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Giants/Padres Series Preview

It's not quite a preview, I guess. Don't be so literal.

Here's a snippet from a past reality:

Jon Daniels: Hey, do you want to take Adrian Gonzalez off our hands? He was a first overall pick in the draft, but he’s only been productive in the minors. What a disappointment. Plus, I have a crippling fear of the letter "Z" – I’m in medical journals and everything.

Kevin Towers: Uh, okay.

Jon Daniels: We’ll give you the only pitcher in the past decade to pitch well for us, too. Really tall people give me the willies.

Towers: Uh, okay.

Daniels: All we want in exchange is a brittle right-hander under contract for one more year and a sore-armed reliever who will pitch 90 innings for us over the next two years.

Towers: Uh, okay.

Daniels hangs up the phone, and sits back in his chair

Daniels: Jon, old boy, you are a mesmerizing, brilliant man who is not afraid to take advantage of a peer.

...and from an alternate Reality:

Jon Daniels: Hey, Sabes, you can just have this Adrian Gonzalez guy. I’m tired of waiting for him.

Brian Sabean: Gonzalez? Never heard of him. What team was he playing for in ’96?

Daniels: I think he was in middle school.

Sabean: Wait, he’s a young player? (makes sign of the cross) Yeah, this isn’t my first rodeo. Find another sucker.

Daniels: I’ll throw in Chris Young too! That’ll help you replace Jason Schmidt.

Sabean: Schmidt? Where’s he going?

Daniels: In the trade to us for Adrian Gonzalez and Chris Young? If you throw in Armando Benites, I’ll throw in this Edinson Volquez guy in the low minors. I have a crippling fear of the letter "Z" – I’m in medical journals and everything.

Sabean: Wait, but Benitez is spelled with a "Z."

click

Sabean: Hello? Hello? Bah. Like I was going to do that anyways. Rubber-armed ace and a proven closer for that flotsam? When I already have J.T. Snow? Ha. Ha, I say.

To be fair, I have no idea if I would have traded Schmidt for Gonzalez and Young in 2006. I’d like to think I would, but I’m not sure. This was just a case of one team having the right parts and being in the right place when another general manager is being silly. But being fair is lame.

Man, how I mildly dislike the Padres. Their park annoys me too – the Giants already have only warning-track power, so they don’t need a park that humiliates them further.

This is the first series of the year in San Diego. Yep. First one. You’d think they’d have played there earlier, but nope. This is the first trip there, alright. So it should be interesting.

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I dislike the Padres, too, for the most part. I think part of it is their radio guy. I always hear him on XM and he’s very annoying.

by xanthan on May 19, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

“Winfield goes back to the wall, he hits his head on the wall and it rolls off! It’s rolling all the way back to second base. This is a terrible thing for the Padres.” – Jerry Coleman

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

those are the best.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a hilarious list of Colemanisms at Baseball Almanac. I don’t recommend drinking while you read.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 19, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the mound is Randy Jones, the left-hander with the Karl Marx hairdo.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Those amateur umpires are certainly flexing their fangs tonight.”

by kaliber on May 19, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you’re referring to Ted Leitner, not Jerry Coleman.

Leitner is the unctuous, unbearably smug, cornball guy who frequently refers to the Padres as “MYYYYYY Padres!!”

Coleman is the elderly mainstay who frequently loses track of where the ball is, where the baserunner is, where he is… He is known for catchphrases such as “HANG A STAR ON THAT ONE!!” and, “Ohhhhh, DOCTOR!!”

On second thought, there’s no telling which one you’re referring to.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 19, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure either, but from your descriptions it sounds like Leitner.

by xanthan on May 19, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hairston series prediction:

.365/.500/.650 2 2B 2 HR 8 RBI

Someone get Damon Minor's agent on the phone stat!

by fanofvanlandingham on May 19, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

I predict him to slump too against us.

by Giant Voodoo on May 19, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must be confused, nobody with that last named has played in the majors.

Wisconsin: Famous for dairy, Ryan Rohlinger and not much else.

by Scottsdale on May 19, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hairston looks like a hairless gorilla. I hate him.

by Norm Median on May 19, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never trust a man without a neck.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

As Mayor pere used to say:

they ruined a perfectly good prick when they put ears on that guy.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 19, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh snap

I forgot to pick hairston up in my fantasy league and start him :( God dammit

by jctGamer on May 19, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

but it will feel like

he went 12 for 12 with 25 HRs and 14 game saving catches in the 3 game series

Seriously, has anyone seen my adopted brother?

by j14 on May 19, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

how are we going to get him out half the time?

did he lose a limb?

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on May 19, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Padres = meh

Hairston is the devil.

by Lars The Wanderer on May 19, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Tommy Lasorda HATES GIANTSBOARD.COM
Cut and Pasted Blog redundancy can be a good thing
Say Hey! Say Who? Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!

by merkin on May 19, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hairston.

And if you need to ask you need to be buying for the rest of us.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 19, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fucking HATE Giles! Hairston is very punchable, but Giles is my #1!

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on May 19, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

This will always be enjoyable. Watch “Giants win it in the 9th”.

by Natto on May 19, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, I enjoyed that.

Osiris, lord of the dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on May 19, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That WILL always be enjoyable!

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 19, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hairston. He is Hitler-Satan. I severely dislike Giles, but Hairston is the worst.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 19, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did the crazy guy from Platoon sign with the Padres?

by Lars The Wanderer on May 19, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks more like Clay Aiken.

by Natto on May 19, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on May 19, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Giants already have only warning-track power, so they don’t need a park that humiliates them further.

So does this mean you are calling for a Zorak inside the park home run in this series?

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 19, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m hoping Zorak’s skinny ass stays firmly glued to the bench for this series.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on May 19, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

but Big Head has no one else to use in double switch!

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 19, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fresno’s bench?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
Chatterbalks dot com: Still with jokes. Now with updates.

by groug on May 19, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then who would the Big Head have to use in double switches!?!?!

Do you really want to see Big Head wondering around the dugout muttering to himself and getting more and more distracted as he desperately looks for someone not in the line up or injured to use?

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 19, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you really want to see Big Head wondering around the dugout muttering to himself and getting more and more distracted

Maybe if he is distracted, he won’t be able to make the double switch. You may be on to something here.

"One percent of ballplayers are leaders of men. The other ninety-nine percent are followers of women."-John McGraw, NY Giants Baseball Club

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on May 19, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

defensive substitution!

Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.

by rightcenterfielder on May 19, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I want

is Dirty to get back to form really.

by Giant Voodoo on May 19, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

which form?

he’s got two…

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on May 19, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Petco Park=Dustin Mohr crumpling on the bullpen mound trying to catch that pop fly. The Giants could play 1,000 more games there and that’s still the only thing I’d end up replaying in my head.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on May 19, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

HAD TO REMIND US? D:

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on May 19, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry. I suffer from the exact opposite of repressed memory syndrome.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on May 19, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’re telling me

On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.

by GameSix on May 20, 2009 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just glanced at the photo and I thought the bug-eyed Padres guy was getting beat up in a baseball brawl. Oh well.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I kind of have a hard time hating the Padres. I always liked Tony Gwynn, and while I’ve never been to San Diego, my parents went to UCSD and I think my dad had some residual fondness for them.

There are several individual Padres I’ve had no problems hating, mind you. Steve Garvey *, Steve Finley, Khalil Greene, and Scott Hairston, I’m looking at you!

  • - Yes, I know Garvey is mainly remembered and hated as a Dodger. But I was only two or so when he left the Dodgers, so I remember him as a Padre.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I also used to really want the Giants to get Brian Giles to play right field back in the day when he was a Pirate. I know he’s become hated here, and that sounds like blasphemy, but at the time it would’ve been a good move.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to UCSD...

…and in fact I was there when the Padres went to their first Serious in 84. You never saw such an explosion of fairweather fans. So I hate them for that.

Also, for these hideous unis.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 19, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You never saw such an explosion of fairweather fans.

Angels 2002. Man, that pissed me off.

Osiris, lord of the dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on May 19, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

RALIE MUNKIZ!

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 19, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

… flyin’ right out my arse.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 19, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everything about the Angels that post-season still makes me angry. Those fuckers.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 19, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no recollection of whatever you’re talking about.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 19, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

TEACH ME HOW TO FORGET

Osiris, lord of the dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on May 19, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

step one: drink heavily for 5 or 6 years.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

/grabs calculator and crunches numbers

Just one or two more years to go!

Osiris, lord of the dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on May 19, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard Vida Blue refer to those uni’s LIVE ON KNBR after a game a few years back as “Baby Shit Yellow” uniforms.

He then realized he shouldn’t have said it on the air, but the host was too busy cracking up to care.

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 19, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

best

I love Vida.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 19, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Predictions

Giants SLG for the series. Keep in mind that we’ve been slugging .370, and that’s while playing half our games at home, and without having even been to Petco.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!

I hope.

by Cookyman on May 19, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I won’t predict SLG because batting average is too random. But I will predict an ISO (SLG-AVG) of .010 (“courtesy double” when Giles misplays a grounder)

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on May 19, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

We’re facing Correia in two days.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!

I hope.

by Cookyman on May 19, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

He will shut us down with 0 walks and 15 strikeouts.

by Natto on May 19, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m more worried about Chad Gaudin. I really wanted him when he went on waivers. He’s a former “A”, so he’ll probably dominate us.

by BigO on May 19, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Step away from my ouija board!

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 19, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont overestimate the Giants offense

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 19, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The mention of Correia reminded me of how he was the first member of his draft class to make the majors, which made me wonder who else the Giants drafted that year. They got Cain in the first and Lewis in the second and Ortmeier in the third, so it was a pretty good year. Ishikawa in the 21st, too. And Clay Hensley, who they later traded for Matt Herges. Hooray. And it was one of the 10 times they drafted Hinshaw.

What gave me a chuckle is 16th round draft pick Greg Bruso (later traded for Eric Young, never made the majors). He’s listed as being 0’0" and 0 pounds. No wonder he didn’t make it.

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/team/draft.jsp?c_id=sf&year=2002

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Body bias.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!

I hope.

by Cookyman on May 19, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lack-of-body bias.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 19, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matthew Tiberius Cain

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

if 2002 was a good year check out the disastrous 2005 draft, I lol’d

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/team/draft.jsp?c_id=sf&year=2005

Ron Wotus for Manager or Roberto Kelly.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on May 19, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

JOEY!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 19, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

ROMO!

HINSHAW!

That’s not too bad. We really fucked up getting rid of the top 3 picks though.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 19, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess we must have gotten Thomas Neal that year too, though the site says he didn’t sign. But he’s not listed in our drafts any later years.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was the year we drafted Neal. Not sure why it doesn’t list the signing date.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t he a draft and follow? I know Sanders was, and maybe I’m just combining them.

by kaliber on May 19, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neal was a draft-and-follow too.

by Grant Brisbee on May 19, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

wasn't that the year

Brain basically admitted to signing lame free agents to AVOID having draft picks?

Might have been earlier, I forget. In any case, looking at the draft list illustrates why this team is so lousy offensively today.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

card carrying Bochy Hatter

by natteringnabob on May 19, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that was the year before, when we signed Tucker to intentionally punt the draft pick. The next year, it was Moises, Matheny and Omar, I think, that cost us our first three picks

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 19, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that was 2004. We signed Michael Tucker in Dec. 2003 to lose a draft pick on purpose.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

worth every penny

I think I saw him hit a homer into the cove once against the Rockies. That made it all worthwhile.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

card carrying Bochy Hatter

by natteringnabob on May 19, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hit two grand slams in two weeks against the Rockies!

by Natto on May 19, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was cool, I remember that.

As for the rest of his Giants tenure… well…

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 19, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

he did get into a fight with Jeff Weaver, so he did display the proper amount of Dodger hate.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was about to mention this.

by Natto on May 19, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course, had they waited like a week or whatever it was to sign him, you still could have had that and they wouldn’t have lost the pick.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I want Michael Tucker NOW!!

by Natto on May 19, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Veruca

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, back with the big team!

by WalrusMan on May 20, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

2005 was the year we gave up a 1st round pick (that could’ve been used on Jacoby Ellsbury or Matt Garza) to get Benitez, a 2nd round pick to get Matheny, and a 3rd round pick to get Vizquel. Only one of those receives my retroactive stamp of approval.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 19, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes, Benitez, not Alou. Not Sabes’s greatest moment.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 19, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't worry

we wouldn’t have drafted either of them

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

card carrying Bochy Hatter

by natteringnabob on May 19, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alexander O Hinshaw

I didn’t know he was Irish.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol yes he was a leprechaun at one point, still looking for that pot of gold.

Ron Wotus for Manager or Roberto Kelly.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on May 19, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

2004 was pretty bad. We got Bowker and Frandsen, but that’s about it:

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/team/draft.jsp?c_id=sf&year=2004

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

EME!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 19, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

D’oh, missed him.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jonathan O Sanchez

Didn’t know he was Irish, too.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

regarding our warning track power, maybe we get a bunch of texas leaguers this series? but the real issue is how the infield plays, as that is more pertinent to our overwhelming ground attack.

Choppin' broccoli

by SimpleJaquez on May 19, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I pity Texas

They got manhandled by Towers in that trade. Also please beat the Padres, they suck now.

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 19, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

It sure is a good thing our GM has never made a trade that bad!

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But its weird to see it happen to someone else. Im numb to our bad trades now

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 19, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, great convo's

I loved that trade or SD back in the day, Adrian even had a nice finish in TEX before the trade I believe

by NeifiChicken on May 19, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

lol
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by cloudydays on May 19, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

just win the series, damn it.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

just win baby

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by SoFa King Mike on May 19, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, I have no idea if I would have traded Schmidt for Gonzalez and Young in 2006. I’d like to think I would, but I’m not sure.

I think that you, along with most of us on this board, would’ve made that trade. But I think the larger point is that Brian Sabean most assuredly would not have.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

FAILez in center tonight

Wow.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on May 19, 2009 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

WHY

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by jponry on May 19, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously, why?

Why not Winn in CF, Schierholtz in RF?

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by jponry on May 19, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

at this point

would anyone be surprised that Bochy is gambling on baseball…. but only betting on his team to WIN (some days)

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by zenbitz on May 19, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember, Velez has ownership of Chris Young. 5 for 9 career.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

and after tonight, he’ll be 5 for 12.

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by jponry on May 19, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 for 13

He’s hitting lead off, so he get’s 4 AB’s when the opposing pitcher only gives up 1 hit.

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by Azmanz on May 19, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

And defense has ownership of Velez. Over/under on plays that elicit a facepalm: 2.

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by cornball on May 19, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

the full line up

CF Velez
SS Frandsen
3B Sandoval
C Molina
RF Winn
LF Lewis
1B Aurilia
2B Burriss
P Zito

I think Bochy is trying to put the worst fielding line up possible behind zito

by superk1ng on May 19, 2009 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I really just don’t get Frandsen at short and Burriss at second.

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by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get Velez in the lineup.

by Natto on May 19, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get Velez on the team.

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by groug on May 19, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a lot I don’t get about this lineup.

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by neurofarm on May 19, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're reading it backwards

Bochy meant
P Zito
2B Burriss
1B Aurilia
LF Lewis
RF Winn
C Molina
3B Sandoval
SS Frandsen
CF Velez

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by merkin on May 19, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the logic is that if you look at Burriss as the second baseman of the future, you should play him at second base. Velez in center, I can’t fathom.

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by Johnny Disaster on May 19, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does Velez lead off when he plays?

Like, as bad a choice as I thought Burriss was to lead off, Velez is like a hundred times worse.

Dude is hitting .111/.143/.148.

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by jponry on May 19, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burriss OBP: .326
Velez OPS: .291

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by neurofarm on May 19, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Facepalm.

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by cornball on May 19, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

If they really wanted speed at the top of the lineup BURRISS IS RIGHT THERE!

by superk1ng on May 19, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

HE’S WALKING IN ALMOST THREE AND A HALF PERCENT OF HIS PLATE APPEARANCES

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by groug on May 19, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, in what fucking universe does this make any sense?

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by groug on May 19, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just ridiculous… I mean, yeah, only 27 ABs so far but he has shown LESS THAN NOTHING SO FAR.

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by jponry on May 19, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember a few days ago, I questioned hitting Burriss leadoff, and groug gave an analysis about why that made sense – he’s hitting better than several other guys lately, he can’t hit behind Molina because of his lack of power, etc.

Obviously, groug was barking up the wrong tree – none of that would affect a Bruce Bochy lineup.

Burriss, and now Velez, are hitting leadoff because SPEED = LEADOFF HITTER.

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by jcb9 on May 19, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really should have taken that into account.

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by groug on May 19, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least Burriss is kind of competent at stealing bases.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 19, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed
Why does Velez lead off when he plays?

Really, if he has to be in the lineup, might as well be first as anywhere else.

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by EliminateMe on May 19, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

gets it over with quicker

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by rightcenterfielder on May 19, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Velez’s line is almost comical. Oh my lord, I am actually laughing right now.

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by PAWarrior on May 19, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to start Zito today..

then I realized after looking at that line up, he could get rocked.

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by Azmanz on May 19, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Massive Head failure putting Velez at the 1 spot. Velez and Richie should have stayed in SF, it’s not like they’re gonna show up anyways when they’re in the lineup.

Ron Wotus for Manager or Roberto Kelly.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on May 19, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol giants

Also, I’ll bet Eugenio’s misplays cause Zito to give up runs, which causes consternation over him not pitching to Sandoval.

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by groug on May 19, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Bochy wants a reason to start Pablo when Zito pitches

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by Azmanz on May 19, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its pretty obvious what theyre doing

They have to give Aurilia and Velez ABs to watch them fail, which will prompt them leave frandsen here instead of velez and swap Guzman in for richie.

by kvdp12 on May 19, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa

Giving Bochy and Sabes way too much credit there.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on May 19, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s the same reason Bochy is still the manager.

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by nostocksjustbonds on May 19, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about Torres? If you get rid of Velez and don’t bring Torres back, you only have 4 OF and no back-up that Bochy is comfortable playing in center.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 19, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lame. Velez should not be in the line-up, let alone leading off. Plus, how will Rowand prove Grant wrong tonight if he doesn’t get to play? And Aurilia, too? Bochy’s just messing with Zito’s head, now.

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by can of corn on May 19, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that under-4.00 ERA was nice while it lasted, wasn’t it, Z?

by shanghaijim on May 19, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bengie catching Zito is a nice development IMHO. I’m sure if/when Zito gets tagged, it will not happen again.

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by NuschlerFace on May 19, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

wth?
did Nate miss the bus or something?

by Merope on May 19, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants have the 3rd worst offense.. IN THE DIVISION. When did this happen?

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by Azmanz on May 19, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait, what?

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 19, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

As in..

We were the worst offense in the entire MLB (by somewhere around 15 runs) now we aren’t even the worst in our own division.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 19, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand what you’re saying, I just don’t understand how it happened.

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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since Velez

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by SoFa King Mike on May 19, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did anybody hear about the Giants Dr. Frankenstein doing their mad expierements on Noah Lowry.

At least he doesn’t have to pitch with this line up trying to provide No-Run support.

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Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on May 19, 2009 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I think poor old Noah’s done. After not pitching for two years, and now his third surgery, I just don’t see how he comes back. What’s the rehab time on removing a fucking rib? Its gotta be at least a year, and that’ll make at least three years without pitching. Sorry, Noah, you had good potential, but I don’t think it’s going to work out.

by quincy0191 on May 19, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Articles I saw said he’d be throwing in three months, which means he’d miss the rest of the season. So yes, 3+ years out of baseball. He sadly is done.

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by cornball on May 19, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Hampton?

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 19, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

BEAT LA!

GO NUGGS!

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 19, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate the Nuggets as much as the Lakers

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by PAWarrior on May 19, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.. why?

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by Azmanz on May 19, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK VELEZ

It needed o be said

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by PAWarrior on May 19, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

WHAT THE HELL

NOW HE MIGHT REPRODUCE

NICE JOB

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by groug on May 19, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be the first time he’s ever produced anything.

by Natto on May 19, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good night, so far

Nice to see Dontrelle pitch 6 shutout innings for Detroit.

by NearestNorwich on May 19, 2009 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually LOL'd when I saw Velez in center

It’s past anger. Bochy’s tanking to get more balls in the draft lottery, methinks.

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by Sammy Danger on May 19, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, the Giants want the #1 pick so they could draft LaBron James.

by SFGuy on May 19, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

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