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Trick question: There is no good in the Dodgers. Their hearts are black; the souls of fans and players alike are corroded and crumbling, carried granule by granule away by a dark, howling wind to parts unknown and unspeakable. It’s a bad situation all around.

Asked a different way: How talented are the Dodgers? Dave Cameron thinks they have the division wrapped up. Obviously, he’s freebasing hyperbole to make a stronger argument, but he's pretty convinced.

I still think that the Dodgers rotation will hurt them. Billingsley's pretty fantastic, but counting on Randy Wolf is like counting on Chris Snelling or Cliff Floyd. And while Kershaw is a pretty special talent, it's tough to expect any 21-year-old to be a 200-innings kind of rotation cog.

I also think that Russell Martin, James Loney, and Rafael Furcal can be a lot better than they've been so far. So even if the rotation does falter, they could still win quite a few games.

I can't really argue with Cameron's article. I’ve never been a fan of that particular argument, though I can’t quite put my finger on why. You usually read it closer to the playoffs, and I understand the concept: You have a known quantity (the Dodgers are 20-8), so you want to take that into account when predicting the rest of the season. It just feels…icky. Again, I don’t know why. Maybe because it’s not what I want to read? Yeah, that’s probably why.

It's too early to worry about All-Star ballots, much less a team running away with the division. I just wanted to know what y'all thought about the FanGraphs article linked to in the title of this post.

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Grey background is grey. I should have just made this a regular post, sorry.

by Grant Brisbee on May 6, 2009 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

he was last seen ina grey Olds-ma-Buick.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

fine, they win the West, then are quickly dispatched in the 1st round of the playoffs. Joke’s on them.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 6, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I could deal with a return of the Phillie Phanatic/Lasorda gif.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on May 6, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about more tumbling Lasorda?

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on May 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  


or perhaps some bad taste

Tommy Lasorda HATES GIANTSBOARD.COM
Cut and Pasted Blog redundancy can be a good thing
Say Hey! Say Who? Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!

by merkin on May 6, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

SWOOP

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on May 6, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

This picture still has the power to make me almost as happy as a Giants win.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on May 6, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

so very true.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Winged Rat. Have a bit of hot dog.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember being consoled by this very joke back in 1988.

by Evan on May 6, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

/tries to read post
//hears(sees) Charlie Browns teachers voice

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

As TheTempestTeapot Turns...

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on May 6, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOO!!!

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on May 6, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

In recent years, winning the west isn’t really something worth bragging about. Back when the Giants won the division, it meant something.

/embittered crank

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 6, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

That year when they lead wire to wire was something special

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wild Cards seem to do better.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 6, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Living in Philly has taught me that a 7ish game lead with 20 games to play means nothing! LOL…METS+DODGERS=EPIC FAIL

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Living in Philly has taught me….well, nothing.

by Missing Barry on May 6, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the season ended now, the first round of the playoffs would be the Blue Jays vs. the Mariners, the Royals vs. the Red Sox, the Dodgers vs. the Marlins or Brewers, and the Cardinals vs. the Phillies.

I think it’s fair to say some of those might not be set in stone yet.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 6, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Blue jays look legit

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 6, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Greinke 32-0 ERA 0.57. K 3 bazillion

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 6, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

reply fail

should be to jcb9.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 6, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s funny, though; they haven’t played the Yankees, Red Sox, or Rays yet. In fact, they don’t play the Rays until the end of June — nearly three months into the season before you first meet a division rival?

by non sequitur on May 6, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting point, didn’t know that…I really don’t think the Jays have a shot at finishing anywhere above 3rd in that division. Boston is always there, Tampa is better than this, and like it or not, the Yankees will be there. O’s aren’t too shabby, either.

by InTimmyWeTrust on May 6, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right know The Bums are who we thought they would be then at the top of the talent. There is no missing Furcal, no injured/distracted Manny, and the questionable rotation is fresh because it the first of the year and because off the evenly spaced days off.

To my mind they will need to pick up at least 1-2 worthwhile arms without injuring their young core to badly.Good luck with that.
/Cackles

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

The dodger love fest is making me sick

I can’t wait until we play them this weekend

by superk1ng on May 6, 2009 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

what are the match ups? I am to lazy to figure it out right now.
Will that pitcher be back from the DL(Kurodo?)?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zito – Billingsley
Sanchez – Stults
Lincecum – Weaver/Mcdonald

by superk1ng on May 6, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read this as Sanchez -- Sluts

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 6, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is not called Dirty for notin’

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The white suit and shoes are a big clue

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on May 6, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a brief scene in the film Sugar

Where two Dominican ballplayers go shopping for suits at the department store. The younger one picks out a white suit and is all smiles when he’s trying it on. I LOL’d.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 6, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot to go see Sugar! Crap! Wonder if it’s still playing.

How was it?

by Evan on May 6, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s still playing in the Least Bay, but it might be running in SF still. The film is excellent, but sad. It’s like the anti-Rocky. I appreciate that, because I’m tired of sports movies where the underdog always wins and good beats evil and all that crap. I love the film for being realistic and daring to show what happens to the Dominican kids who don’t make it. And it features a lovely Spanish language version of the Leonard Cohen song Hallelujah.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 6, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it has something in common with Watchmen, then. Just as I suspected.

I’m in New York, and it’s still playing here … will try to go this weekend.

by Evan on May 6, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

was showing at Elmwood as of last week

it was so. fucking. good.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 6, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck the pitching matchups.

Our offense v. the world...“Better Not Tell You Now”

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on May 6, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot too! I’ll put “Sugar” on my work calendar for next week. That won’t look peculiar at all.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on May 6, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Playing 3 in LA directly after Coors during the middle of an 18 day streak will be no picnic. If the Giants come home with say a 3 for 7 road trip (one win in LA) and mostly in tact I’ll be satisfied.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The safe money is on the West being decided already, but I’m not really interested in thinking that now.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

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by marcello on May 6, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Eff the Dodgers

That’s about all I have to say about that.

Except that now I hope that any other team wins the division just because of this guy’s article. Although you can’t argue with this logic: The D’backs went 20-7 to start the season last year and didn’t win the division, so obviously this means that the 20-8 Dodgers will.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on May 6, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

This is what I like to call the Tom Verducci Effect of Writing. This happens when someone writes something so arrogant that you wish and pull for anything to prove him wrong.
I would even hope for a dodger starter to do well just to prove Verducci’s theorem wrong…

O.K. that might be pushing

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

D’backs had a 5.5 game lead, over a pretty good team. The Dodgers have a 6.5 game lead over the Giants, a team not likely to finish over .500. The Diamondbacks were expected to give the Dodgers a real good fight, but they’re 8.5 back, and their best player is injured. Obviously nothing is over, but things are looking very bad.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!

I hope.

by Cookyman on May 7, 2009 2:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers have already won the division
Anvil’s stats are terrible
Crawford’s hot start is not for real

You guys are bumming me out today

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on May 6, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait, who said Anvil’s stats were terrible?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 6, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/5/5/866529/deadline-trade#15338507

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by Viliphied on May 6, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do I even need to read the link to accurately say that’s a load of bullshit?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 6, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, I haven’t really read that fanpost.

Evan practically declared Villalona a non-prospect over the offseason (as I recall, he predicted he would be Wily Mo Pena AT BEST!!!!!!!), so I think it’s fair to say his views on our AnVil are…outside the norm.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 6, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wily No Pena

I had a saddening though about AnVil at a SJ game recently, wondering if the team would trade him. At first I told myself no, because why would the Giants make such a sizeable investment not just in moneys but in working with him and his development? But then I said yes, because nobody’s immune to it. The moneys didn’t mean a diddlyscrew in the Pena situation.

So I was sad. I went from Angel Villalona, future superstar to Wily Mo Pena, bust in less than four moves.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 6, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do say dumb things with regularity, but I’m pretty sure I never said that.

For the record, I think Anvil is a very good prospect, has tons of talent, I’m glad he’s in our organization rather than somebody else’s — but I don’t think he’s on track. He has plenty of time to become a star, but he’s going to have to come from behind to do it.

by Evan on May 6, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t find the comment now, so maybe I’m misremembering, but my recollection was that you said that almost nobody had a K/BB rate as bad as Villalona’s in A and went on to become a star, and that Villalona’s future probably had more in common with Wily Mo Pena than Miguel Cabrera.

Maybe it was someone else, though.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 6, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s definitely something I would say—I just wouldn’t put it so firmly. Anything we can say about an 18-yr-old with Angel’s skills is going to be a shot in the dark. But I do dissent from the viewpoint that he’s doing great and just needs time.

by Evan on May 6, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s been a couple of days since I’ve checked, but I was under the impression that he was striking out less. Still not walking. Still with a poor K/BB ratio. But the fewer strikeouts has got to be encouraging, right?

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on May 6, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, yes it does. A low walk-rate would seem to temper his likelihood of reaching his upside, but it is still encouraging that he’s King less at a higher level.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 6, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

but my recollection was that you said that almost nobody had a K/BB rate as bad as Villalona’s in A and went on to become a star

That’s not really an opinion, it’s just a fact.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!

I hope.

by Cookyman on May 7, 2009 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the O-Dog keeps outpacing Renteria’s OPS by 200+ points, it’s not only over, but the Giants are 200x stupid for signing the wrong FA.

by ho-hum baby on May 6, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

not this again..still…

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the award for worst nickname ever, goes to…(drum roll)…. O-Dog

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arguably worse than first-initial-then-first-three-letters-of-last-name. Both are terrible and unimaginative.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on May 6, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do like k-rod.
Also imagine the headlines with A-Rod

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like K-Rod gets a pass, as that really isn’t his first initial, and because he got the nickname seven years ago.

And K-Rod is actually descriptive. O-Dog, A-Rod, J-Roll, etc tell us nothing about the player.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on May 6, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anvil, on the other hand, is awesome.

by Natto on May 6, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well he’s got TWO letters from his first name in his nickname.

Completely different!

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by groug on May 6, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I call him FROD (fraud)

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 6, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was reserved for Felix.

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by groug on May 6, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

DUCK THE FODGERS

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Of course, they’ve got to be the favorites, at this point, but I think it’s a stretch to say they’ve got it completely locked up. In early may, when there are still five months for catastrophic injuries, etc. it’s just too early to make claims like that. Billingsley and Manny could be involved in a tragic moped accident tomorrow and the Bums’ season could be over. Of course, this kind of thing could happen to any team, but that’s the point. It’s just too early and we don’t know.

In terms of Giants-Dodgers… well, they’ve got a 5 game lead. The Giants hitting, I think, will get a bit better (I just don’t think Winn is going to fall completely off the cliff offensively and either 2b improves or Frandsen is called up to improve it) and the Dodgers’ pitching could get worse. If it was even money, of course I’d bet on the Dodgers to win the division at this point (except that it would crush my soul to do so). But in no way do I think it’s fair to say the division is locked up. If they stretch their lead to 10-ish games, we can talk. If everything’s still trending this way at the All-Star break, we can talk. On May 6th? Too early.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on May 6, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

SUCK IT RUSSELL MARTIN

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on May 6, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

this

x a bunch.

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on May 6, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

This post makes me sad

because I had a lot of the same thoughts yesterday and was trying to talk myself out of it. This part especially hurt,

At 20-8, they could play .500 ball the rest of the year and finish with 87 wins. The Giants would have to play .548 baseball (75-62) to finish with 88 wins and nip LA by a game… And that’s assuming that the LA falls apart and plays .500 baseball the rest of the year.

…I guess that could happen

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by j14 on May 6, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Actually the team I could see going on run is the D Backs. They keep things together tell the line up clicks and Webb returns. 9 of the DBack – Bums games are after Aug 13. Plenty of time to get things together as long as they hang around 500.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like the D-bags have a serious run in them, especially if Webb gets healthy. If that line-up gets hot – and with Webb and Haren, they could be scary for a month or two.

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by cornball on May 6, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

That line up hasn't clicked since April 2008.

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 6, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

younger than 30 players tend to be like that. Unlike olderr then 29 players they tend to click again.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still think the Dodgers will win the division.

/waits for rotten fruit to come flying

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 6, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I did a SI.com boxseat survey early in the season, asking who I thought would win each division. Even though it caused me excruciating pain, I confess to checking the Dodgers’ box. Sadly, I think they are the most likely to do so. I don’t expect the Giants to come very close at all. Reality sucks sometimes.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on May 6, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gave my brother my picks for the division winners and prefaced my NL West pick with “as much as it pains me to say…” It is a completely sucky situation when the Dodgers aren’t bad. I can’t even bring myself to call them good. They’re just the opposite of bad in terms of win-loss record and on field performance.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 6, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see what you’re doing. A Bondslegend-style jinx.

LOOK LOOK THE DODGERS WILL WIN THE DIVISION I AM 100% SURE OF THIS

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on May 6, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed...

one might even go so far as to say, the giants is dead. one might just say that now.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on May 6, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

As much as it pains me to say it

I picked the Dodgers to win the NL before the season started.

by SheboyganBratwurst on May 6, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's us make it close.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on May 6, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would bet my adoption of Aaron King on the Dodgers winning. I’m a realist. Sadly D:

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 6, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anagram of "Who will win the National League West?"

A WHITE-HOT, WALL-TO-WALL, GENUINE SWINE

Looks like the anagrammer is also picking the Dodgers.

Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING

by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 6, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Best one yet

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on May 6, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't understand it

do you know i think will win the west? THE GIANTS. that’s why i root for them.

i am a logical, educated, smart man but we all need something to believe in to save us from the soul-crushing void that is the daily work day. and that something is the faith that the sports uniform i root for will defeat the sports uniform i root against.

so enough of these monkey-fighting Dodgers winning the monday-to-friday West! We will emerge victorious! Victory is ours!

Dodgers fans eat their young.

by redhornet78 on May 6, 2009 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Their laundry hits better than our laundry.

Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING

by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 6, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The LA hype machine is in full effect right now. Watching ESPN today everybody is worshiping them. I can’t stand the fact that with our dominant pitching all we need is one right handed power hitter to put us in contention. Sabes needs to get it done. One good thing about all off this nonsense is LA is now a target for every NL West team.

Billy Ripken is a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on May 6, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions  

That pic just made my day, thank you.

Billy Ripken is a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on May 6, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is stupidly early to pronounce. Yeah, if the Dodgers continue to be undefeated at home this year, they will run away with the division. If they do run away with it, I will find a happy place (like, at least Sabean will be less likely to make a stupid trade in an ill advised run this year).

I don’t think the Giants goal should be winning the division this year, unless it just sort of falls to them. The Giants should shoot for competency and entertainment value, with an eye toward next year and beyond.

by out machine on May 6, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I read this as “The Giants should shoot for complacency”.

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by can of corn on May 6, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They already accomplished complacency for the last several years re drafting hitters :-)

by out machine on May 6, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers can go 162-0 and I will remain unimpressed.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 6, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh huh. And the big news here is....???

Nobody thought that the Giants would win the NL West this year, committed as we all are to The Plan. Everyone thought it would be either the dodgers or the d-bags, some sort of sissyfight to the end. So this guy has to come up with a hook for his essay, and it’s “We’re way ahead in a weak division, so it’s over.” It’s a lazy pseudo-journalistic device, a “hack” trope, if you will.

He’s saying what we all basically know to be the probable outcome. Pay him no attention and maybe he will go away and quit looking at us.

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by Mayor of 311 on May 6, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Stop it with your logic!

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by SoFa King Mike on May 6, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly. not many people around here seriously thought the Giants would be contenders to the end (at least with this roster as it is constructed). It’s neat that they’re hanging around .500 so early in the season, but realistically the best we can hope for is the continued development of our pitching staff, some of our position prospects will get a chance to play in the big leagues and show themselves worthy of the opportunity and that our minor leaguers will continue to progress through the system with as few setbacks as possible (especially to our rising stars).

I think that .500 is the ceiling for this particular team as it is constructed right now. And that’s being generous with my original prediction of 74-78 wins (iirc).

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 6, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers aren't this good...

no team in baseball is as good as the dodgers have been playing. Billingsley will run into a bump, Kershaw is no Lincecum, and Wolf is…well, Wolf. I guess my point is that it’s way too early to judge. Remember that the DBacks were going to run away with the division this time last year.

On another note, I think the Giants will actually get a bit better. The Giants are essentially playing without Rowand or Winn right now, and they’re still playing well. I’m not holding my breath or making deadline trades, but I think the Giants are one injury to Billingsley/Manny away from competing.

by angryseals on May 6, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

But but but — the guy said that even though the D’backs couldn’t hold on to win, the Dodgers will. You can’t argue with that kind of logic!!

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by can of corn on May 6, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

pfffft dodgers smodgers…
Manny will blow a hammy, their pitching will tank, and a freak comet will hit chavez latrine.
It’s a marathon, not a sprint, let them run away with the division now, it will make their collapse in August and September all the sweeter.

by Merope on May 6, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny will fake-blow a hammy and demand a trade to Cleveland

There – fixed it for you.

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by can of corn on May 6, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny will fake-blow a hammy and demand a trade to Cleveland where he will hit .750 with 38 HRs

Now with added fix.

by scout6 on May 6, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

My prediction

1. Meteor hits Dodger Stadium during interleague play with Angels, wiping out entire city of Los Angeles (Bonds will be visiting SF, curing an entire children’s hospital).

2. New teams are created in Vancouver and Tijuana.

3. Vacant land formerly known as LA will return to orange groves, providing steady employment for out of work Oklahomans.

4. Giants win four World Series in a row, A’s fans finally shut up during interleague play.

Right now Jon Miller is somewhere wearing a flamboyant tie and thinking about me.

by Norm Median on May 6, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

BP

currently gives the Dodgers a 71% chance of winning the division, 83% if you use PECOTA to predict future results.

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by zenbitz on May 6, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

what about xeifrank’s simulator?

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by SF Pete on May 6, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

please don’t tempt fate…

by positiveuphemism on May 6, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

explain…this has got to be good

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by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a poster named xeifrank

he’s a Dodger fan and he claims to have come up with a simulator (software?) for baseball games. He comes on here every now and again to give his simulation results.

He’s generally not well regarded around here.

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by thehavenot on May 6, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew he was a dodger fan, he is one of like 6 posters at True Blue, which by the way is also a blog for the dallas cowboys

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 6, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

My 79 win prediction for the Giants still stands. The Dodgers can set themselves on fire.

by Lars The Wanderer on May 6, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m wiling to help, if needed.

by Natto on May 6, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

such a noble cause should not be denied.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 6, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now

That’s what I thought too.

I guess great minds do think alike…. or some kind of minds anyway

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 6, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really early for that article

The Dodgers will probably win the division. The .550 ball thing sounds about right and finishing with 94 wins would win it. But…many things can change. I don’t think the Dodgers pitching will stay as good as it has unless the offense stays as good as it has.

I think what is happening is the pitchers just go out and throw because they know that they will get runs. Imagine if our pitchers (Cain) could go out every time and just huck the ball. Timmy does and the team scores. The rest of the guys..not so much.

It’s like the hitters are loose when Timmy pitches because they believe in him but the other guys they tighten up a little. Oh well.

Anyway, I don’t think the Dodgers can continue on this pace. They just aren’t “that” good. I think their team OBP is like 380 or something crazy like that. No way they keep that pace up.

by positiveuphemism on May 6, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

This...

And not to mention the only games the Dodgers have played against non-NL West opponents were 3 games at Houston (current record: 11-15), where the Dodgers went 1-2.

Now they have a 2-game series against the 7-17 Washington Nationals, so even if the Dodgers go into this weekend’s series 22-8 and 14-0 at home, that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the 1927 Yankees.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on May 6, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

their pitching staff has allowed something like a .267 BABIP against.

Of course, even if that drifts back to .300 their numbers will still be respectable.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 6, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lineup

LF Lewis
SS Renteria
3B Sandoval
C Molina
CF Rowand
RF Winn
1B Ishikawa
2B Burriss
P Unit

by Lars The Wanderer on May 6, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Meh.

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by cornball on May 6, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Needs more Bonds.

by Merope on May 6, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHO PLAYS A GAME AT 20 TO THE HOUR?? BAH!!!

by satyricrash on May 6, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You folks do realize that the only people who hate the Dodgers are fans. The players do NOT hate them. Giants players don’t hate Dodgers players.

by SFGuy on May 6, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah that was the 1960s when generally players stayed with one team. This is 2009 where players switch teams like Paris Hilton switches boyfriends.

by SFGuy on May 6, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

My hate for the Dodgers does not increase nor decrease depending on whether the players hate the Dodgers.

by Lars The Wanderer on May 6, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually I think they are TOO friendly. I would have been old school Bob Gibson where I would hate everyone on the other team (during the season) even my own brother.

by SFGuy on May 6, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I and I could dig and find a fight between the Pirates and Braves.

by SFGuy on May 6, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t take much digging. It wasn’t like a searched for an hour to find this. I didn’t even post the others I found. Jeff Weaver kinda hates the Giants. Heh.

by Lars The Wanderer on May 6, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If this is true....

then Lincecum will strike out 400 batters this year, which I hope will happen, but I know won’t. I don’t think he’s pitched as consistently as he did last year and he’s still tearing batters apart. Poor Timmy. Keep it up though.

by BucksForever on May 6, 2009 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome

It is so GREAT to read this and the comments after knowing that Manny is out for 50 games. So awesome. There are so many ways his testing positive and suspension just keeps on giving, I swear

by Mrbasepaul on May 8, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

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