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FUUUUUCK YOU BOCHY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I’m so emo that I do it with my guitar strings.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I hate myself
for watching this game.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Is there even a tiny chance Aurilia succeeds here?
Didn’t think so.
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That was strike 3.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
You noticed that too, huh?
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Oh my god. Rich listened to my excoriations.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
YEAH GREAT AB RICHIE WOW YOU’RE THE BEST
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I haven’t been able to post anything since Ishikawa’s homer. I don’t know what’s up with that.
Judgment Day is coming
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WOW
Thaaaat was a gift
Semi-proud adoptive father of Scott Barnes.
Richie Not Fail!
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
OMG GREAT DISSIZZION BOCH
WHAT VETERUN GAMERTOOD
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
see...
lefties do better against righties all the time, and vice versa. it’s basic strategy in baseball that everyone knows, really.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jun 17, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, IIRC, Ishi has had pretty bad L/R splits throughout his MiL career.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Also, Rich Aurilia sucks goat sack. Your point?
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
well
I think having Aurilia hit was stupid. Rowand is hitting for Ish.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
It should have been Rowand and Uribe with Aurilia banished to the clubhouse.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
agree
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Rowand vs. RHP
> Ish vs. LHP
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
That was predictable.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Now this is a somewhat sensible PH decision.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Does anyone like Bruce Bochy?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
GRM.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
We Are Blinded By Our Anti-Bochy Bias
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rich aurilia
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jun 17, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I’M SO IMPRESSED THAT AURILIA TOOK A PITCH ON A 3-2 COUNT THAT HAS BEEN A STRIKE ALL DAY AND IT ENDED UP BEING A BALL
REALLY
THAT TOTALLY JUSTIFIES THIS DECISION
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Btw, why the fveck do you seem Rowand for this AB instead of the last one?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
RICHIE HAD GOOD NUMBERS AGAINST OLIVER
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Nice PA by Richie. Schierholtz would have grounded out awkwardly on the first pitch.
NOTE THAT I DO NOT ENDORSE PINCH HITTING AURILIA. It should have been Rowand.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions
I was looking for a picture to capture my current emotions and found this instead...

Justin Miller: More ink'd than an octopus on PCP.
LOL
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
QUICK POLL
ROWAND WILL
A.K
B.SINGLE
C.WE LOST
by sadison bummedgarner on Jun 17, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions
I’m trying to think of something positive to say but Bochy just makes one dumb move after another. He really seems to be quite retarded.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 17, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions
Of course, but that’s not as bad as pinch hitting for the guy who is clobbering the ball today.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, he saw that one.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Time for the K.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
callin it
Breaking ball swung on a foot off the plate in the dirt
Justin Miller: More ink'd than an octopus on PCP.
got em coach
Justin Miller: More ink'd than an octopus on PCP.
by stealth snail on Jun 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Q. what's a good mixer for cyanide?
anyone?
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
9 Ks in his last 16 at bats.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
FUCK :(
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
Awesome. I hate this offense.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Honestly, I laughed when he struck out.
I feel bad about it.
But I also saw it coming.
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They had three games against the A's
"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden
It won’t be by the end of the week
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 17, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
i wish i was surprised
but he always strikes out on that pitch
by sadison bummedgarner on Jun 17, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions
Serious question
Has Bochy pitch-hit for one of the veterans once this year? Ever? Despite the fact that the performances of Reteria, Aurilia and Molina are in no way better than the kids?
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
I really want this fucking Extra Mile commercial guy to DIAF.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
That was so predictable
Rowand for Ishi, then slider-throwing RHP in.
At least Ishi has plate discipline.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions
Me too.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
There’s no reason not to be upset about both.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
In the best shape of his career!
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Frandsen is a better SS than Renteria
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A scarecrow with a bucket around its neck wouldn’t be much worse.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Is he dating a fat chick?
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I’ll bite. What does Artie Lange call Sergio Romo.
Proud father of Barry Zito. As long as he keeps throwing strikes, that is.
Uh … Sergio Homo. (Explanation)
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
by lyricalkiller on Jun 17, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Great
Ishikawa is really looking better. Him at 1B, Panda at 3B, Not-Burriss at 2B, now we just have to solve the SS problem. And the C problem which has no chance of getting fixed. And the Lack-of-BOWKERMANIA problem.
Then we’ll be fine.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame wilriv.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Dear Aaron Rowand
If it’s at your god damn ankles and six inches off the outside corner, you don’t swing it at you POS retard.
love, Bitter
Dear Aaron Rowand, Edgar Renteria, and Rich Aurilia
fixed
Semi-proud adoptive father of Scott Barnes.
Dear GAMERS
fixed
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Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 17, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
don't forget Molina
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
STFD guy
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
STFD NAPOLIA
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Scioscia is such a better manager than Bochy. His teams actually seem to play the game correctly.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 17, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions
I hate Fat Mike
But he managed the heck out of the top of the 8th. All or nothing and it paid off.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 17, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
Sergio Romo for closer, please.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Better to use him as a setup man and in particularly tough spots than to waste him on 3-run lead saves.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Romo last started while playing in the Sally League.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Awesome?
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
So is Whiteside going to pinch hit for Romo?
After all, Fuentes is a lefty. And lefties cant etc etc
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Downs, Uribe (?), Torres
LOOKOUT, ANGELS.
Proud father of Barry Zito. As long as he keeps throwing strikes, that is.
Oh right, Uribe’s available.
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Has Freddie been used yet? Not that Bochy would let him hit if he were available…
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
No, he’s on the bench. But, you know, lefties.
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Romo is awesome
but I’m still really fucking pissed right now
This may be 20/20 hindsight, and isn’t the reason we’re probably going to lose this game, but even at only 83 pitches, would it have killed Bochy to have someone in the bullpen ready to go in the top of the 8th in case Timmy got in trouble against a good-hitting team?
"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09
Not Timmy’s fault, mostly. Got the strike out. Got the grounders. Blame defense.
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
by lyricalkiller on Jun 17, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This would be a good time for Downs to hit his first career homer.
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LETS GET TIMMY OFF THE HOOK
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
Oh balls.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
It sounds like about 5 people are doing OOOO-RIBE.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
That is exactly what it sounds like.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Fuentes is just spotting them hitters counts because it’s easier to get them out that way.
Proud father of Barry Zito. As long as he keeps throwing strikes, that is.
I want to see a dinger here.
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Seriously.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I can.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Sometimes, this team make makes me want to die.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Goat sack.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
HASN'T WILRIV DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE ALREADY
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Maybe he’s the one who convinced Bochy to bench Lewis but keep playing Winn against lefties.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Before this year’s small sample, Winn was pretty damn good against LHP
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Before the even smaller sample size of the last month and a half, Lewis was pretty good.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Before this last few weeks’s small sample, Fred was a pretty good hitter.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I remember when this game was actually good.
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Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 17, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions
Is it me?
Or is JT sounding less and less like a robot?
PS: Fuck this shit.
Semi-proud adoptive father of Scott Barnes.
Well that fucking sucked.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I hate this offense and defense.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
LP: Edgar Renteria, (0-1)
Proud father of Barry Zito. As long as he keeps throwing strikes, that is.
Remember when the Giants were first in the wild card?
Fan of the Kung-Fu Pandaval, even at the hot corner
I’m beginning to think that Edgar Renteria: worst contract of the offseason was not hyperbole.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
his defense alone has given up a shit load of runs
maybe the metrics don’t support it yet, but by the end of the year they will
Fangraphs has his value so far at -9 hitting and -2.1 fielding. Wheee.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I was wrong about O-Cab being much better but I also seem to have overestimated E-Rent when I predicted 7 HRs on the season.
"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09
I predicted Rent would hit .276/.332/.418
I would be so happy with that right now.
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Oh, and average defense
I would be fucking ecstatic if he could do that.
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.272 / .328 / .391, 8 HRs.
And I thought that was “slightly bearish.” hahahahaha.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
This one's on you Edgar.
And to a lesser extent, you, Bengie.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
FUCK THIS GAME.
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Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 17, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
THE 8TH INNING WAS SO MISMANAGED I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MY LIFE RIGHT NOW
by sadison bummedgarner on Jun 17, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions
Your username is appropriate right now.
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Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 17, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Why can’t we ever go on a 10+ game winning streak like the Rockies and Padres can?
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I can only hope that this kind of game results in the return of BOWKERMANIA
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions
I wish we would just eat Renterias contract and get a new SS. I can’t even look at this piece of shit. He’s worse than Rowand.
Huh?
A LOT worse than Rowand. Rowand has been good.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
i mean I hate him worse than Rowand
and I hate rowand a lot
Rowand had a really good hot streak. He wasn’t very good before that and he appears to be going back to Not Good, what with 1/16 and 9 Ks in the last five games.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
not true
he was good at the very beginning of the year, sucked after that, went on a tear, and is sucking again. However, his overall performance (including last year, which I still can’t figure out why everyone was so pissed about) is about average.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
People were angry at him because of the dumb contract.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
yeah but still
be angry at Sabean, not at league average player for putting up league average numbers.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
By the way, I checked Fangraph's value for his 2008 season
And they think he was a bit below average last year – 2.4 batting, -6.5 fielding.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I'm a little sketchy on the fielding #s for a lot of reasons
(not that I think Rowand is a great fielder (/dives into fence)) but -2.4 runs over the course of a year from a CF? Pretty damn close to average, imo.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
if i remember correctly
most metrics had him well below average.
I remember some really funky things with his RZR/UZR #s
Like he was the best CF in the league on balls in the CF zone, but worst on balls out of zone.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Yeah, pretty close.
I looked them up and posted them more out of curiosity than to prove a point.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
to add
yeah he was probably a little below average last year, but he’s also been above average this year, so, overall, about average. And in any case, not even close to the biggest problem on this team (FRED LUIS!!!!!!)
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
it's still too early to say either way
sample size is so small it can fluctuate pretty quickly
what?
It’s too early to say he’s been above average this year? While he may not finish the year above average, he certainly has been above average so far.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
i mean his defense
From my understanding, defensive metrics are not reliable on a small sample size
also because I HATE bad SS defense more than anything
so many outs given away
No matter what the Giants record is
I can never get excited about this team as long as Bruce Bochy is the manager. Fail is always inevitable with Rockskull at the helm.
Fan of the Kung-Fu Pandaval, even at the hot corner
Get ready for his offseason contract extension when the Giants finish just over .500!
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
TakeAGiantsStepNGo would get the job in that case.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
NOW!!!!!!!!!!
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 17, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
As a field manager, Bochy isn’t great, but did we think Alou was? Dusty? No. Not at all.
The problem with Bochy, IMHO, is with his extreme veteran fetish.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions
/sits quietly in his Dusty Baker Wasn’t Perfect But Also Wasn’t As Bad As Y’all Make Him Out To Be corner.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I feel like I am the President of the Alou-version of that club.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I always had a soft spot for Alou, but he was passed his expiration date by the time he was our manager. I have no evidence to support this, but I always thought he did a better job when he was with Les Expos.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Baker’s vocal contempt for all statistics puts him below everyone else IMO
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I somewhat agree, but is there any evidence that Bochy is better?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny Acta is a stat guy
And he’s about to be fired.
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He’s getting less out of that squad than he should, I think. So is Bochy.
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What do you expect from this team?
These guys are pitching well, the bullpen’s been solid, and the offense is a turd, which as you might know is unpolishable.
Even with this awful series, their record is about as good as you could reasonably expect.
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Stop it with your facts and logic
You’re only going to convince the Giants that Bochy is a great manager.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
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I’M ON THE INTERNET THEREFORE I MUST BE WRONG.
I’M USING STATS. FANCY STATS. DON’T LISTEN TO ME.
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With Bochy it’s not so because he fails through sheer force of will to motivate his players, as some people seem to think the manager should do.
It’s really that he makes dumb roster moves. All vets – automatic that Renteria, Molina, etc are going to be in the game without question and without days off. Molina really needs to get more off days. And he buries the young players.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, exactly. If Bochy had a better idea when to use guys, and when not to use them, the team would have another win or two under their belts. One or two wins over a year could be a big deal.
I have no idea how, or if, Bochy relates to the players, but I have a suspicion that if I asked the Ishikawas, Lewises and Schierholzes on the squad, I wouldn’t get rave reviews.
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He was really out of touch and wouldn’t even talk to the players.
What irked me was that he was a destroyer of arms. Jim Brower could still be pitching now if not for Alou.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Every Giants manager since I can remember has been widely accused of the latter sin.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Craig for the split finger, Baker for pitch counts, Alou for crazy bullpen management, Bochy for pitch counts.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I remember. Craig also wasn’t too worried about pitch counts, but in that at least he wasn’t abnormal for his time.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Dusty isn’t exactly the brightest bulb in the dugout, but even he could outfox Bochy.
At least Dusty had a good, motivating relationship with the players.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And this is a much larger part of the job than many Internet baseball forum posters remember.
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Again, I’m not a big Dusty fan, but I did like the way he would sit slumping guys next to him in the dugout for a couple games, especially young players. He also made a point of using his roster and not burying guys on the bench for two weeks until blowouts.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions

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