After Sanchez...whats next
by cazzuno on May 26, 2009 11:41 AM PDT
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Whether it happens in May or in July it seems like good ol' dirty sanchez will be traded for a bat playing 2b,1b, LF or hopefully someone that can play all three at the same time.
My question is who is coming up to replace Sanchez in the rotation? Will it be a top prospect in AA, a solid young pitcher in AAA, a former prospect, or a free agent?
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L |
ERA |
G |
GS |
CG |
SHO |
SV |
IP |
H |
R |
ER |
HR |
HB |
BB |
SO |
WHIP |
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Ryan Sadowski (AAA) |
3 |
2 |
4.2 |
9 |
9 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
49.1 |
39 |
24 |
23 |
6 |
1 |
22 |
41 |
1.24 |
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Kevin Pucetas (AAA) |
4 |
1 |
3.86 |
9 |
9 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
53.2 |
53 |
24 |
23 |
7 |
2 |
15 |
32 |
1.27 |
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Daryl Maday (AA) |
2 |
1 |
3.38 |
9 |
9 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
45.1 |
44 |
17 |
17 |
3 |
4 |
12 |
24 |
1.24 |
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Henry Sosa (AA) |
3 |
0 |
1.85 |
8 |
8 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
39 |
35 |
11 |
8 |
3 |
0 |
12 |
26 |
1.21 |
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Jesse Foppert (AA) |
0 |
2 |
3.65 |
7 |
6 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
24.2 |
22 |
11 |
10 |
2 |
0 |
17 |
19 |
1.58 |
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Jesse English (AA) |
2 |
3 |
4.44 |
10 |
5 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
26.1 |
29 |
15 |
13 |
4 |
1 |
14 |
22 |
1.63 |
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Nick Pereira (AA) |
0 |
1 |
4.91 |
3 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
11 |
10 |
6 |
6 |
2 |
0 |
10 |
7 |
1.82 |
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Tim Alderson (AA) |
2 |
0 |
1.93 |
3 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
14 |
11 |
3 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
18 |
0.86 |
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Madison Bumgarner (AA) |
3 |
0 |
0.5 |
3 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
18 |
10 |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
4 |
21 |
0.78 |
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Scott Barnes (A) |
4 |
2 |
4.35 |
8 |
8 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
39.1 |
39 |
20 |
19 |
2 |
2 |
15 |
27 |
1.37 |
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Craig Clark (AA) |
3 |
2 |
3.48 |
8 |
8 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
44 |
37 |
17 |
17 |
7 |
2 |
7 |
48 |
1 |
Personnally i wouldnt mind a flyer on a Free Agent like Byrd, who wont blow anyone away with stuff but also wont derail Pucetas/Sosa but i realize that having Johnson/Byrd in the same rotation is living dangerous so i am going with Pucetas.
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4.75 FIP, .305 BAA, 1.82 WHIP, 6.26 BB/9 and 7.78 K/9.
Sign me up!
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by jcb9 on May 26, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poll seriously needs a Sadler option
Not saying Sadler is lock but if trying to establish (or reestablish) a pitcher why not go with the guy that, if things half arse work, would be team controlled for a bit and thus have some value?
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by daveinexile on May 26, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I mean, we need to replace Sanchez’ walks!
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by zenbitz on May 27, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the sudden uncertainty which way home plate is myself. You said it better.
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by daveinexile on May 27, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say something sarcastic, but he hasn’t really been that much worse than this bunch.
barf.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 26, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
amended: not saying that the young kids have been terrible, but they probably aren’t ready yet. The AAA squad is pretty scary though.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but then we have been use to that from most of AAA squads for the better part of the last decade.
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by daveinexile on May 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAA
Fresno is the only Giants affiliate on a 5-man rotation so taking anybody below AAA is going to change their pitching schedule.
by wilriv21 on May 26, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get that. I would more apealing memeber on the AA staff get more time and regualr work any ways. Last thing we need is another Sanchez type situation.
My comment was just more on the sad state of Fresno’s squad in the last handful of years when one looks at it for help to go to the big club is all.
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by daveinexile on May 27, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by nvsfg on May 26, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad Litle Billy? Really? Has he even been starting?
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by Johnny Disaster on May 27, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Bhaakon on May 26, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're still waiting for that one
Amirite?
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by ThrillisGone22 on May 26, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s my boy!
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the deluge
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 26, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, I’m not sure it’s such a foregone conclusion Sanchez will be traded.
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by jcb9 on May 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is what I was going to post. The poll is missing: He won’t be traded.
by positiveuphemism on May 26, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lincecum – not going anywhere
cain – 24 yr old locked in team friendly contract for multiple yrs – not going anywhere
johnson – would net marvin bernard and stan javier on trade market right now
zito – oh yea 8 more years at 350 million dollars remaining
sabe’s is gonna try to save his ass by trading the only player that owners & fans wont kill him for trading while getting an average bat in return…if the season ended right now sabe’s would not return as G.M.
by cazzuno on May 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can get a Nick Johnson type bat for less than Sanchez….I’m not sure they look for another bat in addition to that.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait…the Giants’ can get Benard AND Javier? GETERDONE GIANTSBRAZ!
by tyrannoman on May 26, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
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by groug on May 26, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whether it happens in May or in July it seems like good ol’ dirty sanchez will be traded for a bat playing 2b,1b, LF or hopefully someone that can play all three at the same time.
Can you link a source to this?
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by marcello on May 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know the answer to that all too well
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou. "He has some bat speed and the ball comes off the bat pretty well" - K.Law.
by BrianBokake on May 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro Martinez or Ben Sheets
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 26, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ooh
Has there been any information regarding Sheets’s rehab lately?
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by jponry on May 26, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. I don’t seriously expect either one to come here in the event of a Sanchez trade, but I thought it would be fun to add a new element of intrigue to this fanpost.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 26, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets...
Almost everybody and his brother will be after Sheets if he is healthy enough to pitch from August on. It could be one of the most amusing contract negotiations I’ve seen in a long time.
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by daveinexile on May 26, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised that this situation doesn't come up more often.
Other than Clemens’ late signing shenanigans, and we all knew that he had a very short list of acceptable destinations, I can’t think of any notable in-season FA’s.
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by Bhaakon on May 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets is pretty much assumed to be a Texas Ranger as soon as he is healthy enough to sign a contract.
by Hobbes2d on May 26, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but that is before the Brinks trucks with team logos on their sides start driving past is house.
I mean imagine him on the ‘Bums, Phillies, Cubs or Cards. Let alone the M’s, A’s Tigers or KC ( nice pitching yards that could still be in the race).Changes the look of the whole pennant race without trading a prospect. That is assuming no one in the ESPN Division AL East feels they are close and need a starter. A healthy Sheets just as too much potential for someone to not make a fool of themselves.
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by daveinexile on May 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, I doubt Sheets will have any impact this year when he’s coming off major arm surgery.
by Hobbes2d on May 26, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop being rational!
It’s my dream od chaos and anarchy and I want to keep it. At least for a little bit longer.
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by daveinexile on May 27, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cliff Lee!
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm
What about JOE Martinez*?
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by baetown415 on May 26, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good call…completely forgot about him. personally i would be scarred for life but hey i hope he can step on the mound again
by cazzuno on May 26, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No guarantee he’s coming back this year, but if so, then he skyrockets to the top of the list.
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by rotorueter on May 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pucetas
But I want to see Sosa
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by ejdacanay on May 26, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This
they toyed around with pucetas in st, and if Sosa keeps pitching well they might have to give him a shot. And I’m answering this question as a who will be called up as an injury not who definitely replace Sanchez
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by TexasRanger on May 26, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d think the logical first chance would go to either Martinez or Pucetas. It’s possible that they could give one of the young guns in AA a shot as well. Of course it depends on how well the team & individual pitchers are doing at the time.
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by GiantFan on May 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw
Alderson pitch when he was in A ball. If he progresses, he could be moved up to the rotation like Timmy was at the end of the season a couple years ago. If this will hurt his development, Im against it, but if he is ready, it will be him.
by gimpsta7 on May 26, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim was called up in May and was only held back because Russ Ortiz was taking his spot in the rotation.
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by boonitez on May 26, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think even the Giants would hold back Lincecum just because they thought the 2007 model of Russ Ortiz was going to be so awesome. I’m sure they had other reasons for starting him in the minors.
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by jcb9 on May 26, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly why rush the most special prospect you will ever, it didn’t hurt anybody to have Timmy start off in the minors and get off on the right foot before being thrown into the show
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by TexasRanger on May 26, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you guys
I just mean that if they feel Alderson can handle it, pitch him. Cain and Lincecum excelled after the minors, I think the one thing the Organization does well is develop pitchers.
by gimpsta7 on May 26, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teams want to avoid starting the arb-eligible service clock.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 27, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
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by daveinexile on May 27, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the fact that Lincecum went 4-0 in 5 starts at Fresno with a .742 WHIP and 46 Ks in 31 innings may have convinced them that there wasn’t much more for him to learn from pitching in the PCL.
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by EliminateMe on May 27, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
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by boonitez on May 27, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to guess “Cleveland Steamer”, but then I read the post.
by tyrannoman on May 26, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
unless the team really has an excellent chance for the playoffs
I wouldn’t move anyone, and let some of these kids gel in the majors. Maybe we have a team loaded with second half players. If only some of these guys would take a walk. Giants will average almost one runner or even more per game less than most teams simply because they refuse to take a walk. They will work a 3-1 count, and then swing at garbage to make an out. Why even bother to work the count 3-1 if your going to swing at the pitchers pitch.
by bradleybear on May 26, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Baby steps. Baby steps. Pile thoose pithces on them.
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by daveinexile on May 27, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you know?
You can’t walk off the peninsula.
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by Lyle on May 27, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
future rotation
Don’t get rid of the big guns and watch Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner and Alderson blow the league away with either Sanchez or Zito as the number 5. Probably Sanchez could be moved to the pen.
by bradleybear on May 26, 2009 10:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i realize that having Johnson/Byrd in the same rotation is living dangerous
For the Byrd , anyway…
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by victor frankenstein on May 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Alderson
I would like to see them bring up Alderson before Bumgarner. He’s older, a year more experience, and thus less likely than MadBum to freak out at the call up.
None of those AAA retreads look appealing to me as an option.
On a larger note, I would not be surprised at all to see Cain get traded for a bat before Sanchez. He would bring more in return than Sanchez and would free up more salary room. They could pick up Hardy from the Brewers to play 2b or 3b or a guy like Robinson Cano from the Yankees for him. Problem is that there arent very many 2B/3B guys with pop that will be available.
by backtocali on May 27, 2009 8:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Hardy is available after the injury to Weeks.
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by rotorueter on May 27, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really you want cano or hardy for cain? How is that going to free up salary? Those players are arb eligable, Hardy makes 4.65 million and Cano is on a 4yr 30 million contract that pays him 6 mil this year, Matt is on a 4 yr 9 million dollar contract, with the most coming on the team option of 6 mil. This year is making 2.25 mil. Maybe I am stupid but getting either hardy or cano is not saving money.
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by say hey nation on May 27, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he ment that Cain costs more than Sanchez. Not that Cain would cost more than Hardy/Cano.
How can Pucetas or Sosa be considered a AAA retread, though?
by tyrannoman on May 27, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I understand that, I just don’t think the Giants would thinkn of it that way. And besides I would rather them pay cain an extra 2 million/year than have sanchez
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by say hey nation on May 27, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers need a pitcher, Escobar appears ready
There is a lot of talk in Milwaukee about the Brewers dealing for Cain or even Peavy. And the main player that makes sense in either trade is JJ Hardy. Yunel Escobar is hitting about .280 in AAA and putting up the outstanding defense that they expect from him.
Brewer offense will only go as far as Braun and Fielder will take it. Hardy, although not expendable, can be dealt and not damange the team all that much. Imho, he is destined for 2b in the future, he is an average to below average SS and his power will diminish over time.
If a Cain for Hardy deal were to materialize, the Brewers would have to throw in a prospect as well to even things out.
And yes, I meant Sanchez is cheaper than Cain. Less Payroll in a move involvind Cain and more in return in a deal involving Cain.
by backtocali on May 27, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yunel Escobar plays for Braves.
While I like JJ Hardy (below average defensive SS, my ass), we clearly need an upgrade at corner position more. Can we officially stop with the CAIN 4 HARDY nonsense we’ve been hearing for a year now.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on May 27, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Alcides Escobar.
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by jponry on May 27, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stealz
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 27, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Riley
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Matt Palmer
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by say hey nation on May 27, 2009 8:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Palmer has a good w/l record but that’s due to luck and run support. He still sucks.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 27, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I was really mad when I saw a 5-0 record with 4.82 ERA and 22/17 k/bb.
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by say hey nation on May 27, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ace?
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by Natto on May 27, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh...
Church?
Or if you are going the other way, Noe.
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by zenbitz on May 27, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ICWUTUDIDTHAR
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on May 27, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares?
But my mouth is watering thinking this:
1.Lincecum
2. Mad Bum
3. Cain
4. Alderson
5. Sanchez/Pucetas/whoever they draft this year(Matzek, Wheeler, Tate)
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 27, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I keep reading the title as “Alex Sanchez”.
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