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Considering what the Pirates were willing to accept in the McClouth trade, this could be a really good fit for us.

Long term, we could sign him to a reasonable extension, or offer him arbitration and likely get at least a sandwich pick.

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I’d be ok with this.

Quick and dirty bb-ref stat neutralization to AT&T Park and his line goes up to: .269/.372/.489, if that makes any sense.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 15, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh, I don’t know why I added on an “if that makes any sense” to the end.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 15, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take it!

he’s about average defensively, if anyone cares.

by superk1ng on Jun 15, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If by about average, you mean below average!

by xanthan on Jun 15, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that according to fangraphs? BPro has him at about average.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s like a career -5 runs below average at 1B per 150 games.

by xanthan on Jun 15, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enter J.T. SNow

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jun 15, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

J.T. Snow’s School for Kids Who Can’t Field Good!

by xanthan on Jun 15, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Well, uh, make sure you, uh, have your glove ready when, uh, the ball is coming up the, uh, line.”

/smacks bubblegum

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jun 15, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, you nailed the JT ‘uhs’ perfectly.

by xanthan on Jun 15, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and who want to field good too!

by Hobbes2d on Jun 15, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t want to sound like a stat snob, but really, don’t use FRAA/FRAR. We don’t know exactly how it’s calculated, and what we do know is terrible (like, putouts + assists / innings, with very slight adjustments).

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 16, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus there’s the whole OMGSECONDHALFBBQ thing he does every year.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, if he’s cheap. But I’ve got the feeling I’ll hate any trade for him. It’s still pretty amazing that the Giants can’t produce a +2 win first basemen.

by xanthan on Jun 15, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wrong Laroche

The article mentions Andy not Adam

by krazybalr on Jun 15, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

“first baseman Andy LaRoche”

Adam is the LaRoche at first, I think.

by FPTV on Jun 15, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The article actually refers to “first baseman Andy LaRoche” so I’m not really sure who they’re talking about here…

by FPTV on Jun 15, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Straight-up for Sanchez?

by lincecumania on Jun 15, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

banned

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe for Andy LaRoche.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 15, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with getting a first baseman

If Pablo’s elbow flares up again, we’re screwed.

We should be looking for a third baseman.

Flaxseed oil dependent

by 3Com Park on Jun 15, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You mean Adam.

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Jun 15, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take me some Freddy Sanchez!

If it’s a Pittsburgh firesale lets get someone who fills our most glaring need. Sanchez would be perfect and he is owed 6.1M in ’09 with an 8M option for ’10. That seems awfully rich for Pittsburgh.

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 15, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A deal for both of them could help fill a lot of our offensive holes. I wonder how much the Pirates would want though.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 15, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’d make us a really weird team. If Renteria hit a little better, and Sandoval hit a little worse, you’d have the ultimate steady, boring, unspectacular team.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freddy Sanchez has an OPS of .845 and has made 1 error this year! I’d say short of a Chase Utley or Ian Kinsler there isn’t a better young second baseman out there. Nothing unspectacular about that.

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 15, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was more looking at his entire body of work, but who knows, maybe he’s having a huge year.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn’t he win a batting crown a couple of seasons ago?

by wilriv21 on Jun 15, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Freddy Sanchez is a stud – just doesn’t get alot of pub because he plays in Pittsburgh.

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 15, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also doesn’t get much ‘pub’ because he terrible in 2008.

by xanthan on Jun 15, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

“nah, biotch. he terrible”

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2008 was pretty bad, but still not “Burris” bad! And his 05 was good, 06 and 07 were real good, and he is having a great year again this year. Even in his “bad” year last year he would still solid defensively.

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 15, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez is a good player, but he’s not really the kind of player we should be targeting, unless we’re getting him with a LaRoche.

by Natto on Jun 15, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With second base being our biggest weakness don’t you think adding a player of Sanchez caliber SHOULD be the type of player we are targeting? It seems like he would be huge upgrade both offensively and defensively and we wouldn’t be blocking anyone in our system short or long term.

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 15, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Pirates got a lot more for Nate McLouth than you seem to think

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 15, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If I were Frank Wren, I would have made the deal as well.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t have, but that is neither here nor there. The point is; that McLouth trade is not indicative that the Pirates are going to let themselves be ripped off in trades.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 15, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Based on BA’s Top 10 Braves Prospects for 2009:

  1. Gorky’s Hernandez
  2. John Locke
    and Charlie Morton is a projected 5th starter.

by lincecumania on Jun 15, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops, I meant Hernandez was the 4th rated prospect, and Locke was 7th.

by lincecumania on Jun 15, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As was noted ad nausem, he was probably talking about Adam.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 15, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No La-Roaches

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 16, 2009 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see it.

by Natto on Jun 16, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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