OT: The great movie watch-off of 2009
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT
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In another post there has been much discussion about the value of animated feature films to an adult. FairweatherFan has thrown down the gauntlet and agreed to watch three films of our choice. The films will be: a Pixar film, a Miyazaki film, and another film that is not from one of those two producers.
He has already chosen Spirited Away as his Miyazaki film.
In this post is a poll to vote on the Pixar film. Also, we shall discuss what the third film should be. In addition to this, BruteSentiment and I have agreed to watch three films of FwFs choosing. I encourage anyone else who wants to participate to join in.
My choice for third film is Bolt. I don't expect this one to get many votes. If you have a suggestion for a film, please check the posts and see if it has been mentioned. If it is a new idea, please post the film title as a subject line and a little bit about it. This way each individual film can be discussed on its merits and things should remain orderly. I will put a few titles that I think may pop up to get things started.
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I did not add Up! to the poll because at this point none of us have seen it. I considered for a moment suggesting that be the Pixar film because it comes out tomorrow and the big screen is the best way to see a film.
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From FairweatherFan:
My contention was not that animated films can’t be funny. Ex: Southpark Movie (fucking hilarious, but didn’t change my life in any way shape or form)
I’m more looking for animated films with social significance. Works of art.
I’m working on my list, and how to separate it so I don’t just list 3 war movies ;
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FairweatherFan, please post your three choices under this thread.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright, this isn't the be-all end all of lists
But here are 3 that I consider to provide interesting commentary on the state of humanity in our world.
City of God
Either Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers (if you have the time/interest for a mini-series)
Munich
Others worthy of mention if the above have already been seen: American History X, Defiance, letters from Iwo Jima.
I realize these were on my list before, but over the last few days nothing else came to mind. I’m sure to be missing something fantastic, however ;)
by FairweatherFan on Jun 1, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should watch this one, since I haven’t seen it, and then tell me whether I should or not.
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by kennv on May 28, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TETSUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KANEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TETSUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KANEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/mutant baby explosion
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t watched Akira in a long-ass time, I really ought to.
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/giant teddy bear bleeding milk
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 29, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KANEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate this.
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t Tetsu from the Ninja Turtles though?
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by WalrusMan on May 28, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by WalrusMan on Jun 1, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody will give a shit but… download the soundtrack and listen to it without watch the film.
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by S.F. Giangst on May 29, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe this one? haven’t seen it, but it might fit FwF’s criteria.
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by kennv on May 28, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is in no way shape or form a children’s movie unless you hate children and if you hate children then maybe this is the movie for you.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These movie is really sad. This is another that is adult themed (with out being XXX), that might be good for FwF search for not-Toy Story artistic expression.
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by kennv on May 28, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did not suggest this one but I should have. It’s so depressing I think my brain just blocked it out.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I am a bit odd and here is one of those cases. I had heard going in how sad it was. I actually found it to be inspiring and the ending happy. Shrug.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see inspiring, which can be a happy ending, but I remember that sad the most.
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by kennv on May 29, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
A billion times
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have no problem with this as #3. It’s a great flick. My question is does it fit in with the “adult” theme?
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
This one’s a good movie
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by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a fantastic film, animated or otherwise
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by The Gene Hackman on May 28, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you tell a bit more about it? I’ve heard it is really twisted and funny.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s french. I wouldn’t describe as twisted or funny, tho it is unconventional and funny at times.
It’s a story about a mom, whose son becomes a pro cyclist. He gets kidnapped/drugged during a race and becomes enslaved in an underground cyling-gambling ring. His mother comes to his rescue aided by the Triplets of Belleville (which triplets are a old jazz manouche singing trio).
Very nostalgic. The music and animation are incredible. I dug it so much i bought it on DVD, but i’ll by just about anything that has to do with cycling…
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by The Gene Hackman on May 29, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The dog in that is awesome.
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by Natto on May 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finding Nemo
is the best pixar film. It’s not particularly close in my estimation.
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by kenshin1 on May 28, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could you explain how you came to this estimate?
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's an objectively better movie...
than everything else they’ve made. If you look at the linear weights and movie value over replacement you will see that only The Incredibles is in the same ballpark.
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by kenshin1 on May 28, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Finding Nemo would be one of the best comedies of our time if it were done with papier mache puppets.
by Grant on May 28, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how bout marionettes?
Team America Style
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by kenshin1 on May 28, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Muppet Movie
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Seagulls
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by oldjacket on May 28, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scene it
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This. It’s between Finding Nemo and Wall-E, but I’m leaning toward Finding Nemo. I’m not sure whether that’s because of who I saw it with (my group of friends vs. my ex), but I’m choosing Finding Nemo right now.
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by WalrusMan on May 28, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finding Nemo was enjoyable
In much the same way Elf is enjoyable. A mix of adult and childrens humor that is worth watching.
Not really “great” however.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like The Incredibles gets left out of this discussion because its a super-hero movie. Thematically, it’s got a lot of the same stuff going on The Dark Knight, but in an arguably deeper yet more accessible way. It’s not my favorite Pixar (FN is), but I still think it’s a better movie than Finding Nemo and nearly the equal of WALL*E.
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by cornball on May 29, 2009 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find Finding Nemo to be relatively standard, all things told. At least from a storytelling perspective. It doesn’t really deviate from the so-called “script” in any significant way. It’s in my bottom three with Cars and A Bugs Life.
Although Dori is hilarious.
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s almost a fishy version of the Hero’s Journey. It’s one of my top faves.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Monsters Inc but now I feel like I should have gone with Wall-E.
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seen
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seen
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it has the highest approval rating any movie has ever gotten at Rotten Tomatoes. I saw it when I was around 9 years old, and fell asleep 15 minutes into it..
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by Cookyman on May 28, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seen
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terribly underrated
Probably in my top three at Pixar.
by otis29 on May 29, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the poll it is starting to look pretty clear that Wall-E will win. I am sure that there will be more votes over the next day or so, but based on the trend it is pretty doubtful that anything will catch up with Wall-E.
Everyone cool with saying that this is the Pixar choice or do you want to hold out in case something weird happens. Also, keep in mind that because he has seen Toy Story and Nemo they fall out of the running by default. I apologize, I should have only put the films he hadn’t seen in the poll. Hindsight…
I say this because it’s possible that more people would have voted for The Incredibles had they known their votes essentially didn’t count. I feel really bad for this.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok calling it
Pixar movie is gonna be Wall-E.
by positiveuphemism on May 30, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seen
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much any Bakshi film is not kid oriented.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the Incredibles
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 28, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That Shitty DragonLance Movie that Poked My Childhood Memories in the Eye
by Grant on May 28, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about netflixing it.
Is it really that awful?
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by Bhaakon on May 28, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worse than you could possibly imagine. After the LOTR movies, I thought, hey, someday those Dragonlance books are going to be made into movies. And I read them 30,000 times in high school — all the guys on the football team did — so maybe I’ll be the screenwriter who gets that gig. I’d have to, you know, become a working screenwriter to make it a reality, but I always had the dream in the back of my mind.
Two six-year-olds with crayons poking out of their butts were involved in the making of this one: one used the crayon to write the script, and the other did all of the animation. Someone bought the rights to the books, spending good coin for the privilege, and this is the result?
Dammit.
by Grant on May 29, 2009 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Six year olds with crayons in their butts. Awesome.
by positiveuphemism on May 29, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I submit a couple movies for consideration: The Emperor’s New Groove and Wallace & Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit. ENG is pretty much a buddy comedy with an atypical Disney protagonist: a sarcastic, irreverent monarch. Characters break the fourth wall and poke fun at themselves all the time. It may not be particularly deep, but it’s great fun. W&C:CotW is a throwback to classic horror films done in fantastic stop-motion animation. It’s very British though, so if you don’t like that kind of humour, you might not be interested.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about ENG
Very enjoyable.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
<3 the bunnies.
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by cheno on May 29, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace & Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
seconded
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by UnleashTheGore on May 28, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how has noone else mentioned these 2
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 29, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did…
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by Natto on May 30, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something worth mentioning
My contention was not that animated films can’t be funny. Ex: Southpark Movie (fucking hilarious, but didn’t change my life in any way shape or form)
I’m more looking for animated films with social significance. Works of art.
I’m working on my list, and how to separate it so I don’t just list 3 war movies ;)
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I suppose you have differing ideas on what art is then.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point, natto
Is not that animated films are entirely worthless. The argument originally was rooted in whether or not an animated film would ever win best picture.
Animated films can certainly be entertaining, humorous, etc. I’m arguing that they have yet to transcend the socially significant threshold that one would HOPE is at least somehow loosely associated with accolades like best picture.
So if you think you’ve got an animated film that does so – let’s see it.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we’ve already listed some of them like Wall-E, Persepolis, and Akira.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you have the stigma that animated films can’t be worthy enough to be “Best Picture” worthy.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think it is fair to say that it is harder for an animated picture to reach that upper echelon due to the lack of real humans to connect with. I don’t think animation has reached a point where it is able to convey what Alec Guiness does at the end of Bridge on the River Kwai.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good point
And I think this is a large part of it.
Additionally, this may be more true for certain audiences. Some people have more trouble identifying with imaginary, exaggerated characters, of which animation consists 100%. I’m squarely in this group. I also don’t play video games or other fantasy imagination type of things, so this isn’t surprising.
Other people, due to their life experience and interests, are perhaps more able to identify with an animated fish and make some real connection/parallel to their own life. Those people are more likely to think of certain animated films as “great”.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is why Wall-e, the character, is so loved. His vocabulary is severely limited but somehow they made him incredibly human. He’s human in a way that anyone can understand and empathize with.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
Bridge on the River Kwai has been universally panned by historians and survivors alike, which makes it kinda hard for me to embrace.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really think of it as being about the war at all.
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by oldjacket on May 28, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course a mass media movie on that topic will be more fiction then fact (or science). Just like there is very little out there about G.I.’s that survived Bataan and Corregidor. To try and do it justice the movie would have to be more like Penn’s The Thin Red Line which most ly happens on Guadalcanal (another brutal chapter in WWII most people now days over look). A lot of people I know hated The Tin Red Line mainly because it was not an escape flick or straight shot ‘em up. To do the topic right the watcher has to be willing to look at some amazingly uncomfortable truths and most are not. Funny thing though is people, in general, tend to be a little more willing to look at those uncomfortable truths when it is an animation.
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by daveinexile on May 29, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't love the Thin Red LIne
But I appreciated it. I realized it was restricted by history…
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I have the stigma
That the culmination of factors that lead someone to create an animated film is not without consequences, and those consequences tend to result in a certain type of film.
Sure, if one re-created the storyline from Band of Brothers in animation, it would carry much of the same message.
But the person motivated to produce band of brothers isn’t likely to choose animation to convey that message for numerous reasons.
Selection Bias.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll admit I’m definitely biased since I am an animator, so I’ve watched and studied a ridiculous amount of animated films. I watch a lot of live-action films too, so I do maintain some sort of balance with my visual media. I don’t come across a lot of people who don’t like Pixar though.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is your favorite pixar movie?
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by kenshin1 on May 28, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on my mood
Right now it’s Ratatouille
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't get that movie...
I loved The incredibles and Finding Nemo and liked Cars. Ratatouille felt far more puerile and boring than the other ones.
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by kenshin1 on May 28, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re just weird.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
I get the “it’s a shame when they are hooked on crack at such a young age” look pretty much everytime I tell people that I don’t like Ratatouille
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by kenshin1 on May 28, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At first I had a hard time with it because I was expecting a Nemo-styled Pixar movie (with a joke every 5 seconds). But Ratatouille is more in the style of 90’s era Pixar (Toy Story 1 and 2, Bug’s Life) – a pretty funny film, but one that doesn’t feel a need to make the audience laugh every few seconds, leaving more room for the plot.
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by Cookyman on May 28, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ratatouille has a lot going on when you work hard to read the movie, and it’s extremely worthwhile from a sort of literary point of view. The more accessible parts of the story aren’t as enjoyable. I actually don’t like the main character very much in that movie. Remy bothers me. And that’s just one (very glaring) example. But there’s so much going on around and within that I still find it to be extremely rewarding.
Plus, as I’ve said many a time, I really think that it “completes” The Incredibles in a very thoughtful and satisfying way.
It doesn’t hurt that it’s so darn pwetty either.
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this whole “certain type of person” thing is a very dangerous and limiting sort of step to take here.
I think it’s more likely that the culmination of factors which have led to which animated films have become financial successes is not without consequences, and those consequences tend to dictate what types of animated films are typically allowed to be made.
Because, remember, it is expensive to make one of these movies. It takes eons more time than a live-action film to create and uses a heck of a lot of man-hours and resources to put together. And that applies to crappy animated movies too, which isn’t necessaily the case with live-action ventures.
Studis are much less likely to put their resources into an animated movie that doesn’t have a money-making precedent. It’s one of the reasons that Pixar almost never made it past the first few months of existence to begin with.
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by howtheyscored on May 29, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, I'm just encouraging the decision making process
I’m gonna end up watching 3 of these damn movies :)
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you get to see Wall-E for the first time (most likely). I am so jealous.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you could name 5 criteria that make a best picture, or 4 or whatever…what would they be? This might help to choose something appropriate.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a difficult thing to do
I’ll think about it
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s kinda of funny that Beauty and the Beast hasn’t come up in this discussion seeing as how it’s the only animated film to ever be nominated for Best Picture and only lost to one of the great Oscar juggernauts of all time (Silence of the Lambs: all five major Oscars!). Many critics felt – and feel – that it was good enough to have won most years. Granted, it is a standard Disney animated kids flick. It’s still one of the top-five animated movies of all. I watched it again a few months ago and what really stands out is the writing. The songs are genuinely hilarious and the central characters are incredibly realistic for a Disney movie. I don’t know if it has “social significance”, but then again I think social significance is an arbitrary and silly definition of art.
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by cornball on May 29, 2009 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To quote you: “is is a standard Disney animated kids flick.” You answered your own question.
by positiveuphemism on May 29, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beauty and the Beast is really good, but I don’t think it’s the best Disney film.
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by Natto on May 29, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you could, please post “i have seen this” under anything that is being suggested that you have already seen. It might make things easier. Who knows, though.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re interested in war movies but are skeptical about animation, then Waltz with Bashir needs to be the one.
by Evan on May 28, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not based on DS9's charasmatic doctor is it? :)
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by cornball on May 29, 2009 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So post under the Waltz w/ Bashir section? It does make sense, though.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Watch The Little Match Girl in between movies.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Transformers: The Movie
You know, the animated one from 1986. The one with Orson Wells in his last role. The one with the metal theme song. The one where Optimus Prime dies. The one with the chase/fight scene set to Weird Al’s “Dare to be Stupid.”
Yeah. That one is socially significant.
(just kidding)
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YOU'VE GOT THE TOUCH
YOU’VE GOT THE POOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
YEAH!!!!!!!
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/nine-year-old mind is blown after robot swears
by Grant on May 28, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upon seeing that for the first time
It was actually a pretty altering experience in my youth. That movie is pretty rough. The scene on the shuttle at the beginning where the wounded autobot clings to Megatron’s leg and Megatron looks down and shoots him at point blank range is really grim for a kids’ movie.
Also, the smoke coming out of dying autobots eyes and mouth.
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by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still cry when Optimus dies.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(not true)
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I imagined that!
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by merkin on May 28, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Persepolis is good but really sad and depressing.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Persepolis and (in a way) Sin City are examples of artists choosing a non-traditional film medium in order to capture something about the work, that regular live action wouldn’t have.
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by kennv on May 28, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pixar is ridiculously good at making movies
Ratatouille
The Incredibles
Toy Story 1 and 2
are all very, very good movies along with the other Pixar films (besides Cars which sucked). I’m really looking forward to the new one, Up, which comes out tomorrow.
by TimLincecumIsGod on May 28, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fern Gully
A Muppet’s Christmas Carol
The Rescuers Down Under
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by SneakToBetterSeats on May 28, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a big list of Movies I Need To See
Including but not limited to:
1. Pulp Fiction
2. A Christmas Story
3. Night at the Roxbury
4. Fight Club
5. Wall-E
6. Blues Brothers
and others im forgetting
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 28, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If we can change the Miyazaki film...
I thought Howl’s Moving Castle was vastly superior to Spirited Away…
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by rhys on May 28, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think so too but it’s more of the Western fantasy bent and apparently that’s yucky.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bleh. Howl’s was a huge disappointment. Mind you, I had read the book twice beforehand, once a few months before the film came out here in the states. Reading the book was the second time was so exciting. It was like the book was made for Miyazaki. Then he added a bunch of crap that just ruined it. It needed zero changes and he added a bunch of war BS. Bleh.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never read the book, but I’ve heard many fans of the book say that the movie was not as good.
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually kind of struggle with Miyazaki on the whole… there’s something almost… arbitrary… about the way that some of his movies (including both Howl’s and Spirited) progress. The imagination is unbounded, which is a good thing, but in some isolated cases it isn’t given structure, which bothers me.
His signature character design also feels very old-fashioned to me (in the newer movies… in the older ones it was clearly just regular fashioned). Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but I also find it to be kind of limiting.
And I’m not trying to knock the films exactly, I’m just trying to voice things about them that troubled me.
In this case, I actually think that Satoshi Kon is a better place to go than Miyazaki as long as we’re picking Japanese animated movies of note to have FWF watch. Perhaps not as fantastic as Miyazaki, but equally as unbounded and, imho, significantly more structured and sophisticated.
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by howtheyscored on May 29, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Spirited Away is a good start, it was my 1st. Satoshi Kon’s movies have some serious wtf element to it, and the end of howls had that as well.
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 29, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m in the same boat as FWF here. I’ve seen most Pixar films and I really don’t understand the hubbub. No doubt, the films can be fun and humorous but I certainly don’t think any of them have any of significant social value (not that I think they need to) which I think is FWF’s assertion. To me they are what they are, good looking entertainment.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 28, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
See this I absolutely don’t understand. If someone just didn’t like Pixar films, I get that. But they’re certainly about social topics.
The Incredibles is about the tension between egalitarianism and exceptional abilities.
Ratatouille has a similar theme about a person with an exceptional skill who is pulled back by family tradition.
Wall-E , in addition to it’s environmentalist themes is about not accepting a prescribed social role.
And god, hang around a group of older workers for an afternoon and you’ll understand where the inspiration for Toy Story came from.
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by oldjacket on May 28, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Incredibles is about a family of super heroes. Then there is some vague message about “being special”.
Ratatouille is about a Rat that cooks, but I haven’t seen it so I can’t really besmirch its social moral.
Wall-E, is a love story, I think. Although it’s setting in a distopic future where the environment has crashed, and people are not self-reflective at all, makes for an interesting background and set of obstacles.
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by kennv on May 28, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t think that an important part of Wall-E is that he’s been doing his a job for hundreds of years, and then he finally stops when the other robot shows up? Why go to all the trouble of the silent first thirty minutes if not to reinforce the break in his life of the second act?
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by oldjacket on May 28, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know – character development and setting the tone of the film?
I do know that I loved the film. I thought it was very touching, excellently paced, expressed a vision, developed the main characters pretty well, and had its funny and amusing parts along with its very beautiful parts. Great film.
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by kennv on May 28, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you aren’t wrong, but the theme is part of the character development. it’s an organic part of the story.
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by oldjacket on May 29, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you just made me explode. Yup. Definitely exploded. Millions of tiny pieces. Blood everywhere. Just look what you’ve done.
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by howtheyscored on May 29, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry about that.
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by kennv on May 29, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you might be confusing form/topic with theme here. Sure WALL*E is a love story. That’s the form, that’s the topic. But what comes out of the love story? That’s what the movie is really about.
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by cornball on May 29, 2009 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true and good point, and now a mid afternoon rant.
I agree with a lot of the praise that Wall-E gets. It really is about an individual not accepting a prescribed social role, its personal growth and how that inspires others. Of course, OJ was using the term “social topic”, so it makes some sense that I was going down the “topic” route.
But I think others are confusing subplots and throw away lines for some sort of grander theme that gives films some sort of “social significance”. “If everyone is special, no one is” is just a cute line IMO, it’s not Marx or Jefferson or Dewey or Rawls, struggling with the concepts of equality versus variation of natural capabilities. It’s not through the looking glass mind-f$%^ of Paprika. It makes sense in the context of the film and it provides a reason for the guy to be hunting super heroes. I think the fact that Jason Lee wasn’t allowed into the Super Hero life by his hero Coach, serves as the betrayal point in the movie that sends him down the evil path. He wants to kill Mr I because Mr I didn’t accept him. The he comes up with a plan and a catch phrase, based on why he thinks Mr I turned him down.
On the other hand, the problem here is the term “social significance”. Specialness is a theme in the Incredibles. Is it THE THEME? I think it isn’t, but others are free to interpret the film as they see fit, and might even know more about what the director/writer/producer’s intended vision was. But if the main theme was say “family” or “loyalty” instead of “specialness” does that make the film less socially significant? If the message in the movie was “forget this grander debate between equality and capability, and just sit back and enjoy life, stick up for your friends, your colleagues, your family” does that make the film less artistic?
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by kennv on May 29, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Harrison Bergeron-esque theme of The Incredibles is more developed during the middle act than in the climax.
It’s not Marx or Jefferson, but that’s because movies really shouldn’t be that didactic. Conveying a simple point in a simple, emotionally effective way is just as good as writing a sprawling Charlie Kaufman type masterpiece.
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by oldjacket on May 29, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watership Down
I saw it as a child, and I’m still traumatized.
by Louis XVI on May 28, 2009 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
this one
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by oldjacket on May 28, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
book is better.
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not better. Just…less bad.
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of which
other cartoons that traumatized me as a child
All Dogs Go to Heaven
The Land Before Time
Don Bluth >:(
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only recently realized how dark All Dogs Go to Heaven was. Mostly the depiction of Charlie’s descent into hell.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling that if I watched it now, I would be horrified (for a multitude of reasons.)
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wizards
Though I’m not really a fan of it. IMDB
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by kennv on May 28, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You shot Bob! (or something like that)
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fitz?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 29, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does A Scanner Darkly count as animated?
They used live actors and rotoscoping. The scramble suit stuff was what made the rotoscoping technique work in the film, to me.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and Waking Life?
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by kennv on May 28, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They go together as it's the same technique/medium/method
Though Waking Life was pretty friggin dull. Would Sin City and the Spirit count, per this criteria?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
waking life DULL?
and I somehow get banned for dissing Renel.
Dude, you’re losing your intellectual cred.
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by The Gene Hackman on May 29, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
am I half banned then?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say you’re half-baked if i didn’t already know you don’t indulge :-)
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by The Gene Hackman on May 29, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotoscoping hurts my brain.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotoscoping != animation
Animation has animators who create every single motion behind the chracters seen on screen from scratch. Rotoscoping takes filmed actors and overlays snazzy effects on them
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like a cooler version of people who take photographs, throw them through a few Photoshop filters and then post them on DeviantArt as beautiful paintings.
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was a very faithful adaptation of the book, iirc. I read the book two times, as well before seeing the film. Each time was years beforehand so my memory isn’t as clear. Nothing about the film made me feel something was left out or added for no reason.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want to read the book after seeing the movie. I’ve heard the same things you’ve said about it from several others.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah! Battle of five armies, baby. The greatest adventure. I can’t wait for the live action. One of my favorite stories ever.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are we looking for social value in a film?
At the risk of spoiling the party, I can think of few sources of social commentary that I’d trust less than a film. Any points put forth are going to be manipulative, one-sided, and completely contrived. It’s all the things that would make me automatically disregard someone’s argument in real life.
Not to say that I don’t like a film that makes me think, but only insofar as thinking provides entertainment.
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by Bhaakon on May 28, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you look at my failed fanpost a few down and find the derail all will become clear.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Fanpost was a spin-off of a hijack from this one. FairweatherFan dismissed animated movies as nothing more than empty children’s fare. We’re showing him otherwise.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have another off the wall comment that has no place, so I'll put it here
Can some one please explain to me how the fuck Juan Pierre has a .448 wOBA in 130 PA’s this season filling in for Manny Ramierez?
Manny getting suspended so JP gets unblocked might be the best thing that happened to the Dodgers. Bondsian production at the plate +incredible speed + incredible defense.
Jesus.
Oh yeah, and Fuck Casey Blake. Who the hell shot his ass full of B12?
Thanks.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, Yes
But since that SSS happens to occur when MR is out, it essentially negates any deteriment the dodgers would have suffered from his suspension.
Instead of 50 games of Juan Pierre type production, they are getting 50 games of out of this world production (even if Pierre slumps the rest of the time) AND they get to save a third of MR’s salary.
Best thing that has happened to the dodgers all season.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no explanation for pure evil.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by WalrusMan on May 28, 2009 11:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we both agree
This would fall into the mildly entertaining, socially insignificant category.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG< BEST PICTURE
I call this the “broke back mountain” syndrome.
Write a movie that tackles a socially sensitive topic in a head on and in your face way. If people pan it, you can accuse them of bigotry.
Works every time.
I didn’t like brokeback mountain, and it had nothing to do with the dudes being gay. However, if I ever mention in polite company that I didn’t like it I get accused of homophobia.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never watched it because I don’t think I’ll like it. And I don’t really plan on watching it because I don’t think I need to find out that I don’t like it.*
And I’m a fan of Ang Lee’s work. I own The freaking Wedding Banquet, for cying out loud.
- That is a very simplified version. I know it’s a stupid way to say it.
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by howtheyscored on May 29, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOMOPHONE
YOU DON WANNA WATCH IT CUS GUYS R GAY AND IT MAKES U UNCOMFORTABLE
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’d think I’d absolutely love BBM, as it’s gay cowboys in a tragic romance. It’s guys doing each other, tragic romance, and nobody’s happy in the end. That’s like every piece of fiction I’ve ever written.
I didn’t love it. I liked it, and I thought parts of it were very good. Overall I guess I was disappointed because it was built up so much for me. I won’t lie, though; the final scene was really sad.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It had some great moments
And beautiful scenes, but there were a few parts of it that, for me, pretty much screwed the whole movie.
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest one
As a guy, I can tell you that going from Manly Cowboy to butfucckin in about 3 seconds is not exactly credible.
The first time you do anything new it’s a tentative and akward process (kissing a girl, having sex w/ a girl for the first time, etc).
Those two guys (especially Ledgers character, I got the feeling that wasn’t Jake’s first rodeo) existed in a wolrd where Gay wasn’t okay, and it wasn’t something that you sat around contemplating that you might be.
Given that they grew up in this world, acting on a gay sexual impulse for the first time would certainly not be something to be taken lightly, or happen so fast. How many strait men lost their virginity so rapidly? From one minute laying in bed w/ the girl to the next being ball-deep.
And that’s in a society where we are conditioned all our lives to think that is okay, where we build up and look forward to that moment. To think that in a soceity where gay wasn’t even an option a guy would go from laying next to a dude to bending him over like an old pro in literally 20 seconds is, in my opinion, completely ridiculous.
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, I didn't phrase that all very wel
but I hope my point kinda wiggled through. They wen’t from strait to gay WAY to easily and rapidly to be believable.
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did not agree with how quickly they went from indifferent towards each other to screwing to in love. I knew it had to be sped up for the sake of the film, but I’m with you. It went too fast to be a really believable thing especially for a first time.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
word
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time travel is of great social significance.
It’s coming.
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by Bhaakon on May 28, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or has it already?
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know something that I don't? Perhaps about your ancestry?
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by Bhaakon on May 29, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i liked Family Guy more the first time I saw it
when it was called the simpsons
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by GameSix on May 29, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cold.
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by S.F. Giangst on May 29, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you do that line a lot.
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by oldjacket on May 29, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE IT’S TRUE
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by Natto on May 29, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m actually david spade
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by GameSix on May 29, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am i the only one who wasn't that big a fan of Wall-E?
I mean i didn’t dislike it but couldn’t help but be uninspired by it & don’t really see why it’s so popular. I’ll have to watch it & give it another go, but it’d be quite far down the list for me at the moment.
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by GiantFan on May 29, 2009 4:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Am i the only one who wasn't that big a fan of Wall-E? "
Yeah you are. That movie was Best Picture nom-worthy. Certainly over Benjamin Forest Button Gump.
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by GameSix on May 29, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the real key with Wall-E is whether you connect him him or not. If you do, the movie is the greatest thing ever. If you don’t, it’s 90 minutes or incredible animation.
by positiveuphemism on May 29, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if ninja scroll isnt on this list then the list is communist-tsaoist-pwnist crap
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by Headhunter Rollins on May 29, 2009 7:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FWF said we need to keep the anime to a minimum
And Miyazaki beats Ninja Scroll by a long-shot.
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by howtheyscored on May 29, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would actually suggest Princess Mononoke as the Miyazaki, considering FwF’s stated taste.
by thethrillisgone on May 29, 2009 10:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Incredibles
You can’t really go wrong with Pixar, except for Cars IMO. I’d rate them:
Incredibles
Ratatouille
Bug’s Life
Wall-E
Monsters, Inc.
Finding Nemo
Toy Story 1 & 2
Cars
But honestly, they are all terrific (except for Cars – for some reason that felt more like a Dreamworks film).
by otis29 on May 29, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On a related note...
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by Natto on May 29, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Woo hoo!
I hadn’t heard they were even thinking about this. Would love to see a sequel to Incredibles and Monsters, Inc. as well.
by otis29 on May 29, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you’re ready for a sequel to Cars because it’s coming. D:
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by Natto on May 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
!!!!!
!!!!!
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Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 29, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s always Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” – which doesn’t hold up like I thought it would
I"Who Framed Roger Rabbit" is at least as good as most Pixar movies if only because it was a little more adult than most disney films, to wit:
I would have been here sooner, but I had to shake the weasels
one of my favorite lines ever
"You ask for game winning hits, I give you Eugenio Velez"
by The Gene Hackman on May 29, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Wall is extremely entertaining but I don’t think I’d call it good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on May 29, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or animated, really.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on May 29, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Roger Rabbit. I don’t see how it applies in this situation, though. Adult jokes do not make for Adult themes/social commentary/whatever.
by positiveuphemism on May 29, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s where you’re dead wrong again, PE.
That movie hipped a lot of young folks to the Evil Auto Industry, and how, In Los Angeles in particular, the Big Three Auto Manufacturers conspired to rid LA of its environmentally friendly Commuter Rail system.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasles"
by The Gene Hackman on May 29, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
repeat for nation, as super highways replace rail.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on May 30, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you are saying but that was not the theme of the film, rather a small subplot.
by positiveuphemism on May 30, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never got into the Wall. Meh.
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by WalrusMan on Jun 1, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
too much misdirected misogyny
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Jun 1, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw Up last night, and it was fantastic! It has plenty of laughs and lighthearted moments, but there are a few serious themese that kids definitely wouldn’t understand. I’m going to avoid talking about it further until others have had a chance to see it, but it’s very much worth your time.
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by Natto on May 30, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Which two Pixar movies does it rate between?
The artist formerly known as Set-up man
by CB30 on May 30, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s always difficult for me to rank Pixar movies, but my initial impression is that it’s on par with Ratatouille.
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by Natto on May 30, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was fantastic
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on May 31, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wall-E
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by Natto on Jun 1, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep…see above. ^ under the Wall-E heading.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 1, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh…for movie #3? There isn’t a real general consensus but Waltz w/ Bashir and Penelope seem to be in the vein you are looking for and aren’t getting arguments against. Go ahead and choose between the two yourself. I have seen neither so can not make a recommendation other than I’ve heard more good about Penelope than Bashir.
For the people who have seen Bashir, is that rotoscoped? It looks kind of like it to me from the brief clips I have seen. If so, then it is out.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 1, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has a rotoscopey look, but it’s actual animation.
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