I have an idea, but it won't be easy
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 2:07 PM PDT
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I wonder, how many of you would be willing to fully boycott the Giants. No more watching games. No more radio. No more reading anything on the net (except this site which would be a HQ.) No more spending a dime on merchandise or game tickets or anything. Some of you may already see where I am heading so for the others I will get there fairly quickly.
Perhaps it is far-fetched, but we, the fan base, have a lot of power. It would take a lot of work, but who would be willing to completely boycott the Giants and encourage others to do so, as well.
The goal would be to make a financial impact on the team with a unified front DEMANDING the immediate firing of Bruce Bochy and the coaching staff along with Sabean. Even though our GM has overseen a few nice drafts in a row, I suspect it is more the people under him that did such a good job. In any case, it is clear we need to move in a new direction.
Now there are some that say the future looks good, and this is true. It is also true that for years it has been clear what needed to be done and Sabean did not do it. We went into the offseason with one main need: offense. We got an over the hill SS. That's it. True, it wasn't the best free agent class, but there were solutions out there.
Perhaps this is a frustrated pipe dream. Perhaps not. I do know that every day I live in fear that Sabean will do something stupid. In my mind, this would require hundreds of people to write individual letters to the team specifiying exactly why they are unhappy and stating clearly that no more money will be coming from that source.
Before anyone posts all the negatives to this. Namely the fact that it is incredibly difficult to organize a protest of this nature or the fact that the team won't care if they only get a few complaints because the advertisers will still be paying them and it would take a while before any sort of impact would be felt. Really, if only 1000 people did this it would barely nudge the bottom line.
Ultimately, the reason the team is here is because the fans pay for it. If enough people made a stink it might cause waves. I do believe that if 1000 people wrote letters to the team that would have an impact.
It's a romantic notion and essentially a waste of time as baseball is a luxury but yeah. It's been running through my mind for a while and wonder what other people think. Please post your comments, thoughts, ridicule, baking ideas, and even arguments against my idea. I'd really love to hear some pro-Bochy, pro-coaching staff arguments...if there are any.
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Baseball is a drug
And I’m a junkie.
Ain’t gonna happen.
by kaliber on May 27, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this
Plus paying attention to the Giants is sort of in my job description, I kind of can’t boycott.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
well it isn’t my job description, but it might as well be.
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by Aadik on May 27, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here
that’s how I spend my time at work, anyway.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not going happen. I live out of state and I still watch about 140 games a year. As much as dislike Bochy, I like the Giants more. Win or Lose.
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by nvsfg on May 27, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After reading all the posts so far, this one seems to be the most true.
No one wants to give up their love. That’s only natural.
I do think that the responses are indicative of the state of our democracy and how for the most part, people feel like they have no influence over those in power. I’m not really surprised. Especially since baseball is a nice distraction from that very distinct lack of power that most of us feel.
It would probably be better to use that energy to make a positive effect on something that really mattered.
Thanks for the healthy dose of sobriety.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think that the responses are indicative of the state of our democracy
ok, let’s go easy on taking what happens on a baseball blog as indicative of anything big.
by FluLikeSymptoms on May 27, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true. It is also true that, for many of the people on this site, if they felt they truly had the power to get rid of Bochy or Sabean, they would. Unfortunately many people feel powerless to the extent they don’t even consider that they could potentially have a major impact.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re overestimating the number of people who want to get rid of Bochy and Sabean.
by cakes on May 27, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need a poll
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What else am I supposd to do from April to September…(In the Giants case until May!!)
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by Mordy From Monsey on May 27, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
Sad but true. No matter who wears the uniform and who is running the team, I can’t quit them.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on May 28, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Bochy
I’m pretty indifferent about the others, and I don’t dislike Bochy more than I like watching/listening to the Giants, so, no.
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by Viliphied on May 27, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t dislike Bochy more than I like watching/listening to the Giants
But man are there times for me where that gap is not as large as it should be.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 27, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bochy is nothing more than a Melon head....
If I want to watch Melons, I’d rather watch the pair that Pamela has
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by Mordy From Monsey on May 27, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/bows down.
We’re not worthy. We’re not worthy.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on May 28, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty hopeful for the future of this ballclub. Sabes’ contract is expiring soon, Bochy won’t be around for much longer, and the minor leagues are fairly well-stocked. I’m pretty “meh” right now about them—definitely not passionate enough to boycott.
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by Chulk on May 27, 2009 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This
Is a stupid idea
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 27, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
No
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by Scottsdale on May 27, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fail
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
However
IF Sabean trades Cain for Sheffield, I’m right there with you.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
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by groug on May 27, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you set an example
and get started? The rest of us will be right behind you!
by jctGamer on May 27, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no fucking way.
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t do that, nor do I want to
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is horrible, this idea.
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by marcello on May 27, 2009 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Despite the picture fail I still got the ref. <3 Office Space.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMMIT
Stupid tripod.
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by marcello on May 27, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a ……. jump to conclusions mat
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tripod is horrible!
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should see what the folks over at DailyKos think of this idea. This seems like their kind of thing.
by FluLikeSymptoms on May 27, 2009 2:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW
This happens all of the time in sports. Boycotting a team is generally called becoming a fan of another team.
If your local team does things that piss you off sooo bad, then root for another team.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They could never piss me off so bad, but this isnt an invitation for them to try
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sort of tried to become a Kings fan after the Warriors traded Antawn Jamison for Nick Van Exel, Avery Johnson and co. It was pretty much impossible for me to root for another hoops team, even one that was much better.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on May 27, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you are saying the A’s fan base has been protesting for 15 years?
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by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve had a week off from the Giants, and let me tell you, I miss Bruce Bochy.
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by ResDog on May 27, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What has the coaching staff done to you?
Also, really? You really think that most GM’s out there would have managed to make our offense much better this offseason? Also this is just untrue:
We went into the offseason with one main need: offense
That is, unless you think that we should have gone with a 4 man rotation.
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:-(
by Cookyman on May 27, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also:
A bullpen full of arsonists
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, this team went into the off season
With a couple good starting pitchers and a few position role players.
Everything else qualified as a need.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One need: people who play baseball.
About 20 of them.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and decide not to upgrade the bullpen
by tyrannoman on May 27, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, now that that idea has been summarily rejected, let’s hear your next one.
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by Goofus on May 27, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was the groupthink
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boycott with your wallet
When i moved back to SF in 97 i went to a lot of games… maybe 20 to 25 games a year. The past few years my average is down to 1 to 3 games a year. Ever since the Giants FO decided not give Bonds any protection in the lineup i have been “protesting” by not giving them my hard earned money. I watch on TV and Radio, but as long as I don’t patronize their sponsors, they don’t get a dime from me.
It’s working too. Just look at the offense now1
My buddy and I were at the game last night. We were seriously wondering what kind of protest it would take to get rid of the wretched Renel, but I digress…
A letter writing campaign is a great idea, but i have a funny feeling Sabean can’t read.
"You ask for game winning hits, I give you Eugenio Velez"
by The Gene Hackman on May 27, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“We were seriously wondering what kind of protest it would take to get rid of the wretched Renel”
Giants blasphemy.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both of you have been banned.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 29, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on May 29, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
she's loud, shrill and harsh
AND she sounds like a cheerleader, not a PA announcer.
"You ask for game winning hits, I give you Eugenio Velez"
by The Gene Hackman on May 29, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thread derail
Will Up get oscar respect beyond “animated feature?”
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm so sick of these animated movies
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry you have no soul or joy :(
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have plenty of soul and joy
It exists in flesh and blood, not pixels.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mostly my own blood
after injuring myself doing something I enjoy
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you’re so hardcore!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on May 27, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:)
i forgot the smiley in there
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Potato Head: “Hey , Ham – I’m Picasso!”
Piggybank: “I don’t get it.”
Mr. Potato Head: “You uncultured swine!”
(Looks offstage) “What are you lookin’ at , ya hockey puck?”
Camera pans over to an actual armed – and – legged hockey puck , which shruggs its little shoulders in apparent confusion.
The subtle reference to Don Rickles’ (The voice of Potato Head) standup routine is NOT aimed at children there. (I so rolled!)
ALL Pixar movies are animated art with adult overtones because guess what? We’re part of the target audience. If we’re not then why waste time and money creating adult language and references children aren’t going to understand?
You’re not going to get a nation of Pixar lovers to dopeslap themselves and swear off what entertains them simply by stating your indifference.
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by victor frankenstein on May 28, 2009 3:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you actually seen a Pixar film?
They are the company that produced Up and a host of other films aimed at children AND adults.
Snarky mode: off.
What, by your definition, is a great film?
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh here we go
lol.
I’ve seen plenty, if not most pixar films.
Some are cute and humerous.
They are not, however, great.
Why would I subject myself to the instant ridicule of revealing what I think are good films? :) It’s a matter of personal opinion.
You are perfectly welcome to think that films like Up are great. I’m just sick of them.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then don’t go see them?
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't :)
I can still be sick of them and all of the publicity they get.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they’re good. They deserve the pub.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So are the Red Sox
I’m still sick of them
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haters to the left
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
It seems that in the recent political spectrum, Haters are on the right.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are haters on both sides of the spectrum.
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by thehavenot on May 27, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but those on the right hate openly
It’s part of the platform.
Those on the left try to do it a little more discretely.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure it’s so discreet. It’s just more accepted.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on May 27, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is laughable.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/agrees with Fairweather Fan.
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by nvsfg on May 27, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh fuckit who cares
Several Films I’d rate as comfortably above the mendoza line:
Saving Private Ryan
Lock, Stock, 2 Smoking Barrels
City of God
Lost boys of Sudan
American History X
Letters from Iwo Jima
Band of brothers (Mini-series, but still)
Several others that escape me right now.
Munich was good.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love GN&GL.
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, too.
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by Lyle on May 27, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it better the second time.
Very pertinent in today’s political climate.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it. You aren’t into feel-good films. You like war and reality and dirt. I’ve seen four of those films and agree they are all good. None of them made me feel good to be alive, though. That’s why I like Pixar films. I feel they improve my life by experiencing them.
I haven’t seen Lost Boys of Sudan, Letters from Iwo Jima or Munich…so they may be feel-good, but I suspect not.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like movies that make you think
And contemplate your situation in the world.
Buzz Lightyear didn’t really do that for me.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but that was a Saturday morning TV series.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, this makes more sense. Did you see Synecdoche ,NY?
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you might like it. The 2 hours 30 mins of the film are really just an outline so you can spend the next 2 weeks thinking about it.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a big fan of mile wide inch deep films
See: Milk, Harvey.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also see equilibrium, it is an early Christian Bale film
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
It zooms through his life with nary a pause.
One thing to the next.
Oh, look at that – by BF hanged him self. Next scene.
I thought the character development was poor as a result. You didn’t feel like you really got to know any of them.
It was essentially a factual list of events.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the problem with biopics.
Real life people don’t develop in a satisfying way like fictional people do. Also, real life stories aren’t usually as entertaining or sufficiently simplistic for the limitations of the medium.
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by Bhaakon on May 28, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what is stupid tho, now that you mention it
I watched a movie the other night that I didn’t anticipate to be anything other than mildly entertaining but I’ve spent way too much of my idle time contemplating it since then and it’s started to get me wondering.
Lord of War.
Kinda weird. I didn’t even think it was very good watching it but if I’m still thinking about it it must have had something…
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that.
It was horrible and didn’t make me think at all.
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by groug on May 27, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It got lame quick
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was't well acted or anything like that
But I thought the premise was interesting. Truth is that shit is going on, and this world is pretty fucked up when it comes down to it.
Really struck a chord with me, kinda like City of God.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The premise was fine. The movie was not.
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by groug on May 28, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right.
premise was strong enough to get me thinking, despite the movie not being great.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE JARED LETO
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m trying to think of something in movies that was more obvious than Jared Leto dying on the “one last trip” to Africa.
I got nothing.
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by groug on May 28, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did like his coke map of brazil
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i enjoyed it as well
Don’t remember if it was thought-provoking, but it was fun.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 27, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like movies that make you think
And contemplate your situation in the world.
That’s what real life is for.
Getting a legitimate smile that lasts for more than 30 seconds if worth it, whether it comes from a movie, a lover, or anything.
I say this as a filmmaker. I love a good, deep film as well, but there is more than a small place for the things that can make us smile.
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by victor frankenstein on May 28, 2009 3:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best example of an animated movie that makes you think:
Waking Life
imho
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by The Gene Hackman on May 29, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I disagree
I think films like SVPR and Letters from Iwo Jima make a person feel extremely good to be alive.
But in a different way. Grateful to be alive might better describe it.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other than Saving Private Ryan, those are all good, if relentlessly serious.
You’re kinda like the director in Sullivan’s Travels.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hardly ever hear anyone talk about American History X. Not a happy movie (in the traditional sense) , but one of my favorites.
/Edward Norton fan.
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by nvsfg on May 27, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/also and Edward Norton fan
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I as well.
American History X is a fucking fantastic movie.
Not a happy movie because well, Bigotry is not a happy subject involving happy people.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HULK SMASH!
Now that is thought provocking
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s a fantastic movie. very underrated as far as I’m concerned.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love discussing film and just find your attitude towards Pixars films to be odd because they are the most universally loved films I have ever encountered. Everyone has their own taste but to condemn them as soley kids film intrigues me.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wall-e isn’t socially significant?
The importance of human interaction and taking care of the planet were the main themes of that film.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the best animated films, and im not a gigantic fan of pixar
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep hearing this.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I had low expectations, because I didnt want to be fooled by the hype, but it delivered.
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What animated film is "better" than Wall-E?
I can’t think of a single one. There are a few that a fair argument could be made are equals, but better? I just don’t see it.
Spirited Away is the closest I can think of.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Argument could be made for Toy Story
I havent seen Spirtied Away
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madagascar?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please be joking.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he really likes to move it move it?
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that is like crack for all toddlers
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
personally, Ratatoullie. Wall-E had much deeper social issues, but using a rat who likes to cook as a vechile towards growing up and realizing that you have to be tru to yourself are pretty brilliant in my book.
by tyrannoman on May 28, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s Cyrano de Bergerac with rats and food!
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wall-E
was boring to me.
I dig Shrek, Monsters Inc. and Toy Story more.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 28, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first Shrek had some great writing, but the animation and character designs were pretty meh. Shrek 2 was alright, but Shrek 3 was entirely unnecessary. Unfortunately, they’re making more of them. :(
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
Shrek 3 was pretty bad.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeh..
I only liked the first.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 28, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ratatouille has a lot to say about the tension between talent and tradition.
Just because something is playful does not mean it isn’t smart.
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by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ratatouille had two of the grossest scenes I’ve ever seen in a movie…
A huge collection of rats working in a kitchen…
And a huge collection of rats falling through a roof.
I wanted to vomit after that second one. I really liked the movie though. My wife can’t watch it anymore because it makes her sick, both from a disgusting rat perspective, and because she was going through seriously bad early pregnancy sickness at the time.
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by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Die now.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cartoons were originally created for the entertainment of adults. It’s only in the past 20 years or so that they’ve been targeted toward children. Pixar makes movies for people of all ages. They just happen to be animated.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the Super Friends were for adults? You may want to revise the 20 year figure…
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by Johnny Disaster on May 27, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just tossing out a random number, but my point was that cartoons aren’t strictly for kids.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flintstones!
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, two examples don’t stand as an irrefutable counterpoint.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Flintstones was created for a prime-time adult audience. After all, it pretty much started out as an animated version of the Honeymooners.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually have a really hard time thinking of “20 years ago” as anything but the 70s. Even though my age pretty makes that a ridiculous thing for me to think.
But 20 years ago was basically the 90s? Jesus…..
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That blows my mind as well.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should have said 30 years ago.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/stares in horror
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by ResDog on May 28, 2009 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap!
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
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by WalrusMan on May 28, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, one example doesn’t stand as an irrefutable counterpoint.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, because works like Waltz with Bashir, Persepolis, Perfect Blue, Millenium Actress, Tokyo Godfathers, Princess Mononoke, and a hell of a lot of other excellent animated films are for children. Rape, murder, war, stalking, homelesslessn, HIV, dumping babies in the trash, the Islamic Revolution, drug use, the raping of the land, those things are for children, right?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
blah.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly, those names nearly all sound like self indulgent life is so miserable films
Of which I am not a huge fan.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you fail to recognize the examples of animation that aren’t for children and act like a dickhead instead. Good to know.
Tokyo Godfathers is my favorite Christmas film there is. It concerns themes of togetherness, family, belonging, finding your way after you’ve been lost for so long, and the power of love. The characters have to go through hell to find those things. It truly made me appreciate the things I have.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
concerns themes of togetherness, family, belonging, finding your way after you’ve been lost for so long, and the power of love.
Sounds like exactly the type of movie I would get exceedingly bored with.
I didn’t realize not liking your movies made me a dickhead.
We all have different tastes. It’s okay – really.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your passive-aggressive “blah” comment tells me you don’t actually want to look at the examples provided to you. Whether or not those movies are bummer flicks or not has nothing to do with the point at hand. Thus, you’re just being a dick for the sake of it.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:)
Your probably right. I am passing judgment based on a bias against foreign films.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So sad…Akira Kurosawa seems to fit exactly into the mold of films that you like.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fell asleep during Ran. :(
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to like a film
That I can’t understand.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I happen to think that the type of films a person enjoys
Is an extremely lucid window into their personality, and hence their life experience.
My life has been fairly free of strife and personal identity struggle, as such I don’t tend to identify or enjoy films that center around those themes.
I do however tend to fantasize about grandiose human sacrifice and accomplishment, and as such it’s no mystery that the films I enjoy follow that trend.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again this makes me think of Synecdoche, NY.
Brief plot: a playwright is given an infinite amount of funds to create his masterpiece. He spends the rest of his life creating a scale model city in which to tell his story.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, see
I can already project that I wouldn’t like it.
Films that feature ineffective protagonists get on my nerves. Mostly because I don’t like ineffective people.
Those who make poor choices and squander exceptional opportunities piss me off, both in life and on film.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, all of the films in that list that I recognize are foreign. Is Millenium Actress by the guy who did Paprika?
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew the name was familiar. I’ve heard Paprika is a waste of time but his other work is outstanding. I’m guessing Millenium Actress is the one that people praise.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s about right.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paprika is good, but the real problem is that where his films like Perfect Blue and Millenuem Actress play with perception through reality, Paprika pretty much discards reality altogether. It kind of neuters the whole effect. It’s still a good movie, though. It’s just nowhere near as good as the others.
Which also has to have its context, as Milleneum Actress and Tokyo Godfathers are two of my favorite movies period.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Paprika was also Kon’s first adaptation, so his vision is also filtered through the source material. And I’m not sure it’s really a perfect match.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, if you were referring to Dreamworks movies, I would agree with you.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy
You don’t want to get me started.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you start him up baby well he’ll never stop.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Image is too big to post, but yes.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
That is great. And so very true.
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha the animals all look like their voice actor counterparts
/shakes head in wonder
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Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on May 28, 2009 3:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sound like
my wife’s step-father. He’s crotchety and old.
Not to say I think animated flicks need Best Picture consideration, but cartoons are enjoyable.
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by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm merely crotchety and young.
Well, 27.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
27 is still young. But you’ve apparenlty got the blood and soul of a crotchety old man. =)
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by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FAIRWEATHER FAN IS CARL FREDRICKSON!!
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Form doesn’t mean very much. It’s all art.
That said, taste is taste.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly don't have a problem with you not liking animated movies.
Everyone has different tastes, and that’s fine.
What bothers me is the very inaccurate and closed-minded dismissal of them. If that is truly the reason you don’t watch them, I honestly feel bad for you. You are truly missing out on some of the better films being made. To be sure, there are quite a few being made just for children, and most of those which are (and quite a few of those which aren’t) are crap. But there are some truly great ones.
I had this eye-opening with Toy Story; I watched the trailer, rolled my eyes, and wondered just how a six-year old might enjoy such a silly looking film, much less anyone else. But my high school crush asked me to go with her, so of course I went. And I was floored. The truly wonderfully layered story, the incredible character arcs, and a very, very touching story of the loss of innocence (and the regaining of it) is still a movie I can not get enough of.
What I’d suggest is take this group’s suggestions for three truly great animated films, and see if they can change your mind about them. All I’d ask is that you make a good faith effort, and approach them with as open a mind as you can when you watch them.
And, gang, I’m going to set a non-binding rule – If you make three recommendations, only one Pixar film. And only one Miyazaki film. If we’re going to open Fairweather Fan’s mind to these, we need a wide-view.
My suggestions:
Wall•E – This is a hard choice between it and Toy Story. Both seem like such low-concept vehicles that deliver on an emotional and moral level that few Hollywood movies could reach. Wall•E wins out because it is a movie that is truly beautiful as well as touching, and can appeal to even classic film students in how it tells stories with, and without, words. An art ironically lost on many animated film makers these days.
Spirited Away – Maybe not the best of Hayao Miyazaki’s films, but I can’t but Princess Mononoke just because between it and Wall•E, I think one might dismiss me as a lefy-eco-freak. (Note Mononoke became the highest-grossing film in Japanese history of any kind until Titanic happened). Spirited Away is often described as a new age Alice in Wonderland.
Cowboy Bebop – It’s not a movie, strictly, but it’s a wonderfully adult series that people can get into.
My friend Roby is recommending Ratatouille, as that movie is certainly not aimed at kids and helped to a convincing job for her ex, who sounded the same as you.
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by BruteSentiment on May 28, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d agree with both Wall-E and Spirited away. I actually kind of expect those to be nearly universally chosen as they are, IMO, the pinnacles of Pixar and Miyazakis careers to this point. I shy away from Mononoke because it’s pretty grim. Spirited Away is magical.
Also SA is fairly lefty eco-friendly, as well. Just a different aspect of nature.
My third would be Bolt. It is a step above standard kiddie fare. It’s warm and sweet and a lot of fun. A hard film not to like. I could go on and on, but I won’t. I’ll just make that my third vote.
I eagerly anticipate seeing what three films the McCoven chooses.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mononoke is grim but it’s so beautiful. And I recognize that the message is pretty heavy-handed but everything about it is just so good.
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much every Miyazaki film has some sort of ecological slant.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NAUSICAA OF THE VALLEY OF THE WIND
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going to add that FairweatherFan has to agree. I’ll up the ante and volunteer to watch any three films he feels I should watch. To be fair, anyone who supports this watch three flicks thing might want to volunteer, as well.
A caveat..no films like Empire or others that serve no purpose other than to make watching hard.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m in…and I would trust Fairweather to pick films that are truly good. I do like his list above, and would definitely have Saving Private Ryan among my Top 5 films of all time. That’s the thing, out of his list, I’ve seen them all except City of God and the Sudan boys…and the former is for personal reasons.
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by BruteSentiment on May 28, 2009 4:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
City of God
Was a movie that I walked into completely unaware. My GF picked it out because she thought it was something else.
I was entirely unprepared for what is quite possibly one of the most brutal movies I have ever seen. (at least, of one that attempts to be somewhat based in reality)
It also made me think long and hard about humanity, and the state of human struggle. I don’t know if I could watch it again because it is so powerful – much like someone who lived through a traumatic situation would not want to go through it again.
Ironically, I thought blood diamond was pretty good too – despite whatshisfuck.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What three films would you choose for us to watch?
Also, how do you feel about me creating a new fanpost with a poll so we could vote on your Pixar film. You’ve already chosen your Miyazaki. Also in a new thread (or here of course) we could argue for movie #3.
I’ve seen City of God and loved it and would be happy to see it again. But if you name three films I haven’t seen I will watch them all and report back.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still thinking about my list, but the poll sounds like a great idea.
By the way, fucking EPIC hijack, of your own thread nonetheless.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it truly a hijack if it is my own thread? The mystery deepens.
Thanks, by the way. I’ll get a post/poll up sometime today.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New McC strategy
If your fanpost turns out to be lame, hijack it yourself!
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by Goofus on May 28, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lost Boys
Is actually a pretty feel good story, and true – too.
I’ll have to spend some time to think of 3 films, and following on in your theme of diversifying them.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're on
Altho I will say It’s not as if I haven’t seen ANY of these movies.
I’ve seen Toy Story, numerous times. A perfectly good movie – and yes it does amuse me as an adult. I don’t think of it as a major contribution to the arts, but that is just personal opinion. I’ll give Wall-E a try.
Spirited Away has been added to my Netflix.
I’m not going to watch Cowboy Bebop tho. I’m perfectly familiar with it (unfortunately) and all I can say is I do not, under any circumstances, watch anime (for personal reasons, if you like). I’ll gladly watch something else.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should know then...
…that Miyazaki is part of the Japanese school of animation, so whatever is stopping you from watching Anime may stop you from watching that. I will admit, I’m curious, but if it is personal reasons, I won’t press for an explanation. That would be a shame though…a lot of anime is cringe-worthy, especially if you associate it mostly/exclusively with the Pokemon/Sailor Moon range, but there are some truly great ones out there.
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by BruteSentiment on May 28, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW Miyazaki prefers to distance himself from other mainstream anime. I’d say he’s more like early Disney than whatever pops up on TV. Even though he doesn’t animate lip sync.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But really when you think about it, is there such a thing as a bad cock-punching?
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by Goofus on May 28, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cartoons are for children??? Two words: South Park. Two more words: Family Guy. Neither are for children.
by SFGuy on May 29, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Family Guy stopped being for anybody at all a while ago.
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by howtheyscored on May 29, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah this past season was the worst and I’m a fan of the show.
by SFGuy on May 29, 2009 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seeing what it turned into...derail win.
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by BruteSentiment on May 27, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so. Well, I need to see it first.
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there will be an oscar campaign this year. That’s based on nothing but the fact that last year so many people thought Wall-E should have been given at least a nod because it was above and beyond a normal animated film.
Early word is that Up surpasses Wall-E. Rottentomatoes has it at 98%. 42 of 43 recommend it. I can’t wait.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, really?
the previews have not impressed me. here’s hoping I’m wrong.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 27, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are!
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To clarify
I haven’t watched the movie yet, but I did about twenty minutes of it during a panel at Wondercon. Those twenty minutes were packed with so much awesome that I can’t wait to see what else is in store for me in the rest of the movie.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*did see
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WALL-E was the best shot any animated movie has had at a Best Picture Oscar. It was incredible. I’m looking forward to Up and hoping desperately to find a theatre where it’s not being shown in 3-D.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most theatres will have it in 2D. But even with your glasses, you can still see it in 3d, as per my previous post to you.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though Beauty and the Beast came close.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GASTON!
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Give five hurrahs and twelve hip hips!
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one plots like Gaston, takes cheap shots like Gaston, loves to persecute harmless crackpots like Gaston.
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by JRPhillips on May 28, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by BruteSentiment on May 28, 2009 4:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
using the same tune...
No one fakes bunks like Richie, hits double plays like Richie, grows goutees like Richie.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 28, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last night, I had the game on, and Richie comes up to bat. I said to my wife, “He’s going to ground out to an infielder.”
I felt so prophetic when he hit a slow roller to first.
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by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I think...
If Wall•E could not garner even a best picture nomination, I don’t think the Academy is ready. I would’ve nominated Wall•E over either The Reader or Benjamin Button, and honestly, probably Milk.
And I say this as someone who idolizes David Fincher as a director and really wishes he could be as good as him.
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by BruteSentiment on May 27, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. Though I think Wall-E deserved the nomination the trophy, I think it may have opened the door. There are a great number of people who felt it should have a nod. Because of this it is possible that the academy looks at Up a little bit differently.
Also, it is possible that Up will move people even more than Wall-E did.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would want to hope that...
…but I heard that a lot after Beauty and the Beast (another personal fave, but definitely more kid oriented) got its nomination, so I’m jaded.
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by BruteSentiment on May 28, 2009 4:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
I feel less inclined to spend money on tickets when the team sucks.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we never would have guessed.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:)
Just trying to give Posup something other than the 50+ comments of “You idiot” we gave him already
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, your username implies…
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
I’m perfectly content chatting about films, to be honest.
My reason for the post was to see if people thought it was possible for the public to influence the team. The answer was pretty clear. I don’t feel bad at all.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
When a team sucks for a long enough period of time, it financially influences the ownership group.
But I don’t think it’s really possible as some direct effort. If enough people were dissatisfied enough to sign on to something like this, they would already be making their own personal choices not to spend – so it wouldn’t really change things.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if anything, the team’s worrying about public perception is one of the things that have contributed to its lack of success in the last four years.
by cakes on May 27, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possible? Sure.
That wasn’t how I read your post, though…I understood it to be asking if we were willing to boycott, which would mean (a) we though it was possible to influence the team and (b) we were sufficiently agitated about the current situation to do so.
The fact that nobody bought into the whole proposition doesn’t mean they’re rejecting both of those conditions.
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by EliminateMe on May 28, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No more spending a dime on merchandise
Damn… this will make the Rally Monkey available at Marshall’s for $8 a pop… (and they’ll probably make appearances at the Oaktown Mausoleum)
by KrazyKrabMeat on May 27, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you have more chance of getting this idea going in oakland. We love our Giants, even if they need to fire Bochy. Sabes might have one more year, maybe.
by Big Daddy J on May 27, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol… this idea would work in Oakland if the A’s were 10 games ahead in the AL West
by KrazyKrabMeat on May 27, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to damage the team. It will make them poor like the A’s and we can all see how pitiful that situation is.
Bochy’s contract will be up after this season. no one thought we’d seriously contend anyway. It’s difficult to see them bringing him back. as for sabean? he can do more damage than good by making stupid trades.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
About 85% of the things that bug me about Bochy are the same things every MLB manager does.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the team should try a manage by computer approach
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the cat fell asleep on teh double switch button again!
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by ResDog on May 28, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Bochy different than a computer? He manages by the book for the most part with very little creativity.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He just chose the wrong book to manage by.
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by marcello on May 27, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
does that mean Xanthan for manager?
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by Speedforthewin on May 27, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote for this.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by S.F. Giangst on May 28, 2009 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All in fun
Xanthan hands ump the lineup sheet. Ump looks down. Stares at the paper. Looks up at Xanthan. Xanthan stares back at the ump. Ump looks back down to the paper. Sighs. Ump: “Okay, what do the red dots stand for?”
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by ResDog on May 28, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Xanthan's lineup card.
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by WalrusMan on May 28, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This computer card probably pre-dates the vast majority of people’s ages here (it might even be before me).
by SFGuy on May 29, 2009 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+5081
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by S.F. Giangst on May 29, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1101101
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by JRPhillips on May 29, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know at the end of my life, if I am lucky enough to have an actual “death bed”, I’m probably not going to look back on my life and say, “damn, I sure wish I had boycotted those Giants games, I bet that really taught that half a billion dollar corporation a lesson.” I’m probably going to remember the games I went to and the good time I had watching a bunch of meathead jocks run around in circles for my approval. IE life is too short for this shit. Either enjoy it or find something else to pass your time that you would enjoy. Extorting businessmen in order to force them to give me a smidgen more pleasurable memories at the end of my life? Eh…
by satyricrash on May 27, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What should Sabean have done this offseason to improve the offense?
Manny is going to miss half the season and is riddled with steroid-related media. No thanks.
Orlando Hudson/Rafael Furcal? An improvements over Renteria, maybe if healthy, but not much.
Russel Branyan would have been nice, but who really saw that coming?
The thing is, it’s easy to complain about what Sabean did or didn’t do. The team sucks, so we naturally think it’s because of a move he did or didn’t make. But really, the free agent market sucked, and in order to get an impact bat, a player like Cain would have had to been traded. After that, the player would probably not live up to expectations because of the crappy team around him, and then we’d all be pissed off at Sabean for making a move. It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. I, for one, am glad that Sabean did not make any rash moves. It will help weed out who will be possible positional players for when (a) the good prospects are ready to join the big club, and (b) when a good free agent might actually be available.
Be patient is all I can really say in the end.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 27, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Cain gets traded in a typical Sabean short-sighted matter this board is going to explode.
But long term patience, ie: our life times…none of this stuff really matters.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure Sabes has made too many short-sighted trades recently. The most recent short-sighted trade I can think of is Accardo for Hillenbrand and Chulk. Dumb trade made on 7/22/2006. After that, I can’t think of any particularly impactful trades that have been all that short-sighted.
Personally, I thought Sabean’s been making a lot more moves recently with an eye towards the future.
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by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And really, how dumb was it?
What’s Accardo done lately? He had one good year last year but otherwise he’s been no better than Chulk was.
by FairweatherFan on May 28, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
None are doing much right now but it was a trade that didn’t need to be done.
by SFGuy on May 29, 2009 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun fact
Ishikawa’s OPS+ is now 75; Hillenbrand’s OPS+ as a Giant was 74.
So, we traded for a first baseman who ended up being worse than a guy who we got for free and are still complaining about. (And that’s just at the plate, not taking into account Ishikawa’s far superior defense.)
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by EliminateMe on May 29, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
The Giants are doing about as well as most people thought they would (hovering around .500). Most people, before the season started, said that if that happened and the farm system continued to progress (with the performances of guys like Posey, Bumgarner, Alderson, Crawford, Kieschnick, Neal, to a lesser extent, Noonan and Villalona, etc, it has), they’d be happy with it.
Well, it’s happening and everyone’s freaking out.
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
<-- Not freaking out
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you’re just freaking out about Pixar. :)
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THEY’RE SLOWLY CONSUMING EMERYVILLE AND BERKELEY IS NEXT!
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good riddance.
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by S.F. Giangst on May 28, 2009 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOO!
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
-YAH!
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by S.F. Giangst on May 29, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turns out
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by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is
That approach requires patience and fortitude.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 27, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he could have waited awhile before signing Renteria and got a better deal. Or he could have signed Hudson and just moved Burriss to SS. That would have saved some money.
Other than that, I really can’t complain too much about what he did. The market wasn’t that great and the team is severely limited by the Zito and Rowand contracts and its budget (approx. $90M.) The consensus seems to be that those are Magowan’s fault, but Sabes has to take some blame for them. It isn’t as if Magowan told Sabean to overpay by millions.
But I basically agree with you. Those contracts will be with the team for awhile. In the meantime, the stated strategy of the team is to go with youth and sign vets to short term deals as stop-gap measures until the kids arrive. If that’s the plan, then you really can’t complain about the job Sabean is doing. He didn’t make any hasty decision or god-awful trades/signings, which is good. If he is truly building the team for the long run, which is supposedly what a lot of people want, then he really isn’t too bad a job.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My problem with this line of thinking:
If folks are saying Sabes had a decent-to-good off-season because he didn’t handicap future seasons, then folks are also saying that it’s possible to wreck future offseasons by what you do now (or what you’ve done recently).
There are some here, myself included, who believe that Sabe’s ability to acquire a MotA bat is the result of his poor off-seasons in the recent past. Cabrera & Teixeirieaieaieia are names that we might have made a bigger push for, if we hadn’t signed Zito, et c., especially considering that those guys play positions the Giants have the most trouble filling.
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by The Gene Hackman on May 29, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would just like to say I agree with whoever said they didn’t care for Pixar movies.
Yes I get that it makes us evil, bad people. The truly horrible part is that I’d rather be an evil, bad person than be bored for 2 hours.
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by Karlifornia on May 27, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank You
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t get how people like Pixar. I don’t get how people can be bored by them. They’re many things, but the ones I’ve seen haven’t been boring.
I have my own qualms with them (though in general, I really love them) but the films themselves are entertaining.
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can be entertaining
But at the end of the day, I usually feel like I wish I had the 2 hours of my life back.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m proud to say I’ve never felt that. I haven’t seen Cars yet though.
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My daughter is completely infatuated with Lightning McQueen. It’s cute. For me, at first I found the movie tolerable, and now I really enjoy it. I love the underlying story, I really like the characters…
Meanwhile, my brother hates it, mostly because Mater is voiced by Larry the Cable Guy. I guess my point is, you may or may not like it. But I really like it.
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by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cars is my least favorite kind of by a lonshot.
It’s a formula film that’s really made to appeal to people who have a fondness for all that Route 66 stuff. Since I don’t, it was pretty much just a formula film to me.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, made to appeal to JRPhilips’s daughter. Her, and those Route 66 buffs. And JRPhilips.
But that’s it.
For now.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s on. It’s on like Donkey Kong.
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by JRPhillips on May 28, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was cute and fun, but not the best Pixar’s done. I still love Ratatouille and The Incredibles. And of course, Wall-E.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cars is basically crack for 5-year-old boys, in my experience.
Not something I would’ve watched more than once on my own. Certainly not more than twenty times.
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by EliminateMe on May 28, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And once they hit 7 it’s “Cars is for kindergarteners, Dad”
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by ResDog on May 28, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine have never used the "...is for kindergartners" line...
…but they did toss Cars aside for Avatar (which was great) and more recently for Scooby-Doo (which I have to say is not as funny as it was when I was a kid).
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by EliminateMe on May 28, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still working on it, but Avatar is fantastic.
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by jponry on May 28, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"They're also a very capable singing group."
I love Iroh. They did such a great job on that show putting in humor that appeals to adults without resorting to pop culture references.
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by EliminateMe on May 28, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I flipped on Scooby-Doo as an adult and I see some drug references in there.
by SFGuy on May 29, 2009 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Example:
Sitting and watching 2 hours of Gray’s Anatomy (or whatever the fuck else popular show) can be entertaining, but my life feels no less rich for having missed it.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction:
Sitting and watching two hours of Gray’s Anatomy can not be entertaining.
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by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not every Pixar movie was a winner. I was bored by A Bug’s Life. To me, when they’re on, they make some incredible movies. Many of their films rank as cute, funny, and entertaining to me. I really can’t say enough about WALL-E, though, just as a movie.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only two Pixar movies I’ve been “meh” on were A Bug’s Life and Cars. Even then, those were a lot better than a lot of movies out there.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Though an argument could be made that The Incredibles was subpar. It’s a lot of fun but it really isn’t in the same tier as Toy Storys, Monsters, Robots, Rats and Fish.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
The Incredibles was one of my favorites. I felt Robots and Rattatouile were meh in comparison.
That being said, I loved the others you listed.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 27, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s referring to Wall-E, not the movie Robots, which is from Blue Sky.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robots kinda hella sucked.
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by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda?
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda hella sucked. A lot. One of the suckiest sucks that has ever kinda hella sucked. A lot.
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by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would disagree with you there. The Incredibles was fantastic.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I can’t lose you again! I’m not strong enough.”
Really really good flick.
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by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar movie
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by thehavenot on May 27, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i liked it the first time i saw it
when it was called the fantastic four
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by GameSix on May 28, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be funny if the F4 movies weren’t completely atrocious.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or if the movie came out before the Incredibles.
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by JRPhillips on May 28, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a F4 movie released in 1994, but it’s even worse than the recent ones.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
noone is familiar
with the comic books i guess.
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by GameSix on May 28, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew you were going to come back with that. The implication I was working under is that you were referring to the movie franchise based off the comic book. I just didn’t assume I’d need to include the disclaimer that we’re obviously not talking about the comic books, since that’s an entirely different medium for storytelling than what appears onscreen, regardless of it being the source material.
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by JRPhillips on May 28, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so pixar took the fantastic four, repackaged it and made in to a really good movie. k?
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by GameSix on May 28, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay. I can’t argue, I didn’t see the movies or read the comic books.
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by JRPhillips on May 28, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hooray middle ground
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by GameSix on May 28, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d shake your hand right now… But I can’t see you.
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by JRPhillips on May 28, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, the F4 and Incredibles have similar powers. They have completely different stories though. And it’s not like Pixar is the first company ever to repackage an idea. That’s more or less 90% of all movies to come out since the first movies were created.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t even know if it’s really a repackaging so much as that the powers that have been used in comics are there for a reason. It’s a little base to say it because it’s supposed to speak for itself, but they stand for things.
Mr. Incredible has physical strength because he’s struggling with his emotional strength. Elastigirl is stretchy because she’s stretching herself thin trying to keep the family from breaking apart. Violet has invisibility because she’s a shy teenager who doesn’t have confidence and doesn’t want to be seen. Dash goes really fast because he’s an off-the-wall preadolescent who doesn’t want to be harnessed.
The powers are designed to fit the people. The fact that we’ve seen some of them before is just a testament to the fact that we’ve seen art that struggles with the same themes this movie does.
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactamundo. And Jack Jack has all kinds of crazy powers because babies are unpredictable bundles of potential.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Frozone has the power of ice because nothing’s cooler than Sam Jackson.
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except that the powers were designed to fit the people in Fantastic Four, too, and in pretty much the same way (in the movie, at least, I don’t read comics). Mr. Fantastic is trying to keep them all together, Invisible Woman thinks nobody listens to her, the Humen Torch is hot-headed, etc.
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by Cookyman on May 29, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know why the family from the Incredibles has similar powers to the Fantastic four? Because the Incredibles isn’t about the superpowers. They just needed some to be superheroes.
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by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I think they should have had powers that we’ve never seen before ever. Mr. Incredible should have had the power to shoot anti-matter squid legs out of his eyes while rowing a boat that is also the word. Elastigirl should have had the power to write people’s minds! Violet should have had the power weave whataver loose strands of hair were abandoned within a 10 mile radius into weapons that she could subsequently use to fashion weapons that would be invulnerable to attack. And Dash should have had the power to not be such a brat.
Sometimes when we see things that we’ve seen before it’s because they’re good and when we don’t see things that we haven’t seen before it’s because we would have seen them already if they were any good.
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, that Elastigirl one is kind of cool… but I’m sure it’s already been done before too.
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a fairly similar power to what Dakota Fanning had in Push. Readers could read the thoughts of people and predict the future.
If you didn’t see that flick, it was kind of worth watching. I was pleasantly surprised, watching it.
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by JRPhillips on May 29, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even then, it wouldn't be funny
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Incredibles is so completely different from Fantastic Four it’s absurd to compare them.
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by groug on May 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much, yeah.
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
serious fanbois are serious…! JUST CUZ HE WAS BIT BY A SPIDER AND SHOOTS WEB DOESN’T MAKE HIM A SPIDERMAN RIPOFF!!
just kidding guys don’t get all invisigirl emo on me. or is it human shield girl? the line between them…so…blurred…
i’m not particularly passionate about the difference/lack of difference, but supposedly the f4 comic books are much more “adult” than the movies. obviously, the Incredibles did something right because people love love love that movie.
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by GameSix on May 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
confused UTG is confused
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by UnleashTheGore on May 28, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
f4 + overdone Simpsons family dynamic = incredibles
better?
Just ask Brad Bird.
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on May 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simpsons family dynamic? Did Brad Bird really say this? Because if he did, then I question how well he knows his own product.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he was implying that since Bird worked on the Simpsons, he just transplanted it to the Incredibles.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s about what I took from the comment.
By extension: “The Incredibles – I liked it better when it was called the Simpsons.”
Uh… yeah….
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“All’s well that ends well!”
“But Bomb Voyage got away.”
“D’OH!”
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
inaccurate. i wrote it mathematically for goodness sake.
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on May 29, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m a ramblin man today
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by GameSix on May 28, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though an argument could be made that The Incredibles was subpar.
That is empirically wrong.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t get me wrong. I love the Incredibles. It’s like this all the other great Pixar films have something about them that is outside the formula. Something a bit different. The Incredibles is a very well made super hero film but is basically just a superhero film. It has the family aspect but that isn’t much different from other films either.
I don’t feel I am expressing myself very well. What I am trying to say is that I don’t feel it is on the same level as the other films because it is a pretty normal type of film. It takes place in our world…not in the future, not in the world of toys, not in a monsters world, not in a bugs world, not in a world inhabited by cars (though this is definitely not one of their better efforts)…it’s just a bunch of superheros fighting in our world. Make sense?
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always saw The Incredibles as a story about a family who happens to be superheroes.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you’re saying on a fairly topical level…. I mean, no, these people aren’t bugs or robots or toys… but that’s about as far as I can take the idea.
I think Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl were superheros, but they’re not really anymore. Now they’re spouses, parents, citizens, and office workers. Mr. Incredible fancies himself as the man he was, and pines for the experience of his youth. Elastigirl is very grounded in the present and wants to make the most of the lives they have no. The children have no idea what it means to be able to embrace their powers, and Violet’s confidence is crippled by it while Dash grows more and more defiant about it.
The only character who really remains unchanged from the past, who really sticks to a traditional mold throughout his story arc, is Syndrome. Still obsessed with Mr. Incredible. Still building his little toys. Still doing everything for all the same reasons that he was doing them when he was a child. And his inability to stand for anything outside of an isolated event from when he was 12 is what makes him villainous. The actual heroes end up acting heroically because their lives have changed – because they’re not heroes anymore.
I think in a traditional mold you don’t really see that. Bruce Wayne is always fighting his battles because his parents were killed. Clark Kent is always defending humanity because, well, his father kind of told him to. Peter Parker is always … well, we get the picture.
I could talk forever about The Incedibles. I probably shouldn’t, though.
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by howtheyscored on May 28, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we need to save some for the day off tomorrow.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No , go on.
/closet anarchist
Remember , though , that Mr. Incredible and Frozone were also repressed superheroes…who fed their addiction/purpose on the sly.
I haven’t seen The Incredibles in about four months…it’s time.
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by victor frankenstein on May 28, 2009 3:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
howtheyscored covered this much better than I did.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
I appreciate the Incredibles because of the depth of storytelling. It’s very adult in the issues it tackles; the ones you mentioned, plus the trials that their lives as superheroes and ordinary people puts on the marriage of Bob and Helen. Helen seriously begins to doubt her husband’s loyalty and fidelity, and even before that there’s a rift between them when Bob can’t get away from the past and she already has. I appreciate that the story was more than the BANG POW ZAP and bright colors of an animated action film.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
finished your thought.
Peter Parker is always …a pussy
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by UnleashTheGore on May 28, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batman>Superman>Spiderman
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on May 28, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on May 28, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WRONGO
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Order?
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on May 28, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batman>Spider-Man>Superman
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t like Truth, Justice and The American Way?
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Supes, but he’s not as interesting to me as the other two are.
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by Natto on May 28, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batman(non-cloney)>>>>Spider-Man~Superman
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I can’t stand genetically replicated Batmen either.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on May 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs a bio-engineering warning label!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have much time right now
But the Incredibles is not a superhero film. It’s a film about family. That’s what that film is about.
Yeah, there’s the theme about people being special and what that means. But, at it’s core, the film is about family.
And that is an important topic.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on May 28, 2009 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I interest you in Felipe?
What if the cure is worse than the disease?
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card carrying Bochy Hatter
by natteringnabob on May 27, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand the Bochy hate...
how much impact do you guys think a manager actually has on the game? Some, certainly, but he’s NOT the reason our offense doesn’t score. Managers mainly handle playing time and bulpen use.
Yes, arguments can be made about his PT use (to a small degree) but his bullpen use is fine in my opinion. It helps that Affeldt-Howry-Wilson is pretty much established from the beginning, but I see no fault in how he manages the pen (not a big one at least).
I do agree Sabean needs to go, the drafts are John Barr, not Sabean, and I think a lot of our talent is overrated anyway, outside of Alderson, Bumgarner, Posey, and Crawford.
Sabean has just proven time and time again he is now shrewd at putting together a big league team or analyzing the market. (Renteria, Affeldt, Howry, Johnson proved to ALL be grossly overpaid). I had no problems with any of those signings initially, but that was because I was expecting a normal market, like Sabean, and was wrong. The difference is, it’s not my job to predict FA market prices. For that same money, we could have potentially had Dunn, Orlando Cabrera, Affeldt and Brad Penny (or even Unit at a lower rate).
Would that make us a playoff team? No, but we’d certainly be better
by NeifiChicken on May 27, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have a problem with any of those signings.
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far, me neither
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by CB30 on May 27, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't have minded orlando hudson
But hindsight is 20/20.
Ask me again in a month when he is on the DL.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there have been a number of times
where he has made dumb moves that certainly could have impacted the game had he done differently.
I think back to a game a few weeks back, when Howry came in to pitch relief. He pitched two or three outs, and then in the top of the inning, Bochylet him bat, and he did a pathetic bunt that got the 1B runner out. The next inning, he faced one batter and then Bochy yanked him. There have been a number of times where he leaves in someone too long and then a reliever has to come in with multiple runners on board.
Plus, when you have better players on the bench, starting Aurilia, Velez, & Uribe constitutes stupidity and could reasonably affect the game.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 27, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Affeldt is 2 years at $4 million a year.
That’s a great deal.
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by groug on May 27, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not boycotting.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I suggest Girlcotting
Much more enjoyable experience.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He-man Woman-Haters Club!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on May 27, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NAMBLAcotting.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on May 27, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marlon Brando?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
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by Giant among Angels on May 28, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
American track star Lacey O’Neal coined the term girlcott in the context of the protests by male African American athletes during the 1968 Summer Olympics in Mexico City. Speaking for Black women athletes, she advised that the group would not “girlcott” the Olympic Games as they were still focused on being recognized. “Girlcott” appeared in Time magazine in 1970, and then later was used by retired tennis player Billie Jean King in The Times in reference to Wimbledon to emphasize her argument regarding equal pay for women players.
WIYF
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
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We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
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by S.F. Giangst on May 28, 2009 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve always thought “Lacey” is a great name. Sexy!
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by Goofus on May 28, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in
actually, no I’m not.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on May 27, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have that problem sometimes.
More Lube.
by FairweatherFan on May 27, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of this season's tickets have already been purchased.
The ad rates have already been set.
There is no economic leverage. You might have a point about the letters, and that’s the sole piece of it that I would not dismiss out of hand. But the letters would have to be reasonable, contain sensible stuff, and not be the usual stuff we mock here via “GINATS BRAS” But mostly, I think the current management is on its course, pursuing its theory, and isn’t going to listen to us.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on May 27, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a very good point that I had not thought of.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s so bad about being a Giants fan? We’re not winning – so what? It’s not like we’re stuck being Marlins fans with an owner who sees revenue sharing as profit! and trades anyone even halfway decent before they hit arb or the Pirates who drafted a mediocre middle reliever ahead of Wieters. Hell, we’re not even the Padres, who play in a new ballpark that is only 1/3 full every game two blocks from a big patch of dirt that should be the city’s main public library, but won’t be anytime soon because Petco has helped nearly bankrupt the city. Bochy’s maddening, Sabean sucks, yeah yeah but it’s still exciting when Winn hits one into triples alley or Cain puts together a game that makes everyone think ‘hey, he’s breaking out!’
We have one of the best farms in the majors, defending NL Cy Young on the hill every five days, have been in the World Series this decade and have a beautiful ballpark that wasn’t paid for with municipal funds. Are we going to the World Series this year? Not unless a small section of hell freezes over, but the future looks bright, and it’s not going to look brighter with less money coming in.
Perspective peeps, perspective.
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by GiantsFanInExile on May 27, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't use the Marlins as a counter-example
They’ve won two world championships since their inception in, what, 1993? And recognize they’re set to win another one before 2015.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on May 27, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Cain and his Marlins will lead them to the WS Title in 2012 beating Dan Uggla and the Giants in the playoffs on the way…
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 27, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You wouldn’t rather be a Marlins fan with 2 rings?
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear they have room over there.
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou. "He has some bat speed and the ball comes off the bat pretty well" - K.Law.
by BrianBokake on May 27, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather be a Giants fan with four. It will mean more to me than to the virtually nonexistent Marlin fan.
by shanghaijim on May 27, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell no. “Yay! My team won the World Series! Only none of the players who were on that team are on the next year’s team because the owner immediately blows it up and has a fire sale. And going to the park is great because I can sit anywhere I want because only 10,000 people come out for the games! And I don’t understand why the owner – who I’m giving money to buying seats, shirts, etc. – gets such a bad rap, what with him running the Expos into the ground and trying to force the local municipality into building a new stadium for a team he barely invests in… But at least I have my teal green ‘world series champs’ commemorative hat – yay!”
Completely and utterly hollow.
Proud parent of future rookie of the year, Gerald Posey!
by GiantsFanInExile on May 27, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you, actually. But…Marlins fans have already experienced winning two times. We never have. They are already, in the long term, two steps up on us there. We had Barry, though and that is a rare thing.
by positiveuphemism on May 27, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had Barry, though and that is a rare thing.
+1 , 000 , 000 , 000 , 000 , 000…
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by victor frankenstein on May 28, 2009 3:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Giants had won twice since 1997, we’d all still be on this site bitching about Bruce Bochy. I guarantee you that if (when?) the Giants win a World Series, we’re all still going to get all huffed & puffed about 2002, 1993, 1989 & for some 1962. There is no ultimate redemption for being a fan. Not even a championship. The reward is being a fan in itself.
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"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on May 28, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to “blockquote” something from this post, or “IAWTC” but the entire post is so full of awesome I would have had to copy the whole thing
This sir, was a great comment. Bravo.
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My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
by nvsfg on May 28, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly times a billion.
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by GiantsFanInExile on May 28, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't agree
been a fan for all my life. i just want a title. one. freaking. title. i dont care if you disband the whole team in the offseason. don’t care. give me a title. one. please.
please.
And after that, I’ll load up on pointless Sports Illustrated produced memorabilia, and retire from day-to-day fandom activities.
It’s the same reason I don’t love the 49ers like I love the Giants. The 49ers are my good looking, successful son. They’re in a little bit of a rough patch, but they’ll get out of it. I root for them, but in these times I bask in the glory days and patiently await a return to glory. If it doesn’t happen then it doesn’t happen, but I won’t lose any sleep over it.
The Giants need me to cheer for them. They just..they need more help from me than the 49ers do. The Giants are my second born, and I just want him to taste success ONCE for goodness sake. Just once is all I ask, so he can stand next to his big brother and not feel guilty or any less of a son to me.
that got out of hand but what i’m saying is just give me a fuc*ing title and i don’t care how many edgardo alfonsos you fill the team with thereafter.
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on May 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds exactly like what White Sox fans said before they won in 2005 (and Red Sox fans said before 2004 to a lesser extent), and those fans bitch just as much about their teams now as they did prior to the win. Winning the World Series will be awesome, but I’d bet if the Giants won, had a fire sale and stocked the team with Edgardo Alfonsos (a la recent Marlins clubs), made sleazy business deals, etc. you would be just as pissed as you likely are now.
Proud parent of future rookie of the year, Gerald Posey!
by GiantsFanInExile on May 28, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. At least for me.
I’ll use the niners as an example because I feel a great number of us here are fans. I have seen them win 5 times. Even though it has been 15 years I don’t really mind them not winning. I want to see them win but it doesn’t feel crucial.
Of course my love for football pales in comparison to baseball. Nevertheless, once we do win a World Series I am confident that a great weight will be lifted from all of us. And once this comes to pass our tolerance will go way up and the defeats of the past will fade away.
An analogy could be made of falling in love. You might have your heart broken a few times but once you do find love, the pain of the past becomes a memory.
by positiveuphemism on May 28, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get this weird sense that if the Giants win once it’ll fulfill some great gaping hole that will allow fans to forever more put up with future mediocre performances… just so long as they win it once.
The fun of being a fan of baseball is the idea that we invest in six months/162 games because we want to win the World Series every year. Not once in a lifetime – every year. Look at what winning did to Red Sox fans. The first time was a miracle and many said they’d never complain about their team again… until they fell short in 2006 and then it was back to ‘woe is me.’ They win in 2007 and now every season is epic fail if they don’t win the WS. And even with the ringzzz, ask a true lifetime Red Sox fan about Bucky @#$^ing Dent or Buckner and they’ll still grimace and bitch.
Proud parent of future rookie of the year, Gerald Posey!
by GiantsFanInExile on May 28, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong. The Red Sox fans i know don’t care about Dent or Buckner anymore because of 2004 and 2007. Though the idiots who wouldn’t know the difference between David Ortiz and Josh Beckett are the ones who whine.
by SFGuy on May 29, 2009 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
get out of my head!!
yeah though i agree. “tolerance will go way up” = the truth
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on May 28, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always boycott life when it goes to shit, so why not? I never apologize first when my wife and I fight. I just don’t go into work if it gets too stressful. Yipee! Boycotts! Can trade in my parents too?
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on May 27, 2009 5:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Was the post good?
I only read the first line.
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by The Thrill on May 27, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In a way Neukom reminds me of an administrator I had the displeasure to endure once. For an entire school year she just sorta sat back and took notes, saw what the ebb and flow of the department was and then the next year she made sweeping changes that we are still trying to recover from. I haven’t seen or heard much from him so far, maybe at the end of the season he will make some major changes; however I’m hoping in this case the sweeping changes will be made on logic and reason, not on trying to bolster your resume with sleight of hand shenanigans.
by Merope on May 27, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I went shopping at my favorite thrift store today and bought a 2002 World Series Giants shirt that says CRUSH THE MONKEY. Must be some crazy-ass misprint since they had to cancel 2002 season…
Justin Miller: More ink'd than an octopus on PCP.
by stealth snail on May 27, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I so envy you your thrift store selections.
Here in Blankland the racks are awash with , well , Blanktrash.
“2001 World Series Champions!!!”
“Anyone , Anytime , Anywhere!” (That from their ’07 playoff contribution to the TempestTeapot)
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by victor frankenstein on May 28, 2009 3:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess they canceled the 1962 and 1989 season, too, huh?? So it’s been 55 years since they were last in the World Series?
by SFGuy on May 29, 2009 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little help
Here’s a link to a website you might enjoy, since it’s about the Red Sox:
http://www.overthemonster.com/
I can’t imagine too many Sox fans are going to get much out of a board about the Giants. So… Enjoy!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on May 29, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worked for the Expos.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yawn
Adoptive Parent of Francisco Peguero. He can throw, he can run, he can hit(fastballs), and he's Dominican. What else do you need to know?
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
by haverecords on May 27, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope. No way. Life without the Giants is not a life I want to be a part of.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on May 27, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I almost had fried chicken three days in a row....
Though sadly, one of those days I only had white meat D:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
by baetown415 on May 27, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its not gonna be easy, hang in there
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 28, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terd joke at best!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on May 28, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
This isn’t the Warriors we’re talking about
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on May 28, 2009 6:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no dilemna
If the giants win, I feel good about it. If the giants lose, it gives me something to constructively complain about. Its a no lose-lose situation.
by bradleybear on May 28, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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