WTF?! Giants linked to Peavy?!
by Hobbes2d on May 29, 2009 12:53 AM PDT
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To be honest I'm quite perplexed...although if we ever did get him we would destroy the Dodgers in head to head matchups with him and Timmy....
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/05/stark-on-peavy-oswalt-phillies-derosa-giants.html
The Padres' recent winning streak has not changed their intention of trading Jake Peavy. The Dodgers and Cubs are in Peavy's first tier of choices, follwed by the Giants, Cardinals, and Astros. The Angels would be the one AL team he'd consider. The East Coast is a long shot. Also, Peavy will want his 2011-13 partial no-trade clause to become a full no-trade. Peavy's friend Roy Oswalt has been unsuccessful in lobbying Astros owner Drayton McLane, as the 'Stros can't take on Peavy's contract. As for the Dodgers, GM Ned Colletti told the L.A. Times he hasn't talked to the Padres about Peavy since the pitcher vetoed the White Sox deal.
And then there was this tidbit as well for potential bats we have supposedly discussed....
The Giants seek a middle-of-the-order bat, and Jonathan Sanchez is being dangled. Three targets they haven't had success on are Dan Uggla, Jorge Cantu, and possibly Carlos Lee. Lee, according to one Stark source, doesn't intend to waive his no-trade for anyone.
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It’s not saying the Giants have any interest. It’s saying that Peavy would probably okay a trade to San Francisco because it’s in the NL and pretty close to his home in San Diego.
That’s it.
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by groug on May 29, 2009 12:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s still being linked to them is it not? Where did I say WE specifically had interest? Like the Giants wouldn’t be interested in another stud pitcher….
by Hobbes2d on May 29, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If SF is being linked to SD it should be about AGonzalez
by wilriv21 on May 29, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
any article that discusses both Jake Peavy and the San Francisco Giants is linking to Peavy to the Giants
by FluLikeSymptoms on May 29, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants are a possible home for Albert Pujols
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by bondslegend on May 29, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on May 29, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we can’t pretend for a minute? You’re heartless EliminateMe, heartless.
by tyrannoman on May 29, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not really what what i’d describe as being linked to them, just a list of places that Peavy would be willing to play in. There’s nothing to suggest that we’re interested in him or that he’s asking to join us specifically, we just happen to be a team he wouldn’t mind playing for (which i think most of us could have assumed anyway) If say i were to say that i want to play for the Giants you wouldn’t say that “Giants linked to GiantsFan” as there’s nothing to suggest that a move is going to be made.
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by GiantFan on May 29, 2009 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
trading for Peavy would be smart, if the Padres are willing to trade him within the division. It’s the same philosophy as to why a team loaded with pitchers still continues to select pitching in the high rounds of the draft. Number one is that you can never have enough good pitching, and number two is that you can trade pitching to get the bat(s) that you might need if you have more than enough. I can’t see why the Padres would want to trade him and then see him five times every year, but if they’re talking to the Dodgers, they would certainly talk to the Giants.
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by rxmeister on May 29, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lame.
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by BrianBokake on May 29, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But is this a link worthy of an entire Fanpost?
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by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Johnny Disaster on May 29, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fanshwhat?
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by EliminateMe on May 29, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOW GOOD WILL PEAVY LOOK IN A GIANTS UNIFORM.... DAMN
IMAGINE LINCECUM, PEAVY, CAIN, JOHNSON, AND ZITO
by Carmelballin on May 30, 2009 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would Sanchez, Alderson, and any hitter in our system not named Anvil/Buster get it done? And would you make that trade? Timmy, Peavy, Cain, Zito, Johnson would be a rotation for the ages!
by OTTOMATIC on May 29, 2009 2:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t mean I would make that trade. And I wouldn’t.
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by cornball on May 29, 2009 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
computer says ...
“NAH”
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by daveinexile on May 29, 2009 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would make that trade in a second. You simply don’t know if Alderson is going to be a stud as yet, and if it’s not Buster or Anvil, it’s a worthwhile risk. Imagine this rotation if you slide Peavy into the inconsistent Sanchez’ spot. Then again, the number one need is a bat, and you have to see if a similar package can get you an elite hitter first. By the way, I don’t consider any bat I’ve heard on the market so far to be elite.
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by rxmeister on May 29, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t think the Giants are far enough along, yet, to make the kind of deal for Cantu or Uggla.
The roster defiantly has a lot less holes then the last several years but I think 1-2 more need filling ( or those filling holes not currently problem have to be better) before the squad should be looking to increase short term for medium or longer term. Getting Cantu or Uglla does improves to 83 -84 wins ( I will generously, for discussion sake, say either player adds 4-5 wins) and Giants still do not get into the post season.
In summary this is not the season the Giants should be thinking they are 1 piece away from a playoff run. I am not sure ’10 will be that season either (but I think ’10 will be closer to that). Cantu might even be a free agent next year (Cot’s has him down for 4 years of service time) and Uggla has what one more season before free agency? The team would not reap enough short term gain to a make that worth while yet.
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by daveinexile on Jun 2, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah Crap! I just realized we were talking about Peavy in this branch.
$15 MM in 2010, $16MM in 2011, $17 MM in 2012, either $4MM or$22MM in 2013. I think I would rather risk Cain and Tim stay healthy then Peavy will. Not to mention the $15MM should be able to but a better talent upgrade are at least one to fielding positions. I will leave the night mare that the club will not spend much over $90MM -$100MM in payroll alone.
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by daveinexile on Jun 2, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peavy would just suffer the same frustrating 1-0, 2-1 losses that the rest of our staff does.
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by LargeFarva on May 31, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
We still want Carlos Lee?
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by WalrusMan on May 29, 2009 4:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t we have just signed Burrell, Dunn, or Ibanez last off-season if we wanted Carlos Lee still?
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by WalrusMan on May 29, 2009 4:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Can't Stop Thinking About Carlos Lee
by xanthan on May 29, 2009 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The silly season has started early this year.
by Lars The Wanderer on May 29, 2009 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean last yers silly season stoped?
And i missed it?
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by daveinexile on May 29, 2009 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
typical Sabean, calling a team and wasting his time on a player who’s made it clear he won’t waive his no trade clause. With a contract like that, you think a million or two extra is going to change his mind?
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by rxmeister on May 29, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a waste of time to make a phone call?
by tyrannoman on May 29, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course it is. He shouldn’t want Carlos Lee and that contract in the first place. He should be thankful Lee turned him down a couple of years ago.
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by rxmeister on May 29, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying I want him, but you never know where conversations go. Remember the story behind the Piazza/Sheffield et al trade a few years ago? That started out as a conversation between the marketing department (I think).
by tyrannoman on May 29, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1000000000000000000000000000000000
ever since Dunn said he never got a call, I’ve been totally mystified. Rather than just signing someone, you’re going to now assume the big salary, plus give up players to do it? Or to rent a player? Wow.
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by natteringnabob on May 29, 2009 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep saying this, but it’s not what the average, reactionary fan wants to hear. (Which is why we all come here to assure ourselves that not everyone is a nitwit.) One bat will just provide that one batter a lot of walks, great obp… not so much anything else.
by Merope on May 29, 2009 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not really true. Adding a good hitter always helps, no matter how bad the rest of the lineup is.
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely. It also gets Bengie out of the cleanup spot. When Bengie is hot we can live with it, but when he’s not, (like now) his slowness and lack of on base skills is going to ruin every rally you have. They have to get him out of that spot.
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by rxmeister on May 29, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adding one batter to this team will not help.
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by Lyle on May 29, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long have we been saying this? Couldn’t we have added two batters by now?
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by ResDog on May 29, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it will.
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just not enough to make a WS contender out of them.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 29, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously not, but that’s something else. Both the claim that “one bat will just provide that one batter a lot of walks”, and the assumption that those walks won’t help us score more runs are false. That’s all I’m saying.
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+762
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by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not disagree.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 29, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly you don’t remember Barry Bonds. With him in that #3 spot, the entire lineup looks much more dangerous.
by quincy0191 on May 29, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we could have sprinked magic pixie dust and transformed Ishi into Pujols, I think we’d have a much better team.
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by Goofus on May 31, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. It’s why I also don’t understand the talk about trading for Cabrera, since we didn’t even try to sign Teixeira in the off-season. He’s a bit more expensive, but we’d get to keep Cain and Alderson or whatever it is that Detroit would want for him, which is definitely worth it.
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Texeria made it very clear he wasn’t going to sign with a west coast team. Unless the Giants’ blew the Yankees offer out of the water, he was headed to the East Coast.
by tyrannoman on May 29, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did?
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he did. He gave the Angels enough hope to offer him a huge amount of money, then turned his gaze towards New York or Washington. He’s from Baltimore, so it makes sense he’d want to play closer to home.
by tyrannoman on May 29, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link?
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll try to dig it up. I was trying earlier and couldn’t find it.
by tyrannoman on May 29, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have read this article. I am now linked to Peavy!
by Lars The Wanderer on May 29, 2009 6:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would definitely not trade Lars for Jake Peavy even up. They would have to throw in Adrian Gonzalez and Scott Hairston. And Hairston would immediately be shipped to Augusta where he would play the rest of his career.
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by rxmeister on May 29, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s an abomination for Hairston to even be anywhere on this planet. Having him in the org is just a crime against humanity.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But we have a long history of signing Giant killers
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by ThrillisGone22 on May 30, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would trade Lars for some pie. Sorry Lars.
by xanthan on May 29, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would be getting a deal!
by Lars The Wanderer on May 29, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good idea
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by ResDog on May 29, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One boob for each of us!!
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by rxmeister on May 29, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was aiting for more! Stupid GIF!
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that’s from Ugly Betty on ABC. You ain’t getting more than that on a major network.
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by rxmeister on May 29, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?! Resdog linked to Hayek?!
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by Goofus on May 29, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd offer
Sanchez, Alderson, Tanner, and Martinez
That could be enough to get it done really, given the huge salary we’d be taking.
4 Cy Young winners of this decade in one rotation would be cool (even though one of those guys needs to give his back).
It’ll never happen, and it’s not really our problem anyway, but an upgrade is an upgrade. Lincecum, Peavy, Johnson, Cain, Zito
Not bad
by NeifiChicken on May 29, 2009 9:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Zito didn’t deserve his Cy Young?
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by marcello on May 29, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see an argument for Lowe too, though. It should have been one of the two Red Sox.
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by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2002 AL ERA+/Innings Pitched
Zito: 158/229.1
Pedro: 202/199.1
Lowe: 177/219.2
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by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Natto on May 29, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ERA + ?
Really? That’s just ERA relative to league average.
Not an especially great indicator of true talent level.
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like ERA+ in this case because it helps to equalize Fenway vs. the Coliseum, and because it is simple. What would you suggest instead?
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by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? That’s just ERA relative to league average.
What. But isn’t that the point — how much better than league average this guys were?
by xanthan on May 29, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, true level talent really doesn’t have anything to do with a single season award like the Cy Young. It’s about who had the best season in that year.
by xanthan on May 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AHHH
Can’t have it both ways.
Saber crowd will argue all damn day long that ERA and WINS are poor stats to evaluate a pitcher by because they are results based, and many of those results are out of the pitchers control.
ERA + falls into that category. Now if you want to say that a single season award should be results based, then ERA is a perfectly good stat to use.
But last year everyone was all up at arms about Lincecum V. Santana ‘cause Tim’s FIP was over a full run lower than Santana’s, despite Santana having a lower ERA (and hence, a higher ERA+).
Everyone on this site said that Tim should win because he had pitched better, even tho the results had been about the same.
Now, without looking at the respective FIP’s etc for the year in question, I don’t know if it would change anything – but my point is I’m suprirsed to see someone from this somewhat saber friendly sight making an arguement that Zito didn’t deserve his Cy based on his ERA+ that year
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum had a higher ERA + than Johan last year. By one point.
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by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is my point...
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I don’t understand this part of it then. Lincecum had the slightly better better ERA+ (results) AND the better FIP (talent). Where is the controversy?
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by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Higher ERA+ = Better ERA+, correct?
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by rotorueter on May 29, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Er, wait, that's not my point
Id idn’t look up ERA +.
My point is, ERA + is a results based stat. FIP isn’t.
Many on here argued that, while Lincecum and Santana had nearly identical ERA (results), Lincecum’s FIP was nearly a run lower than Santana. Translation, Lincecum pitched much better than Santana, Santana just got lucky w/ the results.
So for that same crowd to then flip around and argue that, because Pedro Martinez had a better ERA (results) than Barry Zito in 2002 he deserved the cy young more is a little weird.
Again, I haven’t looked at their FIP’s (and really, Zito has been shown to out perform FIP consistently anyway) but the whole premise of using FIP to judge a cy young one year and the ERA another is inconsistent and dumb.
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And fail
how you can argue that Zito at any point in his life (except perhaps now) had a higher level of talent than Pedro? Pedro’s FIP was more than a run and a half lower than Zito in ‘02, and you’re contradicting yourself by saying Zito consistently outperforms FIP (he is consistently better than he is talented?).
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by hazel on May 30, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
by FairweatherFan on Jun 1, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It always bugs me when people put ERA in the same category as wins and saves. ERA is a good stat. It’s remarkably good when you consider how long it’s been around. It’s just not enough.
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no no no
WINS are bad not because that are “results based” but because they are teammate dependent.
ERA is bad, not because it’s results based, but because it doesn’t count errors, and it’s park dependent (and also doesn’t count innings, but ERA+ same thing… you obv. have to use innings)
I think you could use FIP in an award argument IF THE ERA+/IP stats (results) were equal – like a tie breaker.
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by zenbitz on May 29, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ERA needs to be "offensive level" adjusted
not just park. Clarifiying. A 3.00 ERA in 2009 is not the same as 1968, even in a neutral park.
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by zenbitz on May 29, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Doesn’t ERA+ do this? Since it’s based on the league average ERA for that year?
by xanthan on May 29, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah course
I was just elaborating on my comment about “ERA needs to be park adjusted”.
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by zenbitz on May 29, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cy young (or MVP)
should not be awarded for talent level but for performance. RA+ would be better, I agree. If you have a perfect method to separate out defensive contributions, I would use that too… but I don’t think FIP etc. is good for award picks.
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by zenbitz on May 29, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the camp
That Pedro should’ve won every year from 97-03
by NeifiChicken on May 29, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
other than ’01 of course where he was hurt
by NeifiChicken on May 29, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should have won Comeback Player of the Year!
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just sayin'....
Peavy lifetime vs LA Dodgers: 13-2 2.27 ERA
And a future rotation of Lincecum, Peavy, Cain, Mad Bum, Zito….
by Hobbes2d on May 29, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cause we all know how awesome lifetimes stats v. a team
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by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you just linked Jake Peavy to beating the Dodgers
therefore it is so!
by FluLikeSymptoms on May 29, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG
And a future rotation of Lincecum, Peavy, Cain, Mad Bum, Zito….
But that’s a net loss of Cy Young awards!
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by ThrillisGone22 on May 30, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think if we traded for Peavy it would be to move Cain for real bat.
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by Goofus on May 29, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Right,
And in that sense, it’s an entirely lateral move.
And frankly I’d rather keep Cain.
Sanchez + for Peavy so you can trade Cain for bat is completely lateral to Sanchez + for a bat and keep Cain.
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe Sabes could use his superior negotiating skillz to trade Peavy for more worth than Sanchez+
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by Useful_Idiot on May 29, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wont happen
Peavy wants to play for west coast team and Giants are on the west coast. Only connection
by ACgiant97 on May 29, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what sucks
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Having to pencil in Zito into the rotation bullpen whenever someone rosterbates D:
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 1, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how sweet it would be if we could get Peavy with A-Goz
sort of like the marlins unloaded Dontrelle’s contract onto the Tigers with the Cabrera trade. Cain, Sanchez, Ishikawa, Jesus Guzman and Alderson should get it done, no?
by velvadp on May 31, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this is my wet dream
I think it would be more based around Madbum, Alderson, Villalona, not so much Cain.
Cain is only a few years from getting expensive. Probably not what the Padres want. Maybe Sanchez is part of that deal.
No way that goes down, however.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 1, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I need to wash my sheets too
If I’m not mistaken I believe that Gozalez’s contract and Cain’s are very similar and expire at the same time. But the pads will not trade Gonzalez because they have no need to, they might if they can unload Peavy’s contract. You gotta remember that they were willing to trade Peavy for Clayton Richard (WHO?) +3, so they seem pretty damn desperate for money NOW. I’ll agree with you that they would want offense in return and Ishikawa and Guzman are not enough.
Jon Heyman of SI did a story on why the Pads should trade Gonzalez, recently.
link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/05/27/padres.gonzalez/?eref=T1
by velvadp on Jun 1, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uuugh, Eckstien
by FairweatherFan on Jun 1, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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