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Outside the box draft thought...

So by now, we've all heard most of the names who are widely considered to be possibilities to go to the Giants at No. 6 in the draft.  Some of us are still holding out for a miracle (Dustin Ackley/Aaron Crow), others have settled on the high upside bats (Grant Green/Donovan Tate), and still others would be perfectly content if the Giants plucked another high upside starter from the high school ranks.

Well, in a draft like this, without the star power college bats, that, say, last year had (God what I wouldn't give for a shot at a Justin Smoak or Brett Wallace at #6 this year), any of those seem like it could be an interesting selection, and quite valid.  Basically, with so little certainty this year, it would be difficult to picture a selection that was so far out of left field that it actually sent many fans off the deep end, ranting and raving about the ineptitude about Brian Sabean.  Matzek? Ok. Tate?  Let's hope they're able to develop him.  Strasburg? OMGWHTFBBQ!

But lately, I've been thinking of one selection that WOULD probably piss a lot of people here off. And it seems like I'm not the only one.  Check out the notes for the Giants on Jonathan Mayo's recent mock draft.

That Drew Storen mention?  Yeah, that's the guy who's got me thinking.

Storen, for those who don't know, has been Stanford's lights out closer for the past two seasons.  He's a draft eligible sophomore largely expected to be the first reliever off the board, somewhere in the late first round. He's got electric stuff and tremendous control-- outside of one or two rough outings, he was nothing short of spectacular for the Cardinal this season. In 42.2 IP, he recorded 66 strikeouts and just eight walks.  And that was against top-notch competition. Aside from the usual Pac-10 slate, Storen did very well against  Vanderbilt and Texas in the non-conference schedule. In short, it sure looks like he's got everything it would take to be a top-notch major league reliever.

But here's where I sort of start to get interested... because other than the fact that relief pitching is what he did in college, I have to wonder if there's any reason Storen couldn't be viewed as a prospect to start, and be damn good at it, at the ML level.  In full disclosure, I'm a Stanford student and somewhat of a homer.  I've met Storen once or twice, but really he's more a friend of a friend. But the rumors have it that part of the reason he's been so eager to leave school early (even before he cemented his status as a first round talent) was that he WANTS to start.  Indeed, prior to the start of this season, I really thought that's where he should be, personally. And I kinda wonder if Stanford's season might've gone differently if he had.  I know of no reason why he couldn't start, and sort of feel like when a guy is so obviously the best pitcher on your staff, you need to give him that chance. But that's never something that Stanford did.

So, anyway, I wanted to throw this out there as an idea: say the Giants drafted Storen, but with the notion to give him a shot as a starter.  If that failed, he could, theoretically, always return to the bullpen and be a top closing prospect (I feel like he's got that kind of mentality where a little failure as a starter role wouldn't crush his confidence as a reliever). Grant posted a little earlier that there is no such thing as a safe pitching prospect, because, well, TINSTAAP.  And that's a valid point. But so far as it goes, I have to believe that a pitcher with Storen's numbers against top competition and raw stuff make him about as safe as pitching prospect gets-- as a reliever at least. Add in the possible upside of ace stuff as a starter, and, well, I think maybe you get the picture.  I'm starting to become intrigued by the possibility of shocking the baseball world and drafting Storen at sixth.  He's got that great combination of possibly a really high ceiling, coupled with a solid floor as well. Worst case scenario, he's a very good bullpen arm or flames out (as is a possibility with any pitcher).  Best case? Front of the rotation star.

I'm definitely intrigued. Not sold (far from it), but intrigued at least. What do you think of Storen?  Is there a prospect out there who you think might be a good fit for the Giants at six that isn't getting much attention as a possibility at that spot?

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If they draft Storen at six, they better be convinced he can start. There is just no value in drafting relievers in the top-20.

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by cornball on May 29, 2009 6:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Drafting relievers in the 1st round of the draft is like the stupidest thing ever. So, yeah.

by xanthan on May 29, 2009 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THIS

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOREN

Do you think we could get Brett Jackson later though?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 30, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

frankly, i was surprised it took you so long, North Side.

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by Smoke on the Water on May 30, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not interested at all to be honest. Drafting relievers in the first round is pretty much the worst thing you can possibly do so it’d be absolutely horrific if we drafted him with that in mind.

With regards to drafting him as a starter then i can’t help but think that’s very risky. Both in terms of whether he’ll be able to make the change physically or in terms of whether his stuff will hold up to being a starter, especially in terms of being an ace.

I see no reason to take that risk as there’s plenty of good pitchers who come without that risk and with equal, and probably greater upside.

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by GiantFan on May 29, 2009 6:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

For fun, here’s the Top 10 relievers in baseball last season by WAR and draft position.

Wood was drafted as a starter, I’m not sure about anyone else.

by xanthan on May 29, 2009 6:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mo was a starter, too. duh.

by xanthan on May 29, 2009 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kuo was a starter too if I recall. OK, I’ll stop talking to myself. But, I think it’s pretty clear that it’s easier to find a reliever in the later rounds, as undrafted FA’s, or by converting a starter → relief.

by xanthan on May 29, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nathan was a SS.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 29, 2009 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe the brother should call Joe Nathan for career advice.

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by jcb9 on May 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have any other Giants done this, by the way? The only ones I can think of are Nathan and Felix Rodriguez (originally a catcher).

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by jcb9 on May 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nick Pereira was a shortstop in college

Converted to pitcher after his frosh year at De Anza.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hennessey was a SS. Foppert played some 1b for USF.

by wilriv21 on May 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were both primarily pitchers, though in college, though.

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by jcb9 on May 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Downs pitched at Alabama before he gave it up to focus on hitting. He told me he could throw hard but had no location.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mr. McBryde and I did not discuss pitching.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He pitched and played SS in HS as well. He was our ace when we played together in Palomino ball when we were 18(after HS graduation).

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by Giant among Angels on May 29, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Story time

Before a game there was a delay because the umpires were late and Nick was mouthing off to our coach (all in fun) about how he could strike him out. The coach called him out and the two of them walked onto the field. Nick threw 2 sliders and the coach, who was just a few years out of playing college ball(Chico), hit both waaayy out of the park. I mean way out of the park.

In short, our coach rode him all season about his ownership of him and his weak-ass slider.

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by Giant among Angels on May 29, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lance Niekro!

by Natto on May 29, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh, I thought I had read all the way down in this thread before posting. Apparently not.

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by EliminateMe on May 29, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lance Niekro!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 29, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Coutlangus

by Grant on May 29, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Bocock.

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:-(

by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Coutlangus.

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by Smotheredinhugs on May 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m of the general opinion that converted starters make the best short relievers/closers. Guys fail as starters often because they can’t develop that 3rd pitch, but already have at least one plus pitch (usually a fastball) and very good or plus 2nd pitch (usually a breaking ball of some sort or changeup.)

Not having that 3rd good pitch to rely on prevents them from getting through the order more than once or twice, but that isn’t a problem in short relief. Also, they don’t have to worry about pacing themselves and can throw the fastball harder. Also, the amount of innings thrown as a starter helps build up the arm strength at a younger age.

Plus, I just think that overall, starters are the best pitchers in each org and should be given a chance to prove that they can start until they show otherwise.

Obviously, this isn’t the case with every reliever. Trevor Hoffman was never really a starter in the pros before becoming a dominant closer.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was a SS at The University of Arizona

Hoffman was a SS at the U of A. The changeup came later in life.

by eatmybay on May 29, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Papelbon was originally a starter.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somewhat, he was originally a closer in college, and the Red Sox tried to convert him into a starter

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by TexasRanger on May 30, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuentes was a starter in the Mariners system before they converted him into a reliever in AAA. He was then traded to the Rockies as part of the Jeff Cirillo deal.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 29, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brad Lidge was a starter at Notre Dame and only converted in the minors because he got hurt too often. He actually had a start in the majors.

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by PAWarrior on May 29, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Qualls was a starter in the minors, as well.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Out of the box thinking: RHP Mike Leake

Leake’s stats from BA. Pitchers are listed down towards the end. He is ranked 14.

Leake’s MLB scouting report.

Leake will be starting for ASU Saturday in the Regionals. Give him a looksee.

by wilriv21 on May 29, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How many college relievers have been succesfully converted into starters? The only guy who I can think of off the top of my head is Russ Ortiz, but I’m sure there’re more.

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by jcb9 on May 29, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ya

the reason i’m interested in storen is because i really think he SHOULD have started in college. i have no idea what marquess was thinking this year, honestly.

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by Smoke on the Water on May 29, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are the chances Storen could be left on the board when the Giants get their next pick?

…and would it still be worthwhile? Or would it still depend on whether they want to make him a starter?

by KrazyKrabMeat on May 29, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Storen pitched one of the games I attended last weekend

Eight Ks but two wild pitches. He struck out the side to end the game.

On a silly note, I think the Giants should draft Max Fearnow and make him a closer, because that’s a great closer name. FEAR NOW.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I already fear now when our closer comes into games.

by Natto on May 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's supposed to scare the other team

I don’t think Brian Wilson got the memo.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fear now when Richie hits with a man on first base and less than 2 outs.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 29, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve come to terms with that and have accepted it as part of life.

by Natto on May 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fear now when Richie AB’s hits with a man on first base and less than 2 outs.

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately, he pronounces it “fear-no” as in:

Q: “Do you fear the Giants closer?”
A: “Fear? No…”

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by Smoke on the Water on May 29, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

At one of the Stanford games last weekend, there was a broken bat. Yes. An aluminum bat broke off at the handle. The barrel went flying and the batter looked at the sawed off stump in his hand going WTF. I googled “broken aluminum bat” and found a Youtube video of UNC’s Dustin Ackley breaking his bat on a grand slam.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

it actually happens more often than you would think

by FluLikeSymptoms on May 29, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I broke a bat in the batting cages a few years ago. It was a grungy, batting cage bat, but still….

by Grant on May 29, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

they still have batting cages? I haven’t seen one around in ages.

by FluLikeSymptoms on May 29, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s one at Scandia in Fairfield. I’ve seen several ballplayer-looking types there.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I hit there as a youngster!

by Dan from NM on May 29, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are we talking legitimate baseball-specific batting cage places? I remember going to a place in Sunnyvale, but it has probably been 15 years.

Is Malibu Grand Prix in Redwood City still there? They had some dinky batting cages.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 30, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is Fontanetti’s in San Jose that was always a real dump but had plenty of cages to where you wouldn’t have to wait in line. From the looks of the website they may have cleaned it up tough over the past 5-6 years.

Hardtke WOB was very nice and well kept. Though they make most of their profits on over priced lessons from jamoke’s as instructors.

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by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

theres one next to Pixie PlayLand in Concord too

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 30, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happens alot more now that the higher level college teams are switching to composite bats. They will crack and sound funny when they are near busting. Or if they are two-piece bats, they will break at the taper/connection piece and the barrel will go flying like you describe.

On a side note, lots of talk of cheating with the emergence of composite bats in college BB now. Has been happening for years in slowpitch softball, but now colleges are doing it too. Pop off the endcap and shave out a little of the the inside of the bat and the walls flex more which give them way more pop. Guess if you can’t cheat by juicing the player, you have to juice the equipment

by m34josh on May 29, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see. I thought the whole reason amateur programs used aluminum bats was to spare the costs of replacing broken bats.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Composite bats still last a long, long time (unless you shave them) and they perform better than aluminum. I can’t remember which college team I read about, but they felt they had such a disadvantage during last years CWS because of their Nike contract (Nike doesn’t have any comp bats,) that they had the contract changed for this season to allow them to use bats other than Nike

by m34josh on May 30, 2009 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you want to take a closer 6th overall?

get back inside the box

by FluLikeSymptoms on May 29, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this

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by haverecords on May 29, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

Ask the Pirates how that one worked out.

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by jponry on May 29, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

i want to take a closer and make him a starter :p

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by Smoke on the Water on May 29, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know what else we could do?

take a starter and make him into a starter

by FluLikeSymptoms on May 30, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IF he can start, and IF his third and fourth pitches develop and IF he has the stamina to develop into a 200 innings pitcher… Yeah, sure. But those are a lot of IFs without all the other caveats that the other pitchers also have. So, no. Would love this if we picked in the 12-18 range.

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by tedfordfan on May 29, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I agree with this...

really, I was just throwing it out there to get opinions. As I’ve said before, I really, truly wish you could trade picks, because I think I’d much rather have Storen and like an extra second rounder this year than whatever high school arm we’ll probably pick up.

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by Smoke on the Water on May 29, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If our options are

A) A good reliever who wants to start
 
OR

B) A good starter who wants to start

Then I think I’m gonna go with B.

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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

B

Giants just seem to not have very good luck with closers

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 29, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also originally a starter.

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:-(

by Cookyman on May 30, 2009 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Storen is good

But there’s no way I’d want him over someone like Matzek, Wheeler, Purke, Turner, Leake or Miller. Or even Tate.

by Hobbes2d on May 29, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 29, 2009 4:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would take him

in the 2nd round if he was still available.

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by The Thrill on May 29, 2009 10:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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