement? What Sabean actually said was it's a "Ute" movement.

by NateisGreat on Jun 18, 2009 5:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tyler Graham from Montana. He’s gonna be a good one!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Jun 18, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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