Best Giants Pitches of All Time
by Chulk on Jun 13, 2009 3:34 PM PDT
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Watching Timmy's mastery of the changeup in last night's shutout got me thinking--how does his compare to the next best change we've ever seen (Jason Schmidt). So I went and found this game to compare the two. After watching video of Schmidt's 16 K performance against Florida, I was reminded how insanely nasty his changeup was at 90 mph with sharp bite down and in to a righty. So that all said, I thought I'd ask everyone about their list of the nastiest Giants pitches of the last couple decades. Here's my list:
- Jason Schmidt's changeup
- Robb Nen's slider
- Russ Ortiz' cutter
- Felix Rodriguez' fastball
- Shawn Estes' curveball
- Timmy's everything
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Lance Niekro knuckleball.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 13, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Robb Nen slider
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 13, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget Robb Nen. He had a pretty good slider.
by Grant on Jun 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard about this closer we had
Robb Nen. Didn’t he have a decent slider?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re thinking of Benitez.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 13, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was okay. Even better though was Robb Nenn’s slider.
by non sequitur on Jun 13, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Ren?
Who was thsi guy?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on Jun 14, 2009 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Munter!
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 13, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bowling ball
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 13, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who is the owner of the most hittable fastball of all time?
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on Jun 13, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say whatever you want
Dude got groundballs.
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 13, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad they were ripped through the infield.
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by jponry on Jun 13, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was my favorite player in 2005 :D:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on Jun 14, 2009 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, I hated him irrationally almost from his first game.
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by jponry on Jun 14, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nen’s slider was unhittable. I’ll never forget that pitch as long as I live.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 13, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Same
That fucker went down. It was like a split, and if I’m remembering correctly, many announcers thought it was a split. It would be pretty sweet to have a job where I have to do no work whatsoever and most people still assumed I was a genius in my field.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nen's slider at its best..
..was absolutely unfair. I don’t know who could have mistaken it for a split, but I guess it didn’t act like a slider either. Sometimes he’d throw the thing at 92mph, it would start out shoulder level, and end up nearly bouncing on the plate. It was a thing of beauty, especially to lefties.
by wcw on Jun 13, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Sean West count?
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Jun 13, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, we’re talking about pitches that were real.
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by groug on Jun 13, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What pitch who when?
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by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This adds nothing, and I apologize for that, but Timmy’s change last night was fucking filthy.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why limit it to the past 2 decades?
I’d add Christy Mathewson’s screwball, Carl Hubbell’s screwball (he once struck out 5 straight hitters in the ‘34 All-Star game with it – including Ruth, Gehrig, and 3 other future HOFers), and (to add 2 that I actually did see) Marichals fastball (all 1,000 varieties of it) and Gaylord Perry’s spitter.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 13, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Most of us haven’t seen Giants games before the last two decades..
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by lmaozedong on Jun 13, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to start getting up earlier.
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Marichal have a crazy screwball too? I heard/read an anecdote some years back where he apparently struck Micky Mantle out on three straight screwballs looking.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on Jun 14, 2009 2:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Juan threw everything, and from multiple angles.
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by Lyle on Jun 14, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the sad thing is...
Woody from any year (not only the ones when he was pretty good) would absolutely destroy our current lineup.
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on Jun 13, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I could coax a quality start out of our lineup.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
against our lineup
Though I bet Pablo could throw 6 shutout against this team.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 13, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowry’s 2004-2005 changeup.
It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.
by imovermyhead on Jun 13, 2009 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was going to mention this. During the short time that Lowry was healthy and his control was stable – which, admittedly, wasn’t a very long period – his changeup was as good as just about any I’ve seen.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always liked Russ Ortiz’s curveball.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2009 5:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking Garrelts’ fastball, before Roger Craig got a hold of him and taught him the split. He consistently threw it over 100mph. As I mentioned before, I named my oldest son after him, when he was the only Giant selected to the 1985 all star team.
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by rxmeister on Jun 13, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding those Lincecum pitches...
From a post at Athletics Nation:
Let’s say something here: Tim Lincecum is sick,; his changeup would make you cry if you had to face it, and serious ML hitters just walk away questioning why they bother… they are, to quote The Boss (even though the Manfred Mann arrangement might be the best 7 minutes 5 seconds of music ever recorded by human beings) wrapped up like a deuce, another runner in the night. The way his fastball and change look so identical, it’s just not fair, it’s not… add the sick curve and the slider and the Cy Young hardware is not an aberration or a joke. Whether a small wiry guy like that, who will no doubt be required to produce ID at establishments that serve alcohol at least until he is 70 years old, can keep his arm attached to his body with a violent, whippy motion like that remains to be seen, but for now he is Utterly Devastating with the cap letters earned.
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by hairball on Jun 13, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw Springsteen on VH1 doing a funny bit about that song. He said Manfred Mann took his line about a car in the cover version (deuce) and turned it into a feminine hygiene product. (douche) He said the public spoke and they wanted the hygiene product and that was why the cover went to number one.
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by rxmeister on Jun 13, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Springsteen version of Blinded by the Light, because I love the stream of consciousness unrefined song writing, it’s kind of like seeing greatness developing right before your eyes (like when I saw MadBum pitch for San Jose), but I’ve never cared much for the Manfred Mann version.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 14, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although I remember standing and looking at the Boss on both Time and Newsweek in a grocery store I was already loving the Mann arrangement before I had heard the Springsteen version.
To this date nothing has changed my sentiment.
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol violent and whippy like.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gaylord perry spitball
matt morris gopher ball
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Jun 13, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Livan's garbage pitch
unbelievable!
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by The Thrill on Jun 13, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean his fastball?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pat Misch fastball
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on Jun 14, 2009 2:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not one of the best.
But Vanlandingham’s fastball with a will all its own was a kick.
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by haverecords on Jun 14, 2009 3:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm. Marichal's Fastball
All three of them.
Nothing from Estes should be on that list.
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by stevieg on Jun 14, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Shawn Estes curveball was pretty damn phenomenal, he regularly made big league hitters look foolish with that pitch. One of my all time favorites was seeing him completely buckle Timo Perez’s knees during that otherwise forgettable series.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 14, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Estes and Zito curveballs
see , I grew up thinking (reinforced by the hook I myself was able to throw for one solitary year of my entire life) that the only possible way a curve could be delivered was sidearm or 3/4 , and that its action would go from outside toward the plate , depending on the arm used. So seeing pitchers who throw a 12/6 was frankly mind – boggling. And when first introduced to the arm mechanics employed by the modern pitcher – well , I just winced in pain.
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
despite the bad taste and bad karma
this Henny fastball was a nice pitch
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