Winning a Series with Five Runs or Less: How Rare Is It?
The Giants have two series wins this season in which they’ve scored five runs or less for the entire series. Hey, that’s kind of quirky, I thought. Maybe it would be worth it to go through the schedules from previous years and see when the last time that happened was.
It started as an innocent question. It turned into something that defeated me. It was like eating a canister of Pringles; by the end, you aren’t tasting potato chips, you just taste salty, mustachio-flecked mush. I fell asleep with a laptop on my lap, and that was almost certainly sterilizing me. Don’t ever tell me that I haven’t made sacrifices for this site.
I made it to 1979. In the past thirty years, the Giants have won just one series in which they scored five runs or less. The Giants took two of three from the Dodgers from June 23rd to June 25th, 2003, even though the Giants only scored five runs.
That answers the question about five runs in a series, but the Giants only scored four runs in a series win against the Diamondbacks early this year. I went back to check 1968 – one of the most pitching-heavy seasons of the modern era – and a four-run series win didn’t even happen then. The Giants had two series wins in ’68 in which they scored five runs, and that includes two-game series. The team ERA that year: 2.71.
It’s rare that the Giants have lost a three-game series when scoring four runs. That kind of hitting futility just doesn’t happen that often, win or lose.
Grand summary point: Don’t get used to this. Tell your friends and your family that we’ve just seen two series wins that are almost as uncommon as perfect games. Tell the world. Because right now, there are people thinking, "Well, yeah, pitching is 80% of the game, and any of our starters can throw a shutout every time out. We just need to scratch one or two runs out, and we’ll be fine." That’s crazy talk. Unfortunately, there’s a little anecdotal evidence to support theory now.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m thrilled at the wins. The Giants are making a habit of taking two games out of a three-game series, and it’s been fun. But either the offense needs to improve, even just a little bit, or the fun stops. You know that. I know you know that. You know I know you know that. It’s even more of a historic anomaly than we might have realized, though. Here’s hoping that they actually hit a little bit.
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I’m still convinced that they’re bound to hit at least a bit better than this. Of course, I was hoping that would start happening after we faced some worse pitchers and then we scored like 2 runs off of Jason Marquis and Jason Hammel, so…
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he just needs to concetrate harder
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 4, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
:( miss them
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Not sure it's possible for this to continue
is our team BABIP like .150 or something? It honestly does seem impossible that the entire team is so terrible offensively.
That said, I was in the “the pitching is good enough to compensate for terrible offense” crowd, so what do I know?
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The team’s BABIP is .305.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SFG/2009-batting.shtml
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Yikes
so can we expect a REGRESSiON from this performance?
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The most likely path for improvement is not to let things play out, but for the team to stop striking out so damn much.
Lookin’ at you, Ishikawa.
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To be fair to Ishi, it looks like him and Freddie Lewis are in some sort of competition to see who is gonna lead the team in strikeouts.
Thankfully, at least Freddie Lewis can get on base at times.
by Squire_Boone on May 4, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, but Fred balances it out by getting on base a lot, even if a lot of that comes from a BABIP of almost .500
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SUSTAINABLE!
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what’s really remarkable about Ishikawa’s futility is that it takes 4 strikes to strike him out.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
lol they clarified that, the second pitch was actually called a ball – it didn’t touch Ishikawa’s bat.
some clarification. they’re either incompetent or the ball that hit the bat didn’t.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
it sure as heck didn’t look like it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, as xanthan points out below (SCOOPED because I’m higher in the thread!) this team has been awful with RISP. SO there should be more runs, even if the number of baserunners should be adjusted a bit downward.
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I actually think...
That this picture provides photo evidence of how bad a teammate Matt Cain really is.
Right before this picture was taken Matt Cain turned to Randy Winn and said coldly:
“Randy, I banged your wife.”
Someone get Damon Minor's agent on the phone stat!
by fanofvanlandingham on May 4, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions
The Giants wives have sex with Matt Cain because they have sex with Matt Cain.
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Tautology!
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All weekend and even today, I’ve been thinking about how good this team’s pitching is and how bad the offense is.
I’ve decided I much prefer this to the other way around. If we had a bunch of mashers, and crappy pitching, it would be more maddening and frustrating. The current team seems to have a much better chance to stay in games than a team that scores 5 runs in an inning and gives up 7 the next.
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It is definitely more fun to watch a team of mashers – I was in Baltimore in 1996 and that was a riot – but I know I’ve read a study somewhere (and I can’t find it now, grrrr) that a team that scores little and allows little will outperform the high-scoring and high-allowing team in the postseason, given identical records.
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Clarification
I did not mean to imply that the postseason was in our future. Just making an observation about other types of teams that could theoretically end up in the postseason.
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That actually SEEMS to be true...
I had always figured that to be true despite not having any evidence for it.
Interesting stuff though.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 4, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
can we trade for the phillies line up (minus Victorino and Werth)?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 4, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno...
…I remember watching the Rockies circa 95/96; they were that kind of a team and pretty fun to watch. There was no such thing as an insurmountable lead. They could give up nine runs in the first four innings and still come back to win, or lay an eleven run inning on their opponents (both games happen to be against the Padres, so feel free to attribute this to misplays by Bochy).
Of course, like the 2009 Giants they could also be insanely frustrating.
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I dunno...
If both teams are lucky to make the playoffs, I’d prefer the team with the goodpitching.
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I would too...
…I was just saying that both can be fun to watch, and probably about equally frustrating.
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No kidding
Today I was killing time looking at the Giants’ stats this year on baseball-reference.com. I was surprised to see that, despite the poor OBP, Richie had put up a SLG of .486. Then I realized that my eyes had jumped a column, and I was looking at his OPS.
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D:
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Aurilia actually has been worse than Ishikawa this year.
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But that's unpossible. He is hitting against LHP, while Ishi faces the RHP.
Ergo, Aurilia must be hitting as well or better than Ishi. Did they not teach Logic 101 at whatever school you and groud attended?
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a four-run season win didn’t even happen then.
lolwut
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a four-run seasonwindidn’t even happen then.
fixed.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad, with this pitching it’s a perfect playoff team. If it only could score enough wins to get there…
Honestly, its kind of a shame that this staff isn’t going to go to the postseason— If Howry and Wilson work out the kinks they’re pretty much as good as you could hope for top to bottom.
by thethrillisgone on May 4, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Why, exactly
are we writing off playoff hopes in early may? When we’re 12-11, have one of the best staffs in baseball, and are playing in a weak division? Y’all are haters. GO BE PADRES FANS!!
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I for one would like to continue with the crazy talk
The less we score the more we win.
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that does seem to be an intentional strategy…and it’s working!
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Stats Shmatz
All of our success to date has been against the reputedly weak NL West. So, while I am very happy with what we have been watching, May will be a bit more revealing with the Nats, Mets, Mariners, Braves, and Cardinals on the schedule.
If we are still around .500 on June 1, I will be very excited!
Yes, the Nats will be the true test of us.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
The philly announcer were talking about how SF would like to have him in the rotation now and shouldn’t have traded him away. While I agree with not trading him, I think SF is pretty content with rotation
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by say hey nation on May 4, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish he was on our team right now
So we can trade him for some hitting
We could still trade him for Mike Stanton.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid Mike Stanton
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If the Giants had Martis back...
…he’d be the ace of the Grizzlies rotation right about now.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Crazy
The Giants have won their first five home series of the year for the first time since moving to San Francisco in 1958. That’s significant for a team that compiled losing records at home in three of the previous four seasons. Winning all four “rubber” games they have played in three-game series has helped.
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WOW!! I would of thought one those late 90’s early 00’s team would have done it
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 4, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
huh huh..rubber

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m holding on to my optimism even though all series except the Brewers are from the NL West. I’m not sure if I have a morbid curiosity to see what will happen with the East and Central teams. We’ll see if I’m just delusional or overjoyed.
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I'll take the wins too
but scoring 3.5 runs per game isn’t going to keep a team at or near .500 for long. I enjoyed April, but fear the rest of the season.
Also,
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reminds me of a certain Penny Arcade comic.
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl. Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis
There are times when I would prefer the Giants to get blown out rather then lose a game by 1 run. When they are constantly leaving RISP with less than 2 outs in a close game, my soul is ripped out of my flesh suit, fashioned into the latest cutting utencil by Ronco®, and then jammed into my ear.
by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, but….
they are ranked 9th overall for Pitcher BA: .116
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 4, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
In the words of Jon Stewart
“Congratulations for being the skinniest kid at fat camp”
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
McCC = McClain Chronicles
That's bound to go up.
Not to imply it’ll be good, just not that wretched.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 4, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Without realizing these facts...
I had been thinking that soon, the Giants pitching was going to start being less effective (but still really good), and their hitting was going to become a bit more effective. Ultimately this would enable about the same number of wins (maybe a bit less; but .500 is about where I figured the Giants to be).
But if you really look at it, the Giants offense is horrible, even compared to last year.
Molina, Lewis and Sandoval are essentially the only starters actually HITTING the ball. And Lewis has been frustrating with his inability to knock in runs.
I think it’s only realistic for the Giants offense to get a little better. Rowand isn’t going to bat .240 all season, Renteria isn’t going to bat .250 all season, Winn isn’t going to bat .220 all season, and I personally don’t believe Burriss is going to continue to bat .210.
Also, I don’t believe Lewis’ glove is going to continue to be this frustrating…
So yeh… Things are gonna even out sooner or later.
Lots and lots of assumptions in there. Rowand and Winn are probably the most likely to improve out of your group, Rowand is due for a hot steak as he’s OPS+ing 15 points lower than last year. And Winn has been a notoriously slow starter in recent years. Renteria, on the other hand, is almost the exact same hitter he was last year, so I’m not too excited for an actual improvement from him. And Burriss, well, he just looks overmatched. I’d be surprised if he stays above the Mendoza line the whole year (if he doesn’t get sent first). As for 1st base, well that’s just a sink-hole and I don’t think the current characters will be part of a Giants’ team that makes the playoffs. The real change will probably come in the timeliness of the hits, as you alluded to above.
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If you optimize your processor voltage you could probably get around a 20% core temperature reduction and longer battery life.
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By 20% I mean peak (highest multiplier), you’ll probably get somewhere around 5-10% core temp reduction at your lowest (idle) multiplier.
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by Zetsuboushita on May 4, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants are 29th in SLG at .371
The A’s are last with .333. Wow!
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The A’s offense is replacement level.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Yerp. I didn’t realize they were that impotent. I think they need a line-up wide scrip for vardenafil.
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Is Yerp a new medical term?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 4, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. I use it all the time in my notes: “Patient is a 65yo male who presents with rash on the feet. Initial reaction: yerp.”
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They really needed to make a big move in the offseason, like trading for Matt Holliday or something.
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Yeah, right.
Like the A’s would ever make a move like that.
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it seems like for every Dodger move that’s worked out, there’s been an equal A’s move that has not.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
I should have said that the A’s position players are replacement level.
They have a collective WAR of 0.
They are a few runs over replacement on defense.
Therefore their entire offense is below replacement level.
The Giants are like .2 wins above replacement.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
The A’s are hitting like a team of Neifi Perezes.
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Do they have “canon” or “hoses” for arms?
I believe that is how Neifi arm was described.
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 4, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It's more than just the Coors effect
Holliday on the road, 2006-2008: .296 / .370 / .486
Holliday, 2009: .233 / .281 /.367
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
/is acutely aware of this fact.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
I know. That’s why I wrote “thirty.”
(Just now…)
by Grant Brisbee on May 4, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis is leading off again.
I thought that caused him to have teh strikeouts.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Don't expect a breakthrough tonight
Per Baggs:
Wind currently blowing straight in at Wrigley. Just what the Giants offense needs.
LF Lewis
SS Renteria
3B Sandoval
C Molina
CF Rowand
RF Winn
1B Ishikawa
2B Burriss
P Sanchez
First six hitters: 50% approval rating (which goes up to 66% if defense is considered). Last two: 0%, counting defense.
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Lincecum should start every game.
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Randy Winn is hitting 6th?
…the fuck?
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“Remember, don’t shoot the white ones.”
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Look at this guy.( Puts chair leg where leg is supposed to be) How hard is that.(Guy has happy face.)
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
You want him higher, or lower?
Randy Winn’s last 2 weeks < Emmanuel Burriss’ season to date
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Yeah, I am not opposed to the move. He can hit higher in the order when he gets his head out of his ass.
by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Thinking about it a little more, I guess it’s fine. I should have saved my hysterical overreaction for the gamethread.
Still, he’s been awful enough that if you don’t have any confidence in him, you should just give him the day off. So there’s my opinion, Bruce Bochy, since I know you diligently read the comments on this site.
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not that it really matters where anyone 1-6 hits.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
we have a lineup full of 7th hitters.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 4, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe...
…some popouts will drop in for hits with the wind… or maybe not.
yippie-ki-yay-mo-fo's. Usually, terrible things that are done with the excuse that progress requires them are not really progress at all, but just terrible things. Such as: DH
we should start Velez in CF for the luls.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
To be fair, Ben is a creepy little mofo
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I generally call him “a creepy little shrimp”
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He has some weird eyes, they bug out too far.
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
I have to say that Michael Emerson’s performance as Ben has been quite probably the single best reason to watch Lost the last two seasons.
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He really is
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The amazing part was how forgetful he was at first (when he was just a no-name guy getting tortured), which was the point.
by Grant Brisbee on May 4, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to agree. The storylines have become borderline insane. But as a loyal follower, I will continue to watch the show.
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
+1
It’s starting to look like it’s coming around, though. I was worried about the storyline for a minute there, but last week’s was really good
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THIS
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you should watch lost
it’s awesome
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So
What I took out of this article: The 2009 Giants have better pitching than the 1968 Giants!
I’m fairly confident that there was no greater point that I am missing. I am really excited about the rest of the season and the dominating Giants pitching!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
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