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minor lines, 5/13/09

Today's highlights: (A) Reaching base three times, Angel Villalona had the top individual line from a hitting prospect; (B) Craig Clark had the best pitching line; (C) both the Grizzlies and Defenders offenses scored over ten runs, with a fair number of individual performances contained therein.

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AAA: Fresno defeated Round Rock 11-7

Fresno: CF Tyler Graham: 3 for 5, HR, 2B
Fresno: 3B Ryan Rohlinger: 2 for 4, HR, 2 SO
Fresno: LF Brian Horwitz: 3 for 4, HR, 2B
Fresno: C Eli Whiteside: 3 for 4, HR, 2B

Fresno: RHP Ray Sadler: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Fresno: RHP Steve Palazzolo: 1.1 IP, 4 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB

Three different Grizzlies--Grahan, Horwitz, and Whiteside--each had a home run, a double, and a single.  For Graham, it was clearly his best game of the season after having entering the night with just eights hits in limited playing time (40 AB over 16 G).  Whiteside had his 5th HR in his last five games.  Rohlinger, who is hitting better than .450 in May, also had a HR.

Making his seventh start, Sadler had perhaps his best start of the season.  It was at least his longest start of the season, and it was just his second start with fewer than 3 BB, although the percentage of his pitches thrown for strikes was not appreciably different than in his past starts as tonight he threw 61 of 96 pitches for strikes.  His K/BB ratio is now 1.75.  Palazzolo had his least effective appearance of the year, adding nearly three full runs to his ERA (from 2.08 to 5.02).

AA: Connecticut defeated New Britain 15-7
(after trailing 6-0 after two innings)

Connecticut: 2B Brock Bond: 4 for 5, HBP
Connecticut: 1B Brett Pill: 4 for 6, HR, 2B, SO
Connecticut: C Tyler LaTorre: 3 for 4, 3B, 2 BB
New Britain: 3B Danny Valencia: 2 for 4, 2B

Connecticut: RHP Brooks McNiven: 1.2 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 0 BB, 0 K--1 HR, 1 HB
Connecticut: LHP Jesse English: 4.0 IP, 1 H, 3 BB, 5 K--1 WP
Connecticut: LHP Joe Paterson: 1.0 IP, 2 K
New Britain: RHP Jeff Manship: 3.1 IP, 7 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 2 BB, 0 K--1 HB

With four hits each, Bond and Pill accounted for nearly half of the Defenders' seventeen hits, raising their respective AVGs to .287 and .263.  Pill had his 1st HR and 11th double.  Bond and LaTorre each reached base five times.  Valencia, the Twins' #5 prospect, has had a double in five of his last six games, helping to improve his season line to .304/.402/.533.

McNiven had a disaster start, retiring just four of thirteen batters and ballooning his ERA above 5.00.  In long relief, English had his longest appearance of the year (in terms of IP), despite having made three starts earlier this season.  He improved his ERA to 4.43.  Paterson struck out two of three batters in a perfect 9th inning to maintain his 0.00 ERA.  Manship, the Twins #11 prospect, allowed just one run through the first three innings, but in the fourth inning he retired just one of the seven batters he faced.

A+: San Jose defeated Visalia 2-0

San Jose: 2B Nick Noonan: 1 for 3, 2B, BB, E
San Jose: RF Roger Kieschnick: 1 for 4, HR
San Jose: 1B Angel Villalona: 1 for 2, BB, HBP

San Jose: LHP Craig Clark: 6.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K--1 WP
San Jose: RHP Steven Edlefsen: 3.0 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 4 K

No one had two hits for the Giants, but Villalona reached base three times, improving his OBP to .369.  With today's walk, his BB/AB ratio is now exactly 5.0%.  Noonan, who had his 4th double, was the only other Giant to reach base twice.  After 3 HRs in April, Kieschnick had his first HR in May.

Clark had his second very good start in May, including a season-high 9 K.  In his first and third start this month, he has 6 H, 2 BB, 0 R, and 16 K in 13.0 IP.  In the start in between, he allowed 7 ER in 3.0 IP.  Edlefsen had three scoreless innings to complete the shutout and receive his first save.

A-: Augusta lost to Greenville 4-3

Augusta: 2B Juan Perez: 1 for 3, HR, BB, SB
Augusta: 2B Josh Mazzola: 2 for 4

Augusta: RHP Chance Corgan: 4.1 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--1 HR, 1 HB

Perez had his 3rd HR and 5th SB.  Perhaps even more notably, Perez led off the 4th inning with a walk, his first walk of the year after 121 AB.  Mazzola was the only GreenJacket with two hits, improving his AVG to .282, which is the highest on the team among the ten hitters with more than 60 AB.

After five pretty effective relief appearances, Corgan got the start in his first appearance in over a week.  His ERA rose to 3.93.

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What is going on with Pereira?
(Sorry if this has been addressed recently)

Also, PalazzoLOLo

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 13, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

last I checked minor leagDL transactions he was on the FL

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

good to have some real talent

Giants finally have some real age appropriate talent for their minor league level. One of these guys must be better than Howry right now.

by bradleybear on May 13, 2009 11:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Is McBryde injured?

Didn’t notice Tyler Graham was promoted from AA until today. Is McBryde injured?

Awaiting his arrival in SF: Jesse English

by henwo on May 13, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions  

McBryde took a HBP to the hand and is working to regain full range of motion in the hand. He’s at extended spring training until it heals properly.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

The timing on that seems a little weird. He played every day for the first week or so. Then didn’t play for a week. Then appeared in one game. Then disappeared for another week and then made 1 PR appearance. Then gone again. When exactly did this injury occur and when did they send him to Arizona, and what was going on in between, do you know?

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on May 14, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

working on his slide step

by wilriv21 on May 14, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know the particulars but I can ask and report back on SF Dugout.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tyler Graham

I know nothing about him, only that some were annoyed he got the call over EME. Dude seems to be RAKING since his call-up, though

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by bondslegend on May 13, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I remember from last season that graham was very fast…47 SB’s IIRC… I also believe he plays solid D…

I noticed that Crawford didn’t play for Connecticut today…any reason??

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by Mordy From Monsey on May 13, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably a day off. IIRC he played in almost every game so far this year.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I think he only got 2 days off for SJ the whole time he was there.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 14, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's ridiculously powerless, though

Hit .264/.324/.330 as a 24 year old in San Jose. Even Burriss never showed such lack of power.

/checks the stats to make sure

Oh, wow. Well at least Burriss was younger.

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I hope.

by Cookyman on May 14, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was born in Montana!

Like me! Honorary adopted Giant!

Also, in 6 games he’s .273/.333/.455 so that’s gonna hold up, right?

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by bondslegend on May 14, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Starting center fielder for the first college world series champ Oregon State team.

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by RichH on May 14, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s essentially McBryde without the arm is my recollection. Also, he’s been hurt a bunch.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on May 14, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t he a corner OF?

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I hope.

by Cookyman on May 14, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, he’s a speed and defense CF who’s played some corner OF in the Giants system because he’s always been on the same team as McBryde (who I believe they like better, but is also a speed and defense CF).

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on May 14, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am trying to remember the various Oregon State teams for certain, but I think that Graham was a corner outfielder on the first champion team, with Jacoby Ellsbury in CF. I think that after Ellsbury turned pro, then Graham moved to CF for the second championship team.

by steve S on May 15, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ellsbury

Was drafted in 05, Graham in 06. 06 was the first Oregon State team to win the CWS.

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by RichH on May 15, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he was born in Montana he’s bound to develop some power, or at least a Grizzly Adams Beard!

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by joeytothelimit on May 14, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

I was born in Montana and am lucky to reach the outfield. I got wheels though!!!

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by bondslegend on May 14, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodd Stadium...

I plan on attending the May 21 game at Dodd Stadium…Would anyone be able to calculate for me who they think the starting pitcher might be that day forthe Defenders? It sure would be a shame to have to travel 250 miles roundtrip and miss Alderson/Madbum….

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by Mordy From Monsey on May 13, 2009 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Assuming a 5-man rotation and no off days, it would be Mr. Bumgarner.

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by Lyle on May 14, 2009 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Connecticut is going with a six-man rotation now, though.

by steve S on May 15, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pleased whenever I see Sadler didn’t walk like 6 people an inning.

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by groug on May 13, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Billy "Ray" Sadler

next Giants long relief guy after Misch misches his opportunity?

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Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 14, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, a swing and a Misch is not such a good thing. Seriously, why do they trot him out there? I feel like I’m watching someone get fed to the lions.

by Rorsavelt on May 14, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bocock, HEY you're doing it WRONG

Sorry if this has been pointed out, but it just struck me

Bocock has gone
From Majors to AAA (didn’t even get a September Call Up)
Then’
From AAA to AA
Then
From AA to A+
Could Augusta be far off?

Additionally, he has the hasn’t broken .200 at any level since being in the Majors…..

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by merkin on May 14, 2009 12:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m sure he’s brimming with confidence.

by DesertFox on May 14, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was actually glad to see it

the Ginas have done a lot of silly things in the past few years, but taking a guy that has never, ever hit a baseball well since Pony League and installing him as opening day SS was horrible. For him and for the team.

I hope there’s a chance he can actually learn to hit. That’sliterally what it said in the BA Prospect Handbook in 07 about him; I’m considering buying a copy for the Ginats front office each year so they can read about their prospects.

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by natteringnabob on May 14, 2009 5:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I beat you by a week

link

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by Lyle on May 14, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Angel Villalona

Can someone explain how Angel V. had “the top individual line from a hitting prospect” by reaching base 3 times – 1-2, BB, HBP? Looks like there were a heck of a lot of home runs and multiple hit games by a lot of other guys, especially in Fresno and Connecticut. Or is “prospect” the key word?

by flyonthewall on May 14, 2009 12:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, prospect was the key word. It was a somewhat artificial distinction, but I mean to refer to hitters who were included in BA’s list of the Giants top 30 prospects. Maybe I should have been clearer about that.

by steve S on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

ALERT: Juan Perez has walked!

by xanthan on May 14, 2009 2:45 AM PDT reply actions  

ALERT: Juan Perez has walked! HITZ DINGERZ!!!

Fixed.

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by tedfordfan on May 14, 2009 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

call off CPS

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 14, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Parents, this is how it’s done. Take notes.

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by marcello on May 14, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is he playing 2b now, 3b?

Drafted as a (dingerz hitting) OF, he’s now an infielder, in the very least. Any idea if he’s kicking and tripping in the dirt? No E’s listed where I look.

by Hummfugginbaby on May 14, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

playing 2b and has 7 errors

by wilriv21 on May 14, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he hasn’t started out well, but he is learning a new position on the fly so he deserves some patience.

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by marcello on May 14, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

or the belt again

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 14, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t you talk to me like that!

by xanthan on May 14, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll give him a little more time before that. Defense might require the wooden spoon, to be honest.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

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by marcello on May 14, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe try the rolling pin? or that thing you can mash potatoes with?

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by joeytothelimit on May 14, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll save those for when he doesn’t hit for power.

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by marcello on May 14, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the bright side — 7 errors is just a week’s work for Charlie Culberson! Actually, it’s about the same as Noonan, so I wouldn’t judge by it.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on May 14, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would expect more errors from a 3b. Many of the organization middle infielders have a ton of errors.

by wilriv21 on May 14, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody makes errors like Charlie, though. He had 16 E’s in 26 games to start the season. He’s on a pace to smash his ’08 total of a mere 35.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on May 14, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that concrete or asphalt?

the leftside of infield both have a ton of errors for Augusta.

by wilriv21 on May 14, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone got up close and personal to Angel Villalona who could confirm if he truly stands 6’3"? I’ve seen him twice now (granted never closer than 50’ away) and he doesn’t seem taller than his teammates at all, and I’m just wondering if his pudge is just making him appear shorter than he is.

Thomas Neal is a physical specimen though!

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by joeytothelimit on May 14, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I was wearing heels when I spoke with Mr. Neal on Saturday and he was still pretty tall.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve probably never been close than 50’ feet either, but my impression when seeing him standing right next to his teammates was that he was definitely bigger and taller than them, not in an overly obvious way (i.e., six inches taller and 100 pounds heavier), but it did strike me how that he was bigger if you also take into account that he’s maybe four years younger than a lot of his teammates.

by steve S on May 15, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m growing weary of the perception of Villalona as a big fatty fatty. I’ve seen him several times now, some up close, and he’s not fat. Not even pudgy if you ask me. He has a thick lower body, big rear in particular. IIRC, didn’t they hang the moniker Fat Albert on Pujols when he was coming up? Now look at him; he’s retained the monstrous lower body to generate his power. If Big V becomes even somewhat comparable to Pujols then that would be most satisfactory.

As for his height I dunno. I passed by him in the dugout once and said wassup to him and he was sitting down. When I saw him taking BP in Modesto last weekend I focused on his hands and his bat speed.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 15, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to post that weird pick of Angel in his jock with his THUNDER THIGHS

by xanthan on May 15, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could use an LOL at work.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 15, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got a photo with AnVil after a game a few weeks ago

I’m nearly 6’ tall, he clearly had a couple inches on me (more with the budding fro). And he’s not fat. Big-boned more like it, and you can clearly see he’s still got a lot of room to grow.

Noonan. Nooooonan!

by Giant Fan in Singapore on May 15, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

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