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The San Francisco Giants Are a Crime Against Nature: Post-Game Recap


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The best I've ever seen Wilson pitch was in  tonight's at-bat against Edgar Gonzalez. If Wilson can ever harness that slider into something he can throw for strikes (or just below the strike zone) consistently, he'll be almost unhittable.

That doesn't mean that he needs to throw twenty sliders in every inning, though. If the animated corpse known as Brian Giles gets a hit off a 98-MPH fastball, well, you shrug your shoulders and chalk one up to bad luck. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, YOU DO NOT NEED TO THROW A 3-2 SLIDER TO THE ANIMATED CORPSE KNOWN AS BRIAN GILES. What in the holy hell was that about? Wilson blew the game, and he did it with supreme fail, but whoever thought that slider was a good idea needs to sit in a corner and think about what they've done.

But what a game! Not the baseball part -- that was unspeakably awful -- but did you see the rare sighting of a transitional hitter! Amazing! Splendid!

Oh, you don't know about transitional hitters? When Jesus Guzman stepped to the plate for his first major league at-bat, he was a powerful, red-hot slugger. He smoked a ball up the middle with a runner on third and one out...and it hit the mound, and went right into a double play. Poof! We witnessed a rare transitional hitter! The talented hitter from the minor leagues emerged from his magnificent chrysalis into a fully formed suck butterfly wearing a Giants uniform. It's so rare to see it live. We're so blessed.

And I'm loving the 375-foot singles. Just amazing.

Did that post-game guy just say that he didn't know that Petco Park had a reputation of keeping balls in the park? Good gravy....

And, oh, yes. Scott Hairston. If jock itch could sleep with your wife, there might be something found in nature that could compare with Scott Hairston. Like, you come home, and throw your keys on the coffee table, and you here a noise, and you creep toward the bedroom door, push it open, and OH GOD, JOCK ITCH IS SLEEPING WITH MY WIFE. That's Scott Hairston. Why didn't I just turn off the TV when he came up against Wilson? Why didn't I just turn on Call of Duty 4 and shoot virtual 12-year-olds in the head to make myself feel better?

If you need me, I'll be exhuming the grave of Abner Doubleday so I can set his bones on fire and dance on the ashes. Screw this abhorrent game.

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We’re 9 games back, that’s how much all other 2nd place teams in MLB are behind COMBINED.

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I pray we don't try to buy at the deadline

Trade Molina, Winn, Affeldt, Johnson and anybody else not in our future plans

by superk1ng on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Affeldt’s on a 2-year contract. I want to see him next year.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same

And he’s not sucking right now.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anything, Affeldt should be the closer and Wilson should move to mop up.

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better to use Affeldt in all of the highest leverage situations. Closer usage sucks.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes , Wilson should move to mop up...

…in the Incontinence Wing of the Insane Giant Fan Asylum.

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on May 22, 2009 3:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't trade Affeldt!!

yeah, let’s trade the only reliever who doesn’t make me pee in my pants when he comes into the game. He’s got a two year deal, and trading him would show me you’re conceding 2010 as well as the rest of this year. Maybe I’m in the minority, but I turn on the game to see the present team win, even if we’re 20 games out of first. To make this clear, I wouldn’t make any deals to help a team 20 games out, but I wouldn’t unload the roster either, especially of the young veterans with time left on their deals. If anything, we should be considering extending Affeldt if he continues to pitch like this next year, and there’s really no reason to think he won’t. Young veteran relievers with mid nineties fastball and a jaw dropping curve don’t go on trees, you know.
     As for making him the closer, how about no? With all the agita, Wilson has been successful enough in the past that you don’t give up on him as yet, and when you are ready to give up on him, you can’t waste your only quality bullpen lefty on the closer role. What if you’re facing the Padres and Giles and Gonzalez are due up in the eighth? You’re going to bring in Wilson or Howry and save Affeldt for the righties in the ninth? You need to keep Affeldt in the role he is now, which is late in the game against the other team’s big lefty bats, no matter which inning it is.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd only suggest

moving Affeldt to the closer role, just to shake up Wilson temporarily.

by AmorVincitOmnia on May 22, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

his 2 year deal is

why he could probably be our most valuable trade asset. He should fetch some serious prospects at the deadline from a contending team

by superk1ng on May 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then the bullpen would be completely unwatchable.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now

We’d still have Howry…..

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I accept your apology.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's not like we're making the playoffs

I don’t really see the difference between a 70 win season and an 80 win season when you miss the playoffs

by superk1ng on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other than a better draft pick!

by Rorsavelt on May 22, 2009 2:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The way they are playing you don’t have to worry about buying

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh....

I think I would trade Winn, but probably not Molina or Affeldt. I don’t even think we could trade Johnson, but you never know.

Honestly, if Winn is traded in the next couple months, I’d like to see Bowker get a shot in RF, maybe show off some of them new found on-base skills. He could turn into one of those “late bloomer” outfielders, like Ryan Ludwick (obviously, he bloomed really really well).

by Squire_Boone on May 21, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t agree with your opinion that we don’t have to worry about buying. This is a GM who may become desperate to save his job. If we’re out of it at the deadline he’ll do nothing, but be very careful about the next couple of weeks.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buying?

I don’t think I mentioned anything about Sabean buying or not buying. I was simply saying who I wouldn’t mind seeing Sabean sell.

I sure hope Sabean doesn’t buy, but he always finds a way to surprise us, and not in a good way.

by Squire_Boone on May 22, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Wilson, all star

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Its almost worth a Wilson fail to see “Brian Wilson presents frown”

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Nothing could be worth that Wilson fail.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is one of the most disgusted posts I’ve ever seen from Grant.

And rightfully so, of course.

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by jponry on May 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT reply actions  

We should be pissed, this is pathetic baseball

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The breaking point in the season :D:

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's also one of the funniest I've read

And got mentioned by Andy Behrens at Yahoo fantasy baseball as a great fan blog example

by Mrbasepaul on May 22, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

AW, BRO, CHECK THIS ROCK BAND WIZARDRY….UNSUSTAINABLE CHEDDAR TO THE MAX….DOES THIS HAIRCUT MAKE ME LOOK LIKE POOCHIE, BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT I WAS GOING FOR….

by Grant Brisbee on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can Brian Wilson die on the way back to his home planet?

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Win.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on May 22, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

STOP MAKING ME LAUGH, I WANT TO BE ANGRY AND DEPRESSED

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

GRANT’S HUMOR IS JUST PREVENTING MY TEARS FOR NOW

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never seen an episode of the show. I still LOL’d.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been really patient with Wilson, but after tonight, I can’t stand to see the sight of him anymore. PA-THE-TIC

by Natto on May 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Grant.

The definition of transitional hitter made me laugh in between crying sessions.

by E30Alex on May 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I want to burn some shit down.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

SET WILSON’S HAIR ON FIRE

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

10 hits, two runs…

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

1 out from victory

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point is, this shouldn’t have been close.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

NEVER count the outs.

by Merope on May 22, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

4 hits in the 9th, 1 run.

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

infinite amount of frustration

Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related

by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I just looked at Brian Wilson's Fangraphs and Statcorner pages

And maybe Wilson shoulda been traded when his value was at his all-time high…..

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think his value was ever high..

Maybe among the fans who don’t look at underlying stats, but other GM’s.. There’s only 1 Sabien.

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by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there’s a lot of Sabeans still around the league. That being said, Wilson’s value right now is too low to consider trading, and as we look around the league at guys like Joe Nathan, do you really want to take the chance that Wilson finds himself with another organization? All I need is to see him save 30 in a row for another team and hear him say that their pitching coach just made a simple adjustment.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I fuckin’ hate this team sometimes.

Well Velez and Wilson the most.

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by SoFa King Mike on May 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Bochy is first for me.

by SeeingStars on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let me think...

Velez the most. No wait, it’s not his fault he wants to play…. ok Bochy.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOCHY SUCKS

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate Bochy, but I have to give him credit for the job he did last night. He showed balls to bring Guzman up in the seventh instead of Aurilia, he didn’t leave Timmy in there for too long, and he pushed the right bullpen buttons. You can’t blame the manager when he hands the lead over to the closer and he implodes.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t call it brave to bat Guzman instead of Aurilia

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by Useful_Idiot on May 22, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, maybe I should have used the expression “out of character” for Bochy to use the kid instead of the washed up vet.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes?

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Lincecum’s last two starts, he has faced Livan Hernandez and Kevin Correia. The Giants are 0-2.

by E30Alex on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

OH GOD WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE ME NOTICE THAT

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

it had to be said

Krazy Krab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.

by timmeh on May 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

he also left the game losing in the start before that to Jeff Weaver, but we managed to come back and pull that game out.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow fuck that

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Flem

Reminded me we have a DH tomorrow. Who’s that? Velez?

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Rowand..

Velez plays center

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, fun....

At least it’s not 2nd, I hope that’s his worst position.

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Molina

Holm at C, Pablo at 3B. That way all the catchers play at once

Let's bring the...

by Swager on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holm’s in Fresno? You know, that whole no backup catcher plan.

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe not after tonight? HOpefully

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only the Giants would do this

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pedro Feliz can play catcher. I’m pretty sure we still have one of him on the roster.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on May 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhh, I wondered how we had Jesus and Frandsen up without Edgar on the DL. Didn’t think they would have gotten rid of Holm again.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on May 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

See Bochy Knows What He's Doing. I Believe In This Front Office.

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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 21, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guzie not the savior?

Came up with runners all over the pond and layed an egg

by wilriv21 on May 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s a Giants hitting prospect.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a Giants hitting prospect.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

He looked good at the plate, for the most part. Confident.

by positiveuphemism on May 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen looked confident too

It didn’t help.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s a total bust.

by Rorsavelt on May 22, 2009 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know some of you guys are kidding, but for the most part you’re pretty brutal. Maybe it’s because most of you are posting from anger right after the game, while I’m posting the next day on a beautiful 85 degree sunny day in New York. As for Guzman, don’t you think he was nervous on his first day in the major leagues? I was nervous FOR him, so imagine how he felt. As it is, if that ball doesn’t hit the mound, it’s an RBI single up the middle, and we probably go on to win this game. He looked poised at the plate to me, and considering he only made one error this year at Fresno, I’m thinking he’s not as bad at first as he looked last night. I think he’s going to play the whole weekend at Seattle, and even though that’s too soon as well, we should all know a little better about whether we have anything with Guzman. In my opinion, we’re going to find that this guy is a keeper.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he hit that first ball up the middle hard enough that it should’ve been in center field. But you have to admit that when a guy gets called up with a reputation as an awful fielder, and makes two confusingly poor plays (the pickoff should’ve been caught, and I don’t even think Frandsen’s throw from 2nd was in the dirt), it’s really alarming.

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by Useful_Idiot on May 22, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have never been more happy to not watch a Giants game

and Lincecum was on the mound. That, right there, shows you just how awful this has become. Swept by the Padres… TWICE! Good God.

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by Smoke on the Water on May 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

I thankfully missed all of the past three games purposefully, because I couldn’t take witnessing the Giants being swept by the Padres….again…at least hearing about it second-hand doesn’t make it as real as seeing it with my own sad eyes

by Mrbasepaul on May 22, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said this on the other thread

It should be fun on the KNBR Brian Wilson Show tomorrow.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Greetings from Seattle

We walked back into the B&B where we’re staying and I fired up the computer in the den just to see how the Giants were doing. Oh, that was a mistake. It was right about the time Scott Hairston was singling home the winning run.

Brian Wilson: He Just Wasn’t Made For These Times.

There were a lot of Giants fans on the plane ride up, so I’m guessing the road team will have a nice cheering section tonight, worth at least an extra two or three men left on base.

Mayor, thanks for the Dick’s Drive-In recommendation. Yum.

Resume bitch session.

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by Kitspool on May 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Remember to sell your King Felix bobblehead that the M’s are giving away on Friday night.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Wilson: He Just Wasn’t Made For These Times.

You said it. This Brian Wilson passed his Pet Sounds phase last year. Now he’s morbidly obese, drug-addled, and seriously lacking in confidence.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on May 22, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

DELIGHTED that you enjoyed Dick's burgers! Have a great time.

And please remember: when you leave, lie to everyone that it rains all the time. You’re on your honor.

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by Mayor of 311 on May 22, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not eating meat from any restaurant with the name “dick” in it. Exactly where did that meat come from?

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I don't even care taht Wilson Blew the game

Because the Giants offense is so fucking horrible that they only mustered 1 run against Kevin fuckin Correia.

What is that, 4 runs in the last 27 innings? Jesus Christ.

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

That is truly pathetic.

I do care that Wilson blew the game though.

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by jponry on May 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

OKay well, I care

But it’s not like we deserved to win that game anyways. Wilson was just making sure it ended the way it was supposed to.

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

what killed me was that we hit rockets off of Correia, only to have them bang off the wall or stick in Hairston’s glove, while they really didn’t hit a ball hard off of Lincecum all night. An infield single and a bloop produced their first run, and a swinging roller, two walks, a HBP, and their only legit hit of the night produced the big ninth inning rally. Some games just weren’t meant to be won. I’ll bet Met fans said the same thing about us being lucky after last Sunday’s game, when they left runners all over the bases, and we scored two runs aided by balks.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes but we know the Giants offense is going to be terrible

it’s up to the pitching rotation + bullpen to keep a lead if they are given one.

Timmy did a great job, Affeldt/Howry did a great job, and Wilson fucked it all up

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terrible is one thing

3 runs a game = terrible.

4 runs across 3 games is probably what the connecticut defenders would score in the same series.

Literally.

Actually, probably less.

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes but they still should have won this game

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

regardless of the score

a team with the lead going into the bottom of the 9th should win the damn game…

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

A team leading after the end of the ninth inning should win the game.
A team leading by three runs or more going into the ninth inning should win the game.
A team leading going into the ninth will OFTEN win the game, but ninth inning losses are fairly common.

by positiveuphemism on May 21, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are common but the point is not on the frequency of them, it’s on expecting them.

by SeeingStars on May 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your expectations should kind of be shaped by frequency. I get what you’re saying though. But maybe we should stop expecting them when Brian Wilson pitches?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

might have to.

I’m just saying that in Baseball, if your winning heading into the final inning, you expect (or should) win the game.

it’s why closers get paid

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

As in

The probability is that you will win.

But that’s in average situations. Not with this team

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

it has been the case with this team, yes

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every team should expect to win a game when leading after 8.

by SeeingStars on May 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are clearly missing the point

The fact that the Giants only mustered 1 run against Kevin Correia is evidence enough that they did not deserve to win this game at all.

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are missing the point

just because they didn’t deserve it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have won the game.

the Giants were up 2-1 going into the bottom of the 9th, therefore, the Giants should have won the game

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

to this site, yes. to baseball, no

the hell does that have to do with anything?

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re absolutely right. Don’t let the anger cloud your judgment… no pun intended.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is this isn’t baseball that the Giants are playing……..it’s something that I don’t recognize.

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on May 21, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We deserved to win by only giving up 1 run through 8.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This. As long as the Giants hit like this, they don’t deserve to win games.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

At some point , you the animated corpse known as our GM would realize that?

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on May 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is. That’s why the Giants will be buyers. Wait for it.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one could be that stupid

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on May 21, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait for it.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh....

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

I could see them only having 4 hits, but against Correia? At least 3 should have been homers, and at least one would have been with runners on because of walks. Sad.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

/checks for new games on Sporcle I can do

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn it.

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http://www.sporcle.com/

Today’s games look hard. I’ll have to check again tomorrow afternoon.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm “mentally stimulating.” No Bochy to be found here.

by Natto on May 21, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Wilson is bad.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on May 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

most fair weather fans do

by Classy_Argonaut on May 21, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

after a game like that, half of me never wants to see another baseball game, and the other half of me can’t wait for the next game to start so that I can somehow forget the previous one.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

That sums up the game rather nicely

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone who doesn’t want to talk about baseball now has a thread for that.

/really lame pimpage.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

The Giants still cannot get the runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs. TWICE by Guzman. I am losing faith in Jesus.

by wilriv21 on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Grant, I'm surprised

you had enough energy to type that much. It may be a form of therapy for, but I just hardly had patience for this entire padres series and I find it’s better to take my productivity elsewhere.

like posting silly responses.

by coicoy on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I can’t wait to get swept again.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

We got swept in Seattle last time

Round 2 is just around the corner

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This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

that will be one desolate series.

Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.

by trapper on May 21, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

all by 1 run in the last at bat.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 21, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

for what a team building golf tourney?

by wilriv21 on May 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know I'm late to this thread, but...

JUST NATURE?

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

AGAINST THE WHOLE ENTIRE UNIVERSE

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I miss Todd Linden. At least he failed with HR potential.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Where is the AAAA player now?

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Raking as usual, this time for the Yankees AAA team.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

current numbers — 335/.407/.548

Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.

by trapper on May 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll get the call up to play in NY and hit .158

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he’ll be in New York and hit 20 HR doing it.

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

YEAH LIKE CODY RANSOM

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he was playing for Dunder-Mifflin.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on May 22, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

HEY AT LEAST MAYBE

Bochy gets canned?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions  

You do know which team he manages, right?

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes please

Let's bring the...

by Swager on May 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I said to myself

then I realized there’s no way this org is ballsy enough to can someone before August

MAH BOY Kevin Pucetas gets nothing but results, and is highly sought after by 29 other major league clubs.

by Sammy Danger on May 21, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before August??

Bochy lasts the entire season. He’s more likely to get an extension then be fired.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on May 22, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

+ mayor

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 22, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

please no

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on May 22, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

At first I thought you typed “caned”

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, yes please

I’ll even let Grant have the first swing

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would help

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You seem surprised

They do this with a consistency that is almost admirable.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will carry my love for Matt Cain to the grave.

by SeeingStars on May 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

what ever happen to Dallas McPherson? Did he eat at the same restaurant as Sergio Santos?

by wilriv21 on May 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

At least Lincecum pitched well

too bad this shitty team is going to keep him from repeating as the cy young winner

by superk1ng on May 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay, I have a new theory

Who the hell is calling pitches anyway… I would like to know why Wilson threw gwynn and Giles so many strait balls.

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

TWHS

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think so yeah.. Or Righetti

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Wilson

You throw 100 mph, remember? Spot the goddamn fastball and get the fuck off the mound. I swear I think this guy WANTS to be on the mound for 30 minutes and 35 pitches every time he comes in. What is so sad is that everyone knew they would find a way to lose.

by SFGiantsD on May 21, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Postgame wrap

Miller, Kruk and Flemming all said that Wilson has lost all command of his fastball this year. Kruk stated the obvious that Wilson hasn’t had one routine save all year. Flemming said that Affeldt probably ought to be closing right now.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a closer who’s known for throwing the FB that’s a bad, bad sign. So the obvious answer is to throw him out there more, yes?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t face the wrap last night – were the guys angry or just resigned? Did they offer any sort of hope for a turnaround? I’m really not sure how much longer I can face watching this stuff – but,, then, what else is there to do?

I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused

by PLUChris on May 22, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boulderhead may be crap, but...

He’s like so many managers – good with a good team, but can’t make a bad team any better. That’s straight Sabean. I don’t like Bochy either, but let’s not get any ideas that this team sucks because of Bochy. Sure, he should flat-out refuse to play Velez, but like he has options?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Every manager has their flaws, but I’ve yet to see to see Bochy’s strengths. Comic relief does not count!

by SeeingStars on May 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the manager is only going to do so much.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

What has he done positively.

At least give me fresh blood that will screw up in new or intersting ways.

Give me a pants dropping or chair throwing manager.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

And please note that I’m fine with firing Bochy. Good riddance. But seriously – is there really a manager you’ve liked since Roger Craig?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is exactly it

I’ve yet to see Bochy do anything that any average fan could not do.

Lefty/right matchups and double switch every time you yank the starter.

That does not a good manager make. It’s like an old computer game strategy

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus letting young players rot on the bench….

And running some of our relievers into the ground this season

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

except no one is laughing

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 21, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy’s managed 14 seasons, 5 with winning records.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

After this season, it'll be 15 seasons with 5 winning records.

But here’s the thing… show me the best manager in baseball right now, and I’ll show you a manager who would still lose with this roster.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 21, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes--100% yes to this

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 21, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do not want to open a wound

but in the 9th inning when a GIant singled and BMoney went from 2nd to 3rd on a single could a PR scored on the hit?

by wilriv21 on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Can’t no back up catcher

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, maybe

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was fairly shallow, would have been close.

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on their speed

1 – Molina
10 – Coleman

I’d say a 7 would have made it and a 6 would have had a play at the plate.

by positiveuphemism on May 21, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stan Javier was a 6.8. He would have scored.

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on May 21, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go get a hitter or something, or just get better, either way is fine

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Might get close to breaking Bonds’ walk record.

by paboperfecto on May 21, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

This is the argument I keep having. Big deal, go ahead … get ONE hitter, unless he is able to dispense magical hitting power powder onto the rest of team (probably a banned substance anyways) ONE hitter is just going to turn into one walker, setting up the inning ending gidp.

by Merope on May 22, 2009 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just saw the box score

All I have to say is

Adopted: David B. Flemming

by Larson2042 on May 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe the team

Want’s bochy fired so they are collectively fucking up.

That’s how they manage to all get hits w/o scoring. They are alternating who gets to hit each inning.

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

i doubt

the majority of this team is that good at hitting lol

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to see all sorts of AAAA sluggers who need a real shot. McPherson, Linden, Shealy, and so forth. Let’s say one turns out to be reasonably good – it’s worth the experiment.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

+1000

I want Posey to reach the big leagues as a cog and not expected to be a savior.

by SeeingStars on May 21, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have rather had Ruth, Bonds, & Mays come to the plate with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th than Giles, Eckstein, & Hairston.

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on May 21, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

ruth would freak out from the skin tone of the Giants infield and have a heart attack.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say that. I believe Ruth participated in some exhibition games vs. some Negro League All Star team. Ruth also played some exhibition games in Japan.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i actually read

that there was a theory that ruth was actually part black. how mind blowing would that be if it were proven true?

by projectmayhem713 on May 21, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pearlman! Go at it!

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 21, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

no hitter through 8

Giants lose 1-0

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by cloudydays on May 21, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

12Ks, 7W, 1ER

Giants score zero runs

Let's bring the...

by Swager on May 21, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ichiro takes him yard

by wilriv21 on May 21, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 IP 6 ER

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He seems determined not to reach 300, I hope he wins though

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This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 21, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loses. The Dirtbag gets the win

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 21, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys will love this

If you watch the Saturday FOX game, everyone but TX, OK, MS, parts of LA will get Phillies-Yankees with Joe Buck, Tim McCarver.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Worst series of the year?

Every one of these games was winnable with a competent offense. We should be talking about how dominant Lincecum was despite some bad luck with the ER. We should be talking about how Rowand’s mini-resurgence over the past few days has been encouraging. We should be talking about how awesome Randy Winn is. Instead, it’s just another bitter bitter loss. Nice going, Giants.

by Natto on May 21, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Definitely, I think.

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by jponry on May 21, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

WORST. SERIES. OF THE YEAR.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 21, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll dig through the archives, but this might be the worst series I’ve ever seen. Chris Young, whatever, but Chad Gaudin and Kevin Correia?

by Grant Brisbee on May 21, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And how many lead off doubles did we leave stranded in this series?

by superk1ng on May 21, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck Aaron Rowand

Resurgence my behind. Aaron Rowand was given 60 million dollars to do the following:
1. Provide power for the offense
2. Get clutch hits
3. Be a leader
4. Play gold glove centerfield
  He has failed miserably at all four. This “resurgence” you speak about is due to the fact that they moved him to leadoff where he gets to bat with no pressure and nobody on base. Bochy has been forced to move a hitter who is neither fast nor draws alot of walks to a position where he can hurt the team the least. I don’t care if he hits .300 with 30 HR’s in the leadoff spot, he’s staying on my shit list.

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by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

This looks like the demand letter I sent to my landlord last week….

That didn’t work out so well for me either.

~wake me up when they score some runs~

by HarshInFresno on May 22, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

we had no chance in that series

by superk1ng on May 21, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

the pitching sucked in that one. can’t say i ever felt like we were in those games, but at least i still had hope because i knew (hoped) the pitching would regress to normal as the strength of this team.

this series…i thought the mets series was disheartening. but at no point in time this series did i see a runner in scoring position and have any hope that he’d score. not once.

and so to watch the pitching go out there and meet almost every expectation and get unilaterally Cain’d makes me want to puke.

by sayheybk on May 21, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that series, the Giants lost 3-7, 3-6, and 1-6. We didn’t have much of a chance there.

by Natto on May 21, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is actually amazing

Is that the teams OPS+ over the last 7 days is 90, which isn’t half bad considering.

It’s just been the order of events that has absolutely killed us.

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOT CLUTCH!?!

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t think of a worse one.

The first series in LA was pretty bad, but I don’t know that it was brutal like this one.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The walk-off walk was sucktacular.

by Natto on May 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but we weren’t really close in the other two games, so as much as it sucked watching Hudson hit for the cycle, they didn’t really get our hopes up just to crush them.

This is the worst.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

the moron who did the post game show said the Giants are 0-9 in southern California this year. He must have been sleeping when they took 2 out of 3 in LA a couple of weeks ago.

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by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

or he’s just not that good at geography

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 22, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s a geography problem when he includes one LA series but not the other.

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by groug on May 22, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

the dodges series was worse.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 22, 2009 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

Losing to the Padres sucks ass for several reasons, a big one being that they could have won every damn game of this series.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

We hate the Dodgers more than we hate the Padres, so that’s why you might feel that sweep was worse, but to me the worst series was the first one against the Padres, where they beat the crap out of us the entire weekend. The fact that we should have won all three of these games makes this series more frustrating, but the Giants played much better. As for the Dodger series, we have taken two out of three from them twice since then, so considering how dominant they are at home, combined with our success after that first series, that sweep has pretty much been forgotten.

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by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think oldjacket is the only one disagreeing with you on this.

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by groug on May 22, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since Frandson and Jesus obviously can’t handle major league pitching, which AAA (or below?) player do we need to create 6 Fanposts a day saying “FREE PLAYER X!!?!”?

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Rohlinger, I think. Put him at third, move Sandoval to first.

That seems like it could be the new thing.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sure like to give guys 10 AB before passing judgment…

Seriously, Ishikawa at least has potential. Give him more rope.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’ve been giving Ishikawa rope, and he’s been tying some mighty fine nooses with it.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

.333/.429/.375 in the last 7 days! That’s improvement!

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good to see

But, where is the power? I find it surprising that a guy known for power (to a degree) is having a hard time hitting even a double. Every time he hits the ball hard in the air, it is always to center or center-right, but with only warning track distance.

Someone mentioned once that they thought TI has poor bat speed, and I am beginning to wonder if this is true (I am not a scout, so I don’t know). But, it seems that every time he pulls the ball, it is a ground ball straight to the 1B or 2B.

by Squire_Boone on May 22, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

should we really expect Ishikawa to get better?

His Babip is .339! How bad is he going to be when that regresses?

by superk1ng on May 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he fails, he fails. The guy has shown the ability to hit. So far, he’s been shit, but it’s a small sample size, and you don’t want to give up on him yet.

I’m not saying he’s Carlos Pena, but look how long it took Pena to get a real shot. If Ishi turns out to be Pena Lite, isn’t it worth more time? Seriously, is Ishikawa really the one piece keeping this team from the playoffs? Come on.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 21, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

i agree with you there

We’re clearly not going to the playoffs, so I don’t have a problem with giving him the entire year.

by superk1ng on May 21, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s not in our top 3 problems, but he needs to start hitting some jacks.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 21, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s not in our top 3 problems

I think you’re vastly underestimating just how much worse he is than an average first baseman.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, that’s the point. If Ishi was a middle infielder you could afford more patience, or if he was in a lineup like the Yankees or Phillies you could live with it, but a first baseman on a team that can’t score runs has got to go.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok, maybe he’s in the top 3 problems.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 22, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should get better, but I don't

He should get better, but I am beginning to doubt if it will be MUCH better than he is doing now. At least, I don’t know if he will ever become an average offensive 1B in a Giants uni.

by Squire_Boone on May 22, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m OK with Ishikawa.

by Natto on May 21, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is like saying Wade Boggs was ok with non-alcoholic beer

~wake me up when they score some runs~

by HarshInFresno on May 22, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why bailing on Guzman after one game? We all wanted him, now lets see what happens. At least there seems to be a chance.

by SFGiantsD on May 21, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not everybody was that excited. We’ve seen this movie plenty of times before.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 22, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t even want to see what the RISP average is for this series.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions  

There isn't one, don't worry about it.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 21, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

0

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

So happy that we are out of the race

This should preclude the stupid rent a player trade, or some crazy ass Matt Cain for Paul Konerko speculations.

This year is over, stay on track on a rebuild year, and fast forward to September when Posey and Gillaspie are called up to see what they can do.

Please, Lose a few more to be completely out, and trade Randy Johnson at the deadline.

by jctGamer on May 21, 2009 11:14 PM PDT reply actions  

This should preclude…some crazy ass Matt Cain for Paul Konerko speculations.

It won’t.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

MATT CAIN FOR DYE AND AJ

Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.

by theghostofjasonellison on May 22, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are we rebuilding tho?

I don’t really have confident in any of the young players being worth a shit

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I AM DEPRESSED

I’m going to start rooting for a team that isn’t bad at baseball.

Like the A’s.

crap.

by FairweatherFan on May 21, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

so it’s not all bad news…

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 22, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

not the current roster

But Gillaspie Crawford MadBum Alderson AnVil Posey.

To think, 3 years ago this farm system was a barren and in 3 years we have all this. I’m actually looking forward to 2010.

by jctGamer on May 21, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t lost confident in Sandoval and Lewis.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on May 22, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’ll probably trade Tim Alderson for Paul Kornerko while the Giants are 15 games out of 1st place.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

nightmare transaction history from the future

Washington Nationals trade 1B Nick Johnson to San Francisco Giants for Tim Alderson + PTBNL
Nick Johnson placed on 15-day DL with hamstring soreness.
Nick Johnson placed on 15-day DL with plantar fasciitis.
Nick Johnson placed on 15-day DL with strained tendon in hand.
Nick Johnson placed on 60-day DL with fractured femur.
Nick Johnson files for free agency.
Nick Noonan named PTBNL.
San Francisco Giants sign Carlos Delgado to 3 years, 28 million.
Los Angeles Dodgers sign Nick Johnson to 1 year, 1.5 million.
Carlos Delgado placed on 60-day DL.

by sayheybk on May 21, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re behind Brian Wilson on the list.

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by groug on May 21, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

by SFGiantsD on May 22, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

We're all pissed

But most of us will be back Friday night on McC for the M’s-SF game.

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeppers.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on May 22, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’re deeply stupid.

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by groug on May 22, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course we will. Interleague is the best baseball.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on May 22, 2009 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

We can’t even muster up 8 partly decent hitters. Where are we gonna get a 9th?

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on May 22, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giants baseball=abusive relationship

They hurt you, promise you it’ll get better and it won’t happen again, but you keep coming back. And then they hurt you again.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's what I said!

on yesterday’s post-game thread, before Natto got “Granted”. ;)

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on May 22, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that the truth

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 22, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Insanity

Performing the same act over and over again expecting different results

~wake me up when they score some runs~

by HarshInFresno on May 22, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who said anything about expecting different results? This is pretty much the team that was expected this year… It’s just that we’ll be back watching the game tonight and suffering like the abused enablers we are, telling ourselves that in the future, things are gonna be OK.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on May 22, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN Fantasy recommends

Starting Randy Johnson because “The Mariners don’t hit much”

by SFGuy on May 21, 2009 11:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Mariners don’t hit much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Giants’ don’t hit at all

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just ran out of vodka. :(

Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)

by antinous on May 21, 2009 11:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I HATE BRIAN WILSON

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on May 21, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions  

fuck. just fuck. fuck.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 21, 2009 11:48 PM PDT reply actions  

what the fuck can you even say anymore… there’s just so many ways to say FAIL before I’m going to start going crazy and banging my head against the wall…

Can’t wait for Monday. Free BBQ Aprons! Awesome.

by zuma420 on May 21, 2009 11:56 PM PDT reply actions  

shit… I think I just lost it.

by zuma420 on May 21, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

My head just went through the wall, but I saw the HBP to Eck on the other TV.

by SFGiantsD on May 22, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

whoa!? is that from electric boogaloo 2??
the girl looks familiar, but i had no idea JCVD was even a background extra.

this is teh awesome.

by sayheybk on May 22, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s now officially my new happy dance.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 22, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baer sighting

Larry was on my United flight coming back from JFK (NY) this afternoon. I can’t think of anything it means, but I’ll just put it out there in case someone wants to make something up.

He wasn’t flying coach like I was, and there was a driver waiting for him with a sign.

"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002

by achiappanza on May 22, 2009 12:36 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s how Larry rolls.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on May 22, 2009 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you truly loved the Giants, you would have hijacked that plane and cratered it into some remote location.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on May 22, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

True dat

But I’m no kamikaze, and neither is my baby.

"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002

by achiappanza on May 22, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

AUGH WHY BRIAN?

Meh.

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Kevin Frandsen, back with the big team!

by WalrusMan on May 22, 2009 4:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I mentioned the excessive number of sliders he was throwing in the game thread.

I saw this coming. I hated being right.

by Lars The Wanderer on May 22, 2009 5:59 AM PDT reply actions  

When is Wilson Bobblehead day? :(

by jimmbo on May 22, 2009 6:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Most of us here expected a .500 season, but I think I expected a .500 season from scrappy, come from behind, gritty, gamery, hard fought games. Wow! they actually came back and WON that one, what potential for the future!!

I figured they’d lose a lot, but when they’d win it’d be an exhilarating victory of victories.
It’s the way they are losing these games that makes me want to throw things through the television.

I didn’t expect this .500 season in reverse. My hopes get built up, they’re winning the game, things are looking good, and then comes the dark cloud of doom. (doom often being spelled: b-u-l-l-p-e-n or b-a-d – d-e-f-e-n-s-e) The games they are losing they are losing in negative fashion. It doesn’t give me hope for the future when the future is out there flailing about in need of life support.

Stupid .500 baseball.

by Merope on May 22, 2009 6:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Brian Wilson is making a fan out of my wife.

Usually she watches the game with me, but she doesn’t really get involved. She thinks some of the players are interesting, feels bad for Bengie because he’s so slow.

But now she has developed a seething hatred for Brian Wilson that’s given her much more stake in the game. She spent all of the ninth inning yelling at him to throw fucking strikes.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 22, 2009 7:07 AM PDT reply actions  

she feels bad for Bengie because he's so slow

lol

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lack of body bias.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on May 22, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Slow?

I think Rapid Leg Movement Challenged is the correct term these days

~wake me up when they score some runs~

by HarshInFresno on May 22, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t watch much of the game. I’ve felt run down and exhausted all week and I decided to go to bed early last night. I watched the ninth inning: Pablo! Classy RBI from Randy Winn! But when Wilson came into the game for the bottom half of the inning I turned off the TV and went to sleep. Because I knew. I knew what was coming and I didn’t feel like eschewing precious and necessary sleep to watch it.

I hate Brian Wilson.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Decision 2009

Sergio Romo for closer!

Roger Connor was both active and nimble and did fully as well if not better in the fielding line than his contemporaries. -Sam Crane

by frickinoaf on May 22, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions  

vote yes

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

why did he pitch almost three innings the other night? Are they bringing him back as a long reliever? Are they crazy?

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on May 22, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can only answer one question: are they crazy? The answer is yes.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:55 AM PDT reply actions  

goddamn reply fail

Meant as a response to rxmeister. I blame Brian Wilson.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

And you guys removed my post.....

…about Lowery having a rib removed and never leaving the house…. That post was the most entertaining thing to come out of the Giants all week. I demand it’s return.

no I don’t

~wake me up when they score some runs~

by HarshInFresno on May 22, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

You could at least spell the guy’s name correctly.

by Natto on May 22, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhhhh,

reading Grant’s posts after a shit sandwich like that is pure catharsis. Fuck that game in the earhole.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 22, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Wilson was picking at the corners

With Gwynn as well, mostly with breaking stuff. I think that’s proof that maybe he needs to be moved out of the role until he finds his fastball.

Question: What kind of bear is best?

by otis29 on May 22, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

PABLO SHOULD BE HIS PERSONAL CATCHER!!1ELEVEN

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 22, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either way

If they are calling for breaking stuff because they know Wilson can’t locate the fastball…

Question: What kind of bear is best?

by otis29 on May 22, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best write up this year, by a long shot.

gully

by DanRed on May 22, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Ahhhh, someone else that shares my frustration. Fresno State football and Giants baseball. Hey maybe you and I can meet up and share some stories of frustrations gone awry, days and days of yelling at the TV but still saying how Coach Hill is still the best coach money can buy. Then maybe we can pick up on some chix and have our way with them…. yea, the interwebs is cool.

See ya at the Hoffbrow (the one thats still open) tonight around 7?

Or not.

~wake me up when they score some runs~

by HarshInFresno on May 22, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It could be worse

We could all be Nationals or Orioles fans instead

by Mrbasepaul on May 22, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

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