Notes from San Jose, 6-17-09
I was going to wait for Steve S's post, but since this turned out really long and the minor lines aren't ready yet, it's Fanpost time.
I went to San Jose tonight to interview Cal League All Star Roger Kieschnick. I stayed for the game, got comped BBQ, and saw a pretty damned good win. I took lots of notes and here's what I saw.
Thomas Neal
Neal smoked a ball to center on a flyout his first at bat. He made a strong throw to second base on a double. Stays on the back foot when he's driving the ball. He golfed one into right and got a run in on a bad cutoff play from the Rawhide, one of two oppo hits for the Cal League's leading batter. Runs well and not just for a guy with his size.
Almost knocked out the opposing starting pitcher with a comebacker to the pitcher off McAnaney's calf in the first inning. Posey used great strike zone command and is really learning to work counts to walks. I spoke with a fellow here about purchasing Posey jerseys from the team store. They don’t have Posey jerseys, but they do have player shirts for Posey, and also Bumgarner. I'm sorry that I don't remember your username! Drop me a comment or an email and we'll work this out.
Roger Kieschnick
Kieschnick yanked a ball foul to right, then in a later at bat had a beautiful fluid swing that sent a three run homer over the wall in dead center. I watched some video on him from HWB this fall that showed him almost standing straight up at the dish. Compare that to his form now, with knees bent. It takes away a lot of stiffness in his swing that I can still see from time to time, but on that home run swing it was a thing of poetry.
Kieschnick is a fan of Mario Kart on the SNES and he likes Michael Crabtree. So I think he’s quickly becoming a favorite around here.
Made solid contact on a grounder to first and has pretty good foot speed but we knew that already. Has it been said that Gillaspie has trouble going to his left at third? I don't recall hearing anything about that but I saw some things that make me a bit concerned re: his D.
I was watching Noonan closely to see what was wrong with him. He turned away from an 88 MPH pitch that wasn't close inside. Ouch. Later he made a nice stop on a grounder and strong throw to retire the batter. He has quiet hands and closed stance in his swing. He salvaged a crappy day at the plate by drawing a four pitch walk late in the game.
Benefited from the generous strike zone tonight. Still, he worked quickly and played some excellent D, spearing comebackers and running one over to the bag himself. I saw a good curveball from him. He got corner calls on both sides of the plate consistently. He went to three ball counts only twice in seven innings.
Dan Runzler
Big Dan Runzler is fun to watch. He looks stockier than his listed weight of 215, but he's definitely tall. He throws hard too, consistent at 93 and reaching 94. His offspeed stuff in the 70s was not thrown for strikes. I counted three different speed guns on him among the scouts, and one Mariners scout took out his gun (not a euphemism I swear) just for Runzler. I asked him what he was looking for and he said just to check if the reports on Runzler's velocity were true.
He jammed Easley on a popup foul, got a called third strike at 93 against Cooper, induced a grounder that David Maroul misplayed at first and then retired the Rawhide by popping up Rumler. Now hear this: watch Runzler. He can do some things.
Edlefsen has a herky jerky motion and uses lots of effort, but he's consistent at 90-91 with a 78 changeup and a breaking ball in the low 80s, and throws strikes. He can jam right-handed hitters.
LHP Pat McAnaney, Visalia SP
The first pitch he threw was a home run to Tyler Graham. His velocity was consistent in the high 80s on the fastball and did not suffer after the comebacker off his leg. He was a little outside the zone in the third inning but keeps the ball down. He looks to be one of those momentum type pitchers; when he gets locked in, he's unhittable. He retired nine in a row at one point. He can get rattled, as he did after two errors and allowing home runs. McAnaney has been one of the best starters in the league and I was really excited about seeing him tonight. He's been pitching pretty badly over his last few starts, though, and did not help his cause with this one. He has a deceptive motion from the left-side, with a high leg kick and his wiry frame kind of flying all over the place. It hard to pick up the ball when it's working. Swingthrough stuff! zomg!
RHP Victor Capellan
Capellan is all kinds of ridiculous. He throws with a crazy amount of effort, submarine delivery RHP. He started out hitters at 89 but quickly ramped up to 92-93. He will pop the glove. His stuff was pretty nasty coming from that lower angle. He got a called third strike at the knees at 90 and I think I saw a breaking ball at 82 in there, infrequently. One of them broke down Posey, buckled his knees and made him miss badly. He was working with offspeed stuff at 84 as well.
Tom Layne has a slider blah blah.
Misc: Angel Villalona is day to day with a shin injury. He fouled a ball off the shin Saturday and it swelled up on him. He hasn't played since June 13. I saw scouts from the Mariners and the Mets there. The Mets scout was keeping tabs on the Visalia players. They honored the three All-Star bound Giants players in a pregame ceremony, complete with plaques. Aw.
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Thanks for posting this!
I’ve been hearing good things about Runzler, as well.
That Capellan fellow sounds nightmarish for a RHH
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by haverecords on Jun 17, 2009 1:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
Really enjoyed the read.
Do you know if anything is up with Villalona? He hasnt played the last 3 games i believe. Is it just a minor injury that hes resting?
by kvdp12 on Jun 17, 2009 1:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Misc: Angel Villalona is day to day with a shin injury. He fouled a ball off the shin Saturday and it swelled up on him. He hasn’t played since June 13.
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
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by haverecords on Jun 17, 2009 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Wendell Fairley.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for this
it’s great to have such a stocked MILB team right down the road. However, I am concerned at your objectivity:
got comped BBQ
Pampered MSM!
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by natteringnabob on Jun 17, 2009 5:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The potato salad at Turkey Mike’s is quite possibly the best I’ve ever had. Definitely top 5.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it
objectivity FAIL
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by natteringnabob on Jun 17, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Baron!
It’s always great to hear first-hand reports, and especially from someone so knowledgeable and observant. I have high hopes for Dan Runzler, so that was great to hear. My observation of Noonan last summer was that he was just very smooth, both in the field and at bat. Your description seemed similar. Have you talked to him? I really wonder what’s wrong with him.
And yes, I remember hearing something about Conor not being good defensively going to one side or the other, but couldn’t remember which side.
How’s the job/school situation?
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by Lyle on Jun 17, 2009 7:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Noonan’s on my interview slate for the second half, if he stays in SJ. Hope he does. He changed his number too. Maybe he got the heebeejeebees on his slump and mixed it up a bit.
Job situation is still pretty blah as I don’t have a day job but it could be worse. I still get paid for the MiLB.com gig and I have time and energy to do sportswriting stuff more. School is fine, but I’m chewing away all my nails waiting on a loan approval. It’s fairly stressful.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hang in there. You have a lot of admirers here.
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by Lyle on Jun 17, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
K-Man!
quickly becoming my favorite of the non-spoken-of prospects.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 17, 2009 7:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Baron !
Lots of great information. Wish I had the chance to get down to SJ and see these guys play. It’s easy to get excited about the 2010, 2011 Giants with talent like Posey, Neal, Kieschnick and Noonan in the system.
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Tom Layne has a slider blah blah.
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by nvsfg on Jun 17, 2009 7:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was all I remember from Layne. He was pretty pedestrian otherwise. That was when I was chatting with the scout re: Runzler. There was a weird sketch/diagram of the strike zone I drew next to Layne’s name that came out looking deformed. An artist I am not.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is the Mariner scout checking out Runzler with regard to a Beltre deal? Also, this game is dated 6/17/09. Is it taking place…IN THE FUTURE?
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 17, 2009 8:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes I am from the future. My spaceship landed in Kelly Park so I decided to take in a game.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A date with Garrett Broshuis?
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by say hey nation on Jun 17, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Win a Date with Garrett Broshuis
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he writes for BA right?
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by say hey nation on Jun 17, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he does. I’m doing an interview with him after the break for SF Dugout.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he cute? Is he married?
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by Lyle on Jun 17, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes to both
and the giants have really effed him up
if he doesnt get the up to fresno at the break, he needs to request his release…for he can go nowhere in the org
by bacci40 on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mariners
are scouting Runzler for a reason. When I went through the Pacific Northwest on business ten days ago, I heard from a friend in sports journalism (that’s all I’ll say at this point) that the Mariners and Giants have been talking for about three weeks now about trade matchups. You can also expect to see Oriole and other scouts over the next ten days, more likely at Fresno, as the Giants work the phones. The impression I took away from the trip up north was that the Mariners wanted several players for Beltre, including at least a AA/AAA pitcher and 2 solid prospects at A/AA.
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by Buck Henry on Jun 17, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sadler, EME, & throw-in?
GIT R DUN
(Actually, I wouldn’t really be thrilled about a Beltre trade)
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 17, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friend said
the Mariners were interested in checking out Kieshnick and Gillaspie, in addition to Runzler and one of the AA pitchers. He didn’t say which one, but they’re probably looking at both Pucetas and checking in on Sosa.
It’s a lot for any discussion on Beltre, but we also know that the Giants are interested in Aubrey Huff, so who knows how far into the minors Sabean would go to get one or even two bats to help the team get the wild card slot.
Matt Cain's drinking buddy
by Buck Henry on Jun 17, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For half a season of a sub .700 OPS 3B it better not involve any serious prospect, which I consider Sosa, Kieshnick and Gillaspie to be. They’d be better of just leaving Pablo there and playing Ishi or Bowker at first.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 17, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you, but unfortunately
after their recent winning streak the Giants now think they have a serious shot at the wild card slot, and with their 1-3 starters in a short series, they probably think they can get at least one level beyond, even with this offense. And that makes for unpalatable trades in midseason.
Should they trade guys like Sosa, Pucetas, Crawford, Kieshnick, or Gillaspie for rentals? Hell no. But if you think you can get into the wild card and beyond by adding a Beltre or Huff (or in some far-fetched scenario both of them), and still have the Aldersons, Bumgarners, Poseys, and Villalonas in your system, then a GM trying to hold onto his job might lunge for something objectionable to many of us. All I know is that the usual suspects are scouting the Giant farm teams right now for a reason.
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by Buck Henry on Jun 17, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t implying you were advocating these trades, just my opinion on them. Unfortunately, I think you’re right on the money when it comes to winning and Sabean trying to keep his job. This has worried me about Sabean and Bochy from the beginning of the year. Could lead to stupid trades or abusing Cain and Lincecum in an effort to win.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jun 17, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a GM trying to hold onto his job might lunge for something objectionable to many of us.
Sabean does not “lunge”. He runs headlong into the abyss.
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by nvsfg on Jun 17, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously...
I think this is why it would be very beneficial to DFA Richie, call up Bowker, and see what he can do at 1B. If he’s a viable 1B option, then don’t bother renting Beltre, when Pablo will provide nearly the same production at 3B (offensively, at least).
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 17, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree again;
I’d like to see Bowker’s bat one more time up here, with Travis as his backup and defensive replacement. They could use Pablo at 3B and still have Uribe as the backup for the other infield spots. That’s the common-sense, low-cost solution.
Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s the route Sabean will go, for the reasons stated above. I hope I am wrong, but . . .
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by Buck Henry on Jun 17, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got a radar gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 17, 2009 9:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Kieschnick.
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by jponry on Jun 17, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
but do you “like him” like him?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 17, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like him like him if his OBP didn’t suck.
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by jponry on Jun 17, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if yes check this box
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need a maybe box, but that’s a rookie mistake. You never offer a maybe box.
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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When a woman is constantly leading you on....
…that is called a maybe box.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 17, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Tyler Graham. That guy is so fun to watch. He has smart balls.
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by Norm Median on Jun 17, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When The Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Krazee
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 17, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His balls will create a FUSION MACHINE!
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by say hey nation on Jun 17, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread is getting dirty...
…between people talking about boxes and balls.
And that shortstop on San Jose called Brian hasn’t even been mentioned yet.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 18, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was me asking about SJ jerseys. I wouldn’t be interested in a shirt but I can still get you that tea from Tea Infusion :)
by jhiat00 on Jun 17, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to Fresno in a few weeks and will scope out the scene there. What are you looking for at the Fresno team store?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 17, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn I hope they don’t trade any of these San Jose guys, I’m getting attached to them. Glad to see Matt Downs make his mlb debut, he’s gonna surprise some folks.
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by henwo on Jun 17, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, with how quickly he gets sent back down...
MEGABURN
Disclaimer: I have no issues with Matt Downs and wish him the best of luck. Lord knows we need someone to play 2B competently.
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by marcello on Jun 17, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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