Visting SF 9/24-9/28
by Graham MacAree on Jun 14, 2009 10:25 AM PDT
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PrintHi everyone. For those of you who don't know me, I'm one of the Mariner bloggers over at Lookout Landing. I'm making a trip down to San Francisco to watch the Giants play the Cubs in late September - rooting for the Giants, naturally, and I figured that this would be the best place to ask for advice on where to eat, what to do in the city, etc.
My tickets are behind third for the Friday game (I think that's the 25th) and in the RF arcade on the day game on Sunday. In retrospect I probably should have asked for ticket purchasing advice here before actually buying them, but oh well. I hope they're good seats. Anyway, what in AT&T Park should I make an effort to check out? Is there any must-have food around? What's the beer selection like (important!)? And as for the sad time of my vacation where I am not at a ballpark, what parts of the city do I absolutely have to see? Oh, and what's the weather going to be like?
Cheers.
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Arcade seats are fantastic.
Actually any seat at the Park is great. The months of September and October are the best times of the year to visit SF.
As for food, you can’t go wrong with the Sheboygans near the walkway to the left bleachers. Past the gigantic Coke bottle and Build-A-Bear, Orlando Cepeda’s vendor stand has the famous Cha-Cha Bowl and Baby Bull Sandwich. Across from that stand, you can buy an open face crab sandwich. Under the centerfield bleachers, there is a hidden gem of a fried dough stand. There is an Irish pub style vendor that serves Irish Nachos. Can’t go wrong with Gordon Biersch garlic fries. Beer selection is numerous throughout the Park, so you shouldn’t have a problem with choosing your favorite $10 beer.
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 14, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
The Baby Bull is gone, as far as I know
And now the obligatory Link to the Cha Cha Bowl review/ breakdown
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There was some good advice in this post a few months ago.
Weather in late Sept. is usually warm.
My only concern for you would be the timing of Fleet Week which looks to begin October 8th, hopefully you’re well out of town by then.
weather
My nephew’s birthday is on 9/25, and almost every year it is very warm (like 80-85) and there’s usually no fog. So, be prepared for ballpark weather as you are accustomed to, but also be aware that it could be downright hot at the Sunday game in the arcade, particularly for someone who is used to clammy weather for baseball like we are. You should be able to get away with a sweatshirt for the night game but I’d imagine you are already equipped for whatever our September could hand you in the unlikely event it turns cold.
I don’t believe any food in the park is worth what they charge for it. The pizza at Amici’s across the street is edible; there’s a great big Safeway at 4th and King where you can get supplies, bottled water, etc. There’s also a Walgreens up 4th St in case you need any sunblock or whatnot.
Food recommendations might depend on where you are staying. Assuming Seattle’s mexican food is anything like that in Oregon, you should try to eat in a taqueria at least once.
My favorite is La Corneta: there’s one right atop the 24th St. BART station:
Note: I am not endorsing these Yelp reviews, just using them for the location info.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-corneta-taqueria-san-francisco
There’s also one near the Glen Park BART station.
If you want to walk a bit in the Mission and try a real hole in the wall, try El Tonayense at 24th and Shotwell. You might want to do this during the day…
http://www.yelp.com/biz/el-tonayense-san-francisco
If you want to sort of wander around and try things San Franciscans actually eat, try getting out at the 16th St. BART and walking up to Valencia St. There are a whole bunch of things around there, from Vietnamese at Sunflower, Indian at Pakwan or Al-Hamra (which I prefer), or (supposedly) NY style pizza at Arinell. There are also more trendy joints like Delfina and Tartine if that is your bag of nuts.
http://www.yelp.com/search?find_loc=509+Valencia+St%2C+San+Francisco%2C+CA+94110&cflt=restaurants
Finally, if you want a decent day trip somewhere else, you might take BART over to Berkeley. It’s quiet because it’s summertime, but still a nice walk through the campus to Telegraph Ave. and its grunge. If you are eating by campus, you might want to try the cafe formerly known as intermezzo
http://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-mattina-berkeley?rpp=40&sort_by=date_desc
If you like pizza, particularly deep dish pizza, you should take the very pleasant walk down to Zachary’s, technically in Oakland. You can use the Rockridge BART station to return to SF.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/zacharys-chicago-pizza-oakland?rpp=40&sort_by=date_desc
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
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from the hilar ‘Driving in San Francisco’ cut appearing on several Cos LP’s.
Winnah!
Mine was “Why Is There Air?”
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
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I’m amused that Zachary’s is “technically” in Oakland.
There’s actually also one in Berkeley, but it’s up in North Berkeley on Solano, and is less BART-able.
In the Mission, I like Taqueria San Jose. They make a mean al pastor burrito.
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Also, if you’re a music fan, you have to visit Amoeba on Haight Street in The City. You can get there pretty easily via the N Judah.
If you like to read and you visit Berkeley, you have to visit Moe’s Books on Telegraph. In the past Cody’s and Black Oak would’ve been on this list too, but no more. :(
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I was sad when I walked by Black Oak a couple days ago and saw it was closed.
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They still have a warehouse space in West Berkeley, and they’ll be opening a small retail space there in a couple of weeks. Still, it’s not the same.
It’s especially sad for me personally, because my family has a lot of history with the store – my dad worked there for a few years in the 80s, and I had my first job ever there in the late 90s, while I was in high school and the year after.
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ehh. Black Oak more or less set themselves up for it with their pricing.
Moe’s is absolutely worth the visit, though.
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by haverecords on Jun 14, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Back when I was working there, Black Oak’s pricing structure was pretty much identical to Moe’s. If that’s changed over the years (I don’t know – I’ve shopped at both places many times over the years but never paid much attention) it would’ve been in an attempt to survive in the changing economic climate.
There’s a big difference between Moe’s, which has survived, an Black Oak and Cody’s which haven’t, and that is that Moe’s owns their building, while Black Oak and Cody’s were tenants. These days, it’s pretty much impossible for an independent book store to survive paying fixed retail rent – if they own their own building and don’t pay rent, or if they work out a deal where they pay a percentage of their sales as rent, they can make it, but if they have a traditional rent structure, it’s very, very tough to get by at all.
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Yeah, the sign in Black Oak’s window mentioned that pretty specifically.
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Yeah. The building ownership is definitely an issue.
I don’t think that was decisive here, though.
The used book ‘game’ changed considerably once the internet (amazon, and engines like bookfinder, addall) became the force it currently is, and only Moe’s has really adapted.
Previously, if you had a $40-200+ book you could let it sit at maximum value until you sold it, since most of the buying was walk-in and if you were looking for said book , you had to make your move once you saw it, do to scarcity. Now, though, the internet savy stores, and warehouse net sellers will almost always provide a much better deal, and buyers are not geographically limited anymore.
So, in order to survive, places like moe’s based their pricing on the internet such as to move the book soon: the reduced price the internet provided set the market, and if a book did not sell within a few months, it would be reduced in price so as to move. The industry became turn-over based, instead of maximum value hoarding. Of course, you still have the heavy hitters in the 4th floor special room, but that is really just candy on top: most of the money is coming from the high turnover model.
I say this as one who has a number of close friends who work at moes, and I made my living by selling used books online (and to stores) for a a number of years.
I never saw Black Oak adjust any of their habits in any significant way. They picked up pricing via the internet, but continued to list the items top dollar. So they just sat (and i’ve been keeping track of particular titles for years), and sat and sat. No reductions, and at that point, that is just lost capital.
To be sure, there is a lot of effort in getting some of the quality books they have. But why should I, or anyone who isn’t filthy rich, pay 140 for a book for which I can get for 80 on the net? Its already tough enough trying to pay 80, and at that point any plea for localism is some bobo fairy tale.
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I don’t doubt that there were bad business decisions involved. One simple one is that, years ago, they drastically reduced their stock of new books in favor of used, which ended up having a negative effect on the number of people who came into the store. And, actually, almost all the store’s long term employees left the store a couple of years ago because they considered it a sinking ship. There were also some other issues I don’t really feel like going into.
But a lot, if not all, of what’s happened probably would’ve happened regardless. It ain’t just Black Oak and Cody’s – bookstores are falling all over the place – aside from the independents, Borders is in a lot of trouble, too. Both Black Oak and Cody’s went through ownership changes, negotiations with landlords, and, in Cody’s case, location changes. None of that did anything but delay the end, and I doubt anything else would’ve done more than further delaying it. These days, it’s probably just unlikely that such a large number of bookstores are going to survive in one area, even one like Berkeley that has a long tradition of bookstores. However we may debate about the cause, I personally find that really, really sad. I just hope that this is the end of the die-off for now, although I’d be surprised if it was.
And I’m glad that it looks like Black Oak will survive in some form, at least. Unlike Cody’s.
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I find it sad, too…but may be nearing the end of the die off, if only because most shops have already died off.
I’m not sure i’d be too hard about Black Oak going to more used, than new books. I think that move was along the right path, but they didn’t move toward the used books in the right way, making it a bad move overall. The book business right now is poisonous for the most part, but new books are a lethal dose for the local niche stores, as Cody’s sadly experienced.
I guess i’m more sympathetic toward’s Cody’s than Black Oak, but only because I kept on going in to black oak, and it was frustrating to watch them keep on failing to ‘get it’, along with the continually disappointing experience of seeing excellent stuff at outrageous prices: at first it is cool just to see it, but after awhile it just gets irritating, especially when it isn’t really necessary. Nonetheless, I am sad to see them go.
Cody’s was just shit out of luck, sadly. There wasn’t really anything they could or should have done, but didn’t. While I don’t mind what amazon has done for used books, I hate their wal mart tactics with new books: ultimately, that was what did Cody’s in (along with the berkeley’s idiotic plans for telegraph ave). Academic books are expensive, and the buying audience isn’t rich, and local stores simply cannot make money selling the books for what amazon does—as amazon well knows.
One can fault the publishers too, but they are seriously hurting as well. As annoying as the academic publishing houses publishing way may more titles than they should, that is a product of the silly world of the academy, where you often need a book published—even if it really need not be—if you want a job.
Even more sadly, the ultimate problem here is probably our society’s inability to cultivate a healthy ‘high brow’ reading public. Or even a healthy ‘middle brow’, to use the classic terms of the discussion. While there are more ‘readers’ now that ever before, the quality of the readings are thin to gaunt. I recall being pleasantly surprised by the generally strong to excellent literature taste among the Mccoven. I don’t think many of the writers of the last 30 years are worth reading, but the ones that are, are the ones people here were reading. The dirty little secret is that these books don’t make any money. Often, in fact, they are net loss, and propped up by Oprah’s book club, or worse.
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by haverecords on Jun 14, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
My understand about the new/used thing is that it wasn’t so much about selling fewer new books, but that, when they reduced the number of new books they carried, it hurt the number of people who came in to browse. Like, people came in to get some new release, and then spent a lot of time in the store, and ended up coming away with a bunch of stuff. But that’s pretty much third hand information, from an employee who left a couple of years ago to my father to me.
In the end, though, like I said, the why doesn’t really matter too much to me.
Since we’re talking about it, though, do you know anything about the situation with Pegasus/Pendragon? I don’t really, but the fact that they’re still running three stores and I haven’t heard anything about any of them being at risk of closing seems like a good sign.
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I haven’t either, and I’m still surprised they are around, and shocked that there almost no outward signs of struggle.
I suspect that they either own, or have a good deal in their locations, with the ‘good deal’ being more likely. Each location would be a hard fill at the moment, should they leave, so that might be keeping the property managers sane.
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for the musicals
there is an Amoeba on Telegraph in Berkeley, right next to the Rasputin’s world HQ, both stuffed with goodies.
If you’re not leaving SF there’s a good-sized Rasputin’s outpost on Powell St. near the cable-car turnaround.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 14, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
What do people think? Is there a difference between Berkeley amoeba and SF amoeba? I personally like Berkeley better but I don’t really know why.
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 14, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The SF store is a lot bigger and thus has more stuff, but otherwise I don’t think there’s much difference.
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SF is better, and it isn’t really close. But that is only an issue if you trying to get some of the more difficult to find stuff: the vinyl selection in sf is much better, and the specialty (psych/prog, experimental, international underground, and metal, among others) is far more prevalent at the SF store. The berkeley store will sometimes get some of these same rarities, but never at the same count.
For the more common indie stuff, they are equal, though.
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if you’re music nut…
it is always worth checking out Aquarius Records. That is, only if you’re of the sort who often doesn’t find what they’re looking for, even in amoeba.
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predictable drift
So , Haverecords , do you haverecords?
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll second Aquarius for music shopping. The bookstores along the Valencia corridor are good as well, as are the eateries (like Range for example) and bars (Elbo Room, Kilowatt, Elixer, Cassanova, Dalva…)
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Shakespeare & Co.
up the street is also worth a look if you are a used-book freak. Not a huge selection, but pretty eclectic and some real finds squirreled away.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 14, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
/Insert my obligatory “How long are you going to be there? Go to Yosemite!” post.
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And only thing I have to say is if you are sitting in the Arcade during a day game, sunblock yourself up.
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Sitting almost anywhere during a day game=sunblock. I got burned pretty bad last summer in the third deck.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 14, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And if you go to a night game...
bring layers, no matter how it feels when you go out or what the forecast is.
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate it
when I get surburn on my third deck
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Another reply to myself…
I’ve never been there, ask me again in a month and a half, but does Zeke’s have nice beer or is it just a nice meeting place?
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We’ll have to find out! Since I discovered draft beer I’ll have to try what they have.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 14, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Arcade seats are a great pick. Frankly there’s no bad seat in the house. Arcade seats are good for the views, and you’re close to the good food in the Fanlot. There’s a stand close to the Crab Shack that has Anchor Steam on tap (my personal favorite draft beer). The Crab shack also has good stuff like lobster rolls, crab sammich, etc. if you’re into seafood. I like Orlando’s BBQ and the Cha Cha Bowl: black beans, jerk chicken, rice, and pineapple salsa. There’s also a carvery sandwich area on the third deck that has killer huge sandwiches; turkey, brisket, or pulled pork on a sourdough roll. Best.
The Acme Chophouse is overrated, IMO. It’s overpriced and the food isn’t great. The food is okay at Momo’s, across the street from the park. But the bar is ridiculously crowded after games and the bartenders can’t mix a drink to save thier lives.
If you’re looking for a sit-down place for a bite before the game, 21st Amendment on 2nd street is good. It’s a brewhouse with a pretty decent food menu.
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Nope, I can see the flag. Perhaps it’s a secret way of flagging you, but I can see it.
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by Graham MacAree on Jun 14, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I ain't payin' $7 for iceberg lettuce.
/dissed
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
There's this Chinese restaurant in Japantown run by Koreans....
Which is a decent place for lunch.
And your seats will be pretty amazing.
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Which reminds me...
If you want Chinese food, don’t get it in Chinatown. Counterintuitive, I know, but you can find better food elsewhere.
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The one thing that I absolutely cannot get anywhere else outside of Chinatown
Those coin wallets that have the keychains on the inside.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
Oakland Chinatown has some good food, though. Although the thing about cleanliness still applies.
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Yeah, Oakland is a different story, but I’m assuming Graham will be in SF.
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Yeah. Just throwing that out there since stuff to do in the East Bay has been discussed above.
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Chinese Food:
R and G lounge
631 Kearny St.
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Get the Salt & Pepper Crab, and the Special Beef. Mmmmm….
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haven’t been back for a while, is Clown Alley open/closed still…? They make a delicious burger
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I haven't eaten there
but walked by a few times and noticed that they seemed to have table service, of all things, and a menu, so it looked like whatever was left of Clown Alley (except the location) is gone, gone, gone.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to congratulate the McCoven
For not suggesting Bayview, Hunter’s Point, or the Tenderloin
You are all quite the civilized group of people, I must say.
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take a trip through scenic North Richmond: it is an exciting place, with all the people who congregate on the street corners, and the native homeless who have a penchant for entertaining tourists by doing their Mad Max routine, using trash cans as permanent heating devices. And, much like Las Vegas, the police will leave you alone: oh, you’ll see a few cruisers, but sure as shit, they never get out of the car…so Visit the local Vegas under the coastal fog, and who knows what you will score!!
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good places to eat in each
but I wouldn’t suggest them to a tourist. Old Clam House= pretty awesome, and historic.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey hey
The Tenderloin has Lee’s Sandwich and Falafel/Kebab….
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
McCovey's
There is a place in Walnut Creek, which is 15 mins walking or so from the BART station in W.C. HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT! Ton of memorabilia, signed jersey’s, bats, baseballs and such, along with a ton of TV’s to watch games. Good place to go out and eat dinner at.
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