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Jonathan Sanchez Pitch Value

Part 4/5 of our look at the individual pitch values of the Giants starting pitching.  

Methinks I  am a closeted strikeout fetishist because while I tend to underestimate Matt Cain's value (despite his solid K rate), I tend to inflate Jonathan Sanchez' value.   Jonathan Sanchez is, in reality, much closer to a league average pitcher than an above average one.  Of course, given the egregious price mediocre FA starting pitching commands, cheap league average starting pitching has significant value. On to the numbers.  NB: I chose not to include the season Sanchez spent in the bullpen.

Pitch Type

2008 Value

2009 Value

Fastball

.33

.20

Slider

-.39

1.32

Changeup

-1.51

-3.47

 

Pitch Type

2008 %

2009 %

Fastball

72.7

71.0

Slider

12.3

13.8

Changeup

15

12

 

Fastball Velocity

2007 (Relief)

2008 (Starting)

2009 (Starting)

91.2

90.8

91.1

 

Observations:

1. Jonathan Sanchez is proof that when you are left-handed and throw above 90 mph, you can survive as a major league starting pitcher with only 3 pitches (even when one is pretty terrible).  So remember parents,   tie your kid's right arm down when he is learning to throw a baseball.

2.  Jonathan Sanchez throws more fastballs than any other Giants starter.  In fact he throws many more fastballs than any other Giants starter (Matt Cain throws the 2nd most at 60%).   As befitting an average to slightly-above average fastball pitcher, Sanchez' fastball is slightly above average.

3. Sanchez has always struggled with his changeup.  This year his changeup has been "OMG, PLEASE DON'T THORW THAT AGAIN !1!" (in gameday thread speak) terrible.

4.  I included Sanchez fastball velocity mainly as an interesting fact.   Most pitchers experience a bump in velocity when they move to the bullpen and lose velocity when the move from the pen (which makes intuitive sense).   Sanchez patently ignores this tendency and throws the same velocity regardless of his role.

 

I hope you enjoyed this post!  If not, you only have one more to suffer through (or glance at and subsequently ignore)

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MOAR SLIDERZ!

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on May 26, 2009 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m horribly biased for this, but…

Can we at least ask the White Sox about trading Sanchez for someone like Stefan Gartrell? He’s a touch old for his level, but he’s hit at every stop, and projects as a OF/1B in the Swisher positional mold, instantly becoming the competition for future 1B with Villalona, but able to play corner OF if either Angel or (in a long shot) Neal explodes. Best of all, he’s an SF kid (Sacred Heart and USF), and we’d be bringing him home.

And I’d get to tell people I started over a MLBer when we were in Bronco.

by David A. Arnott on May 26, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

No thanks

.254/.334/.421 as a 24 y-o in AA is pretty bad.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on May 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’d take Sanchez to get him…

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 26, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It makes me sad that his changeup sucks because I love changeups.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 26, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah...

I heart changeups too. Lowry’s changeup when he first made the majors was pretty much my favorite pitch ever.

I wonder what would happen if Sanchez threw only fastballs and sliders? Probably nothing good.

Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on May 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

You make an interesting point...

Even though Dirty’s changeup is bad, he might be easier to hit if batters had one less pitch to look for, thus decreasing the effectiveness of his other two pitches.

By the way, shouldn’t somebody be teaching the guy a new pitch by now (yeah, I know it takes a while to learn). Alternatively, they probably think that all his pitches are good and he “just needs to put it all together”.

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on May 26, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

can Tim teach him how to throw a changeup?

by ktice on May 27, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

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