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Giants/Braves Recap

Compelled by forces they couldn't understand, several members of the San Francisco Giants ran around a dirt path on Monday, ending their journey after touching an odd, white, pentagon-shaped object with their feet.

"I couldn't understand it," said Giants first baseman Travis Ishikawa. "I've had the urge to run around a dirt path and touch a white, pentagon-shaped object with my feet before, but I've never acted on the urge."

Fred Lewis, Giants outfielder, was similarly surprised. "We talked about doing something different during the game -- something crazy, like go out in the field with funny wigs, or something. Then someone said, 'Hey, wouldn't it be wild if a few of us touched that odd, white, pentagon-shaped habit with our feet?'"

The experiment was a success, as it allowed the Giants to "win" their contest. Manager Bruce Bochy says the team shouldn't get used to the exhilarating feeling, though. "It was a lot of fun, but we don't know much about that object. Whose is it? Where did it come from? So we should probably just steer clear for a while. I just got the first season of Lost on DVD, so I'm a little jumpy about strange objects right now. "

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Stay away from mirrors , Bruce.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on May 25, 2009 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

So, apparently Travis Ishikawa homered?

I didn’t see it happen, so I don’t believe it did.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 25, 2009 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

It was a bombski, he should have like 3 though

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are 2-3 he’s just missed, yeah. One, Miller even called it a home run before realizing he was wrong. Oops!

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

over triples alley too.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 25, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where the grass don’t grow.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was it a splash landing? The highlight on SFgiants.com kinda makes it look like but I can’t really see the ball land

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 26, 2009 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good win

Lost Rulez

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Tom was a good Giant

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strange Objects

Ishikawa pounds on home base when suddenly…a light from within!!!

"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ

by sroufe on May 25, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good think Bochy hasn't seen season 3 yet

This would’ve really creeped him out:

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 25, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks shopped

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 25, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now we can jump on the back of TI as he carries us into June

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

This

…is funny

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I C WUT U DID THAR!

Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related

by cloudydays on May 26, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny how they scored 2 and we scored something other than 1.

I think I pulled my swagger muscle...

by BawLa on May 25, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah

I think there’s a scoring error in there somewhere.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on May 25, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Krukow almost just said, “What makes our country gay…”

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't ask don't tell

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 25, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

why not just say no to Brucie

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I heard that as well.

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he meant the 1950’s definition of the word “gay” meaning happy.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, good thing he didn’t mean the other decade’s definitions of the word “gay.”

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

“stupid”?

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
McCC = McClain Chronicles

by Useful_Idiot on May 25, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

El Guapo owes Justin Miller a prime rib dinner with all the trimmings

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I demand a transcript of the conversation that would occur at this dinner

20-23 - Giants Series Record: 8-5-2, 7-1 at home

Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - 2.40 ERA, .230 BAA, 5.0 K/9 in Norwich through 41 1/3 IP.

by rhys on May 25, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Hey man. thanks"

“No problem”
/Awkward 20 minute silence

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

El Guapo: See that tatted up white boy over there?
Waitress: Si
El Guapo: Get him whatever he wants
Waitress: Si
Miller: Nom Nom Nom

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the waitress at the Prime Rib place is Hispanic?

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

you do not eat out often

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 25, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have seen many hispanic cooks at chinese restaurants, serving sushi, and at thai restaurants

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you just go to Amici’s near the ball park, the cooks are Hispanic.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best chinese food I ever eat was in Turin, Italy Find all kinds of cooks cooking everything anything anywhere at anytime

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need to go to China.

by Natto on May 25, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Over here, they load it up with sugar and cornstarch and leave out the odder parts of the pig, so that those Americans who love their food sweet, bland and easy will still eat it.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 25, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

CHINA IS HERE?

I don’t even know what the hell that means.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on May 25, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard restaurants in Turin are shrouded in mystery

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on May 25, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

/golf clap

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get ya

I see the same things. I was making a sex joke at your expense.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 25, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is all the old guy has left at 50+

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I have sex it’s a joke and an expense

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on May 25, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And according to my so-called accountant, not a deductible expense

(I still deduct it as a medical expense.)

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 25, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related

by cloudydays on May 26, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just saw the clip on Baseball Tonight. I didn’t know Mr. T was a student of Rex Kwon Do.

by Natto on May 25, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rex Kwon Do FTW

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually I don’t

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oddly enough, I have those very census tables open right now. I could tell you the percentage of waitresses that are hispanic if you wanted.

In the bay area, it’s pretty large.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 25, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess time

75%?

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s a bit high.

Some parts of Texas and California will get above 50%.

San Francisco county is about 12%, well above the national average.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 25, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

jesus

I was a bit off

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This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’d probably be right for Chefs and cooks.

But I’ve already shut down SPSS.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 25, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

wilriv just Nom’d!

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the "At least we're not _______ fans" files

The Indians are already down 9-0, and it’s only the top of the fourth inning. And the Rays have runners on second and third and one out.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Just put the city of Cleveland there..

It’s gotta be heart breaking enough to have their Cavs go down 1-2 (should be 0-3).. Just adding on the fact their baseball team is terrible, and the Browns always suck.. At least we aren’t Cleveland fans.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, the Indians are one of two teams who’ve gone longer than the Giants without a World Series.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

But they have one playoff team in the 3 major sports, Bay area is 0-5

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but they had the best record and look terrible.. I’d rather be mediocre than be expected to win and don’t.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like the San Jose Sharks? (Best record and look terrible.)

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

True.. but hockey kinda sucks.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was being nice.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rebuttal: Hockey Doesnt Suck

no sir, hockey is great. the only reason soccer sucks is due to the fact the pitch is so expansive. With Canadian Football, all of the decisions the athletes have to make have to be very quick, on a frozen indoor-soccer field. Put world class athletes on ice, and watch the mayhem as guys the size of Lance Niekro fore check another guy the likes of Chad Billingsly in open ice. Awesome. The only reason i hear people cant get into hockey is because the puck is too hard to follow… imagine what its like for the goaltenders.

The Sharks were a terrible, and utter disappointment. Even though the ducks were hot, and the sharks coasted to earn the president’s cup; the rationale just cant make up for the misery when the Sharks lost the first 2 home games. The heartbreaks of the Bay Area continue.

by Classy_Argonaut on May 25, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s about 50 years since a team has won a championship in Cleveland.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That could change if Lebron’s teammates get their act together.

by Hobbes2d on May 25, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

LeBron, Choker. Doesn’t know how to win. This is Shaq’s team, this… oh wait.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 25, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 25, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

10-0 now.

Dioner Navarro HBP with the bases loaded. Hahaha.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

RBI?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 25, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

DON'T YOU FEEL STUPID NOW

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by groug on May 25, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cleveland won... Wow

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Wilriv21: "Your" as in your SF Giants.

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF

That is insane

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t really believe Ishi’s Pop up hit gave him confidence, a small laugh at best.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he's been

getting confidence over the past week or so. He’s been drawing a bunch of walks and being more selective.
Like Kruk and Kuip would say, he’s ‘walked his way out of a slump’.

by AmorVincitOmnia on May 25, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Define "Your"?

Norwich/Richmond?
Fresno?
Another organization?
SF?

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better?

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Wilriv21: "Your" as in your SF Giants.

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

A bit late, but still apropos

Anagram of “infielder Travis Ishikawa” = TRIVIALISED A FREAKISH WIN

Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING

by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 25, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

trivialised is almost a word!

The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 25, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey we won!

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

But the game wasn’t official. No double switches.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone’s “favorite” is on Chronicle Live..Bruce Jenkins!!!

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s why I’m watching STAR WARS.

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That reminds me, the Yankees play the theme music during introductions/pregame

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 25, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

has Jesus got the ball out of the infield yet?

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

He hasn’t in the at bats I’ve seen. Perhaps he’s not the savior…

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me that K&K named Burriss’s single to score Ishi the "ford Drive of the game. Looked like it just cleared the infield. Burriss power.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 25, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a solid line drive.

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by groug on May 25, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure, I agree.

But it wasn’t a big powerful drive or a cracking shot. A good solid hit, not a cheapie,, but also not especially powerful or striking.

I think Burris must have had some similar advice to that which Kuip received (from Frank Robinson?). I think it was something along the lines of, if you are hitting it into the air, you are doing it wrong.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 25, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great day from the little giants too!

Posey: 3-4 with a double
Neal: 2-4, double, homerun
Villalona: 2-4, double

by superk1ng on May 25, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

He didn’t look imaginary when I saw him.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Captain has looked pretty good when I’ve seen him.

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

His K rate was ridiculous his first month(23 K in 21 games in april). In 22 games this month he’s struck out just 10 times. His walk rate and power has always been there, but I don’t want to get too excited until I see him perform at a higher level.

by superk1ng on May 25, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s still what just 21? He has time. So far so good.

by Hobbes2d on May 25, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quirarte got knocked around pretty bad, though. 2/3 of an inning, 3 hits, 1 walk, 4 runs.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

His ERA went from 2.25 to 4.97, it looks like. Dang.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crawford 3 for 5, AVG back up to .333

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Wilriv21: "Your" as in your SF Giants.

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it looks like Torres and Romo will be back this week. Who goes?? Jesus and Kevin??

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Aurilia is too much to ask for, apparently.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 25, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

plz plz plz

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This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aurilia is unlikely, at this point. If he continues to suck into July, I think he will be gone.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only way Aurilia ISN’T one this roster this week is if he is “injured”.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

bet Sabes is working on a deal to trade a reliever and then Romo can slot back in nicely. Torres can replace either Guzie or Franny

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Valdez, Howry, Medders, Miller, who else is down there?

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing they’ll keep Affeldt and Wilson.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Miller

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Wilriv21: "Your" as in your SF Giants.

by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Miller would be untouchable.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

But hes worth more to us then he would be in a trade

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

depends. is we contenders or 2011?

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

not really

He’s not as good as he’s been pitching. I’d trade him while his value is still high.

by superk1ng on May 25, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Miller is a reliever that is easily replaceable.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

If he pitches this well, then he is worth more to us. But if he has value, then go ahead and trade him. I just dont know if he has value to MLB GM’s

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

have you seen the terrible bullpens league wide? Lots of bums tossing out of bullpens across MLB

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

THAN!!! Worth more to us THAN he would be in trade!!!

Sorry. I am going on a rampaging campaign — a rampaign? — to get people on this site to use THAN when making a comparison between two things, and use “then” when you mean something happened next. It is absolutely killing me!

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 25, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

So are you going to go on a crazy FanPost about it? Because than you’d probably get some attention.

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

More attention then a fanshot, definitely.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on May 25, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is this fanshot you speak of?

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on May 25, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s supposed to be shorter and less substantial then a fanpost.

It’s definitely further down the page then fanposts.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on May 25, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very funny, TuskerDu.

I am going pure 1-on-1, direct confrontation. I expect it to be more effective than just soapbox ranting. I’ll do a few of these, and then we’ll see where we are.

And then, of course, the world! MWAH HA HA!

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 25, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

TuskerDu

Clever.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 25, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

/sits in the corner

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 25, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

He could be complaining that the Giants’ brass will wait too long to trade him.

Once miller’s value is so high that the fans want to keep him THEN he’ll be part of a trade.

by paboperfecto on May 26, 2009 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

after reading that article by Baggs still believe Sabean is working on a blockbuster that will have McCoven howling. Sabean will trade some big name prospect and MLB for a Miggy Cabrera or something like that

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

howling as in good or what a crappy trade it is?

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bad

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by CB30 on May 25, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

With pitchforks and lanterns

think Matt Williams deal and the phrase “I am not an idiot”

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that trade worked out in the end…

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by Chulk on May 25, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

and this one too but only after they burn down the fort

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t trade a big name prospect and MLB for Miguel unless the MLB was Velez or Aurilia.

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not? Dude’s awesome.

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by cheno on May 25, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you’d trade Matt Cain and Tim Alderson/Madison Bumgarner/Buster Posey/Angel Villalona for Miguel Cabrera? I would hang up the phone to that offer.

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Belieive Sabean would be willing to deal one player from Group A (Cain) a couple of players from Group B (think Community List 5-15 or so) and maybe a player or two from Group C.

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would trade Cain and Angel for Cabrera in a heartbeat.

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by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually I would too, well maybe

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by CB30 on May 25, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would trade Cain and Alderson for Cabrera.

I can’t advocate trading my adoptee.

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by thehavenot on May 25, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should have signed Mark Teixeira, then. They’re similar in value. Teixeira is 3 years older, but he’s also much more athletic, so I don’t think he’s more likely to decline. He’s a bit more expensive – $22.5M per year over 8 years, compared to Cabrera’s $20M a year over 7 years, but getting to keep Cain and Villalona/Alderson is definitely worth it.

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:-(

by Cookyman on May 26, 2009 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t necessarily have to be Cain, But yeah, I think I’d do that. We could only dream that Villalona would be as good as Cabrera. Why not get the sure thing?

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by cheno on May 25, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure what reliever would go, they’ve all pretty much done well. It’ll be Miller or Medders though. Also probably Jesus should go down until we get the DH again.

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by WalrusMan on May 25, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be 3 games in Oakland in a few weeks.

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whiteside will go down at some point.

The other one will hopefully be Aurilia. But I doubt it.

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by groug on May 25, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUCK IT, ATLANTA

I love when we school the braves

by techsig12 on May 25, 2009 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Mr. T threw out the first pitch in Chicago

best

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 25, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

At least he didnt sing the anthem

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by CB30 on May 25, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pity the fool who has to hear him sing.

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by Azmanz on May 25, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did “sing” Take me out to the ballgame.

by SFGuy on May 26, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does he still have the mohawk?

by SFGuy on May 25, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who’s gonna give Mr. T a foot rub??

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by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 25, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

They get KNBR way out there? :-)

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by Goofus on May 26, 2009 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take me out to the ball game FOOL

by Hobbes2d on May 25, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Man, Brian Wilson sure picks his spots to have 1-2-3 innings

You couldn’t do that, you know, when we didn’t have a six-run cushion?

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by Sammy Danger on May 25, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t hassle me, I’m local.

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by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is the first season I have ever seen so many runners on second base run to third with the ball hit in front on them. In the Cub vs Pirate game Theriot got nailed attempting to advance

by wilriv21 on May 25, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Spring training wasn’t long enough this year to work on stuff like this.

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by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan seems to be expert on this

One spring training SF had him talk to the players about baserunning technique. It could prevent things like Pablo getting thrown out at third stretching a double into a triple when the throw goes home.

by boogalou on May 26, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good victory, but it could have gotten bad if Miller hadn’t have limited the damage in the top half of the 6th. IMO, Bochy should have gotten the pen hot right after Sanchez gave up the triple to lead off the inning. Instead Sanchez walked the next batter and then Miller was sent down to warm up. Miller could have came in at this point, but since he was just sent down to warmup Sanchez got the opportunity to walk yet another batter to load the bases. Rags or Bochy, or even (God Damn) Mark Gardner need to recognize that at some point every game Sanchez hits a wall that he cannot get over and a change must be made before Sanchez gives the game right back to the other team. This game had the signs of a I HATE BOCHY post game thread written all over it.

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by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, but that’s on Sanchez. He hadn’t even hit 80 pitches yet.

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by cheno on May 25, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally agree, but the coaches need to be prepared for the Sanchez inning where everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Regardless of pitch count, the coaches need to have their ducks in a row to make a change when needed and (most importantly) at the right time.

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by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

So by your logic, Bochy should have someone up in the pen as soon as someone gets a hit off Dirty? I’m sorry, but I don’t subscribe to the Felipe Alou school of wearing out the bullpen without ever using them.

I think Bochy played this one well. Sanchez will never develop if Bochy is going to yank him after giving up a hit and walk. Bochy gave him a chance to pitch out of it, but he failed. You have to take the training wheels off at some point.

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by Goofus on May 26, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course I am not referring to anytime some one gets a hit off of Sanchez the bullpen must get going.

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by Giant among Angels on May 26, 2009 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

+ mayor

Yes, when Sanchez hits the wall, he hits the damn wall. There is no slow, Shakespearean descent into madness and tragedy. It’s a quick sitcom-like shift of tone from comedy to pain. Norman Lear, not King Lear. When he gave up the triple to start the inning, I said to a few friends in 311 that this was the end, and Bochy should get relievers going NOW, but that he would wait until it got worse and would put the reliever in a position to fail. Sure enough, that almost happened.

I like Sanchez a lot, especially for a #5, but he really isn’t a 110-pitch guy (at least not yet; I remain hopeful). Around #80, the descent can come fast and hard. Which, of course, is what she said.

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by Mayor of 311 on May 25, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone remember

this used to happy to Rueter, too? Woody would be cruising along (Yes, it happened) and then when he hit the wall, he would really hit the wall. There was no gradual transition.

That’s not a good thing or an excuse for Jonathan, by the way. Someone with Sanchez’s stuff and potential should never be compared to Woody, regardless of Rueter’s adequacy.

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by thehavenot on May 25, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Happy?

What was I thinking of?

Happy should be happen…

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by thehavenot on May 25, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stuff has nothing to do with. He just doesn’t doesn’t have good stamina.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on May 26, 2009 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just trying to make your typo look better, by the way.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on May 26, 2009 3:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn you’re good. (I was tempted to bait you with “your” but decided against it.)

by Dan from NM on May 25, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like these kinda games better

WTG, Ishi. I didn’t believe, so if you could prove me wrong that would be fun. Wish I coulda seen it live but the updates were still fun to get.

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by bondslegend on May 25, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

In one game he added 31 points to his BA, 25 points to his OBP and 59 points to his SLG. If he has another game like that tonight, he’ll be respectable.

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by Goofus on May 26, 2009 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

A question about earned/unearned runs

So after checking out the lines from the games today I don’t understand how Wandy Rodriguez had NO ER when (I’m pretty sure) they just made an error to allow the first runner on base.

by Yoostey on May 25, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions  

The runs probably scored with 2 outs. The way I understand it is the inning is recreated without the error(s), and if no runs would have scored, then all the runs are unearned.

by SFGiantsD on May 25, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The way I understand it is the inning is recreated without the error(s), and if no runs would have scored, then all the runs are unearned.

Yeah, that’s pretty much it. Anything that would have scored without the error is earned. Everything else is unearned.

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by groug on May 25, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know the rule, but the inning went:

E – 1B – BB – 1B (RBI) – out – FC(run scores) – 1B(RBI) – 1B(RBI) – 1B(RBI) – out

But from the looks of it, anything after an error is not considered earned.

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by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well the first run that scored was the error, so it wasn’t earned. Then there was an out, then the fielder’s choice would have been the third out without the initial error, so everything during or after that play would be unearned.

So that accounts for all the runs not being earned.

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by groug on May 25, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's how I read it also.

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by Azmanz on May 26, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also if you have time, here is the official scorers LINK

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by Giant among Angels on May 25, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks!

that all makes sense now (that the FC would have been the third out and that the first runner scoring was the result of the E.

by Yoostey on May 25, 2009 11:59 PM PDT reply actions  

The best laid plans
Fred Lewis, Giants outfielder, was similarly surprised. “We talked about doing something different during the game — something crazy, like go out in the field with funny wigs, or something. Then someone said, ‘Hey, wouldn’t it be wild if a few of us touched that odd, white, pentagon-shaped habit with our feet?’”

Ironically, Fred’s first attempt fell short of executing that idea, as he touched it with his hand. But he got it with his feet on the second try.

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by achiappanza on May 26, 2009 12:21 AM PDT reply actions  

where’s the dancing egg man?

by HeMissedTheTag! on May 26, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

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