Post-Game Recap: Giants Avoid the Sweep!
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 11, 2009 4:00 PM PDT
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PrintIt was an ugly, ugly game, and the Giants didn't deserve to win. With that out of the way, I'm a little curious about Bochy's strategy in the ninth -- specifically, pinch-hitting Edgar Renteria for Kevin Frandsen. It's not like Frandsen is an offensive force, and it's not as if he were more likely to get a hit than Renteria. But while I don't pretend to know exactly what Bochy was thinking, I'm sure it was a stupid thought.
"Well, Rent's been hot over the series, and Franny's been a little cold since coming up..."
"Well, Franny's never seen Qualls before, and Edgar's had success against him in .2 at-bats -- I think he's .1 for .2 -- so, it wasn't a hard decision."
"Well, Kevin's a young player,and Renteria has been pretty clutch for us all year..."
Again, it probably didn't cost the Giants the game, but I'm sure the rationale was just dippy. When you sit a rightie for a rightie, or a lefty for a lefty, you're insinuating that either a) the guy you sat is pretty bad, or b) the guy you're sending up is pretty good.
Even better decision: Scanning the bench for a pinch-hitter to send up against a hard-throwing right-handed pitcher, and coughing up Rich Aurilia. Not Andres Torres, but Aurilia. Aurilia is just as awful against right-handers as Burriss, so that kind of negated the whole idea in the first place.
Hindsight is 20/20? Oh, absolutely. If Aurilia hit a homer or Renteria hit a single, you'd be reading something totally different right now. But it isn't so upsetting that the moves didn't work out, it's that the ideas behind them were laden with veteranophilia and knee-jerk strategy.
Pro tip: Rich Aurilia should not hit against right-handed pitching if it can be avoided.
Pro tip: Edgar Renteria is not a completely useless player, but he isn't a player who should be put in high leverage situations unless he's hitting for the pitcher.
Eh. The road trip was a success overall, so this is probably overly negative. I'd really like the last three hours back, though. Also, watching Jonathan Sanchez pitch right now is a real chore.
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Giants hardly sweep anyone, but win a bunch of series. NEED TO LEARN HOW TO WIN
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Aurilia should not have been up unless he was bunting.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 11, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions
Aurilia should not have been up unless he was bunting. be on this team
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Aurilia should not have been up unless he was bunting. invited to Spring Training.
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Agreed, if by "bunting" you mean that red, white, and blue striped fabric.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 11, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
fake bunting
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Aurilia is making me sad
The whole situation is utterly out of hand. It has reached the point that I actually root for him to fail, hoping it will hasten his exit from the team. I couldn’t even be happy about the GW home run he hit last week, because I just kept thinking, “Great. Now that’s another month he’s not DFA’d.”
He was a good Giant, but he’s beyond toast. He just needs to retire and leave the stinking to the young guys.
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 11, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt he’ll voluntarily retire midseason.
I’m having a hard time believing that the team will DFA him. But he needs to be released. IIRC, It took a good long time for them to break it off with Durham last year, but at least it happened. Maybe if the team arranges for a minor league coaching position, he’ll more apt to leave.
But he gotta go.
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Agreed. It would take a release, not a designation. He won't retire mid-season.
Yes, they could soften the landing for him if he would agree to retire (coaching gig, full season payout as if released, promo for his wife’s CD, etc.) I don’t think it would help him retire, though. AND, in all honesty, I don’t want him to coach our young guys. I just don’t think his mental approach is anything I would want to replicate within the organization.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 11, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
right
Reuter was released and he was a huge fan favorite. Aurilia needs to go. He’s been a great Giant, but his time is passed and he is a part of the past, not the future.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point. I can’t think of any coaching position I would want him to have.
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 11, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, what's the difference?
I was under the impression that for a veteran like Aurilia, DFA and release are the same, since they can (and will) refuse the assignment and become a free agent. Is this not right somehow?
And yes, I know it is optimistic to think he might retire. Wish he would though. I also wish the manager would not use a .200 hitter as a pinch hitter in a close game.
IIRC, It took a good long time for them to break it off with Durham last year, but at least it happened.
Huh? Durham wasn’t released. He was traded to Milwaukee, after being one of our most productive hitters for the first half of the year.
by The Double Deuce on Jun 11, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
also
Durham was hitting .293/.385/.414 as our 2b; do you know how much we’d kill for that production now? He would be our 2nd best hitter. In fact, I bet Ray Durham today would still be our 3rd or 4th best hitter.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Haha, probably right. Besides 2007, Durham was actually one hell of a hitter for us, especially for a 2B. Too bad we were all so used to Kent at the time, Durham’s contributions seem to have gotten under-appreciated.
by The Double Deuce on Jun 11, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
he was a decent Giant. His production was often overlooked but he was injury prone. After the Giants removed him from the leadoff spot, he was a lot healthier and better. He was horrible in 2007, though, after signing that 2 year deal. It was a bonus that he rebounded in 2008 to enable us to trade him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, who the hell was I thinking of then? Sorry – I’m multitasking, and I goofed something up.
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Gotta be Castillo
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Duh. Of course. Castillo. Durham was one we thankfully traded away.
Gotta know when to get rid of the dead weight.
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Reuter
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
also:
Hammonds, as I recall; and what about Michael Tucker—wasn’t he DFA’d? (Too lazy to look and see.)
we traded Tucker to the Phils for Kelvin Pichardo.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought the Giants usually “arrange” a DL Stint for vets before release?
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yup
and it sucks. I really like the guy, but Brian Sabean and co are more interested in giving a 37 year old more AB’s than a 25 year old (Guzman) who’s shown nothing but hitting.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Got to take the opportunity you are given and run with it. Guzie came up and we all wanted him to continue to rake like he has in the PCL. To date he has yet to hit the ball past the pitchers mound. His demotion was warranted. Next time hope he does better
10 plate appearances
is enough to warrant a demotion?
He was only up then because of the DH.
by The Double Deuce on Jun 11, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
And my belief is that you don't know what you''re talking about
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
that's not what I was arguing
To date he has yet to hit the ball past the pitchers mound. His demotion was warranted.
What he said made no sense. 10 plate appearances is not enough to determine anything about any player.
Actually, Bocock was hitting .308 through his first 19 PA’s. With a .526 OBP.
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Saw a game Bocock played for San Jose a few seasons ago and while I am not a scout I did stay at a Holiday Express once and knew he is not a good hitter
Willie Mays went 0 for 12
He asked Leo Durocher, the Giants manager, to send him back down. Leo would have none of it. Next at bat, Willie hit a 500+ foot homer off Warren Spahn. Then he went 0 for his next 13 to start his career 1 for 26. I guess the Giants should have know he couldn’t hit.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I COULD TELL HE WAS GOOD THO
TOTLY SAW HIM IN THE MINORZ
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Well, I don’t really think it was his play that warranted the demotion, really. I think it was just the plan to call him up to DH while we played AL teams. If he would have impressed, maybe they would have found a spot for him, but as it was I believe it was just a taster for him. I’m sure he’ll be back soon, and hopefully get a longer look (and hit one out of the infield).
by The Double Deuce on Jun 11, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Look the Giants were hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. Bring up the smoking hot prospect to give the offense a boost. Hopefully he will continue to rake. If so then the organization has options.
Truly believe we all were hoping he would hit .300 with a dinger, bunch of doubles and ribbies. He didn’t even get the ball out of the infield. So they sent that bottle out to sea. Hopefully it returns with the promise we all hope for
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No one can demonstrate ANYTHING in 10 PA’s. Even if went out there for 10 PA’s, you couldn’t establish that I was or was not ready for ML.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 11, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
10 PA’s isn’t much true, but in all 10 Guzman looked overmatched. Also he was downright ATROCIOUS at first base, would you not agree? Just because a guy is raking at AAA doesn’t always mean he is ready for the bigs. I agree with Wilriv that had he showed a bit better in those 10 PA’s and in the field he might have stuck around.
There really isn't THAT much difference between AAA and ML pitching
Many pitchers in AAA are better than many in ML.
If a guy is hitting well in AAA, it is not very likely that he will be entirely over matched in the ML.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 11, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
+10000000
the list of guys who “raked” in Fresno and stunk in SF is, unfortunately, long and distinguished over the last few years.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 11, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
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are sad you forgot them
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by natteringnabob on Jun 11, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what the Phillies have done with the Pedro Feliz we all used to know and not love, but he’s a completely different hitter for them. Drawing some walks, hitting the ball the other way and batting around .300. In this series with the Mets, while their big hitters were going deep, he was starting one rally after another.
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I know the conversation is on hitting, but I’m fine with him being sent back down largely due to his glove. I’ve always been somewhat a believer in “you can hide gloves at 1B,” but Jesus sure smashed that idea. Here’s to hoping he’s a fast learner and the next time up he’s here to stay.
This
I didn’t mind the hitting, I thought that would come in time, but holy lord he was such a butcher that to make him the everyday or even platoon 1B at this point is probably not the best idea
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there is, but
Guzman has raked at every level he’s been in. He deserves a chance. I chalk up the 10 ab’s problem to nerves. He needs more of a chance. We need to find out what he can do. We don’t need that with Aurilia, for example.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
NO
he didn’t hit the ball out of the infield! That means he sucks! Didn’t you get the memo?!?!
FTR, I do think his defense precludes him from playing. He was truly awful there
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He had nice year in A+. The next year he did poorly in AA. He repeated AA, and again did poorly. He was demoted back to A+, and had his first really good year. As a 23 year old, in his 2nd year in A+, after having spent the past two years in AA. Then he moved to AA, and as a 24 year old, in his third year in AA, in a crazy hitters’ league, with a .406 BABIP, he did well. Now he’s a 25 year old in AAA, again in a extreme hitters’ league, again with a crazy BABIP, he’s doing well again. He’s still showing a poor K/BB ration, and he has little to no defensive value.
I do not see the appeal.
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you’re talking about how he did in a “crazy hitter’s league”, but it means something that he was THE best hitter in that league. He won the batting championship. Then he goes to the Venezuelan winter league, again a hitters league, but he wins the MVP and breaks the league RBI record. Now he’s again among the league leaders in AAA ball. While your portrayal of his past is accurate, young hitters have been known to find themselves thanks to maturity and perhaps finding the right coach. He has done more than enough to warrant a solid look at the big league level.
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Who do the A’s have DH-ing this year, seems like the dude needs an AL team. Or maybe he could take up tennis or cricket instead.
you’re talking about how he did in a "crazy hitter’s league", but it means something that he was THE best hitter in that league. He won the batting championship.
Winning the batting championship doesn’t make you the best hitter (see Freddy Sanchez in 2006). He was one of the best hitters in the league, though. But again – 24 years old, third year in AA, .406 BABIP.
Then he goes to the Venezuelan winter league, again a hitters league, but he wins the MVP and breaks the league RBI record.
Second in the voting for MVP was Gregor Blanco, who finished with a .349/.464/.512 line. Last year he slugged .309 for Atlanta. Eliezer Alfonzo was 4th in the league in SLG. Winter league numbers aren’t reliable.
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he hate Grizzleys.
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It’s probably because he’s so sad all the time it makes him into a pessimist.
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And besides
Guzman can backup the grounds crew, too.
He can rake!
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he wasn’t given much of a chance. He needs at least 100 ab’s to get a clearer picture of what he can do. By all accounts, he will hit at the major league level. Defense is the problem with him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
To date he has yet to hit the ball past the pitchers mound.
This is true, but the wrong way to look at it. He made some loud outs and had a much better approach at the plate (when compared to TI’s at the same time). 10 PAs does not warrant anything.
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 11, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Guzman is playing everyday in AAA. Would you rather he rode the pine in SF than bat everyday in AAA? Aurilia sucks this year, but at least his starts have been pretty rare. I wouldn’t want Guzman to take his place and just sit on the bench.
Now, when Pablo’s elbow feels better and they (hopefully) slide him back over to 3B? THEN maybe Guzman can come up, and be the everyday 1B. I hope I hope I hope.
by The Double Deuce on Jun 11, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I AM VERY ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!11!1!!!!!1
Lewis = :(
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Not today. He gave up 2 runs. It would have likely been less if Nate hadn’t errored a runner into scoring position.
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Ah , God. Faye Dunaway.
I’m mildly annoyed and I can absorb a little more for a little while longer.
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 11, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I worked a couple of times in a pharmacy in Manhattan where she was a regular customer. They told me she was a bigger bitch in real life than she ever played in any movie, including “Mommie Dearest.” Fortunately she never came in the store on days I was there.
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My reply: Not even your own fans give a shit about your team even when they win. This can be traced back throughout your entire team’s history back to when they were in Philly where Connie Mack had to sell off his HOF players repeatedly because they were losing money. Sound familiar there A’s fans? :D
My Reply: Move to Portland
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
My response: not in the last 20 years.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 11, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
A is for asshole
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
they make that clear
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
no wayz
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I predict that Timmy will pwn tomorrow night and we will win the series.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 11, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Pedro Feliz will not catch and Noah Lowry will not play Right Field and Randy Winn will probably not play 3rd base.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Not pinch-hitting for Sanchez in the 6th was just weird. He had looked terrible in the two innings before the 6th, had reached a high pitch count (for him), was coming off a 101 pitch start, and was leading off an inning in a 1 run ballgame. All while we had a nice leadoff hitter on the bench in Randy Winn. It probably wouldn’t have mattered, but that was just a bad call all around.
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I kept looking at it thinking it would explode too.
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 11, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like that guy from Thundercats.
by The Double Deuce on Jun 11, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Lion-O
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I was doing a GIS for “fountain of youth” for research and got this image as one of the results. Dang it.
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This photo makes it seem like the team is ready to jump Sanchez.
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just puttin him down slowly
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by theghostofjasonellison on Jun 11, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
that would make a great fanfiction
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“You let everybody down, kid.”
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 11, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Cracking up. Hysterical.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 11, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Lincecum is about to yell “Get ’em!”
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 11, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
UUUGGLY
and he still can’t hold a runner on to save his life.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Gave up ONE RUN in almost six innings, folks.
He’s our FIFTH starter. I die a little when I quote Benitez, but, um, Sanchez did his job today. He even took more pitches when he was batting than any other Giant. It wasn’t a Cy Young day by any means, but it wasn’t awful. We lost 2-1— by definition, that isn’t horrible pitching.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 11, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
It wasn’t a hugely encouraging start for the future, considering that he will need to cut down on his walks to be a solid starting pitcher in the majors. But it also wasn’t a bad start by any means. Just because I don’t think he’s likely to repeat this performance (in terms of runs allowed) the next time he walks 7 guys in 6 innings doesn’t mean that I can’t recognize that he did end up doing a decent job today.
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I’m not ragging on Sanchez, I like him still. But 7 walks in 6 innings isn’t a very good indicator of success to come.
looking at the bright side, how many times have we seen Sanchez fall apart under pressure, yet today with men all over the bases he continually got the big outs. Even though Arizona won the game, it must almost feel like a loss. He walked seven hitters and the only run they got off of him was a solo homerun by their best hitter. The last time we almost swept them they scored three in the ninth to tie and won in extra innings. That kind of win gets a team fired up. This win, with half our starters sitting on the bench, and the game ending with the tying run on third makes them feel like they were lucky they weren’t swept in their own ballpark.
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He walked 7 guys in 5.2 IP
The only reason he only gave up one run is because the AZ offense is tripping all over themselves.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 12, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I was kind of disappointed that he benched so many regulars today. I know it’s a day game after a night game, all the rain delays, blah, blah, blah, but it WAS a game within the division. Even if Bay Area fans are excited about the upcoming interleague series, the fact remains that this game was more important than the next few that follow. Rest a regular or two against the A’s.
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Are Bay Area fans excited about the A’s / interleague series? If it weren’t for the A’s being in town, we’d be going to a game this weekend. We don’t mind putting up with the dodger assholes, but the A’s fans… no thanks we’ll stay home.
I'm not excited. I hate interleague, period.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 12, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
This
Interleague is stupid. It unbalances the schedule and cheapens (imo) the World series.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 12, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
What bothered me about PH'ing for Frandsen
is that the team has said that this is Frandsen’s chance to stick around. If this really is the kid’s last chance, then actually give him that chance. If you have a solid left handed hitter off the bench in that situation, then you make that move but not for Renteria.
Seriously, has anyone seen my adopted brother?
I wouldn’t have done it, but I didn’t see anything wrong with it. Renteria has been solid in two out RBI situations this year, but the last out in the Florida series should have been fresh in Bochy’s mind.
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so Sanchez was that bad?
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Risking repeating myself, but he was not that bad.
1. He gave up ONE RUN in almost six innings.
2. He’s our 5th starter.
3. The 7 walks is a lot— so what? They were scattered enough they didn’t end up hurting the Giants much, beyond his pitch count. Even so, he pitched deeper into the game than his last 2 starts.
4. Not Cy Young game, but the Giants absolutely had a chance until the very last pitch of the game. Sanchez, our 5th starter, is not the problem.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 11, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with all this. Much like Fred Lewis, Sanchez can be frustrating to watch because he seems to be capable of so much more. But the performance is still decent; neither of those two are the problem. Our infield, with the exception of Pablo, is the problem.
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Is it a player problem or a coaching problem? We always seem to throw around the word “potential” and very rarely do we ever see that potential manifest itself.
Is it a player problem or a coaching problem?
Since this problem continues to occur, It would seem to be a Coaching problem.
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sanchez gave the giants the best start of the series. the end.
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by Speedforthewin on Jun 11, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Three straight pinch hitters to lead off an inning
That was one of the strangest things I’ve ever seen in a baseball game. Not that it was horrible (well, Aurilia was), but it was still strange.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Missed the game today, but checked out Gameday just in time to see Aurilia GIDP. Then I promptly yelled obscenities in the office.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 11, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions
ESPN vs. MLB Network
Thursday game was on MLB Network and they didn’t start their highlight show with Red Sox vs. Yankees. They covered Rockies-Brewers. Of course, ESPN covered Yankees-Red Sox first (after mentioning Lakers-Magic).
I do not remember the last time I actually watched ESPN. If I want baseball I watch MLB Network. If I want football I watch NFL Network. No more reason for ESPN until the Monday Night Football games are on again.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 11, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN fucking sucks
you can get all your highlights and stuff online, so there is literally no point in watching them unless you want live events. Even then, they ruin them with their god-awful announcers, so it’s better to just watch it muted with radio in the BG.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jun 11, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I bought a subscription to ESPN magazine simply because I wanted to be an ESPN “insider” and get all the trade rumors and scoops. I later learned that all their “inside stuff” is lifted from other websites. They keep auto renewing me, and I’m too lazy to call, but fortunately the credit card they have on file for me is expiring and they’ll be forced to cancel.
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
That is good to know, I have always been to cheap and poor to pay for it
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 12, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
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