minor lines, 6/11/09
by steve S on Jun 11, 2009 10:45 PM PDT
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Hitting highlights: (a) Ben Copeland homered while reaching base three times; (b) Thomas Neal also homered while reaching base three times; (c) Josh Mazzola was a third Giant to homer while reaching base three time; and (d) Conor Gillaspie had three hits plus a walk.
Pitching highlights: (e) Scott Barnes allowed just 2 ER in 7.0 IP, his longest start of the year; (f) Brooks McNiven allowed just 1 ER in 7.0 IP, also his longest start of the year; and (g) Ramon Ortiz had 5.0 scoreless IP in his start.
AAA: Fresno defeated Portland 5-0
(scoring a run in each of the first four innings)
Fresno: CF Ben Copeland: 2 for 4, HR, BB
Fresno: LF John Bowker: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, 2 SO, CS
Fresno: 1B Jesus Guzman: 1 for 4, HR
Portland: SS Everth Cabrera: 2 for 4, 2 SO, SB
Fresno: RHP Ramon Ortiz: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Fresno: LHP Alex Hinshaw: 1.0 IP, 1 BB, 2 K
Portland: LHP Joe Thatcher: 1.0 IP
Copeland and Bowker both had an XBH, a single, and a walk while reaching base three times. Copeland's XBH was his 2nd HR. In the 1st inning, Guzman had his 9th HR. Cabrera, who is a Rule 5 pick of the Padres now on a rehab assignment, had two singles in his first PCL game.
Making his second start among twenty appearances, Ortiz threw 80 pitches (53 strikes). Five shutout innings lowered his ERA to 2.63. Hinshaw threw 12 of 19 pitches for strikes in a scoreless 8th inning. In the other half of the 8th inning, Thatcher had a perfect inning, in his first game back in the PCL after spending the past month in the majors.
AA: Connecticut defeated Bowie 2-1
Connecticut: C Jackson Williams: 1 for 2, 2B, SH
Bowie: 1B Brandon Snyder: 2 for 4, 2B, SO
Connecticut: RHP Brooks McNiven: 7.0 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
Connecticut: LHP Joe Paterson: 1.0 IP, 1 K
Connecticut: RHP Danny Otero: 1.0 IP, 1 K
While no one reached base twice for the Defenders, Jackson did provide their only XBH with his 10th double of the season. He has shown a fair amount of secondary average with his line of .232/.326/.336 through 125 ABa, though that still offers an OPS well below .700. Snyder, whom the Orioles drafted 13th overall in 2005, has enjoyed a breakout season with an OPS over 1.000, hitting .355/.418/.612 through 183 AB. He has had two hits in all three games against Connecticut.
Making his eighth start among eleven appearances, McNiven enjoyed his longest start of the year, facing just three batters over the minimum despite allowing eight baserunners. He had a 13/5 GO/FO line. His ERA remains above 4.50, though. Paterson and Otero both pitched a perfect inning, helping both of them to maintain their sub-1.00 ERAs. Otero also earned his 13th save.
A+: San Jose defeated Bakersfield 12-2
San Jose: DH Tyler Graham: 2 for 4, HR
San Jose: SS Brian Bocock: 0 for 5, 3 SO
San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 2 for 4, HR, BB
San Jose: C Buster Posey: 0 for 1, BB, SO
San Jose: RF Roger Kieschnick: 1 for 5, HR
San Jose: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 3 for 4, 2B, BB, SO
San Jose: 2B Nick Noonan: 3 for 5, 2B, 2 SO
San Jose: LHP Scott Barnes: 7.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7 K--1 HR, 2 HB
San Jose: LHP Dan Runzler: 1.0 IP, 1 BB
Neal and Graham each had two hits, including Neal's 10th HR and Graham's 4th HR. Kieschnick added his 9th HR. Gillaspie and Noonan each had three of the Giants' sixteen hits, raising their respective AVGs to .279 and .242. Only two Giants starters did not have hits, one of whom was Posey, who left the game in the middle of the 4th inning, after being out on a force play at second base in the top half of the inning. The other was Bocock, who suffered the oh-fer with the hat trick. Since being demoted to the Cal League, his SO/AB is now above 25.0%, and his OBP is below .270.
Barnes had his longest start of the season, lowering his ERA just below 4.00. His 7 K was just one shy of his season high. Runzler made his Cal League debut pitching a scoreless 8th inning.
A-: Augusta defeated Charleston 5-4
Augusta: RF Josh Mazzola: 2 for 4, HR, 2B, BB, 2 SO, E
Augusta: C Matt Klimas: 2 for 4
Augusta: LHP Eric Surkamp: 4.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7 K
Augusta: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 1 K
Mazzola had a big night. His 4th HR and 13th double were the GreenJackets' two XBHs. He also reached base a third time with a walk as he improved his season line to .275/.338/.429 thorugh 189 AB. Klimas was the other GreenJacket with a multi-hit line, improving his AVG to .293.
Surkamp got seven of his twelve outs by strikeout. His K/BB ratio is just shy of 6.00. He has both a H/IP and a K/IP ratio above 1.00, which seems fairly atypical for a minor league pitcher. At least he does have more strikeouts than hits (70 K and 60 H in 55.0 IP). The game included a 99-minute delay, and that may have been what limited Surkamp to four innings in thsi start. Quirarte has earned a save in both of SAL appearances.
DSL: Giants defeated Cubs2 15-4
Dominican: 2B Cesar Osuna: 4 for 5, BB, E
Dominican: Ariel Hernandez: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Osuna (19.4 y.o.) had four hits, as well as a walk, to boost his AVG to .262 through ten games. He has yet to have an XBH this season after having 21 XBH a year ago. After a relief appearance three days earlier in his pro debut, Hernandez (17.3 y.o.) made his first pro start, pitching five scoreless innings.
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Do'h!
That was meant to be a response to the above post.
by Squire_Boone on Jun 11, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowker gonna replace Lewis?
I gotta think the FO is tempted to try Bowker out in the majors again soon. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him getting a chance to start in a month or so.
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by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 12, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
What’s the scoop on Posey being replaced in the 4th?
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 11, 2009 10:57 PM PDT reply actions
I want Gillaspie and Noonan to keep hitting well like they did today.
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Continue to lead the pitching staff, call a good game, stop the running game and lay down the sacrifice.
Looking at the box scores it is interesting to watch Defenders manager fill out his lineup cards. Tonight Brandon Crawford was the cleanup hitter.
Baggz thinks Bumgarner could be up soon
The biggest reason I think Sanchez will be traded in the coming weeks: Madison Bumgarner is 4-0 with a 1.86 ERA in five games at Double-A Connecticut. Nobody’s told me Bumgarner will be in the big leagues this season, but I’ve got to believe it can’t be long.
I don't think that'd be a good idea
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I don’t either. When I saw Bumgarner throwing in SJ, he had the great fastball and an effective slider, but he still had a tendency to let the slider flatten out. I didn’t see any offspeed stuff at all. Are we really ready to throw a future cornerstone of the rotation to the dogs when he has two pitches, one that’s not 100% reliable?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 12, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it would be quite valuable to bring Bumgarner up to see how he does. If he does get knocked around a bit because he lacks effective secondary pitches, then he should be well-motivated to work on them.
Now he may be very coachable and motivated now, but sometimes showing guys works better than telling them. And of course he gets to taste the bigs, which will take some of the pressure and nerves away for next time.
I also would be fine with leaving him in the minors until a September cup of coffee. Something, though, will have to be done with Sanchez. He just isn’t improving, and even this team isn’t going to be patient if he walks 7 guys in a game.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 12, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I would normally agree, but watching Sanchez struggle, and then seeing Ramon Ortiz converted into a starter and actually pitching well, scares the shit out of me. Bring up Bumgarner!!
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At this point I would rather see Pucetas than Madbum. Let Madbum finish off the year in AA and start next year in AAA then bring him up in the middle of May. That will delay the start of his arbitration clock. We are going to have a ton of really expensive pitchers in a couple of years and having Madbum getting paid nothing with really help with the budget.
I’d rather see Pucetas than Bumgarner brought up, as well – and that’s mostly for MadBum’s sake, not Kevin’s.
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Pucetas or even Sosa?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 12, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s good to see Noonan and Gillaspie have good games. I still have some hope for Conor. Noonan is a different story, but he’s still got youth on his side I guess.
Hey, it’s not like Conor is Andy Marte. Still plenty of time.
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his K/BB rate is still awesome
It’s still early. One good week can raise that BA over .300
At least Conor has a decent OBP. No one was expecting power from him (but I think we were all expecting something more like .440 and less like .360).
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lol xanthan likes his package
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You’re reminding me of one of those out-of-context political ads.
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Are you bailing on Noonan already?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 12, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Me too. But I’m still on board.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 12, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
They are both kind of a mixed bag. I feel like Gillaspie has better hitting skills but Noonan is probably the better fielder / baserunner between the two. Maybe if we can splice them together?
Conooner
Now you’re talking.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 12, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Conick Noonaspie
Ninor Gillan?
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You mean you don’t have a top-secret new algorithm that proves Noonan will never make it (but that Bocock will transform himself into a 40-home run hitter by 2013)?
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Nah xanthan just bluescreens when you bring up Noonan.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 12, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I got a C- in Algebra II in high school and never took math again. My brain just exploded. :(
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I took xanthan’s beloved STATS and never saw anything like this.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 12, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
“Now”?
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I may have been able to decipher some of it back when I was still taking math classes, but I haven’t done that since high school.
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 12, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I see you’re integrating new offensive evaluations into your database.
They look a little derivative of better work though.
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Like others, I’m somewhat discouraged by Gillaspie’s year – enough to drop him out of our top ten prospects. But he’s at least looking like a good OBP guy, and there’s time for the rest to follow.
Noonan has even more time, but I haven’t really seen anything from him to indicate he’s a decent hitter. So far, his stats seem to be getting worse each year – against higher levels of competition, of course, and he’s young, blah blah blah, but it’s hard to be optimistic about him at this point.
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I agree about Noonan. His line was passable last year, for a guy his age, but still nothing special really. This year, it’s been worse. I’m not giving up on him but I was already a bit sour on him after last season and this isn’t helping. We’ll see how he does the rest of the year though.
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I just don’t see enough in the tool box for Conor. He could at least be a shopvac or hit for any kind of power or not have a Damon-esque noodle arm. He just seems ot have one or too many iffy tools for my taste.
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Regarding the arm, do you think he’d be a better fit defensively at second?
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I suppose it depends on what kind of range he has.
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The OBP is solid enough that I’m not giving up on him, but we have enough guys who hit .280/.330/.330 in the majors right now.
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I’m not giving up on him, I’m just not very impressed. Heck, his walk rates are about on a par with Wendell Fairley, Jackson Williams, and Brian Bocock, and I’m not too thrilled with any of them either.
At this point in time, Conor’s season line (.279/.362/.363) is extremely similar to Ehire Adrianza’s (.269/.350/.359). That’s not good to begin with, but add in that he’s playing in a much more hitter friendly league, doesn’t have anything like the defensive reputation, and rather than being than being a 19 year old Venezuelan who’s only been in the US for about a year, he’s a 21 year old who was supposed to have been one of the most advanced bats in last year’s college class, and it all add’s up to major step backwards in prospecthood for me.
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Apparently he was sick and could not go
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 12, 2009 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, Ramon Ortiz is good! We can tradeMattCainFerSomeBatz now!
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yes. he was demoted the other day to Augusta.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 12, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
EL Transactions
06/12/2009 – Brooks McNiven assigned to Giants Extended Spring Training from Connecticut Defenders.
06/12/2009 – Henry Sosa assigned to Giants Extended Spring Training from Connecticut Defenders.
I noticed that the team does this sometimes when they’re promoting or demoting players. Could Sosa be heading to Fresno?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 12, 2009 8:15 AM PDT reply actions
Two Part Fix
Could Sosa Sanchez be heading to Fresno?
Could Sosa be heading to Fresno San Francisco?
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by say hey nation on Jun 12, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah. that crossed my mind after I posted it, but I don’t see why they wouldn’t give Pucetas a shot first, other than Sosa is on the 40-man roster and Pucetas isn’t.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 12, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s a pretty big reason though. i mean, why would the giants risk losing one of aurilia, bocock, or velez for free just to make room for pucetas?
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right. that might be enough.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 12, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably nothing
It seems pretty common for a player, particularly a starting pitcher, to be stashed in roster limbo between starts. I don’t really understand the motivation, but I notice it happening quite often.
you may be right
but, I think they normally “reserve” them as a “stash” method, which is another intricacy of minor league transactions that I only partially understand.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 12, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I see “reserve” on the roster status a lot for the four active teams. My educated guess is since they’re using the six man rotation in CT (last I heard anyway) they need to make a roster move here and there to fit everyone in. Sosa’s doing fine, health wise and stuff wise, and they probably just stuck him on reserve after his start to get another starter on the active roster.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 12, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
SOSA FOR WRIGHT
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 12, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
DSL
Like seeing a 17 year old pitch 5 innings of shut out ball in the DSL – any idea what stuff he has? Let us give Noonan some time folks, he has been in a slump, but he is only 20 and when I have seen him play in Visalia, he is usually stinging the ball. Glad to see Gerald, Thomas and Roger recognized by Allstar selections.
Relax a bit about Sanchez folks. How long did it take Randy Johnson and Sandy Koufax to develop? I realize Sanchez is not in the class of either of them, but sometimes it takes a lefty a bit longer to harness his talent, for whatever reason. No need to rush MadBum anywhere – allow him to continue to pitch in AA and hopefully he is working on his secondary pitches.
Koufax is a red herring as far as that “lefties take longer to develop” concept goes. First of all he was a bonus baby, which meant he had to be stashed on the major league roster for two full seasons as soon as we was signed (and consequently never got any time to develop in the minors), and second, his mythical “development” coincided with two important factors: moving from the Colisseum (with it’s 200 foot left field wall and giants screen) to Dodger Stadium and the NL officially adopting a higher strikezone, which caused Koufax’ curve ball to be called a strike.
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by say hey nation on Jun 12, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
My oldest brother, who’s the Small Hall afficianado of all time, doesn’t believe Koufax should be a HOFer (and believe me, he’s just part of a much much longer list).
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He must be a pretty extreme career type guy… Obviously, Sandy’s entire career itself is not particularly impressive (and the whole thing is inflated by Dodger stadium) but what a peak!
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Yeah, HoF debates are usually divided between how you view the hall. If you’re a total career type, then Koufax might be underwhelming. But if you like peak value, he’s got a case.
Interestingly, he also doesn’t like people like, say, Don Sutton or Raffy Palmeiro who are just pretty good for a long time. He’ s more of a long peak type. Koufax, only with some 30s mixed in.
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I kind of agree with that, though Koufax certainly makes the cut for me. Really, what difference would it have made to our perception of him if he’d stuck around for a few more years?
Yeah. Longevity is good, but you shouldn’t get massive brownie points for Tomko-ing it up for another 3 or 4 years.
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Oh I agree. I’ve been having this argument with my brother for decades. But Koufax is an extreme case, and he forces you to think about where the cut off line is. It’s not just that his peak was 6 years, those six years are virtually his entire productive career. He sat on the bench for two seasons as a bonus baby, and then he had four more as a swing man with middling success. Then the peak. So how much shorter would that peak have to be to make you say, “not enough.” 5 years? 4 years?
I agree with Jponry’s comment about Pedro. And it’s rediculous to think that Pedro, who’s peak is at least arguably better than Koufax, and who’s peak or highly productive era is roughly TWICE as long as Koufax’s, may not get voted into the HOF because of WINZ. Despite the fact that his peak coincided with the greatest offensive era of all time, while Koufax’s coincided with the least offensive of all time, while pitching in the greatest pitcher’s environment ever constructed.
One of my favorite Bill James’ lines: “you needed a shirpa to find the top of the pitcher’s mound in Dodger Stadium in the 1960s.”
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Gamers don't need Sherpas
Good point about Koufax and the cut-off line. I think if Koufax had his six great years, preceded by 2 so-so years, and then an injury that ended his career, I might be more inclined to vote him into the Hall. Possibly. But the fact that those 6 years coincided with playing at Chavez Ravine and the pitcher-dominated 1960’s really makes me downgrade his results somewhat. If he had pitched longer…. maybe.
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Koufax was a great pitcher. Koufax was not the greatest pitcher.
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I once had a discussion elsewhere and said that Pedro’s peak was better than Koufax’s and some n00bs yelled at me for it.
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Totally. In “best pitcher ever” debates, Pedro is usually the first name I go with.
When you’re looking for the best pitchers in history, it’s best to start guys who put up sub 2.00 ERAs during extreme offensive eras.
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I still like this dude. Peak, career, general ridiculousness.
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I find this list to be among the most helpful at finding the best pitchers ever.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/earned_run_avg_plus_season.shtml
Note that your boy is well-represented.
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Not to mention, he did it in Fenway, a brutal pitchers park.
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Bocock's line this year
.171 / .298 / .186 in Connecticut
.210 / .259 / .306 in San Jose
It’s so bizarre that this man was an opening day starter in the majors last year.
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I honestly feel bad for him at this point. I don’t know if he ever would have been even a backup at the MLB level, but what happened to him last year was pretty shitty and I wonder how much of an affect it had on him.
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Jackson Williams career line
.231/.338/.369 in Salem-Keizer
.179/.275/.263 in Augusta
.231/.309/.369 in San Jose
.228/.324/.325 in Norwich
Add it all up and you get fasttrack promotions in the wacky world of Giants’ player development (Jax has yet to play over 50 games a any level).
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I wonder if he’ll be able to hit .200 when he inevitably gets to the majors.
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He’s destined for the majors. If he’s good defensively, then he’s going to be like Mike DeFelice or Sal Fasano – a backup C who kicks around from team to team, in and out of the minors.
That’s if he’s good defensively. I assume he is because he can’t hit.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 12, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
What’s the theory for catchers that the less they hit, the better their defense (rightly or wrongly) is perceived to be?
I think it’s like those trophies they give kids for “Participation”. You just really want to try to say something nice about somebody when they’re hitting .200. And since it’s so hard to tell how good a catcher is defensively anyway, that fits the bill perfectly.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Plus, for a fat kid he doesn’t sweat much. But seriously, if we can all see that his peak is as one of those bounce-around-to-every-team kind of guys, can’t we just jump-start the process and release him now? Pretty please? Then, in a couple of years, Wil can tell us how Jackson just hit 2 homers in a week for the last-place Reds. That would be in the Great American Ballpark, of course, and would triple his career total.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
I don't
He’s not good enough to play in the majors.
He got to play in the majors.
That’s more than most people will get.
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