Manny Ramirez: Understanding the Glee
by Grant on May 7, 2009 3:11 PM PDT
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If a first-time visitor were to come to the site and read the quickie Manny Ramirez thread, they might think, boy, what a bunch of bitter, craven Giants fans. That's only somewhat true. There's a part of us that's laughing at the misfortune of others, and it's just a little repugnant. Just a little. I'm not too worried about it.
But the real happiness when someone like Manny Ramirez gets pinched comes from this: When Barry Bonds was the biggest name in the steroid scandal, no one really understood why Giants fans were still cheering. Few understood why some Giants fans were adept at making such tortured arguments for Bonds's possible innocence.
With every one of these stories, there's just a little bit of "see! see!" attached. Yankees fans kind of get it. Now Dodgers fans kind of get it with Manny Ramirez suspended. Some people will never get it. Like, say,the guy in the Caminiti jersey giving Bonds an earful in San Diego, or the guy in the "'89 World Champs"-shirt complaining about the sanctity of the game. The Logic Fairy didn't have time to stop by and leave something under the pillow of those folks. Their loss.
That's why I want the stars to tumble. I want Ichiro! to be found in a dingy Ottawa HGH den. I want Dustin Pedroia to be arrested for munching on a greenie sandwich. I want every team's most popular player to go down. Then, maybe, people will say, hey, human nature makes people break rules in order to succeed, or make money, or live up to the expectations of their daddy, or impress Samantha Scootbottom from the second grade, or whatever. Maybe there isn't something with a specific region of the country, or one or two players. Maybe there's something wrong with humanity.
I don't have a solution for that last part. I'm just a bitter, craven human, myself. But I still feel comfortable flipping off the finger-waggers, and I still feel mostly okay with laughing at the misfortune of others in this instance
21-8*! LOLomgLOL. 21-8*! Check this out:
Tainted home wins record! Sanctity of the game! My son bought a Manny wig! My son! WHAT DO I TELL HIM NOW?
Dang, that feels good. It isn't the high road, and I realize that. But the high road's kind of a drag. The low road is filled with booze and scantily clad members of the gender that appeals to you. You know you kind of want to check it out. We'll save a seat.
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Yes, essentially this. Not just one more team that has to STFU re: BLB, but it’s the Dodgers and I am ok with rejoicing in their misfortune.
You think your a fan? You got nothing on my adopted daughter Sue Burns, now she's a fan. 4 out of 5 doctors agree Rosterbation can cause blindness and delusions of grandeur.
by igotnothing on May 7, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
let's make a pie out if that
It tastes delish.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow I get a margarita recipe and pie recipe in the same day. This IS the best day ever!
by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take the low road. Today I was having a crappy day, but I can safely say I’m doing better than Manny Ramirez. And that makes my day a lot better.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he is doing too badly
Sure, he’s disappointed that he let a lot of people down but he’s got tons of money and an easy life. Now he gets a two month vacation and gets to come back in time for the stretch run.
by positiveuphemism on May 7, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what i’ve read in the past, Manny has good work ethic so I doubt that he’ll be lounging around for the time being (I know that isn’t what you meant by “vacation”). I bet he comes back with a chip on his shoulder and plays as strong or stronger than he was up until today. I am just glad he’ll be outside looking in for the next 50 games.
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by Giant among Angels on May 7, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny a lousy, no good cheater AND Giants win on same day?!?!?
BEST DAY EVER!
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by Norm Median on May 7, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure whether to be scared, disturbed, or laughing my ass off…
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by raisingcain on May 7, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
D – all of the above
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by Johnny Disaster on May 7, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny, Team Destroyer from within....
HAHAHAHAH.! Please refer to my previous post about “Manny the Team Destroyer from Within!” "Heee’sssss BAAACCcccckkkk!!!!
by SF Bay Area on May 7, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Block out the feet
and he looks like a dancing faun, an ugly dancing faun. How sweet.
by westyny on May 7, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spent like 20 seconds staring at it.
by tony_flow on May 7, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Grant
You nailed it exactly.
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by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Another +1
Yes, well said.
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by achiappanza on May 7, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean to say I have been misinformed? Barry Bonds ISN’T the only player to have used PED’s in the history of baseball?
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by MonkeyChow on May 7, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Writing.
So good that I will turn my eye away from whatever substances you were hopped up on while composing it.
One question re: Samanthan Scootbottom
Got pics?
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 7, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t bring myself to ask.
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by igotnothing on May 7, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Samanthan?
Is that xanthan’s sister? I always wondered what xanthan’s last name was.
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by EliminateMe on May 7, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I am very happy with Burriss 2 for 5 today.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 7, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Our Manny will have more hits over the next 50 games than that other Manny!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 7, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burriss in the last 8 games:
.440/.517/.480
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by EliminateMe on May 7, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it bunted tot he left or right side? Was he batting RH or LH?
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by Giant among Angels on May 7, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
towards 3b do not know if batting RH or LF
by wilriv21 on May 7, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think it was lefty (either Marquis or Belisle on the mound), but I can’t be sure.
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by cornball on May 7, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was against Belisle, so presumably he was batting lefty.
His average vs RHP is still sub-Mendoza, but moving in the right direction – 7 for his last 21 from that side after starting the season 4 for 43.
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by EliminateMe on May 7, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOT BRIAN BOCOCK
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-rod makes the handoff.
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Notice Big Pappi in the background?
I’ve always suspected that guy…
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
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by thehavenot on May 7, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHY DO U THINK THEY CALL HIM BIG
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IT’S IRONIC BECAUSE HE HAS SMALL GENITALS BECAUSE OF STEROIDS RIGHT
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by groug on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caption
MANNY: “I bow to you king of steroids”
AROD: “AND EVERYONE THINKS IT’S REALLY BONDS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH”
BIG PAPPI: “Now let’s get back to destroying baseball.”
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
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by thehavenot on May 7, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good one!
Lets face it folks, the juice is still in the game….Look at how Manny Just took that suspension….GUILTY! in a BIG way….NOW Giants Fans can wave syinges at Manny the way theu did at Bonds….Oh couldn’t have happened at a better time to a nicer team AHAHHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAH.! Please refer to my previous post about “Manny the Team Destroyer from Within!” "Heee’sssss BAAACCcccckkkk!!!!
by SF Bay Area on May 7, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the “Heee’sssss BAAACCcccckkkk!!!!” commercial they play on TV here.
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by Giant among Angels on May 7, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
5/8/09 1:22 am..
Here’s hoping everybody shuts up just a little seeing as how he got popped for fertility drugs , not SPORTS PEDs.
Not that sex can’t be a sport , mind you…
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by victor frankenstein on May 8, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but the fertility drug he got popped for is used after a steroids cycle.
by Missing Barry on May 8, 2009 5:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS
time for people to stop saying that. If it really was something like that, he would have appealed. He didn’t even try.
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by bondslegend on May 8, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The boyfriend suggested that Manny and MLB met after his positive test and they basically talked him into accepting the suspension and not trying to appeal, as a massive CYA act. Moar conspiracies!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 8, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly...
the reaction at McC didn’t thrill me. I know almost all the posters here are not malicious and are mocking Manny partly in jest and partly light-hearted retaliation to the abuse suffered at the hands of dodgers fans but still… it just didn’t sit right with me. This news was not good for baseball and any news not good for baseball makes me unhappy :-(
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on May 7, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
/laughs at kenshin1
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of curiosity, what type of reaction did you expect?
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by marcello on May 7, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hoped...
that we would take the high road. I’m not shocked (or appalled for that matter) that we chose to laugh at the dodgers misfortune.
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on May 7, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair...
I think we reacted pretty much like you would have hoped we would when the news came out about A-Rod. There were a few laughs, but it was mostly “meh”. The overreaction to Manny probably lies mostly in him being a Dodger than anything else.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 7, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I think it’s more about a player on a rival team. Dodgers fans (along with A’s fans and Padres fans) are probably the biggest source of BARROID GINATS STERRRRRRRRROIDS talk. To perhaps shut them up makes us happy. I doubt you’ll see the same type of thing throughout the season.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
One of us went to TrueBlueLA and shat all over everybody.
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by victor frankenstein on May 8, 2009 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was sign posey, who also shits all over everybody here.
At least, he did before he got banned.
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by groug on May 8, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why should we take the high road?
Fuck those guys. They were a-holes about Barry, and even with our crazy thread, we’re nowhere near the level of vitriol they had for Bonds. I see no reason that we shouldn’t laugh when our largest rival loses their best player for 1/3 of the year.
If this happened to us when Barry was here, how would they have reacted? I submit it would have been a lot worse than ours.
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
this
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also...
think that this is a pretty exceptional fan community. I mean, despite my best efforts, this site has expanded and continues to have a great tone. So even at our worst we are still better than alot of other sites.
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on May 7, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say, even with all the craziness in that thread, it’s still not quite the same as the hatred the Dodgers fans had for Barry. It’s more like “lol Manny! lol Dodgers! Tommy LaSorda likes lasagna!” rather than “MANNY IS HITLER AND THE WORST HUMAN BEING IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME!”
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by jponry on May 7, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don’t recall any outright vilification of Manny. Just heaping Schadenfreude and lulz, is all.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCovey Chronicles: we’re just here for the lulz.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on May 7, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much this
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
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by thehavenot on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the schadenfreude does come out of some bitterness (bitterness that I think is totally legitimate too.)
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by jponry on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Often it is not the act – because we as people are forgiving – but it is the cover-up. Players that lie and say they didn’t use PEDs and are found out to have enhanced themselves are less likely to be forgiven.
by wilriv21 on May 7, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the the players who were caught lied about it. They stopped lying only after it was proven without they doubt that they did take drugs.
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by Cookyman on May 7, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please do not compare Andy Pettitte to the likes of Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, ARod etc when it comes to how the public reacts to the player.
by wilriv21 on May 7, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s OK that he did it.
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he was just very good and not the best.
I get it.
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by groug on May 7, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE WAS SORRY FOR IT :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on May 7, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by "it"
you mean “being caught”, then yes, he was. Because he didn’t actually come all the way clean the first time.
How that hypocritical god freak got off so easy I do not know
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
has anyone come out and apologized without having been caught first?
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 7, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jose Canseco came out before he was caught and extolled the virtues about steroids
by wilriv21 on May 7, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Canseco lied about it during his entire career, then made a ton of money writing about it, selling out his freinds and teammates. What a noble man.
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I hope.
by Cookyman on May 8, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
some of the guys Canseco ratted out were introduced to the drug by the man.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 8, 2009 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Side bar
Could you imagine having been an A’s farm hand in the 90’s and not having taken the needle? (If people think it was only the A’s I have some swamp land to sell them.) The rage that should induce is against baseball management and owners for rewarding that behavior is the only reason this topic should be mentioned now days. The rest is not even as redeeming as mental masturbation.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 8, 2009 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 8, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Manny took a 50 game suspension "No Problem" = GUILTY>>>>
HAHAHAHAH.! Please refer to my previous post about “Manny the Team Destroyer from Within!” "Heee’sssss BAAACCcccckkkk!!!!
by SF Bay Area on May 7, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please stop bringing this up
I’m going to now consciously avoid your post since you keep pimping it.
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Please stop
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on May 7, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
While it fits , hardly apropos
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by victor frankenstein on May 8, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
In the end, it still boils down to a good-natured fan rivalry, not the taking things too far, personal level bitterness that gets people shot in parking lots.
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by rightcenterfielder on May 7, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me thinks
there would have been a different reaction if Manny breaks a leg and goes on the 60 day DL. The facts that we’ve been beat over the head with how well the Dodgers are doing and that Manny brought this on himself, lend themselves to a bit of giddyness.
by bisquik on May 7, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
because everyone knows that Lasorda is Hitler and the worst human being in the history of the game.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 7, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just to add on to everyone too, but do you remember how much opponent’s fans made fun of Barry, the Giants,a nd Giants fans? I do.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a while I had to be prepared for a debate everytime someone asked me who my favorite team was.
by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still feel that way.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on May 7, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel that way every time I wear my Bonds jersey around Philly…
Our joy in Manny’s suspension comes from so many levels. First, Dodgers, F the Dodgers. Second, F the Dodgers in first place. Third, F the Dodgers and their home winning record. Fourth, F Dodger fans. Fifth, maybe we’re competetive in the division now. Sixth, so much sweet justification for all the shit we’ve taken for Bonds over the years. We knew the whole time we were in the right, but there was just such an onslaught to crucify Bonds and all his fans for so long….it just feels so good to be right after all that. And one more personal thing – a lot of the shit I took came from Red Sox fans…so F them, too.
As for Manny, other than playing for the Dodgers I kind of like Manny – he works his ass off, produces, and gets unfairly portrayed by the media for not running out a ground ball or trying as hard as possible in the outfield. Whatever, dude is still good as shit. I’m still so happy about this suspension, though. Remember when Bonds was suspended for steroids? Oh yeah…
by Missing Barry on May 8, 2009 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and is bit of a Goof. But he chose to be a Sith Bum so his on field hart ache is what is properand good in the world.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 8, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, legitimate bitterness.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on May 7, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. I had a similiar reaction to Rodriguez’s failed test fiasco. I stressed that those stupidasses talking shit about Bonds couldn’t say one thing about him anymore. That’s really what I’m about; sticking it to those people who need a big cup of STFU. As for Manny, I still don’t like him, but am I happy or pleased he fucked himself over? Not particularly.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ARod one was more, “Thank God there is another whipping boy.” This one just has the added thrill.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS THIS THIS THIS
Barry had NEEDLES thrown on the field while playing. Some homer posting on our Giants related site is nothing compared to some of the crap Bonds was getting.
We have actually been pretty nice. Here you can tell that its just Giants fans being happy at the situation. For the most part.
by scout6 on May 7, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember needles at the park for Barry in Dodger Gully!
So THERE! PppppHHHHHH! Dodger fans going to throw needles at Manny? I sure hope someone does at Pac Bell! We remember too well how they boooed Bonds and had signs. Look out Mr. Manny! You are about to become a lightening rod for SF Dodger Signage and booing!
HAHAHAHAH.! Please refer to my previous post about “Manny the Team Destroyer from Within!” "Heee’sssss BAAACCcccckkkk!!!!
by SF Bay Area on May 7, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, perhaps I could have just said “+1.”
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that, and those of us who never wanted the Manny-show in SF are feeling a bit vindicated as well.
by Merope on May 7, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little bit for me, too. I was more adamant about his lack of defense, but I can claim a place on this side.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first green post!
[proud]
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by bondslegend on May 8, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for me, it boiled down to this...
1) Ignorant people are starting to see that Barry was not the only one using.
2) The Giants now have a much, much better chance at winning the division.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on May 7, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
3) The Dodgers got screwed
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/ out of the shoe phone
“Well done Agent Ned. Now start work on a panic trade.”
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 7, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Manny agreed with that one.
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by rightcenterfielder on May 7, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO ONE said Bonds was the only one using
they said he was the best one using; That is why the story was on him.
by wilriv21 on May 7, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. The earful I commonly get implies that he was the only one, and I personally knew otherwise.
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by igotnothing on May 7, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, on multiple occasions I was lectured by A’S FANS about OMG HOW CAN YOU ROOT FOR A CHEATER EVERYTHING YOUR TEAM HAS EVER DONE IS WORTHLESS. By A’S FANS. I mean, geez.
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by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at an A’s/Giants game at the Coliseum (Jerome Williams’ first ML win, no less) getting food with a friend, and this fat woman in an A’s jacket comes up to me and said, “Barry does steroids.” Just like that. I was buying fish and chips for fuck’s sake and I’d said nothing to this woman or anyone else other than “yes I’d like malt vinegar.”
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was 2003
A different time. Really the first year that anything was being said about Bonds and the juice, and most Giants fans were well-rehearsed in covering their eyes and ears. I don’t know why that lady said that, but I understand the context of the time vs. how it sounds now.
by ho-hum baby on May 7, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s an example of all the shit-talking we’ve dealt with as Giants fans. An unprovoked comment like that at me, when all I did was show up at a baseball stadium to support a team I like. I’m an asshole, I guess.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
a lack of knowledge of her own team’s past
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s the thing. I don’t know if Giants fans did the head in the sand act when the rumors started swirling around Bonds. I sure didn’t. Padres fans and A’s fans who make retarded comments about the situation exhibit head-in-the-sand behavior, and it’s boggling how they can make such statements.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought
yeah, he probably cheated, but so did every single guy who was pitching to him. And he was so much better than anyone else that it never really mattered to me- once a guy’s one of the best ever, I guess how much best ever just doesn’t really matter to me that much
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She was stupid and probably still is — as is anyone who walks up and makes unprovoked comments in your personal space.
by ho-hum baby on May 7, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
people are assholes.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 7, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny.
I’ve seen a lot of assholes , and they look nothing like you.
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by victor frankenstein on May 8, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fish and Chips @ the Coliseum?
Can we get some of that on our side of the bay?
by bonbrillio on May 7, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one of the garlic fry places used to do garlic fries and fish – not the one on the view level though.
Well okay, they had it last year, when we at the park this year they didn’t have it at the garlic fry place on the view level, whether they still have it at the other location I dunno.
by Merope on May 7, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think it was an easy way for other fans to talk shit about someone they already didn’t like all the while hoping that nobody from thier team gets outed.
by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JC Romero – Who? was suspended earlier this season and nobody knows about it. Why cuz he is a nobody. Ramirez gets suspended and he gets the news – Why? cuz he is the best one.
by wilriv21 on May 7, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JC Romero? Never heard about this.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it happened in January
not a lot of people really focusing on baseball then.
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by Viliphied on May 7, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can list a lot of obscure players who’ve been suspended for steroids if you want, and I haven’t even followed the story particularly carefully.
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by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I was contradicting you.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you hate it when you contradict a guy and he agrees with you?
by Evan on May 7, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
I mean…no!
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by EliminateMe on May 7, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like the handful of guys in the minors who get nailed every year?
Including Kelvin Pichardo?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eliezer Alfonzo!
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by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well yeah partly that
if it had been Manny or Pujols it would have gotten more play, but still it would have gotten more attention if it happened when more people were actually following baseball.
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by Viliphied on May 7, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually he had his closed-door meetings with MLB about the failed test at the end of the NLCS and before the World Series. I believe they determined he would be suspended in the 2009 season at that meeting.
He pitched pretty damn well with that hanging over his head I must admit
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 7, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GNC = drug dealers, according to JC.
by ho-hum baby on May 7, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A friend works at GNC in Tracy, CA
Says a dude came in once and asked, in a roundabout fashion, if they carry anabolic steroids.
She also met MC Hammer in her store.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got the 50 game suspension for using a supplement which contained a banned substance. He was pretty angry and vehemently denied any wrongdoing. He pitched for Puerto Rico in the WBC but hasn’t been heard from since.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they mentioned he was suing GNC on KNBR this morning when they were talking about Manny.
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by Viliphied on May 7, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romero sued the manufacturer of the supplement and GNC. the supplement apparently did not include the banned substance on its list of ingredients and the GNC employees sold it to him at separate locations with the understanding that the supplement contained no banned substances.
but MLB’s policy is strict liability: test positive = suspension.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 7, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
May Manny go to Puerto Rico and never come back....
Please make sure that Manny’s Guaranteed money from the Dodgers check has cleared for this year has it not?
Vacation!
by SF Bay Area on May 7, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it was Juan Pierre, Blake DeWItt or some other chancleta this would be a one day story but since it is about one of the best players in the game it is a HUGE story
by wilriv21 on May 7, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they may not have come out and said it
but all their words and actions sure implied it.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on May 7, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then there’s also the category of people who realized that lots of players were involved, but only CARED that Bonds did because, as wil said, Barry was the best player involved. I understand that makes him a bigger story, but I don’t think it’s fair that people should be more personally outraged over Barry than over, say, Alex Sanchez. Cheating does not become more or less immoral because you’re good at what you’re cheating at.
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by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could even make the argument that Alex Sanchez cheating is worse than Bonds. Bonds would have been in the big leagues without roids. With Sanchez, who knows?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 7, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez wasn’t good enough with steroids.
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by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I forgot he ever existed.
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’M GOING TO TRY AND BUNT THIS ONE! AND THE NEXT ONE! AND THE NEXT ONE! AND THE NEXT….
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still played 5 seasons in the big leagues instead of a guy like Mike Frank for example. 5 seaons, 6 home runs. LOL.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 7, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other thing, for me
Is that most people assumed Bonds was guilty long before evidence against him became public. But when other stars, from Rafael Palmeiro to Mark McGwire to Alex Rodriguez, get found out, everyone is “shocked.”
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonds had the misfortune of being the best player in the game (ever) and also being the most hated player in the game (maybe ever) by the media and opposing fans, and this was all before there was any speculation about possible drug use. When he got caught up in the Balco stuff, it was the perfect storm for media/fan hatred of a single player ever.
I mean, McGwire had the stuff in his locker when he was chasing Maris and no one said crap because he was a nice guy. Bonds didn’t have a sycophant media to cover up for him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 7, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
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by Giant among Angels on May 7, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me, this is more about (a) NOW THEY KNOW HOW IT FEELS and (b) LOL JUAN PIERRE, STARTING LF. But I kind of understand how you feel.
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by jponry on May 7, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
I have had similar thoughts. All the same, I would prefer that there never was another major star caught using PEDs.
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on May 7, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about if Juan Pierre was caught using PEDs?
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Sanchez and Marvin Benard didn’t stop ’em.
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by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colletti would do his best to void the deal
by wilriv21 on May 7, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would explode from laughter
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
by CB30 on May 7, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Clean up on aisle CB 30!!”
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 7, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason I’m happy is that we now have a better chance to make the playoffs. I don’t dislike Ramirez, and I don’t care what other teams’ fans think about Bonds or steroids or whatever. Bad thing for baseball? Yeah, I guess, but it’s pretty clear that steroids were everywhere, so I don’t think that one all-star more really makes a differnce by now.
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by Cookyman on May 7, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
your satisfaction...
will diminish now that Sabean will trade Alderson for a middling improvement (probably a CFer). After all, we are in the race now!
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on May 7, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe. But today we are kings!
Completely OT: Your capitalization pattern fascinates me. I get people not capitalizing out of laziness, but you seem to mainly capitalize names, with an occasional first word in sentence.
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by Cookyman on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh god...
here comes a mccovey grammar discussion.
I also insist in doing the double space after the period. I enjoy my inconsistencies.
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on May 7, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh...
despite the fact that I failed to double space before the last sentance ;-)
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on May 7, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a fan of a single space after the end of a sentence. A double space just looks too um, detached to me
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The double...
space properly denotes a completed thought.
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on May 7, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when do we ever complete thoughts here?
Anyway, it’s a purely aesthetic preference on my part.
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double spaces went out with typewriters. Modern typesetting is meant to work with one space, and HTML is one space automatically. Just saying.
by ho-hum baby on May 7, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people still do double spaces, though.
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by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just used to it. I’ve never used a typewriter, although my first printer was a dot matrix which would have been the same type of typeset. Even in school when you’re writing I was told to leave twice as much space between sentences as words.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they're all RIGHT HERE!
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by victor frankenstein on May 8, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HTML is one space automatically.
Or is it?
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by bgunn on May 7, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was taught typing in the seventh grade on a computer
I was taught the double space
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by thehavenot on May 7, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The double space is a product of the typewriter days. We don’t really need it anymore.
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whippersnappers! All of you.
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by ResDog on May 7, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jus’ typing it… old school!
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by achiappanza on May 7, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOOOOOOOO
A single space after a period just looks strange, and it always bothers me when my double spaces are auto-reduced to a single space. Like now.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 7, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I, The Worst Offender of Grammar Rules and Policies here, actually agree with this. It’s a same reason a lot of us use the blank line between paragraphs instead of just an indentation to start a new paragraph. The double space after a period just makes it clear there is meant to be a period and not a typo replacement for a comma.
Of course just because I agree does not mean I successfully implement but that’s another topic.
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by daveinexile on May 8, 2009 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The double space after a period just makes it clear there is meant to be a period and not a typo replacement for a comma.
That’s like writing “pooop” instead of “poop”, just to make it clear that you didn’t mean “pop”.
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by Cookyman on May 8, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
the double space makes no sense.
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by bondslegend on May 8, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can set microsoft word to tell you you’re making a grammar mistake if you don’t double space after periods. The point is, it has an accepted place in writing. It also looks better.
by Missing Barry on May 8, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
because things made my MICROSOFT are always accurate and reliable kids (joke joke).
To each their own, but I just don’t get it myself. I like just having to push the spacebar once.
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by bondslegend on May 8, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I love about m$ ? Every few years I get a child in my class named “May” or “June” or “April” and everytime I go to enter that kid’s name into a class database… m$ feels compelled to change it into a date. It doesn’t matter how many times I tell it the data is “text” not “date” it doesn’t care, little June is always 06/01/2009.
by Merope on May 8, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never used numbers (Apple's version of excel)
but i bet IT doesn’t do that.
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by bondslegend on May 8, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a big Microsoft fan, but I hate when people use “M$”.
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by Natto on May 8, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. As if Apple products are not more expensive.
by Lars The Wanderer on May 8, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
that perception ALWAYS makes me laugh. I’m not a fan of microsoft, but if I didnt already have a mac there’s no freaking way i could afford one right now.
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by bondslegend on May 8, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the first time I do not make sense or am way out beyond left field.
.Part of it is probably the way I was taught to read. Assume very little and beware that of more than one way a given sentence could be meant. Then narrow down the meanings as other sentences are grouped with it. Don’t put much weight on any assumption (plan for failure) then rinse, wash, repeat.
If one is not doing those things one is probably are not critically reading. If you are not critical then one is probably not really reading. But then that’s just me.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 8, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah a segway (spelling?) Favorite day on McC ever: It was either the day the BLB indictment came out or the Mitchell Report, we discussed grammar, only grammar.
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by igotnothing on May 7, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s segue.
I bring this up only to tell the funny story of how, for years, my wife thought that the word “segue” was pronounced “seeg,” like it rhymed with league.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whenever I see something like this, I think of the time I saw someone referred to as a “Pre-Madonna”
by Merope on May 7, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was it until probably around 2-3 years ago.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that on error on television closed-captioning once
All I could think of was how confusing that would be for hearing-impaired viewers. Unless they had already seen it hundreds of times and knew it meant “prima donna.”
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on May 7, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, closed captioning can come up with some doozies.
by Merope on May 7, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random closed captioning anecdote
I have a friend who types over 100 wpm who for a long time did the captions for live broadcasts on ITV in England. He basically got paid to close caption soccer matches, which he lived for anyway—huge Arsenal fan.
He was doing the 1998 World Cup final, and France had several players from Arsenal (Thierry Henry and one or two others I can’t remember). The announcer says at the end of the match, “What a great day for France!” The closed captioning read, “What a great day for France and Arsenal!” He got free drinks at the pub for a couple days.
by Duelling Brandos on May 8, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A few months ago I found out that “pseudo” is pronounced sudo, and not psoo-eh-do. My way was better.
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I hope.
by Cookyman on May 7, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s sort of like that in Japanese.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 7, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pince-nez scared me for years. I had an irrational fear of being forced to pronounce it one day.
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by igotnothing on May 7, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a tendency to pronounce “paradigm” as par-rah-dig-um though I think that’s more us making fun of people who like to use corporate speak.
I once met someone who pronounced URL “earl.”
by Merope on May 7, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I once had to use the word "paradigmatic," which was tricky for a few long seconds
I said “pair-uh-dig-matic” and immediately regretted it. Took awhile for audience to ketchup.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on May 7, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why regrets?
“pahr-uh-dig-MATic” is right. why regrets?
by campanari on May 7, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
because it took the audience a few moments to synch. Dead air isn't good when speaking.
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by Mayor of 311 on May 7, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I was a kid I thought ‘genre’ was pronounced like the first two syllables of generic.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when I was younger I remember reading a book and trying to figure out what this ren-dez-vuss place was that the characters kept meeting at.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 7, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It bothers me that no one remembers “googol” anymore.
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know googol.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 zeroes!
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by groug on May 7, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Faith in humanity restored!
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about a googol plex?
Carl sagan FTW
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was 100 zeroes.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 7, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it is.
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just checked and you’re right.
DAMN YOU, PLAYGROUND WHERE I LEARNED THAT
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by groug on May 7, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a googolplex is googol squared, right?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are the same thing. It’s just that a google is a shorter way of saying it.
by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually really tried to type ‘googal’ there. By brain/hands have been trained.
by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the more I type the more I fail…googol googol googol googol googol googol…I think I’m getting it now
by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Googolplex is 10 to the power of one googol.
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by Natto on May 7, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
owe Natto a coke
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on May 7, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ye gods
google is 10^100 power (1 with 100 zeroes)
google plex is 10^googolth power (10^10^100). (1 with one google zeroes)
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on May 7, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember hearing that for the first time when I was a kid watching Cosmos. Googolplex or some such thing.
by Merope on May 7, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
he showed how many zeroes it was and I was all “whoah”
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anybody has kids, the book “How Much is a Million” by Steven Kellogg provides one of those “oh wow” math moments for the younger set (6-9 years oldish).
by Merope on May 7, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when that guy tried to cheat in the British Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? The million pound question was “a number 1 followed by 100 zeros is known by what name?”. I think it was the only answer I knew in that whole episode.
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I hope.
by Cookyman on May 8, 2009 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how did he try to cheat?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 8, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had his wife and a guy in the stands cough whenever the correct answer was read. Apparently he was supposed to quit after 125,000 or something, but got greedy and went all the way. Then after he won some people heard him and his wife arguing behind the scenes. They got suspicious and told the producers, who rewatched the tape and noticed the coughing. I was in London when he was convicted, and they showed the episode again. He still claims he’s innocent, though.
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I hope.
by Cookyman on May 9, 2009 4:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a moron
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by bondslegend on May 9, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a kid, I learned the word 'awesome' from comics
I pronounced it “a-WEE-sum”, to the general amusement of my family.
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by EliminateMe on May 7, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s how I’m pronouncing it from now on. a-WEE-sum!
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 7, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when I was a kid
I thought there were two words:
Unique and “Unikwee”
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on May 7, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on May 7, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the greatest thing ever
On the run from Johnny Law, aint no trip to Cleveland, or San Francisco.
by PAWarrior on May 7, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve always been a double space. That’s how I was brought up and I’ve never stopped doing it. I know SBN takes them out, but I just automatically add them in. Also you can get like, an extra line out of a 5 page report if you double space it.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s how I roll too. Represent!
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by groug on May 7, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was always a fan of tweaking the margins to get more pages.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think around >1.15" the teachers start to notice.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like them too
they closely match mine.
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by Viliphied on May 7, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This from a guy who spells cookie with a y.
by Evan on May 7, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I used to spell it coockieman in the old McC. Not that it’s any better.
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I hope.
by Cookyman on May 7, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See?
Even if we’re talking about Manny it’s still more important to us to talk about grammar.
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by WalrusMan on May 7, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was grammar talk in the first Manny thread too
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by Viliphied on May 7, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. We’re all SNOOTs. DFW would be proud.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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by cornball on May 7, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 7, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. All the facts aren't out yet and if it's a stupid policy, then it's a stupid policy.
I hate the dodgers as much as any 1.5 of you, and I root for stomach flu and STDs to sweep through their clubhouse every series. But if Manny wasn’t taking anything that can really enhance baseball performance, then imposing this penalty is stupid. Humiliating citizens at the airport security continues to be a brainless reaction to ONE event 7 years ago. Stupid policies get instituted as overreactions to fairly manageable problems. And it is worth noting his claim that he has passed 15 drug tests in the last 5 years— a claim that is easily falsifiable if untrue. If he is taking Junk Helper™ and a constituent ingredient of that showed up (like an amphetamine) then this is a stupid penalty. If he was taking something that could conceivably help him, that’s different, and throw the book at him.
And if he was taking a “masking agent,” then I would still like to see some evidence that he was taking whatever that agent is supposed to mask. HGH doesn’t show up in chem tests, but it CAN be traced detective-like through receipts, chain of custody, etc. MLB has great investigative resources.
I cheer for dodger misfortune, of course. These are the breaks, and I’m happy the dodgers get a bad one and we get a good one (assuming we can do something with it).
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by Mayor of 311 on May 7, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB’s drug policy is dumb and overbroad, especially considering it is hotly disputed that any of these drugs improve player performance one iota. But those are the rules right now, love ‘em or hate ’em, and Manny got caught. he’s a Dodger, so fuck him and fuck Dodger fans.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 7, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
On the MLB level the policy is pretty much a CYA the owners arse. I am not well versed enough on the MiLB policy to offer an opinion there. Hopefully the MiLB is a bit better about noticing if dramatically more positives occur in certain franchises or not. If the competition in the minors is kept mostly level then over time the "old" way will just die out.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 8, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talk to any
bodybuilder, weightlifter, powerlifter, or anyone with any experience in the iron sports. HCG is a well known, and often used, PED. It is actually a surprise that MLB only added HCG to the banned list this season.
Now, it might be the case that Manny was using HCG due to legitimate problems with his hormonal system. That does not mean that HCG should not be on the banned list.
Pretty much the only excuse for Manny, is that his doctor was consulting an outdated copy of the banned list.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on May 8, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB’s drug policy is dumb and overbroad, especially considering it is hotly disputed that any of these drugs improve player performance one iota.
exactly, this is the real “taking the high road” approach
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on May 8, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suspend a player essentially for steroids if you catch them using a product that masks steroids, or a product related to steroids. Manny got caught for something there doesn’t seem to be a reasonable explanation for him taking unless he was also taking steroids.
by Missing Barry on May 8, 2009 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point of taking masking agents
such as various types of diuretics, is that they allow you to pass tests. Diuretics for example, flush traces of various substances out of your system.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on May 8, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and here I thought they just made ya pee a lot.
by Merope on May 8, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m laughing because this guy (a) got caught in LA and (b) FUCKING QUIT ON MY OTHER TEAM.
by SFGuy on May 7, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This news was not good for baseball and any news not good for baseball makes me unhappy :-(
oh please, let’s not start that crap now – part what makes good Giants fans is our total and complete libertarian outlook on the whole steriods issue – I absolutely refuse to buy into the hysterical (and/or self-righteously sad) elitist media propaganda bullshit about the steroids era destroying, or even hurting, the game of baseball.
What has happened to Manny is absolutely hilarious because it hurts the Dodgers. Minus 50 games, minus the HRs, RBIs, Rs, and better pitches seen by half of their batting order, and therefore minus won games is absolutely great news for any Giants fan.
The sweet irony of it is that many Dodger fans have led the crying, whining, and complaining about steroids in baseball for years. Now they can see their best player being victimized by the whole deal that they helped contribute to. I wouldn’t have suspended Manny myself. I mean, fuck, there isn’t even any evidence yet that the banned substance he took wasn’t just haphazardly included in some medicine or something that he should have been more careful about. And even if he had taken steroids I wouldn’t have cared.
“Taking the High Road” here can include all the laughing and exulting at the plight of the Dodgers that we want, but what it actually means is that we should not lower ourselves to suddenly parroting all the douchey anti-steroids bullshit and pointing our fingers at Manny as if he did something wrong. Screw that. The Dodgers are finally getting screwed by this whole “steroids are suddenly culturally taboo” thing we’ve got in baseball now thanks to the media (how many banned substances are on the list now anyway, geeze. If I was a baseball player, I’d be afraid to take any drugs period) – and THAT is what’s funny.
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on May 8, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
this
sums up my view pretty much
Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.
by rightcenterfielder on May 8, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Taking the High Road" here can include all the laughing and exulting at the plight of the Dodgers that we want, but what it actually means is that we should not lower ourselves to suddenly parroting all the douchey anti-steroids bullshit and pointing our fingers at Manny as if he did something wrong. Screw that
I think I am in love…
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 8, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You rule Grant
very well said
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A few years ago, I got into an argument with an A’s fan about Barry, and pointed out that nearly every one of their biggest hitters of the last 20 years – Canseco, McGwire, Giami, Tejada – is known to have been on steroids.
“They’re not even on the A’s anymore, you moron!” was his answer.
So, apparently once the player leaves your team, your team’s accomplishments are no longer “tainted.” I’m sure he’d feel differently about that now that Bonds isn’t a Giant, though.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on May 7, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
money takes the high road
"It’s a very, very sad day for baseball," Molina said. "I won’t judge Manny. I’m sure he’s pretty bummed. It’s a sad day, and not just for baseball, but for the man. Manny is a good guy."
"You ask for game winning hits, I give you Eugenio Velez"
by The Gene Hackman on May 7, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Classy money
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on May 7, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody loves money
Money loves everybody
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
by CB30 on May 7, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody Loves Money...
that’s why they call it money.
— David Mamet
"You ask for game winning hits, I give you Eugenio Velez"
by The Gene Hackman on May 7, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and 1
‘Heist’ is a good little movie.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on May 7, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs