Do the Giants have a drinking problem?
I lied to Aaron Rowand. I shook his hand, looked him in the eye and lied. The date was February 8, 2008.
It was the day before Giants Fan Fest out at AT&T Park. That special time before Spring Training when fans can mingle with players, check out the yard, and get fired up before the season.
The night before, I was with a group of friends who decided to go to Bubble Lounge on Montgomery Street in San Francisco. As luck would have it, they don't allow people with Joe Thornton replica T-Shirts, ripped up Nike running shoes and camouflage Chevy hats into this place. I was stuck. All my friends were already inside.
So I said the hell with it, I'll just hit a bar by myself.
So I ambled up the street, looking for a bar. First one I saw was the Hilton on Kearny. I said, "What the hell? Maybe I'll find some hot business chick in here or something."
As I walked by the indoor fire pit, I noticed a large group of loud folks, having a great time. I swore I saw Matt Cain...
So I sat down at the bar and ordered an Anchor Steam. During my second one, my buddy Goose joined me, loose out of his gourd.
I said, "Dude, I think that's Matt Cain over there."
Then, all of the sudden, I saw an unmistakable figure...
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nah. they’re all public figures.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 22, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Slander is spoken. In print it's libel.
But yeah nostocks is right.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG GIANTZ BAZEBAL TEAM HAZ DACLAP
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 22, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
What about the drug speculation? Couldn’t that be defamation of character? That’s always how it goes down on TV, so it must be true.
I've asked Mayor of 311 this several times
And he says no. He’s a lawyer and stuff so he knows things.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
right, I forgot to mention the slander/libel difference. These days it’s usually just referred to inclusively as defamation.
Because the Giants players would be considered “public figures” the person publishing the defamation would have to do so with “actual malice” meaning he or she knew the statement was false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth. This is a First Amendment protection. (New York Times. v. Sullivan). Here, the person who posted this witnessed the players drinking and could rightly or wrongly conclude that they had a booze problem. It isn’t defamation under American law.
Also, opinions aren’t defamation. (That doesn’t mean you can preface defamatory statements with “In my opinion…” and have it not be defamation.) Typically, this is an affirmative defense to a charge of defamation, as is the truth. The thing about Lincecum possibly being a stoner would likely be considered an opinion. He wasn’t saying he is a stoner, but rather that he might be. It wouldn’t be defamation unless he was saying unequivocally that Lincecum smoked an illegal drug. Again, the actual malice standard would still apply.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 22, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I say they are drinking because they are having such a crappy year. Hell, I have been drinking because they are having crappy year.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on May 22, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions
This is stupid
The Giants aren’t good at baseball because they aren’t good at baseball, not because they might have been out at a bar once or twice.
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that bitch!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it's totally because they go to bars.
And the reason Wilson blows games is because of his haircut. It’s obvious.
by chilibean_3 on May 22, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he has a Guitar Hero Injury
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 22, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Ummm, doesn’t MLB have a drug test? So if they are stoners they would not last long. I don’t think Zito would risk voiding his contract for weed. Timmy needs to stay squeky clean so he can land a big contract (arb and beyond)
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 22, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions
Marijuana tests are pretty easy to spoof.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on May 22, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Group of young wealthy athletes drinking? Well I never.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions
Next you’ll tell me they were fornicating with floozies.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
fornicating is an excellent word
Is not used nearly enough. Also floozy. Why aren’t terms like hussy and floozy thrown around more often?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
baseball players go out to bars after games?
OH MY GOD I WAS UNAWARE OF THIS UNTIL NOW HOW DARE THEY
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Loose Gossage?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions
I bet he refers to him self as either Ice Cold “Iceman” or Mavricky Mc"Mavrick"
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 22, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
So lemme get this straight…it’s ok for you and your boys to head out every night, but a random dude that’s about age and happens to throw nothing but 95 MPH gassers off the plate isn’t allowed behind the velvet rope?!?
I AM the Boozer, and I have spoken!
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My opinion
Get a life of your own and get over it.
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by Josh from Hollywood on May 23, 2009 12:47 AM PDT reply actions
I don’t know, but they’re sure giving me a drinking problem.
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by Smotheredinhugs on May 23, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I was surprised no one got to it before I did.
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