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by bkrhater on Jun 11, 2009 6:04 AM PDT Comment 29 comments

So...Aaron Rowand. Huh; who would've guessed?

It was only a matter of time, wasn't it? ROWAND CONTINUES TO SWING THE BAT WELL !!!!11!!1, and I need to atone for posting NSFW Googled images of ball thongs and gushy happy fun-time prose about our beloved Gigantes.

We all know Rowand is streaky. It could be argued that he's been on an extended cold streak since he arrived. It could also be argued that he's fixed whatever was ailing him when Grant posted this, and he may have at last "arrived." All of this begs the question: If presented with a plausible trade scenario, what do we do with him? (OK, so maybe all of this only gently asks the question; I digress.)

Here are the vitals/indicators.

Bear in mind, he's due about $36M/3.

So, given the aforementioned, here's my poll. If you must mock my poll, please be gentle with regard to its length and/or size and/or ability to satisfy, for it knows not what it is.

(If this subject has already been broached, please accept my sincerest apologies.)

Poll

Assuming Rowand evens out, but remains relatively productive (by "relatively", I mean not "2008-April 2009 Rowand", but not "May 20-ish '09-Present"; somewhere in between), what would you do with him?

Listen to offers only if we're out of contention by July 10th or so, and only if the return is at minimum two B-level prospects and/or we don't have to eat any of his salary

30 votes

Keep him; we'll need his bat/gamerishness to remain in contention for the Wild Card

13 votes

Trade him, regardless of return or contention status and even if we must eat some of his salary; he's not a part of our future

36 votes

How can we trade him when he's destined to disappear into the vortex into which Panda is apparently being sucked?

0 votes

Snooze; beat it, bkrhater (no, seriously, beat it)

8 votes

I couldn't care less; I thought this was a poll about Conan O'Brien

28 votes

Thanks, dude. Now you've jinxed him and it doesn't matter how I vote, because he'll be useless hereafter

26 votes

141 votes | Poll has closed

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by natteringnabob on Jun 11, 2009 6:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

His improvement is mostly BABIP, but fangraphs data suggest he’s taking a few more pitches, and not hitting the ball on the ground as much. Anyone believe he might have changed his approach once he started batting leadoff?

by Evan on Jun 11, 2009 7:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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by rotorueter on Jun 11, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it’s the GRITTITUDE

Rowand’s bounce back has been pleasant. I just think he’s on one of his high BABIP tears.

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by xanthan on Jun 11, 2009 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Funny. Calling it “one of his high BABIP tears” makes it sound like it’s actually part of his skill set.

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by rotorueter on Jun 11, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think a high babip tear sounds like an unfortunate injury. An unfortunate injury that makes Rowand appear good at baseball.

by chilibean_3 on Jun 11, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fewer ground balls mean that he should have a lower BABIP, not a higher one.

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by Cookyman on Jun 11, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, that depends

If it is FB or LD that are replacing the GB

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by FairweatherFan on Jun 11, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We’re talking about his supposed change of approach. Turning GB into LD isn’t a change of approach, it’s just hitting better. Turning GB into FB, on the other hand, might be a sign that he’s trying to put the ball in the air more often. I don’t think it is, since his numbers are still pretty similar to his career ones, and the sample size isn’t great, but in theory it could be.

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by Cookyman on Jun 11, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh, I think he's just hitting better

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by FairweatherFan on Jun 11, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then it has nothing to do with hitting leadoff. Again, the question was whether hitting leadoff made Rowand change his approach, and whether that change of approach caused the improvement.

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by Cookyman on Jun 11, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Regarding a change of approach, would it cause a reduction in ground balls if a batter started hitting the other way more often? It’s a classic stereotype that a player trying to hit for power (read: overswinging) will try to pull everything and roll over on a lot of pitches. How do you analyze a players spray chart over time?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 12, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

By “change of approach” I was thinking that he knows that as a leadoff man his job is to get on base by any means necessary. This means he’ll be more receptive to the walk, or at least take a few more pitches; and as a result he’ll make better contact on the pitches he does swing at. But in fact he’s walking less as a leadoff man than he did lower in the order, so it’s almost certainly small-sample variation.

by Evan on Jun 13, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hope it doesn't turn into VD

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by The Thrill on Jun 11, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not claiming they’re related, I’m just saying it’s a good thing.

by Evan on Jun 11, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Send him off as quickly as possible

by ACgiant97 on Jun 11, 2009 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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by ejdacanay on Jun 11, 2009 8:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If you recall, Rowand did this last year when he hit like .340 through May. So he has done this before…

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by TexasRanger on Jun 11, 2009 9:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, this is certainly not out of the ordinary

I’m just interested to see how long he can keep it up.

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by FairweatherFan on Jun 11, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stay Hot Aaron Rowand

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by jctGamer on Jun 11, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Sell High

if possible. I have a nervous feeling he is going to be just good wnough to make us dream of wildcard berth and then bam, herpes.

by Giant Voodoo on Jun 11, 2009 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He will go 0 for 20 now.

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by Natto on Jun 11, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

you have 7 options in your poll

and they are all wrong, or don’t answer the question.

The correct answer is somewhere between answers 1 and 3.

He should be traded if we get good value for him – regardless of contending status.

Note that if we trade him, we need to sign a FA CF for 2010 (OH THE IRONY), or extend Winn (regardless of “should” this WILL NOT happen for Winn to play CF… if it was even conceivable by Giants BRASS! they’d never have signed Rowand in the first place).

I suppose “resign Andres Torres” is technically an answer in CF, but none of Lewis, Schierholtz, Timpner, or Mike McBryde are going to do it. Eugenio Velez?

Who is going to available? Coco Crisp (option year that won’t be picked up)? Rick Ankiel?

Man, just keep him and hope that he keeps hitting.

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by zenbitz on Jun 11, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs