Most Dispiriting Loss of the Season: Giants/Mets Recap
by Grant Brisbee on May 15, 2009 10:20 PM PDT
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PrintWith each 90 MPH fastball thrown by Tim Lincecum, I started to panic a little more on the inside. He was still getting the strikeouts, I was telling myself. His velocity is down for the year, but the results haven't really changed -- he's still a great pitcher. Right?
Then he'd throw 88 mph in the dirt, and my interior monologue would get going again. After a painful, laborious sixth inning, the pitcher's spot came up with two outs and a runner in scoring position. So Bochy obviously thought it was a good time to leave Lincecum in.
What would be worse: that Bochy doesn't know that Lincecum's velocity is down, or that he doesn't care? I go back and forth. But only one person watching tonight's game thought Lincecum had some more gas left in the tank, and that person happened to manage the Giants.
Oh, and the Giants' closer can't pitch in tie games.
Oh, and the 5 year/$60M center fielder has been one of the worst hitters in the game for about a year now. It's coming up on Aaron Rowand's End of Usefulness Anniversary. I have no idea what to get my wife.
Should I feel bad writing this when the Giants have two outs left? Ha. Eugenio Velez is hitting against Francisco Rodriguez, and Emmanuel Burriss is on deck. That's how you know a game is over. Hell, that's when you know that you were a fool to ever think this team was even on the fringes of contention. Oh, they're still above .500, but this is a bad team.
Maybe that's harsh, and maybe I'll lighten up tomorrow. But for the love of all that is holy, the Giants lost a Tim Lincecum/Livan Hernandez match-up.
Dammit.
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We all knew this game was over in the 9th. I don’t blame you at all.
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I knew it was over in the 6th
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by bondslegend on May 15, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I would potentially like to have a pitcher that can make it past the sixth inning on a regular basis. That would be nice.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
The thing is, that is a myth. Most teams don’t, and the few that do have 1 guy that does. Plus, Timmy is averaging ~6 1/3 innings per start, so he does.
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Actually
Cainer and Zito are too this year. And there are about 30 guys in 2008 that averaged 6 IP per start and pitched the whole year. That’s only an estimate, but you basically need to pitch 200 innings to do it.
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I knew it was over when Rowand pulled a Rowand in the 8th
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
"Oh, wait 'til I tell everyone I said 'Munson' to Munson."
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by Mayor of 311 on May 15, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This game was so mismanaged it is unbelievable.
BTW, Bochy, I hate you.
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on May 15, 2009 10:23 PM PDT reply actions
Though I am pleased with how Affeldt pitched tonight. But b/c of Bochy it was too little too late.
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on May 15, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
A sad silver lining
The worse we do, the more likely Bochy will be gone
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
Replace “Bochy” with “Sabean” and you’ve got my silver lining.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Out of frustration, I might not tune in
Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!
I'm not even going to think about it
SANTANA is pitching. For the love of christ, we couldn’t beat LIVAN HERNANDEZ, and we’re gonna win against Santana? Fuck no. This is a 4-game sweep, folks.
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by bondslegend on May 15, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
14-1 is almost better
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It’s an honest ass whooping. Better than vomiting all over yourself.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on May 16, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions
No excuses
It fell apart because Bochy left Lincecum out there too long. He was tired at the end of the 6th and Bochy threw him out there for the 7th. It was ridiculous.
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exactly
he looked pale and sick. and in the dugout he wasn’t his old fiery self.
+10000000000
he looked terrible on the bench- didn’t even react when runs were being scored. And not just “tired”, like he was barely there mentally, not like normal.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
card carrying Bochy Hatter
by natteringnabob on May 16, 2009 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions
That is my biggest beef with Bochy. He isn’t able to perceive when starting pitcher is out of gas until it is too late. How many times over the past two years has he sent a starter out for the 7th or 8th innings where everything falls apart? Far too many.
by Squire_Boone on May 15, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe the scientific term is " a shit ton"
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by bondslegend on May 15, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That's about right
This team is never gonna get any where until we have a manager who knows how to handle his pitchers.
Heck, we’re never gonna get anywhere if we continue to have pitchers who can’t get the ball in the strike zone.
by Squire_Boone on May 15, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
it works both ways though. If the guys in the bullpen (other than Affeldt) can’t get anyone out, why would you expect Bochy to EVER want to take his starters out? No way Timmy should have batted for himself (even though he got a hit) and started the seventh, but was anyone surprised when Merkin Valdez came in and the lead was gone in two seconds? I sure wasn’t. In fact I shut the volume on my TV as soon as Merkin took the mound, because I knew the Mets’ announcers were seconds away from squealing in ectasy.
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Come on Kuip. Please don’t make the excuse that “this team (the Giants) is banged up”. The Mets are 3X as injured as the Giants.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
And Flem makes the excuse that Timmy was left in because there was a thin bench and tired bullpen
by ho-hum baby on May 15, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a pretty lame excuse.
If there’s one pitcher on the team I wouldn’t want pitching tired, it’s Lincecum. At the risk of sounding a bit crass, its the AAAA middle relievers who should be taking one for the team, not the young ace.
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Dear Botchy
the bullpen is tired because you pitch the same guys every night, and the bench is thin because it has Aurilias and Velezes on it.
Signed,
Botchy Hatter
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on May 16, 2009 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions
not only is the bench thin because it has bad players on it, it also has injured players on it. They’re saying that Renteria is out at least a week, so why the hell is he not on the DL, so you can get a bat up here? Supposedly Schierholtz is unavailable as well, so that’s two roster spots wasted.
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There’s no 7 day DL. Would you rather have a thin bench for a week, or Uribe/Velez starting for the next 15 games?
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the idea is to be able to make a roster move, and this would mean that Uribe/Velez WOULDN’T be playing. Kevin Frandsen could have been called up. By the way, did you ever see so many base hits up the middle against us as you saw last night? Is that poor positioning by the coaches, or the lack of range of Uribe? Rest assured that Brian Wilson sucked ass last night, but when David Wright hit that ground ball in the ninth, the first thought in my mind was “easy DP.”
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Someone...
Photoshop Bochy’s face onto this.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 16, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to write up parent teacher conference forms tomorrow – while watching the game. I’m having second thoughts about this now. "Little Timmy plays well wi GODDAMMIT BOCHY WTF ?!?! " “Sarah needs to concentrROWAND YOU DUMBASS!!” Might not be a good career move.
I had to miss the early part of the game (never marry a woman born during baseball season), so missed the debacle that was the 7th inning. But didn’t every single Giants fan know, when Wilson went out there with a tie game, that we would lose? What the hell happened to putting players in situations where they can succeed (as opposed to insisting they go out in situations where they have proven beyond any doubt that they not only cannot succeed, but will, inevitably, fail.
Phooey my birthday is early April. Mr Merope gets us tickets for the game nearest my b-day, usually Opening Day. You just need a better wife!
April 2?
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by Mayor of 311 on May 15, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a horrible way to look at your “closer”.
The team’s best reliever should be able to pitch anytime, or else he isn’t the team’s best reliever.
I hope they’re giving him these saves to pump up his trade value, or else they’re just prematurely raising his price tag.
Yes, and I "should" exercise more and floss every day, but that ain't happening.
We can rely on shoulds or look at accumulated experience. The accumulated experience is that Wilson sucks in other than save situations. I agree with you that he “should” be able to drop a trident anytime he’s called upon, but despite the should, he cannot.
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by Mayor of 311 on May 15, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If Brian Wilson can’t pitch in a tie game, Brian Wilson can’t pitch in the majors. No maybes. No debate. He needs to get the fuck over it or he doesn’t deserve to be in San Francisco.
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+1
You have to be able to pitch well, no matter the inning or score.
by Squire_Boone on May 15, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
even Affeldt had a comment about it in Bagg’s blog. He said Wilson will be ok after these last two games because “it’s not like he blew a save or anything.” Yeah, we don’t care that we lost a horrendous game to lose, because all we live for are Brian Wilson saves.
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In fact
isn’t a guy who has to pitch with a lead a mop-up guy?
Maybe Joe Martinez can close when he comes back.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
card carrying Bochy Hatter
by natteringnabob on May 16, 2009 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much
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by Giant among Angels on May 16, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Grr
I have no faith in Brian Wilson, and really never have.
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He just wasn’t made for these times.
I’LL BET I’M THE FIRST PERSON TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION
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What hitters say when they face Brian Wilson
I GET AROUND
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Where we'd all like to send Brian Wilson right now
THE NEAREST FARAWAY PLACE
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
What did Brian Wilson say when he was told the team wanted a shutdown reliever?
THAT’S NOT ME
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How long are we going to be enjoying games like tonight's?
ALL SUMMER LONG
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
What did he say when Bochy/Wotus brought him in in the 9th tonight?
YOU STILL BELIEVE IN ME
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Damn, I was just about to use that one
Looks like you’re having FUN, FUN, FUN with this!
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What did Wilson say to Rags after blowing the game?
LET’S GO AWAY FOR AWHILE
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Can't someone pitch the ninth?
I KNOW THERE’S AN ANSWER
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To which Rags replied...
DON’T TALK PUT YOUR HEAD ON MY SHOULDER
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
The idea of the Giants ever winning a World Series in my lifetime
I’M WAITING FOR THE DAY
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
They won in '54
DO IT AGAIN
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I have no idea whats going on
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
Why did Bochy leave Tim in after 6?
GOD ONLY KNOWS
Also: he’s a fucking cunt.
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by bondslegend on May 15, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Giant hitters after the second inning (and pretty much all the time)
SHUT DOWN
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Will we snap out of this losing streak?
DON’T WORRY BABY
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Can I use...
I’M WAITING FOR THE DAY
again?
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Bochy's reply when his wife asks him, "What was wrong with Merkin tonight?"
WILD HONEY
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
I need to go to the judges to see if that's allowed
HELP ME RHONDA
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What the Giants hope will help them turn things around tomorrow
THE WARMTH OF THE SUN
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
WHAT IS GOING ON?
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That's Marvin Gaye
Beach Boy titles, in honor of the magnificence of Brian Wilson
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
What opposing hitters are batting off Brian Wilson this year
409
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
What I'll have when I wake up tomorrow and think about this game
TEARS IN THE MORNING
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What to say to those boats that once gathered in McCovey Cove in anticipation of Giant HR's
SAIL ON SAILOR
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
What it's time for me to do right now...
BREAK AWAY
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Will you be back?
PLEASE LET ME WONDER
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Sure I will
AREN’T YOU GLAD
(Help me!! I can’t stop!!)
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Can't stay away?
YOU’RE SO GOOD TO ME
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(Two more) Giants pitchers' strategy when David Wright reaches base
LET HIM RUN WILD
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
What Brian Wilson doesn't have a lot of in the McCoven
FRIENDS
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
How long I think Wilson will keep this shit up
FOREVER
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Wait...what?
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on May 16, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is my opinion on that line of argumentation.
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That is the STUPIDEST thing ever. YOU DO NOT GET MORE HIGH LEVERAGE THAN A TIE GAME IN THE NINTH INNING. DOES A THREE-RUN LEAD REALLY GET HIM MORE AMPED UP THAN A TIE GAME?
IF SO, HE NEEDS TO GET THE ACTUAL FUCK OUT AND NEVER COME BACK.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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everyone talks about getting rid of him, but who’s going to take his place? Merkin? Howry? These guys are even worse. The problem is that Wilson simply isn’t good enough. You’re not going to just blow fastballs past hitters like Sheffield, Beltran and David Wright. If he can’t throw strikes with his slider, or have faith enough in his changeup to use it, he doesn’t have the equipment to get great hitters like that out. Brian Wilson can go out there and blow away the Padres and Dbacks lineup, but you’re going to have to cover your eyes when he goes out there against elite hitters.
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I think Affeldt could do what he’s doing. Romo, when he comes back.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I agree
if, by “what he’s doing”, you mean turning 3 run leads into tie games and tie games into losses. Julian Tavarez can do that.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on May 16, 2009 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions
anyone can do what Wilson has done for the last couple of nights, but his body of work as Giants’ closer is a lot better than that. Wilson has been a major problem the last two nights, but if you were going to list all the problems with this team, it would be a very long list by the time you got to Brian Wilson.
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Agree'd
everyone’s perception is being colored by 2 terrible games. This game was lost before it got to Brian. Would it have been nice if he could have got someone the eff out? Yeah, but the fact is he shouldn’t have even had to.
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Also
I think Wilson’s recent heavy workload might factor into this as well. The 2 series before this he kept having to come in because Howry, Valdez and whoever else weren’t able to hold leads.
Save situation
If you don’t bring him in the first possible pitch it’s a save situation, it’s possible you won’t need him at all. Overuse is part of the problem with that management strategy.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
Wilson needs
to dump that show/distraction he’s doing and stick to baseball.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 16, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
2 nights of sadness in a row
And even though the Mets are a superior team and are expected to beat these guys we root for, it doesn’t make the losses sting any worse.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
6 games back
Thats cool
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
Aaron Rowand
Both a giant, and a marlin vs the dodgers were given a strike when hit by a pitch and the strike which was strike 3 for sandoval was called by a base umpire saying he went around when he clearly didn’t, and the Uggla situation (Torre asked for the call) possibly cost the marlins a big inning vs the dodgers. Nevertheless, with all that went bad, Aaron Rowand is a freakin Rally destroyer. The original fan post, was someone reading my mind. I could have written the same post, give or take a few words.
Aurillia did a McCovey Tonight
Too bad his liner wasn’t a little bit higher. Because with Bochy’s management decisions you really do not have to guess as to who is high.
Don't use a Willie name in the same sentence with ORLYA
Aurillia did a McCovey Aurilia Tonight
FTFY
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on May 16, 2009 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to do the jury consulting for the lawsuit of Juicy Scoring Opportunities vs. Aaron Scott Rowand
for wrongful death and batter malpractice.
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Maybe Wilson could try a funky hairstyle to get out of his suck streak
if that doesnt work, then I dont know
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
Do you mean funky good, or funky just funky, like he has now?
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by Mayor of 311 on May 15, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean Wilson already has a bad hairstyle, so that superstitious thing couldnt really work
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This is definitely not Howry do it!
It is universally recognized as bad (except by him); I just didn't know if you count it as funky.
What about a sunrise? Sometimes called the sideways Mohawk. That could be damn funny.
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by Mayor of 311 on May 15, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
To clarify
Its terrible funky
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An Option....
He could adopt a popular hairstyle from Barcelona and get the “drullet”—dreadlocks + mullet. No, they really do this….
I got one word for you: "youneverknow"
The thing is
If he was pitching well, the hairstyle would look fine. But since he’s pitching so horribly, he looks like an idiot
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by Useful_Idiot on May 16, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to me
He could be on his way to the Cy Young and the NL MVP as a closer, and I would still think his hairstyle is idiotic. It is empirically idiotic, regardless of context.
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by Mayor of 311 on May 17, 2009 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Dodger fan here
Hi guys. Sorry you have to be saddled with Bochy. Reminds me of the Jim Tracy days in LA. I wanted to say that as much as I like to see the Dodgers in front of SF, I really enjoy reading this blog. Grant is great and you really have a terrific group of passionate fans. Good luck (but not that much).
Dodgers suck and all that, go away and blah. Dear god, this game ATE MY SOUL. IT ATE IT. T-T
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Actually I do know him
at least electronically. We both post on Dodger Thoughts. It’s the best Dodger blog out there.
Thanks for the civility,
…but that’s a little like proclaiming something to be the best STD out there.
Oh good, I've got Syphillis!
The BEST of the sexually transmitted diseases!
/nobody will get that.
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Dodger thoughts is a really good blog.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Remember when we were 3 games over .500?
that was fun. It won’t happen again this year.
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"Back to 'Car Talk'..."
Caller: I need a really reliable clutch.
Click: You could always go Bendix, Fram, really any of the name brands will be fine.
Clack: Just don’t get Giants Offense brand! (HUGE laughter from both).
And scene.
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lulz
except they don’t know who the Giants are because they’re from BAHHHSTON
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by bondslegend on May 15, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a 76 win team
I stand by my prediction from the spring.
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl. Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis
I’m glad I spent my evening sitting in a sea of teenyboppers.
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Oh god
did you go to a jonas brothers concert or something?
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by bondslegend on May 15, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Once, circa 2000, I was on a BART train full of teenyboppers on their way to an N Sync concert at the Oakland Coliseum. It was a terrifying experience.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
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Nah
I went to a hip hop concert but did not expect the age demographic to be so young.
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You went to the Epik High concert too???
by CaliforniaBone on May 16, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha. I don’t understand a single word of Korean, but my gf wanted to go, so there I was. You’re spot on about the teenyboppers. Most of the screaming was VERY unnecessary. : /
I went into the concert thinking the Giants had the game in the bag with a 5-1 lead and Tim on the mound. After leaving, disappointed cause all the fucking line cutters bought out the t-shirts, I enter my car to hear Dave Fleming make some excuse about how the Giants lost and how was anything BUT a managerial mistake.
Sigh. Glad to see I wasn’t alone though.
by CaliforniaBone on May 16, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Were you the dude wearing the Lincecum Jersey? I thought about giving him a high five.
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Haha, I wish I owned a 55 jersey.
Naw, I was sporting a Cal hat with a Lincecum pin.
by CaliforniaBone on May 16, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
And I thought I was pissed. And I was at the game. It was action-packed, I’d say. I was all prepared to ask Merkin’s parent to please ask him not to let inherited runners score like he’s been doing lately.
But Grant’s opener brings the primary question to the fore. How much should we be worried about Timmy?
I could not be less worried
seriously, the guy is striking fools out. He strugged with control tonight, but if Bochy hadnt been a fucking moron he’d have been handing a nice lead over to the bullpen after yet another QS with 8 Ks in 6 innings.
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by bondslegend on May 16, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
This, is true, and I was feeling good about thinking so, but the fact that Grant is openly starting to voice some worries makes me leap to conclusions.
It was a perfectly wonderful game until the 7th inning. Actually, the bottom of the 6th, when somehow Merkin Valdez stopped throwing and Timmy went to bat. I was, WHUT, but then he got that RBI so I said, Eh, okay, but I hope he’s still got something for the seventh if you’re sending back out there.
I was expecting him to be taken out when that first runner got on base. I don’t trust Merkin to not let inherited runners score. I’ve forgotten what it was that gave Bochy faith in him—did he do something marvelous in April? I can’t recall.
As for Wilson, I sat there murmuring, You have to suck it up and get yourself out of this, because if you can’t, you are not going to be worth anything. Of course a) Affeldt sits the Mets down in the 7th and b) Justin Miller of all people gets a one-pitch out in the ninth.
I once went into EEEEEEEEE! and it is definitely not MY blogfather, but I have to admit, I can’t figure out why for this game Lincecum went out in the 7th, or why it was Valdez who relieved him in a stress situation, when Affeldt was also warming up and had a much better track record so far as a fireman.
by shanghaijim on May 16, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
because bochy is a fucktard,
that’s why. NO reason for Tim to stay in, NO FUCKING WAY he should have been kept in after he gave up a baserunner, and HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU PUTTING VALDEZ IN. It was just full of fail.
As for Grant being worried, since when does his opinion matter? (joke joke) But seriously- every pitcher has games where they look a little shaky and run out of gas at the end. Tim didn’t have a lot of those games last year, but nobody can ALWAYS be dominant EVERY time out. Lincecum was fine, Bochy lost this game.
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as bad as Bobby Howry has been, I would rather see him in the game than Valdez. At least it will be over fast, because he throws strikes. Also, Gary Sheffield is one of the greatest fastball hitters in the history of the game, so of course you send in a guy who throws nothing but fastballs. It’s the kind of stuff that makes Bochy the terrible manager that he is.
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I went to dinner tonight with a friend from San Diego. When I got out of the car to meet him, it was 5-1 Giants, but clearly from what I had seen and heard, Tim was kinda shaky tonight. Got back in the car for the post-post game and Kuip was calling into Flem’s show talking about how depressed he was and then all of the sudden I could guess what had happened without being told:
- Bochy leaves Lincecum in too long? Check.
- Wilson pitches like ass in a tie game? Check.
- Opposing team runs ragged on Giants pitchers? Check. 11 STOLEN BASES IN TWO GAMES.
The best part (if you can say that) about missing most of a loss like this one is that I can’t wait to visit this site. I was half expecting you guys to be throwing rocks and burning things.
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More like throwing feces and burning, er, feces.
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Mets not named Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran have stolen 11 bases… that’s just embarrassing.
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by natteringnabob on May 16, 2009 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions
But on a good note, they did throw out one runner last night. So there’s that, I guess.
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on May 16, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
rambling, cranky game report
Maybe it’s because the outcome put me in such a bad mood, but that was possibly the worst game I’ve ever attended. For a game that started so well, it sure turned into a piece of shit in a hurry. WTF moments aplenty.
A common occurrence in the last half of the game: looking over to see an empty Giants bullpen. After the blown lead, and even though it was still a tied game, I think we all sensed doom once Wilson came in, and sure enough… Finally, it became obvious they threw in the towel once Ishikawa was pulled from the on-deck circle to reveal our ace in the hole, Velez.
Oh well, at least I got to see Bochy get tossed. Plus, the crowd gave Rowand (and Wilson) and earful after an all-around craptacular performance.
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by rightcenterfielder on May 16, 2009 12:20 AM PDT reply actions
The loudest boos were for Valdez, though.
by shanghaijim on May 16, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Wasnt really his fault
he should never have had to be in that position to begin with.
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so basically you’re saying it’s not his fault that he stinks.
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Maybe he is playing up to his potential and it really isn’t his fault that he stinks. It could be the Giants’ fault for expecting a stinky player to smell of roses.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 16, 2009 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point. Which brings us back to why Bochy chose him. It’s morning now and I’m still baffled. I suppose it went like this: Tim was struggling a bit in the sixth, Bochy sent the Merkin out to warm up because of “the match-ups”, Tim got out of it, so when he struggled again in the seventh (when the match-ups were totally different and the situation much more tense with none out) the Merk was warmer than Affeldt. (blows out brains)
I'm sure you all said it
I was at the game and I told someone I know that it was a mistake to let Tim bat even though he got a hit and let him pitch in the 7th. I knew they were going to lose once Wilson (if he weren’t a Giant, he would be in my bottom 5 with Tuloshitzki and Scott Hairston) came in the 9th.
Is this the most egregious example of Bochy’s horrible managing so far? Pitcher struggling with command and velocity, just gave up 2 runs in an inning he really struggled in, up to bat WITH A RUNNER ON SECOND, over 100 pitches and… he leaves him in? Doesn’t even seem to think about another option? I mean, I think that would be an absolute no-brainer but …
As for Brian Wilson, well, he won’t be my least favorite Giant as long as Rowand is around but he’s getting closer and closer with every “tie game” where he can’t get AMPED UP enough to pitch because he doesn’t have a bases empty, three run lead.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
The fact that none of the articles on the game I’ve read even seem to be second-guessing Bochy’s decision is bizarre to me.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
that’s SF writers for you. If he was in New York, the media would have driven him out of town already. They did it with Willie Randolph and he didn’t do a tenth of the shit that Bochy does. They’re even doing it now to Jerry Manuel. A local radio guy mailed him a copy of “Baseball for Dummies” before they went on this road trip. Meanwhile the guy has seen every weakness the Giants have and taken advantage of it for the last two days, while Bochy continues to show he knows nothing after all his years in the game.
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Are you saying
we’re going to get Willie R? I’ll take it.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on May 16, 2009 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions
This is Bruce Bochy
years of management not really netting any positive results
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by Useful_Idiot on May 16, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Worse Decision
As bad as it was to leave him in, taking Timmy out with 2 on and no outs was worse. He was the best option for the next two batters, having previously struck out Sheffield and Wright (twice). Wright looked lost against him. If you are going to throw him out there, let him handle his business. Not leaving him in shows exactly how shortsighted it was to bring him back in the first place.
Of course, he was at like 114 pitches at that point… the fact is, if the only way a guy is going to finish the next inning is by pitching a 1-2-3 inning or giving up only one baserunner… he just shouldn’t be pitching that inning!
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I said it before, but you don’t send in a guy who throws dead red to hitters like Sheffield and Wright who are two of the best fastball hitters in the game. Howry was the choice there, even as much as he’s struggled. Sheffield has struggled as well this year, and he’s the guy you have to get out there. Howry would have thrown him strikes, and he wouldn’t have done it with just fastballs. Actually, since the game was truly on the line there, Affeldt was the best choice, but Bochy would have sooner killed himself before he brought in a lefty to face powerful righthanded hitters. No matter how many times he pushes the same wrong button, he will continue to push it.
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No matter how many times he pushes the same wrong button, he will continue to push it.
WHY THE FUCK DO THE PEOPLE GETTING PAID MILLIONS OF FUCKING DOLLARS TO RUN THIS MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR ENTERPRISE NOT FUCKING REALIZE THIS!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
HOLY SHIT this pisses me off so bad. It’s the same reason why the Minnesota Vikings don’t realize that Brad Childress is the worst fucking coach in the league, and why the 49ers took FOUR YEARS to finally fire that moron Mike Nolan. How do these fuckers keep their jobs when they do shit like this?
This must have been a REALLY bad loss, because I’m still angry the next day.
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Remember that Bowie song: "Let's Rant"?
I can’t speak to the Vikings’ situation, but the Niners and Giants are easy to figure out.
To understand why morons like Nolan and Bochy keep their jobs as long as they do, you just have to look at the morons who hired them.
Seriously, when we focus on Bochy as the source of the Giants’ troubles, I think we’re barking up the wrong tree. I mean, don’t get me wrong, Bochy is a horrible manager, he should be fired, and I hope he will be, and soon. But you have to think about the guy who hired Bochy in the first place? Why was Bochy hired? What criteria do you think Brian Sabean used in hiring Bochy? Why was Bruce Bochy an appealing choice to him? What criteria did Sabean use? What would he use now? Is it reasonable to think that Sabean will turn around and select a brilliant, out-of-the-box thinker as his next manager?
There’s also what I think is the larger issue of the kind of roster Sabean has given Bochy to work with. It’s a roster with virtually no hitting, no real power, two absolute stiffs in the starting lineup—both at positions where the Giants really need productive hitters, and at least three or four position players on the roster who to me look completely overmatched at the major league level. Schierholtz and Ishikawa have OPSes under .600. Aurilia’s is at .418 and Velez is at .341. And, I know this has been beaten at least as dead as the ones on which Joe Nathan and Francisco Liriano rode off, but… BENGIE MOLINA IS OUR CLEANUP HITTER1ONE I mean, I think we’ve all screamed ourselves hoarse over it to the point where we’ve kind of become numb to it. But, personally, I’M READY FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF SCREAMING!
I mean, God bless Bengie. I really mean that. What he has done for the Giants, to me, is nothing short of phenomenal, particularly considering what he has in the lineup around him, as well as his own limitations. I think the guy maybe deserves a statue when his days as a Giant are over. ….OK, not a statue. How about a concession stand, next to the Cha-Cha Bowls? But my point is this: What kind of idiot puts a lineup on the field with Bengie Molina batting cleanup, watches that lineup sputter and fail repeatedly over an entire season….and then puts essentially THE SAME LINEUP with the SAME CLEANUP HITTER on the field for a SECOND YEAR?? The team cannot score runs to save their collective lives. Bochy manages in a state of panic because of it—badly overusing sacrifice bunts, hit-and-run plays and double switched pinch-hitters. Frequently the Giants scratch out a run or two, and Bochy is left to try to navigate the late innings with a weak lineup and an unreliable bullpen.
The starting pitching is certainly impressive, so let’s not overlook that. But for the most part, they consistently are running out of gas after the sixth inning, leaving Bochy to try to wield his shaky bullpen through the final three innings. Think about that—that’s a third of the game left to the bullpen—a ‘pen that is thin and inconsistent. Now, clearly Bochy hasn’t the slightest clue about managing a bullpen. It’s the area where his most glaring errors occur. But you’d also have to say that the Giants’ bullpen leaves Bochy with very little margin for error. You’ve got one, maybe two guys right now (Affeldt and Miller) who consistently are throwing the ball well. The closer has lost control of his second pitch, leaving him with only a straight, very hittable fastball to go with. What’s more, he is looking more and more like somewhat of a head case.
So this is the team that Bruce Bochy has been given. It’s a bunch of solid citizens. They are classy. They are scrappy. They are gamers. And they aren’t very good at all.
Brian Sabean is the one who really needs to answer for the inherent problems of the roster. His farm system has been an unmitigated disaster, to the point that he was finally made to accept wholesale changes made from under him. Changes that, for years, he was unwilling to make. And now, we’re seeing some hope within the farm system. But the fact remains that, in the area of evaluating major league talent, and acquiring major league players, Sabean has repeatedly shown himself to be utterly incompetent. In the area of hitting, it’s clear that Sabean values things that aren’t really valuable, like batting average, RBI’s and “intangibles” like “leadership” and “scrappiness”. And he seems to have a compulsion to hoard center-fielders like those people who hoard all their belongings and garbage in their cars. The only position players Sabean is interested in are:
- Past their prime
- Not too expensive
- Scrappy or fast or can play center field
With this formula, the Giants will never be able to trade for or sign a hitter who can actually help them score more runs. It will always be guys like Scott Rowand and Edgar Renteria.
I’ve gone on too long with this. Sabean gotta go.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Look, I completely agree
and I’m not saying all the failures are Bochy’s fault. Your points about the roster’s weakness are well made, but you’re preaching to the choir on this one.
My point is that yes, the roster is bad, but if a guy like me, who’s been following baseball closely for just over 2 years, and who lives 2000 miles away from my favorite team, can look at a situation in a baseball game and know exactly what is going to fucking happen next, then why can a guy who’s getting paid 2.5 milliion fucking dollars a year to manage a team worth hundreds more millions of dollars not see the same thing?
THAT is the issue here. Not that the roster is weak, we know that, but that a trained “professional” can’t run a baseball team better than a 21-year-old casual fan from the mid-west. That is fucking insane. I fully believe that I would feel more comfortable with 95% of the posters on this site managing the Giants than Bruce Bochy, a guy who’s been making in excess of 2 million dollars a year.
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by bondslegend on May 16, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Who else can I preach to other than the choir?
I agree 100% about Bochy.
I’m just saying, fire Sabean and you kill two birds with one stone, because one of the first things a new GM will do is to cashier Bochy. And, if you hire a GM who actually has a clue about building a winning franchise, there’s more than a decent chance that he’ll hire a manager who also knows what he’s doing.
If you don’t fire Sabean, then the same guy who hired Bochy (and Felipe Alou) will hire Bochy’s replacement, and we’re likely to get more of the same.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
HOLY SHIT this pisses me off so bad. It’s the same reason why the Minnesota Vikings don’t realize that Brad Childress is the worst fucking coach in the league, and why the 49ers took FOUR YEARS to finally fire that moron Mike Nolan. How do these fuckers keep their jobs when they do shit like this?
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Man, completely wrong. How can you live with yourself when you’re so wrong?
It was three and a half years.
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The Giants have never fired a manager midseason, yes? The expectation for this season was a .500 club. With those two things in mind it looks like we’re stuck with Botchy. Who would be out there for next season? It’d be nice to have someone with more animation than a corpse.
They have, but you have to go back to Jim Davenport in 1985. He was replaced by Roger Craig, and the Giants have only had four managers in the near-quarter-century since.
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BLASPHEMY
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“Giants lost a Tim Lincecum/Livan Hernandez match-up dammit”
That about about sums up last nights game, angry fans at work this morning. Wilson throwing a ball 5 feet wide of Pablo, ump had the good sense to not let that ball hit him, bad for the giants. Ah well, 1 game, lets hope Randy can match Santana’s sick stuff this afternoon.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH THATS A GOOD JOKE
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he’ll hang a slider to Wright, and the game will be over in the first inning.
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No, he'll pitch nine scoreless
But Santana will go for ten
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by Useful_Idiot on May 16, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
This is awesome:
Rowand’s career Giants batting line: .264/.335/.401
Marvin Benard’s career Giants batting line: .271/.343/.402
Commence the lulz.
catching one too
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl. Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis
On the plus side, as crappy as Rowand’s defense can be, he couldn’t possibly be as bad a center fielder as Benard was.
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I thought so too, but I checked Benards TZ scores and they weren’t terrible-awful. He was below average some years, but he was shockingly close to average most of the time.
This makes me want to disavow all defensive stats, but then I’d have to give up on defending Lewis’s defense. :(
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Benard was pretty bad in 1999 (-11 runs below average) but most of the time he was pretty average-ish. I think people just hated Benard for whatever reason.
You can find them here if you’re interested
http://www.baseballprojection.com/war/b/benam001.htm
He was +4 runs as a fielder when you sum up his career.
having to watch him play is a reason.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
I’m a fan of his b-r dedication.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I’m fairly certain that Lewis would make a terrible center fielder.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Probably. Is it Benard’s fault that the Giants thought he could play CF? If he was moved into a corner like LF he could have been an even better player.
He did spend a fair amount of time in RF.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
The other thing about Benard
He was really awful his last year as a Giant, thus leaving us all with a bad taste in our mouth. Hey, sort of like what’s happening now with Aurilia!
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I’ve got a soft spot for Benard, too. I saw him hit a walk-off against the Dodgers once that was pretty awesome.
I made him laugh once!
It was during the 18-inning 1-0 loss. I was in the RF arcade section, and offered him $1 to hit a home run.
I’ve told that story many times before. It’s very out of character for me to repeat myself like that.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
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hmm. I think there was a player already in LF at that time.
Anyway, Bernard was a tweener, and an aesthetically brutal fielder. I’m not not letting go of the Kill Bill red flashy screen feelings that I get when I hear his name.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
haha, I meant to say RF.
Aesthetically brutal, yeah but I think it’s been proven that it doesn’t matter how much it “looks like” when a player is on defense but the results of that defense.
Speaking as a fan I have to admit, dropped catches and bad routes make me more annoyed than simple lack of range. It’s frustrating to see a guy who has the tools but can’t quite figure it out. Hence the strong negative emotional reaction to those type of players.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Fred’d\s problem is that their are two fair defensive metrics to judge him by: what the average LF can do, and what Fred Lewis should be able to do.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
The difference, aside from the fact that Lewis’s offensive numbers are better (marginally, but pretty much across the board – well, except for K rates) is that Benard played at a time when the Giants had a lot of very good hitters, so looked bad by comparison. Lewis, on the other hand, is pretty close to the best we’ve got.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I will say that I liked Benard a lot at first. He and Aurilia both came up together at the end of 1995, and they both hit the crap out of the ball in their September callup. It was such a nice surprise on the otherwise terrible team and gave me some hope for the future. But I grew to hate him over the years – looking at the STATS, of course, I realize this was irrational.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
12 million dollars for worse than Marvin Benard
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by bondslegend on May 16, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
The thing that bothers me is when I hear Aaron Rowand is 7 for 13 lifetime against Livan, and then he can’t hit him worth a damn. Sure, when Rowand played for the Phillies he killed Livan. What good does that do us? He reminds me of Edgardo Alfonzo in that regard. Edgardo always had dominating numbers against pitchers compiled in his Met days, and then when he played for us, we were happy if he could bloop a single.
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Perspective is a good thing....
Going into this season not many of us were expecting that much different than what we currently got, a .500 ish team. Most of us said we’d be happy with that, myself included.
Yes, Bochy is utterly horrible and needs to be put out to pasture, just hope they don’t use him as a stud, because that would be truly scary.
Perhaps the worse thing that could happen is we get close enough to “go for it” and we trade Tim Alderson for Paul Konerko, or a simiiar brilliant trade cause we got a chance to win it..
Perspective and a long view will allow you not to go bald and white headed.
(Take it from experience, I learned the hard way…..)
My two favorite teams are the Giants, and whomever is playing the Dodgers!
by World Series or Bust on May 16, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions
That may be true
but with a different, smarter manager we’d be 4 or 5 games over .500, rather than just at .500. And with this team, that could make all the difference.
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by bondslegend on May 16, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
an amusing tidbit out of all this
was the comment by Kruk that the runners at second base were all screwed up when Lincecum never looked at them, nice head game.
Going to the game today
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I’ll be the one with his face in his palm while the Giants are hitting.
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Question not worth a fanshot
Can fans still catch players for autographs at the 2nd & King player’s gate after games, esp. day games?
seriously
look, it’s our offense that’s the problem this year
our pitching is our strength, but they are occasionally going to have really bad games (the last 2 days included)
ok, (1) Lincecum isn’t as hot as he was last year, (2) Bochy isn’t managing controlling innings pitched very well – agreed on both points, but I still believe that usually Lincecum is going to give us some of our best games
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
Hey, do you guys know who’s 4-for-4 in his last four save opportunities? Some guy up in Seattle named “David Aardsma.” [ducks]
"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09
WHO IS THAT
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on May 16, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I keep looking at the headline and singing it to the tune of “It’s the most wonderful time of the year”
It’s the most dispiriting loss of the season
With fans loudly yelling
Our offense is smelling
The manager’s lost reason
It’s the most dispiriting loss of the season
It’s the most dispiriting loss of the season
It’s the crap -appiest season of all
With hitters not hitting and pitches not splitting
Fielders dropping the ball….
It’s the most dispiriting loss of them all
It’s the hap – happiest season of all
The Giants are going to destroy Johan Santana today.
This is how the universe works.
by The Double Deuce on May 16, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions
I can't believe I'm saying this
I wish Zito had a start this series
On the run from Johnny Law, aint no trip to Cleveland, or San Francisco.
INR
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on May 16, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
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