Sanchez (2-7) could be bounced from rotation
Sadler time?
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Replacing Sanchez with Salder is hilarious.
by xanthan on Jun 17, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
/dusts hands off
“Well, our work here is done.”
by Grant on Jun 17, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
really, though, can he be much worse?
Anyone know how Martinez is progressing? I’d really like to see him back soon.
by tyrannoman on Jun 17, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Answer: yes.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 17, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wilriv will be pleased.
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by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Prefer Sanchez be successful
by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing we must remember with Sadler is that he has pitched reliever innings the last few seasons topping out at 77 innings last season. This season the organization returned Sadler to a starting pitcher and he has already pitched 48 innings. He currently has shoulder tendinitis. How many innings is he likely to give the Giants this season?
Yeah it may be better to consider another pitcher,
by wilriv21 on Jun 17, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last few weeks of Sanchez have made me sadler than I was before.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes
Sadler can be way worse. Sanchez can still blow away AAA hitters far better than Sadler can. He’s still striking out a hitter per inning but getting some bad luck in the hits department (.333 BABIP on 16% LD) and walking a bit more than usual (6 per 9 as against 4.5). Ultimately he’s still too dependent on his fastball which is mostly the Giants brass fault for bringing him up too soon and jerking him around.
by Change Up on Jun 17, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
6 BB/9 is bad. Ridiculously bad.
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by lmaozedong on Jun 17, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Sadler time.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Jun 17, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am now officially removing my rose-colored glasses when I view Jonathan Sanchez. Sheesh, what is this guy doing in our rotation? Waiter, I’ll have a Pucetas to go, please.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
by Lyle on Jun 17, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What about
the 25 man? If they push Sanchez to the bullpen and bring up Joe Pitcher from the Lap of Luxury, who goes down to allow this to come to pass?
Your choices on the 40 man, incidentally, are: English, Hinshaw, Joaquin, Matos, Sadler, and Sosa.
I don’t see a logical spot starter in the bullpen- Miller was a starter 5 years ago but I imagine that’s like saying Uribe is a SS. Affeldt started a few in 2006 but I can’t imagine that would seem like a good idea, even to GINAS BRATZ11!!! Merkin? I don’t recall him pitching more than a couple innings this year.
I don’t see an immediate answer unless this also involves 1) dumping Richie or 2) trading Sanchez for some new, fresh mediocrity to replace an old, stale mediocrity on the current roster.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...
by natteringnabob on Jun 17, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
my guess is that one of those guys on the 40 man gets called up to start (I’ll bet on English) and Medders gets sent to Fresno, I don’t want to see any of those current bullpen guys starting.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 17, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Medders gets sent to Fresno
Really? He’s got an option left?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...
by natteringnabob on Jun 17, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, I don’t know if he does or not
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 17, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he has options at all.
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by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather see Henry Sosa rushed up from AA than to see Billy Sadler actually get to start a major league game.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 17, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jonathan Sanchez’s development path, Part II
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 17, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sosa isn’t even doing well in AA.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 18, 2009 4:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like Sadler sucks too. That’s the point.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 18, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It shows you that Bochy has absolutely nothing to do with any decisions about Giants’ personnel. Last night he said they haven’t discussed removing Sanchez from the rotation, and the next day Sanchez is out. Why not get Madbum or Tim Alderson up here? I don’t think Rick Porcello is suffering from being in the majors at such a young age.
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by rxmeister on Jun 17, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if Rick Porcello can do it, everybody can do it!
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 17, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One example is always a representative sample of the whole.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
even though what you’re saying is correct, it also doesn’t mean that Porcello is the only exception. What makes you think that Porcello is so much more advanced and mature than Bumgarner or Alderson are? You certainly can’t get that from their minor league stats last year.
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by rxmeister on Jun 18, 2009 4:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give him the boot!
PLEASE! Get Sanchez out! The dude was serving them up for the Angels last night. It was absolutely terrible. Anyone who says the Giants are overachieving this season are ignorant. These guys can play! But we need to make some mid-season adjustments. Removing Sanchez is one of them… but Billy Sadler? Give me a break… between Bochy and Sabean, this team is run by idiots.
He hits it high.... Touchdown Bears!
by NateisGreat on Jun 17, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually it's ignorant to suggest they're not overachieving
The Giants have been the luckiest (or best clutch-hitting, whatever you want to call it) team in baseball. Everything about this team screams regression to the mean.
After all is said and done the Giants are going to finish close to .500 with the best pitching and the worst offense in the national league.
Letting short-term needs dictate player development is one of the things that landed the Giants in this mess that they are almost out of. Letting the players develop correctly, especially making sure pitchers have their off speed stuff mastered before they get to the bigs, is crucial to the next great Giants team.
by Change Up on Jun 17, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sure doesn’t seem like the Giants are very lucky.
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by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants are overachieving this year. And I believe the word is spelled ign’nt.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignorance is in the eye of the beholder
I never said anything about the young pitchers coming up. Would I love to see Bum or Alderson in the bigs? Yes, but I’m not stupid. I do believe there are better options than Sadler though. How about Kevin Pucetas, who is outpitching him on the same team? I choose to believe this team isn’t overachieving. They are a major league club, and they have talent.
Oh, you thought we were committing to a youth movement? What Sabean actually said was it's a "Ute" movement.
by NateisGreat on Jun 17, 2009 7:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
give that +reply button a shot next time
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 17, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, if you want Pucetas to start, who do you want to release from the 40 man roster?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by groug on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoever it takes
Oh, you thought we were committing to a youth movement? What Sabean actually said was it's a "Ute" movement.
by NateisGreat on Jun 17, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being a Major League Club
Doesn’t imply having talent.
by DesertFox on Jun 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I think it does…
Oh, you thought we were committing to a youth movement? What Sabean actually said was it's a "Ute" movement.
by NateisGreat on Jun 17, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really should qualify the word talent there.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignorance is not in the eye of the beholder.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is, however, in the eye of the beerholder
by jctGamer on Jun 18, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Sadler???
Oh, you thought we were committing to a youth movement? What Sabean actually said was it's a "Ute" movement.
by NateisGreat on Jun 17, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
bum shoulder, and never really did stop walking people in AAA.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 17, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New prospect!
Billysadler Bumshoulder.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Fangraphs the Giants have been the best clutch hitting team in baseball. Since it’s generally well established that clutchy performance is generally a function of luck and over time averages out it stands to reason that the Giants are actually putting up more runs than their offense can be expected to put up at least as long as they maintain a 691 OPS.
In addition Giants pitchers are putting up a much lower ERA than would be expected by their peripherals, generally attributable to the league’s leading left on base percentage.
What this all means is that we are looking at one hell of an overachieving team pitchers and hitters alike. the gmen could stay lucky all season but it’s unlikely.
I’m actually glad the Angels swept the Giants and gave us a dose of reality. We’re much closer to being a good team — the foundation for a World Series contender is there — but we’re not that good yet.
by Change Up on Jun 17, 2009 10:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If this is the offense being “lucky”, color me depressed.
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by Natto on Jun 17, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t seem to have that color in my crayola box. Would you settle for Purple Mountain Magesty?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d prefer that the Giants swept the Angels and to excel in surreality.
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Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Jun 18, 2009 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why has nobody mentioned Ramon Ortiz?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 18, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s Ramon Ortiz.
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by Natto on Jun 18, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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