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Post-Game Recap: Giants Avoid the Victory!

Listened to a good game.

Went into a meeting.

Came back to Giants striking out, trailing in the ninth inning.

Understood that a passed ball was involved.

Gritted my teeth in rage.

Yelled "Three runs against Matt Palmer?!?!" to my computer screen.

Sobbed.

Regurgitated a bit.

This team is killing me. I predict this frustration will last until the next time they look like a good team, at which point I'll start believing in them again. Then they'll lose five in a row, and I'll write, "This team is killing me." That will last until a stretch in which they look like a good team. Then I'll start believing in them again, but that will only last until they score six runs over a span of seven games, and I'll write, "This team is killing me."

A boxscore, for you self-loathing types.

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"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on Jun 17, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s days like this where I would almost rather root for the Nationals.

Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 17, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Strasburg + Harper

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 17, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

did they get bailout monies?

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck you, Rich Aurilia.

I like cats.

by Norm Median on Jun 17, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

The people over the offseason who wanted to re-sign him should be hunted down and culled.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 17, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted McClain.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t find his ‘09 numbers on the Hiroshima website, but I’m sure he’s doing better than Rich Aurilia.

I like cats.

by Norm Median on Jun 17, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

From this site

McClain .236/.377/.319 and 3 HR in 119 PA

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty bad. He hit .275/.423/.425 in 52 PA at Fresno, which is not great shakes but probably still better than Richie.

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It may take some time to learn the pitchers and get reaccustomed to the NPB game. It’s a fairly small sample too.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

ooh good find. Thanks.

I like cats.

by Norm Median on Jun 17, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, looking over that fanpost, most people didn’t want him to come back.

by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I was defending the move, but failed to see the implications. I thought that he’d be a back up. My bad.

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by WalrusMan on Jun 17, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

My comment
Sabean is officially falling back on his old habit Moderate-To-Low-Priced-Mediocre-Veteran-Love. Just watch him sign Crede, too.

I say this as someone who’s been an Aurilia fan since 1995. As I’ve said before, I was hoping 2008 would be his final year as a Giant. Better to leave things on a mostly positive note than to keep bringing him back until he falls to pieces and leaves us with a bad taste in his mouth.

Crede’s hitting pretty well to my chagrin, but otherwise, yeah.

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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 17, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing I talked about in that thread was pancakes.

Success all around!

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by groug on Jun 17, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I inadvertently started the pancake discussion!

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by jponry on Jun 17, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

WAFFLES.

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by WalrusMan on Jun 17, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like waffles. It’s easier to make then pancakes. I’m a lazy dude so waffles it is.

by SFGuy on Jun 18, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I advertently started it.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 18, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Failcakes with maple-flavored lose sauce” is worth preserving in the McC lexicon.

by Evan on Jun 18, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought my comment was fairly humorous. I guess no one else did.

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by WalrusMan on Jun 18, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, let’s see … hmmm … nah.

by Evan on Jun 18, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

QFT
Better to leave things on a mostly positive note than to keep bringing him back until he falls to pieces and leaves us with a bad taste in his mouth.

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d hope we keep Barr and Tidrow around though

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

err

i thought u were referring to sabes

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was wondering…

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

embarrassing

Read the first line of his quote then skimmed yours

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I probably mean a bad taste in OUR mouth. I don’t want to think about what goes in Aurilia’s mouth.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 17, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say, “Whatever it is he should stop putting it in his mouth because it’s making him suck,” but I don’t think we should go down that road.

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm…how naive we were.

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by WalrusMan on Jun 17, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn't look like I commented

Probably because xanthan linked the piece.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Jun 18, 2009 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

YOU SHUTTA

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Jun 18, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was not part of the group that wanted to re-sign him. As soon as I heard about him signing a “minor league contract”, I knew that would mean: significant number of starts and ineffective pinch hitting.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 17, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Video recap of the Giants in this series

by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

They looked that good?

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by groug on Jun 17, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Damn skippy.”

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 17, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Renteria is really really really bad

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I can’t believe they got swept at home by the Angels. It’s Reggie Sanders getting pounded on the back with ThunderStix all over again.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on Jun 17, 2009 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

embarrassing

Read the first line of his quote then skimmed yours

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's something that's been bothering me for a while

Is this the least likable Giants team in recent memory?

Players I like:

Lincecum
Cain
Sandoval
Romo

That’s it. A measly 4. Everyone else falls into “meh” (Lewis, Torres) or “oh my god go away” (Rowand, Zito, Molina, Renteria, Wilson).

Anyone else feel this way?

by Steve on Jun 17, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I like Eli Whiteside

Justin Miller: More ink'd than an octopus on PCP.

by stealth snail on Jun 17, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a Lewis guy, obviously.

Affeldt is pretty good.

Wilson is frustrating but not really as bad as he’s sometimes made out to be here.

I’m okay with Matt Downs so far.

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by jcb9 on Jun 17, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

In addition to yours, I like Ishikawa, Classy Dwight, Uribe, and Lewis. I don’t hate Zito and Rowand.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve always rooted for Ishikawa, but it’s more of an I Want To Believe kind of thing.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 17, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

i want Ishi to succeed very badly

his defense is so sweet. I’d hate to see it wasted.

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, for me too, but he also hasn’t done anything to make me not root for him to make it.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s great to see the average is up to .276. Now if only Ishi can turn some of warning track power into homers…

by SeeingStars on Jun 17, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Selective endpoint fun!

Last 30 days for Ishikawa:

.375/.483/.542

Granted, it’s in the gigantic sample size of 29 plate appearances, but he’s going the right direction.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

His SLG is almost at .400 (.388)!

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by jponry on Jun 17, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s nearly half of Bonds’ slugging percentage in 2004! And let’s not even mention 2001 because that would just depress me about the offense!

by quincy0191 on Jun 17, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Molina is a likable person, but his hitting this year has been disappointing.

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by groug on Jun 17, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember when...

He was an above average catcher too. That ship has clearly sailed and what’s left is not pretty.

by SFGiantsD on Jun 18, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought this team was immensely likable when they were winning. Now I hate them all* again! Funny how that works.

*with notable exceptions of course

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by jponry on Jun 17, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like:

Lincecum
Cain
Sandoval
Romo
Lewis
Schierholtz
Frandsen
Ishikawa
Unit

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lincecum
Cain
Sandoval
Romo
Lewis
Schierholtz
Frandsen
Ishikawa
Unit

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen isn’t on the team…..

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by WalrusMan on Jun 17, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey

that might make a good fanpost

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Jun 17, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry, I only put the giants that I like that should be on the team. I still like richie, but he shouldn’t be on the team, so I did a little switcheroo

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 18, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Winn, Torres, and Johnson as well. I would like Holm and Frandsen if they were here too.

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by WalrusMan on Jun 17, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, ad Schierholtz on the team too. I forgot he was on the team.

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by WalrusMan on Jun 17, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, how many pitches did Lincecum have going into the 8th?

He had just pitched a complete game last time out and he must have been around 100 pitches. But, mostly, the best part of the bullpen was rested. Romo would have had a nice, easy 8th. There really was no reason to send Timmy back out there in the 8th. Right? I wasn’t listening to the game at the beginning of the 8th, so I could be wrong.

Anyway. That sucked.

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by thehavenot on Jun 17, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

80ish

It was definitely the right decision to leave him in. He made good pitches, just unlucky with shitty defense.

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

just a couple examples

tailor made double play hit a SS with no range, bloop hit to bring in a run, passed ball to bring the winning run to 3rd, a double lined off the glove of our second basemen etc

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was almost like Game 6 on a much smaller scale.

by SFGiantsD on Jun 18, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only 83. I had no problem with leaving him in and most people thought he could possibly throw another complete game. Then a bunch of cheap hits and poor defense happened.

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by jponry on Jun 17, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was at the game, he was in the 80’s and had a very quick seventh. Nothing to indicate terrible things in the future.

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by timmeh on Jun 17, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

What kills me is that it’s painfully obvious what needs to be done with this team. I understand keeping Rowand, because he’s the only legitimate CFer. Almost anything else Sabean and Boulderskull do is inexplicable.

Off the top of my head:

1) Molina obviously wears down and sucks balls. His OBP is just pathetic. Yet he doesn’t get nearly enough days off
2) Burriss is just hopeless —> FINALLY FIXED
3) Renteria isn’t good and is clearly in the last years of his career, but Sabean signs him as an everyday SS and Bochy PLAYS HIM EVERY DAY
4) NO BOWKERMANIA, which is a subset of “use decrepit vets and not young players, unless that young player is Manny Burriss, because SPEED”
5) The continued presence and use of Rich Aurilia
6) Vets can suck as much as they want, but Fred Lewis has one month of slump and he’s threatened with the bench

I’m pretty sure that as a group, the McCoven is just more knowledgeable about baseball than the average fan, and that management thinks that the average fan is going to be upset and think we’re giving up if Aurilia gets dumped, Molina gets benched, etc. But if these moves make the team better, especially for the coming years, then fuck em. They’ll come back to the yard and watch on TV if the team is better or more exciting.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Glimmer of sunshine:

San Jose beat Visalia for the second day in a row to draw even at the top of their division. (Is this correct, Baron?) Neal with another HR, Posey goes 3-4.

Noonan. Nooooonan!

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 17, 2009 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

NEAL IS REAL

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by jponry on Jun 17, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

We will find out for sure when he plays at AA level

and see how he handles the friendly confines that is Dodd and the EL. Like the song sez, if you can make it there you can make it anywhere

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like sending these guys into some adversity, but I don’t want them screwing with a successful approach because it’s so hard to hit there.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he’s hitting line drives, he’ll be fine.

If he’s not hitting line drives, he’ll never succeed in San Francisco.

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by groug on Jun 17, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus it’s easier to hit in Norwich in July and August than it is in April and May.

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by Kitspool on Jun 17, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon Crawford

San Jose: 1045 OPS
Connecticut: 683 OPS

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s partially level of course – it isn’t as if SJ is a great place to hit either

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess this wouldn’t be an appropriate time to point out Jackson Williams’ 633 OPS.

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No it would not

People are clamoring for promotions for Neal and Posey who hit in the hitter friendly Cal league. AA is a big jump and then add the friendly confines of Dodd Stadium and the Eastern League and voila!

Hope the Giants send Posey to AA rather than another hitter friendly league the PCL.

Crawford’s numbers were posted to accentuate that AA is a big jump. Add Dodd makes the jump bigger. Add the EL makes it even bigger. But every hitter should stop by at least for a cup of coffee.

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, I was just busting your chops

As long as the players can keep the plate discipline together at Dodd, I’ll be happy.

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope to see him promoted fairly soon. My instinct says it will be after the break. Anyways, he’s ready. A+ pitching isn’t stumping the guy. He needs to see some more advanced arms. The summer is a good time to go back east. I’d also like to see him get to know Decker a little, too.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 17, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ishikawa is slowly proving that right

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neal and Posey are crushing their way to the break. They really shouldn’t be in SJ for the 2nd half.

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's nearly at 300 PA

hopefully they pay attention to PA instead of ABs because the way Posey is walking, he’s going to take a long time to get to 300 ABs

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh you’re silly. They won’t even think about that.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bright Spots

Lincecum 0 BB 9 K

Ishikawa 2-3 2B, HR

Not-Burriss 2-3, BB

Romo 1 IP, 0 R, 1 K

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Lincecums BABIP is getting ridiculous. It was high last year and high again this year. Is he just that unlucky or what?

by superk1ng on Jun 17, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

So far, yeah, but it’ll even out.

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually

without actually looking.

I would be that BABIP and swing-through % are anti-correlated to some extent.

OK, back in a mo, I will actually look with fangraphs + excel-fu.

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by zenbitz on Jun 17, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can safely say

that they are basically TOTALLY uncorrelated.

I looked at BABIP vs contact %, z-contact % and in desperation K/9.

What I got was random.

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by zenbitz on Jun 17, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, I only looked at 2009 qualified starters (~98 pitchers)

but hey, another theory shot down.

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by zenbitz on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say that

Jon Lester and Jason Verlander also have high BABIPs this year… so it’s not like I was TOTALLY insane.

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by zenbitz on Jun 17, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So wait

You mean that, BABIP MIGHT not be due to some magical skill?

Shocking.

by FairweatherFan on Jun 17, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t care for this game. If only Downs could have snared that liner that bounced off his glove.

by xanthan on Jun 17, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

If only Edgar Renteria wasn’t worthless.

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by groug on Jun 17, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m really glad I didn’t get to watch, I am not interested in losing my voice from yelling.

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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, they won the game after that post. I’m clean.

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 17, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe that Big Head didn’t bring in Romo or Affeldt in the 8th when there was a guy on 1st and 2nd with no outs. Fuck pitch counts! Give these batters a different look. They have seen Timmy for 3 at-bats now, either Affeldt or Romo gives the Angels hitters a different look. Lincecum pitched his ass off this game – no way he deserves a loss! What’s the use of having one of the best bullpens in baseball if you aren’t going to use it. I am sick about it!

Oh yeah….. and Renteria blows!

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 17, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

keeping them all fresh

gonna have a big day tomorrow

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

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by natteringnabob on Jun 17, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh

And if Romo or Affeldt had come in and given up the lead you would be complaining why didn’t he leave Tim out there to finish his game, after all – he only had 80 something pitches and they hadn’t touched him all night.

by FairweatherFan on Jun 17, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. He’s the reigning Cy Young winner and one of the top 5 pitchers in all of baseball. Screw new looks, I’d have him face those guys 10 times in a row if I could. He was cruising, pitch count was low, caught some bad breaks. Shit (read: crappy defense) happens.

by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 17, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Timmy pitched a great game! But major league hitters adjust pretty quickly to what ANY pitcher is trying to do to them. Lincecum finished with 9Ks but he only got one those strikeouts in the 5th, 6th, and 7th innings. He was still pitching effectively but I think it’s only normal to not miss as many bats later on in the game after the hitters have had a chance to see you a couple of times. With two men on and nobody out it’s an obvious strikeout situation and I think Romo or Affeldt would have had a better chance getting out of that jam. Look at what Romo did in the ninth. I’m sorry but Bochys bullpen and pitcher management is terrible no matter how you look at it!

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 17, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is kinda my point
Bochys bullpen and pitcher management is terrible no matter how you look at it!

If the game gets lost, you (and many others) are going to say he made the wrong decision. It’s terrible, no matter how you look at it.

Fact is, Lincecum staying in the game is about reason # 5 on the list of why the Giants lost this one.

by FairweatherFan on Jun 17, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uhhhhhhhhhhh

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 17, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Things I'd like to see done by the All-Star break

1) fire Bochy
2) DFA Richie
3) call up Bowker & Jesus (for good!)
4) give Sanchez a couple starts off
5) insert Pablo at catcher for at least one game of every series to rest Bengie
6) trade Merkin, Winn and/or Bengie for DINGERZ or prospects

realistically, though, I see maybe 2 – 4 happening, that’s about it.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jun 17, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay, we’re back to firing the manager.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jun 17, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe you should change your sig

Bruce Bochy would like you to suck up all the Aurilia at-bats and quit complaining

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jun 17, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

We never left.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jun 17, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

And don’t forget the GM. If Sabean is gonna keep signing aging, past-their-prime vets, what would you expect? They’re gonna show up on the field and in the line-up.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 17, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think 6 is happening. if we do get a bat, i think it will be for merkin + other relief prospects to the angels or nats. “other relief prospects” could include sanchez, as it seems thats what other teams view sanchez’s ultimate role to be

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep Winn

Bench Rowand for a month and give an outfield of Lewis, Winn and Nate a shot. Lewis hasn’t been doing so well but Rowand bugs me more.

by paboperfecto on Jun 18, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Games like this are among the worst features of unemployment

I was thinking, well, I’m broke and unemployed, but at least I can watch mid-week day games! Yaaaaaay! >:(

I think Grant forgot to pay the BABIP bill again. The Hunter single in the eighth was the only ball the Angels squared up. Given average luck, the Giants win 3-0. Given 90th percentile luck, Timmy throws a perfect game.

Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)

by antinous on Jun 17, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate day games when I’m working. I watch on slingbox and when the Giants’ lose I feel like killing somebody. I really should TIVO but every once in awhile it’s nice to get to bed at a normal hour. It just kills me when Timmy loses a game he should have won.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jun 17, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

just a simple question

I know Bochy loves the double switch and all, but why are we taking travis ishikawa out of the game? maybe it’s just me, but at the end of the game you want your best defenders in the game, and while Travis is not many things, he is very good with the glove.

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

probably because

he was hitting so poorly during the game

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Jun 17, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

LEFTIES CAN’T HIT LEFTIES
And then Scioscia changes relievers.

by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

What bothers me the most is that he manages lefty/righty matchups to the point of getting outmanaged. Just because aurilia pinch hits for schierholtz doesn’t mean ishi has to come out of the game, especially when Ishikawa had the only two extra base hits of the game up until that point. but aurilia makes the double switch plausible and VETERAN SAVVY!!! is on the bench, so ishikawa must be ph for.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants

Please dont get swept by Texas

Sincerely, CB30

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 17, 2009 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

please, I’m heading over the mountain to see them sunday

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Giants don’t win, Speedforthewin is going to jump!

by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

being as i’ll be in the cheap seats, yes!

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ovvvvvvvvvvveerrrr the mouuuuuntttaaaain

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 17, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s like a metaphor for rich aurilia’s career!

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

with you there brother

not sure if I can type that Rhodes guitar riff tho.

“deen nee NEE”

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Jun 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Today was the company outing at the ballpark. I now have serious grudges against two coworkers who turn out to be Angels fans. Angels fans.
One of them brought a goddamn rally monkey, but after I told one of the kids present to throw it in the garbage, she started keeping track of it, so it still exists… I really dropped the ball on that one.
Still, it was better than working, I suppose.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 17, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 17, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

FAIL

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 17, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather be at the ballpark to see a game however bad it is.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!

by WalrusMan on Jun 17, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the point. Any day at the ballpark is better than at the office.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 18, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Neither. Now go into the corner and think about what you’ve done.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 18, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is it bad we couldn’t even muster an “Optimism Week 2009!”? around these parts, it was more like “Optimism Day! Yaaayy…oh fuck. the angels.” just sayin’.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 17, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

In the Fresno game tonight Burriss is at 2b with Franny over at 3b.

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 7:15 PM PDT reply actions  

GINAS BREAZZ!!!11!!

THE FRESNO LINEUP IS STACKED WITH .300 HITTERS

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Jun 17, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

welcome to the PCL

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Frandsen throws high every time there’s a runner on 1st with less than two outs.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m flabbergasted. Play Burriss at SS for fuck’s sake! We have NO upper-level SS worth a damn!

by AndOnTheDrums... on Jun 18, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I lost a bet. Well, actually two. I owe two lunches to a co-worker for this fail.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 17, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Mendy's

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jun 18, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Make sure they don’t get just the soup.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!

by WalrusMan on Jun 18, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Usually I dread off days. But I actually am going to welcome tomorrow’s off day, if only for the sake of my blood pressure.

I was very displeased by this series.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 17, 2009 7:23 PM PDT reply actions  

OT

I thought I’d ask here. But has the fonts on this website changed?? I don’t know if it’s different or it’s my new computer that I just hooked up with a much larger monitor.

by SFGuy on Jun 17, 2009 8:08 PM PDT reply actions  

The monitor went for about 14 inches to a 20 inch screen.

by SFGuy on Jun 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably your monitor.

by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

A's doing God's Work

beating the Bums 4-0 in the 5th

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Aren’t the A’s and Dodgers BOTH evil??

by SFGuy on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

GROUGTHINK ALERT
Chatterbalks dot com: Still with jokes. Now with updates.

by groug on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not even close. The A’s are mildly evil sometimes, such as when their fans are annoying, when they beat us, or when Canseco is involved.

The Dodgers are the innermost ring of hell, evil incarnate.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

i hate the angels most of all. michael eisner and rally monkeys are the epitome of fake fans and ball clubs that don’t deserve a championship.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Jun 17, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn the A’s are trying to blow it worse that the Giants. It was 5-2 in the 7th, and Cust dropped a fly ball in right, followed by Cabrera dropping a fly at short (he was saved by the infield fly rule though). Thankfully the Dodgers just grounded into a double play, but its now 5-4 going into the 8th.

Justin Miller: More ink'd than an octopus on PCP.

by stealth snail on Jun 17, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

and only one of the dodgers’ runs is earned.

Justin Miller: More ink'd than an octopus on PCP.

by stealth snail on Jun 17, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fresno getting ripped tonight 19-3 so OF Clay Timpner toes the rubber for the Grizzlies in the 9th inning

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Timpner

Managed a scoreless inning, too.

by koel on Jun 17, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quick! Call him up for Monday’s game.

by Merope on Jun 17, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugly.

5 HRs off of Hammond

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 17, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you Oakland

A’s beat the Bums 5-4 tonight

by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions  

SUCK IT MARTIN!

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 17, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only they could’ve finished the job yesterday as well.

by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somehow I can’t root for Oakland. I was hoping a large force would suck Dodger Stadium with both teams playing right into the ground, never to be heard from again.

by SFGuy on Jun 17, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be fine with a meteor hitting the latrine.

I like cats.

by Norm Median on Jun 18, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers

too busy doing the baseball boogie to win

by SnowLeopard on Jun 18, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

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