Brandon Crawford is white!?
Confusion over minor league players' racial identity is something of a running joke on MCC. Which players did you incorrectly think were white/black/etc.?
Mine:
- I heard about Jerome Williams for a couple of years without realizing he was black before seeing his picture in Baseball America. This is back at a time when there weren't a lot of really famous black guys from Hawaii.
- I was really surprised when I first saw Khalil Greene as a rookie and he was a blonde-haired white guy. I mean, his name's Khalil!
- I always thought Billy Sadler was black until I first saw him on tv. During his first cup of coffee, I was out of the Bay Area and listening on gameday audio, so this confusion lasted for some time after his debut. I have no idea why I thought he was black.
- I never would've guessed Marvin Benard was Nicararaguan, given his name. His middle name is Larry, even!
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HOWIE KENDRICK
REGGIE WILLITS
DAMN YOU ANGELS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Let's make predictions
I don’t know, but my guess is Donovan Tate is white.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
wait
You’re telling me Grant Green isn’t actually green?
Shit.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not easy being Grant.
Wait, I think I did that wrong.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
Grant Green...............My Favorite Jazz Guitarist

Tommy Lasorda HATES GIANTSBOARD.COM
Cut and Pasted Blog redundancy can be a good thing
Say Hey! Say Who? Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!
He’s good, but I prefer Charlie Christian. (If Charlie Christian was a baseball player, would we guess his race wrong?)
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
Yup
After I posted that I looked him up. Oh well. I think I associated him with Landon Donovan in my mind.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
Frenchy, and look how that turned out
Proud leader of the Lunatic Fringe breaking off from the Lunatic Fringe of McCovey Chronicles
still laughing at KLaw's epic burn of Francoeur
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
This one?
J. Francoeur (Atlanta, GA): If on-base percentage is so important, then why don’t they put it up on the scoreboard?
Keith Law: They do. But if you can’t tell the difference between a ball and a strike, what are the odds you can read a three-digit acronym that’s 400 feet away?
SOOOOO EPIC
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
yes
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
sick burn
by the KLAW
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on May 20, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
obey the KLaw
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 20, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Jay Bruce maybe. They do exist, it’s just like 95% non-white.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
Todd Linden?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
Based on the photo here, it looks like Donavan Tate is another Grady Sizemore.
BTW I’m not sure whether his first name is spelled Donovan or Donavan. Both seem to be widely used on the web, but Donavan seems to be more common, so I went with that.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
I'm not sure about anything...
…but I thought Kidd was also biracial, which is what I was saying about Tate (alluding to the Sizemore revelations downthread).
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
Ditto on Khalil.
I assumed Garrett Anderson and former Giants farmhand Joe Bateman were white. Grady Sizemore I thought was black, although now that I think about it Grady Sizemore sounds like a perfectly good redneck name.
I never would’ve guessed Bruce Chen was Panamanian.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
Grady is biracial, actually.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Yeah
Mom is white. Dad is black. LIKE DEREK JETER!!!1
Judgment Day is coming
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Darn him!
He continues to stymie my attempts to stereotype him!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
really?
I had no idea, he looks really white.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
And he’s into S&M
Tommy Lasorda HATES GIANTSBOARD.COM
Cut and Pasted Blog redundancy can be a good thing
Say Hey! Say Who? Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!
I thought Sizemore was black too, until someone made an absolute fool out of me. Which seems to happen too often these days.
Proud father of Barry Zito. As long as he keeps throwing strikes, that is.
Those of us who read Bill Simmons regularly might suggest that Crawford be nominated to the Reggie Cleveland All-Stars.
"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09
Oh, and Marco Scutaro being Venezuelan.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
The name would be harder to explain then “Marvin Larry Benard” otherwise.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
There’s a few other Italian-Venezuelans running around, too.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Francisco Cervelli
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I always thought the Diamondbacks’ Chris Young was white, probably because the other Chris Young is.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
Beckhams
Tim and Gordon should team up for a buddy cop movie.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
gettin' too old for this shit
Look they even have big hair for the white one.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Always though Rajai Davis was white….kidding. But seriously, Kevin Pucetas, thought the dude was hispanic for a long time. I don’t really know if the name is hispanic. But not the name I would expect from a guy who looks like a Nebraska farmer.
On the run from Johnny Law, aint no trip to Cleveland, or San Francisco.
When I first heard his name I was totally hoping he was Indian. You know, India Indian.
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 21, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
like Raj Matthai?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 22, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Thomas Neal made me think of a white guy. I also did not know Ben Brewer of the Brewers (omg nowai) was a fast black guy. When I saw him pinch run in ST I was all, “oh.” I thought Huston Street was black when I heard his name.
Oh and guess the race of one Padres farmhand: Wynn Pelzer.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions
I also did not know Ben Brewer of the Brewers (omg nowai) was a fast black guy.
I misread this at first and gave it my best “BERNIE BREWER IS BLACK?”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Chatterbalks dot com: Still with jokes. Now with updates.
If Brent Brewer fufills his promise then he will be the greatest face of a franchise EVER!
Proud leader of the Lunatic Fringe breaking off from the Lunatic Fringe of McCovey Chronicles
Brent Brewer, damn it
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh and guess the race of one Padres farmhand: Wynn Pelzer.
5 KM Speedwalking?
SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!
by BruteSentiment on May 19, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude is totally a steeple-chaser.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I’ve noticed stereotypes in my thinking when I read a scouting report. If a player is listed as toolsy, I usually think they are black. Conversely, grinder/gritty/gets more out of his talents/etc. end up being white in my mind. I think it’s part my own stereotyping and part experience. By experience, I mean that those biases get put into scouting reports initially, and I have learned that and so my mind guides my thoughts one way or the other. Or, maybe I’m just a racist dick.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
Dick, probably
At least you’re not as bad as the people who tout the seriousness and efficiency of Asian* baseball!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Success!
I’m better than Joe Morgan.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
It definitely affects the way players are described. A few years ago ESPN picked the top-30 grttiest players, and I think 29 of them were white (the other being Juan Pierre).
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!
I hope.
fuck Juan Pierre
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
And that's another confusing name
His first name makes him sound Dominican, his last name makes him sound Haitian. He’s from Alabama.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Isn’t he like a hero in Haiti though? Is it just cuz his grandparents are part Haitian or something?
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 21, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I did some Googling, and no, he’s not of Haitian descent. The French last name comes from his family’s background in Louisiana.
He’s named Juan after Juan Marichal, apparently.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Steve Phillips did the same thing during Sunday's game
He listed a bunch of “team leaders” and they were all white except for Pujols.
Baron's right. But it is also partially driven by media shortcuts
For years, black baseball players were patronizingly described as “natural talents” at whatever position. This was thought to be a compliment by the whiteys who were saying it, but in fact was a dismissal of the work, thought, creativity (tool #19 on the Jenkins “list”) those guys put in. So I wonder if “toolsy” is the new “natural talent,” and is just the new version of stereotyping and shortcutting the media use.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on May 19, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
whenever I read “toolsy” I think that the guy is just a football player who plays baseball – great athlete, not that good at baseball
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 20, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it me, or are well ranked prep pitchers almost always white?
Wisconsin: Famous for dairy, Ryan Rohlinger and not much else.
Lots of pitchers are white, period. I have to admit I’m surprised when I see an African-American pitcher. I’m not talking the darker Latin Americans, either. I’m talking Jerome Williams et. al.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
One year when Jerome Williams was in the Giants’ rotation, I remember reading he was the only African-American starting pitcher for any team west of the Mississippi.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Dunno...Ask Dwight Gooden
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by Mordy From Monsey on May 19, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but how many African-American pitchers are there these days? CC, David Price, James McDonald, Latroy Hawkins, Darren Oliver. Are there any others? Sure, there were more historically, but these days there are very few.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I forgot David Price was black. His picture always has a question mark over it or whatever.
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 21, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Brien Taylor
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 20, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
One of only two #1 overall draft picks who never made the majors, incidentally.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Lastings Milledge
Sounds like the name of a guy who would be hanging out with Milhouse Van Houten.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Friends with Tanner Scheppers perhaps?
Wisconsin: Famous for dairy, Ryan Rohlinger and not much else.
“I don’t see color. People tell me I’m white and I believe them because police officers call me ‘sir’. "
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Freddie Freeman of the Braves. Also, this is a real bad story, when I was really little (only7-8 years ago) I thought Omar Vizquel was black because I had this baseball card of him that was a misprint and he was black on it. Then I saw him on the TV and he, clearly, was not black. The card is the 1997 Fleer Ultra Vizquel card
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
lol
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I had no idea Lincecum was part-Asian until earlier this year
unless this was some sick joke played on me by the people here
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
But all the same...
…you should take anything you hear on MCC with a grain of rice.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
Chone Figgins
Not in a million years would you have convinced me it’s allegedly pronounced Shawn. One day I’m going to have a son, and I’ll spell his name Jack, but tell people it’s pronounced Shawn.
Wait, what are we talking about again?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
He should hang out with Chan Marshall.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
yeah. I refuse it pronounce it Shawn. He’s on the Angels, so fuck him. It’s CHONE.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 20, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you pronounce it Cho-knee or Ch-own? I say “Shown”. I also always say his full name, and yell his last name in a high-pitched squeal, sort of like with ichiro.
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 21, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Daniel Murphy
Called him Dale for the first month of the season and assumed he was black.
"You ask for game winning hits, I give you Eugenio Velez"
by The Gene Hackman on May 19, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions
Juan Carlos Lopez
we went to high school together. Dude had blond hair and blue eyes…
as for baseball players Kendrick and Willits are the only two that I can think of recently.
Seriously, has anyone seen my adopted brother?
how is it that he had visa problems?
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 20, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Do not ask me why. But for the longest time i thought Rich Aurilia was black. I was also like 6, but still.
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 19, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions
Michael Ambort
I thought he was a cyborg cousin of Ryan Spilbourghs. Who knew?
Sir Alex Omar Hinshaw: It's not right if it's not left.
Ambort isn’t a cyborg?!?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
Bud and Reggie
Funny how guys named Black tend to be white and guys named White tend to be black.
by VidaWantsYourCar on May 19, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
Bloodhound Gang
I’m not black like Barry White, no, I’m white like Frank Black is.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
Oh and in the movie Sugar, there’s a highly touted kid moving through the team’s system named some generic white kid name like Brad or something. He’s from Stanford and everyone speaks glowingly of him.
When you see him on screen for the first time, he’s a wiry black guy.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions
and he listens to TV on the Radio
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
MY MIND HAS CHANGED MY BODY'S FRAME BUT GOD I LIKE IT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
There was a funny scene in the movie when Brad or whatever asks the Dominican kid if he likes TV on the Radio. The kid just goes “….?”
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
TV on the Radio are like the indie music version of this thread. Them and Lightspeed Champion.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
i wanna see that so bad? Capsule review?
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Great film
Sad, realistic view of the Dominican kids who don’t make it in baseball in the states. Funny when it needs to be, touching when it needs to be, but never lays it on too thick.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent it sounds like what I hoped it would be, brutally honest
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by TexasRanger on May 20, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
agree with the Baron
great movie – I loved it. Recommended for sure. And the re-purposed Quad Cities Swing unis were a hoot.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
yes
Loved that.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 20, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Hi.
My name is Otis. And I’m white.
Really, it’s as much an age as a race thing. 90% of the other Otises I’ve ever met are black guys over the age of 60.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Otis Redding
Otis Nixon
Hm…I see your point.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Otis Anderson, the old running back for the Ny Giants.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
My first thought was Otis McDowell, and then I couldn’t find anything about him, and I was really confused, and then I realized his name was ODDIBE McDowell. Which is a crazy first name for any race or ethnicity.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
What about Otis from the Andy Griffiths Show?
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on May 19, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
90% of the Otises I have met...
…were elevators.
Are you related to xanthan?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
And you are one of my two exceptions to the "Dislike/distrust people with two first names" rule.
The other is a lovely woman I know.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on May 19, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Really because the Nathaniel Lee I know is black
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by TexasRanger on May 20, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
OMG you were “Ice Boy on the Right with Straw Hat”?! Can I get your autograph?!?!
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 21, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I never really understood if Semitic people are considered Caucasian or not.
I JUST DONT KNOW WHO I AM.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!
I hope.
According to the census, us heebs and ragheads are all white.
The census: bringing together warring ethnic groups through arbitrary non-distinction.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
And, technically, southern Asians (ie, Indians) are Caucasian, too. What about them apples?
This obviously doesn’t hold true in terms of the census, but biologically – and if you buy into biological race theory – it’s certainly true.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
South Asians are counted as Asian in the Census. However, they’re sometimes classified as Caucasian due to the Aryan connection. By which I mean Indo-Europeans, not Hitler propaganda.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
apples? heebs? How old are you ppl with your 50s racist slang?
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 21, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The Census defines you as white/Caucasian if your people come from Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. General public perception in America is another question, though.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Public perception is probably that Jews are white but Arabs aren’t, right? But that probably has more to do with the fact that most American Jews came from eastern Europe.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!
I hope.
I’d say that’s a fair assessment. Turks, Afgahnis and Iranians would probably be seen as non-white by a large majority, too.
It probably also has to with Jews being more long-established in the United States and not presently being seen as The Enemy.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
To be honest, I’d guess that Turks, Afgahnis and Iranians would probably be seen as Arabs by the majority of people.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!
I hope.
True. Hell, even Indians (the South Asian kind) get mistaken for Arabs regularly.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Wait, does that mean Alex Hinshaw isn’t white either? It’s hard to keep up sometimes.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
He's a Halfghani
I’m so confused.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 20, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Jews are ethnically distinct (as opposed to racially) like Irish or Italian, but I have never met nor seen a Jew who did not have white skin. So if you think of race as skin color than there ya go. Oddly enough the Irish were not considered white in the 19th century so that just goes to show you lame it all is. Whatevs.
Again, you’ve never seen a Jewish person who didn’t have white skin because you live in America, and the vast majority of American Jews come from Central and Eastern Europe.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!
I hope.
I always thought those named Otis...
….were short with dark eyes and blonde or light brown hair.

I’m such a speciesist.
SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!
by BruteSentiment on May 19, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Noonan eh?
I didn’t get black from that, but I did get cheesy 70s newscaster guy.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
this
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Eugenio "Van Camper" Velez
I thought he was a ballplayer
Tommy Lasorda HATES GIANTSBOARD.COM
Cut and Pasted Blog redundancy can be a good thing
Say Hey! Say Who? Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!
You thought wrong.
"One percent of ballplayers are leaders of men. The other ninety-nine percent are followers of women."-John McGraw, NY Giants Baseball Club
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
barry white…
seriously, career achievement award for most opposite name
i adopt Les Plack, D.D.S. for the following reasons:
1. greatest name for occupation ever (except maybe lesbian prostitute sharon bottoms)
2. i am hoping for free dental care from my son (if he ever hears of this)
3. When asked a question about how he felt about Manny being suspended, Les replied "All smiles"
by Headhunter Rollins on May 19, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions
In the Pre-Selig Days
American League President Bobby Brown
National League President Bill White
Tommy Lasorda HATES GIANTSBOARD.COM
Cut and Pasted Blog redundancy can be a good thing
Say Hey! Say Who? Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!
He sounds like a stuffy upper-crust snobbish white guy.
Judgment Day is coming
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He isn’t? I was ready to be very surprised by his blackness. I was let down.
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 21, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Her name is Pinto because it sets her on fire if I tap her from behind.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on May 19, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the greatest joke ever. Seriously. Shut it down folks.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
Red Sox had a player named Troy O’Leary. I thought he was Irish and not black.
How about on personal level?? I know someone named Tyrone and he’s Chinese.
I know two Chinese guys named Tyrone.
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on May 19, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Just Sayin'
The meaning of the name Tyrone is: From The Land Of Eoghan
The origin of the name Tyrone: is Irish
Notes: Tyrone Power, actor. Eoghan means land of the Yew Tree.
"One percent of ballplayers are leaders of men. The other ninety-nine percent are followers of women."-John McGraw, NY Giants Baseball Club
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
wasnt tyr the norse god of war? there may be multiple meanings to some names…
i adopt Les Plack, D.D.S. for the following reasons:
1. greatest name for occupation ever (except maybe lesbian prostitute sharon bottoms)
2. i am hoping for free dental care from my son (if he ever hears of this)
3. When asked a question about how he felt about Manny being suspended, Les replied "All smiles"
by Headhunter Rollins on May 20, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LaTroy Hawkins...
just screams WHITE to me
Greatest sports name of all time: D’Brickashaw Ferguson
How ’bout a a running back named Ran? One of my friends in high school played d-line and his last name was Sackman.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Josh Outman is a pretty great name for a pitcher too.
Seriously, has anyone seen my adopted brother?
Robert Person! He is black too. Also hit two home runs in a game as the starting pitcher, one a grand slam.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 20, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds white to me...
Orenthal James Simpson
Leading the Pro-Aaron Rowand contingent on the McC!
You can ridicule me in 2009 if you like...
What about the most ambiguous names? Like Sam Clark or something?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
As a SF sports fan that was born in the 80's, this came to mind immediately
and 
Seriously, has anyone seen my adopted brother?
I used to think that Willie Mays was African American
Was I surprised to find out that he is a white jewish guy from the Bronx.
I thought Lance Berkman was black until I saw him.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
I had no idea
Pablo Sandoval was asian.
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on May 20, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
And Chan Ho Park is Puerto Rican
Who knew?
Tommy Lasorda HATES GIANTSBOARD.COM
Cut and Pasted Blog redundancy can be a good thing
Say Hey! Say Who? Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!

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