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Post-Game Thread: No Sweep for the Giants

On July 28th, 2006, the Giants were three games back. They were just above .500, sure, but only three games back. Brian Sabean said to himself, "Sabes, you need to go out and get a lefty who can throw 23 innings over the next two months. Our playoff chances depend on it."

Three years later, the person traded for Mike Stanton held the Giants to two hits.

Don't worry, though. The Giants received a supplemental first-round pick for Stanton.

Wait, that pick was used on Charlie Culberson. And Jordan Zimmerman was still on the board, and the Nationals eventually took him in the second round. All of a sudden, I'm really annoyed with the Nationals.

It's hard to complain too much about this one, though. Zito pitched well, and the Giants haven't lost a series since the middle of April. For the short-term, I'll just be satisfied that Zito is a worthwhile starting pitcher again. Maybe if they package him with Rowand this offseason, the Giants can get that missing middle-of-the-order bat.

Full boxscore for the sadists.

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I still don’t like the Mike Stanton trade.

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I was the only one who disliked the Stanton trade at the time.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

f'real?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

>kenshin for one seems pretty pissed about it here.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

kenshin is angry about everything.

by Natto on May 13, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s because Omar’s gone :(

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no opinion.

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Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.

by WalrusMan on May 13, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

link or it didn’t happen.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on May 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!
This is a god awful trade. No fucking reason at all. None. The bullpen isn’t as problematic as this trade would indicate; the only problem is Benitez. If we’d traded Martis for a closer, I would be less upset. And Stanton isn’t likely to stick around after this season, is he? I’d like to say I can’t believe Sabean wants to fail, but I’ve got to believe it.
I was concerned about Hillenbrand, more that the acquisition took us out of the running for Casey. I’m hoping some other team rents him and then we sign him to a multi-year deal this winter. But Hillenbrand isn’t a complete failure (yet) so he’s not yet on my list. And Accardo is making the trade look like a winner by being pretty awful in Toronto.

I had high hopes for Martis. Call me crazy for getting excited about a teenage pitcher, but I was really rooting for him to suceed as a Giant. Fuck you, Brian Sabean, for taking that away from me.

From the above Kenshin link

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good call. But points off for saying Hillenbrand wasn’t a complete failure. ;)

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on May 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that wasn’t so great…

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t around here back then but I hated it. I saw it as a pointless trade for a team that wasn’t in the race.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if I was regularly posting here at that time but in my LJ I was pretty angry. I was okay with Stanton closing games after the initial WTF wore off, but I still didn’t like the trade.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s an angry Baron rant in the Diary link I posted!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol I wanted the Giants to sign Sean Casey

I am stupid.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The sad thing is if the Giant signed Casey, he probably would have been the best Giants’ 1B since Bizzaro Snow.

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trading a 19-year-old live arm for a 39-year-old reliever is just so Sabean.

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a team that if Bochy returns next season, Sabean would sign Aurilia to another minor league deal and Aurilia would be back for 2010.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he can be a player manager!

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants were three games out of first place on that date.

I didn’t hate the trade. I thought Stanton pitched well for the Giants. But admittedly, I knew nothing about Martis.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stanton pitched really well for the Giants but it’s still a trade I would be uncomfortable with if it happen again.

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d feel better about it if we’d picked someone other than Charlie Culberson with the supp. pick.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that kinda sucks too. It’s still pretty lol that the Reds decided to sign Stanton and punt a pick to get him. They signed him to a 2-year deal, he pitched pretty bad in 2007 and they cut him entirely in 2008.

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't that upset....

If I recall, there was a very large uproar over the Martis trade not because he was a young projectable arm, but because non-prospect hounds knew his name because of the no-hitter he threw for Caracow (sp?) during the inaugural WBC. As a semi-prospect hound at the time I was not overly upset. Was he projectable? Sure, but he was not a sure thing. He was putting up aproximatly 1.3 WHIP in the SAL’ y as a 19 year old, with about 8 K’s per 9. Not bad but not world beating. The thing that the scouts were saying was he was a back of the rotation kind of starter, if not a reliever (iirc), because he simply did not have the stuff, at the time, to be a front line starter. Earlier this year there was an article about how he has added 2-3 mph to his fastball, and how that has advanced his progress. To expect that from any pitching prospect is ludicrous.

I was not for the trade, because it seemed pointless. However, it is very easy to make the case that the trade made sense at the time. If you think of the trade like this, you will swap a non-sure thing (say Clayton Tanner) for a supplemental draft pick this year, would you do it? I would have to think about it, but probably. This time the supp pick didn’t turn out to be anything specially but it could be a Joba’s, Burris’s etc next tim. It just didn’t turn out this time.

by OmahaGiants on May 13, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stats to defend my Argument

Look at the jump in strike outs and corresponding drop in ERA

by OmahaGiants on May 13, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WANTED A SWEEP DARN IT

by Natto on May 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks to Sandoval we won two games instead of one

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine how much that would have sucked to lose 2 of 3 to that team.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

if we lost yesterday’s game wonder if the players would have shown up today.

On another note: After the signing of Strasburg and the #10 pick this team could be the next turnaround team

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t some say Strasburg could be up this season with little or no minor league appearances?

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would the Nats really want to extend his IP this season? Possibly a few IP in a relief mode or long relief and they can watch his innings

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I look forward to Lost

This is the one where they introduce the vampires

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm looking forward to Criminal Minds

What? The nerdy guy is going to be in mortal peril again!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

even so

the show is still one of the best procedural cop shows out there

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on May 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I love it.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Locke better grab hisself some silver bullets

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on May 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Miller’s son is cracking me up. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, clearly.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on May 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I want to listen…

by Natto on May 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, I wasn’t out in the bleachers, with the common folk

lol.

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by Viliphied on May 13, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that was his son on TV, he’s skinnier then Lincecum.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Krukow picks pitcher

shocking.

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by Viliphied on May 13, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Richie Suckrilia...

Richie was a great Giant but his good days are over…he killed us twice today….Why does this team love to stick with over the hill veterans?

"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading

by Mordy From Monsey on May 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Bruce Bochy.

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by Viliphied on May 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

GIANTS BRASS!!

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I defended Richie earlier in the season...

…but man, is he looking terrible. Maybe he’s playing hurt (pulled suck muscle?)

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 13, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Causing it to enlarge?

by scout6 on May 13, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why did Bochy double switch?

He took out Ishikawa to put Aurilia in the 9th spot and Valdez pitched. Yet he took Valdez out anyway after his inning.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

because Bochy.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because without the double switch, Bochy’s life is a hollow, meaningless void.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on May 13, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll still double switch. He did last year.

by Natto on May 13, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

My “favorite” double-switch is when player in the lead off spot makes the last out and Bochy decides to take him out on a double switch even though the pitchers spot won’t come up for 7 spots.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

one of my favorites was when Roger Craig did a double-switch and removed Kevin Mitchell inthe SIXTH inning

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn’t Bochy pinch hit Aurilia for Ishikawa last year because the other team brought in a lefty in the 4th inning?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on May 13, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that was my biggest facepalm of last year, at least one of them

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 13, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mitchell was a large cog in the offense. Aurilia and Ishikawa not so much

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are a large clog in the offense.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 13, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT MAKES HIM FEEL SO ALIVE!!

and springtime fresh

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on May 13, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants will face one lefty vs. the Mets

So I guess we’ll the failure of Rich Aurilia on Saturday (sure it’s vs. Santana).

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

speaking of santana

Molina has some serious ownage on him. 25 ABs, 11 hits, 2 doubles, 2 home runs and a walk

by superk1ng on May 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

A WALK?!?!

That is some serious ownage.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 13, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That Santana game is going to be all bad.

by chilibean_3 on May 13, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Johan Santana's stats this year

4-2 with a 0.78 ERA, 4 ERs in 46 IP, 60 Ks and 13 BBs

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

0.78 ERA. 2 losses. You sure he doesn’t pitch for the Giants?

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by Viliphied on May 13, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

His ERA in those two losses: 0.00

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO WIN1

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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on May 13, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. I think I might skip watching the Giants get no-hit.

by chilibean_3 on May 13, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure how it’s physically possible, but I am predicting Santana throwind a “negative hitter”. Meaning the Giants box will look like 0 runs -2 hits, 0 errors. and probably 29 strikeouts. (yes another math contradiction)

Robby Thompson "hey Hinshaw, let me see your hat for a minute."
Alex HInshaw "Why?"
Robby Thompson ,"You'll see...."

by LargeFarva on May 13, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

fodgers vs fillies on ESPN rite now

by Merope on May 13, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

This is now the

“Dodgers suck thread”

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This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 13, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought that went without saying

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by Viliphied on May 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

We interrupt this baseball game to bring you MannyTalk.

Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.

by rightcenterfielder on May 13, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

MANNY MANNY MANNY

GROUGTHINK ALERT
Chatterbalks dot com: Still with jokes. Now with updates.

by groug on May 13, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, I saw that. But I don’t want to watch ESPN really.

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Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.

by WalrusMan on May 13, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just in time for a “Suck It Martin!!”

by Merope on May 13, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Why, did Werth steal home while Martin’s brain was napping again?

Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.

by Johnny Disaster on May 13, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, he was up to bat.

by Merope on May 13, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least Lewis didn’t strikeout today.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!

I hope.

by Cookyman on May 13, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

He got an XBH! SLG all the way up to .377!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

don’t forget the ribbie

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lewis just ruined his RBI average. He was on pace for 6.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh dear, it’s the “back back back” dude.

by Merope on May 13, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

and his partner, who may or may not be drunk

Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.

by rightcenterfielder on May 13, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Collins and Steve Lyons on the LA feed

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rick Sutcliffe is pretty stupid.

“The reason the Phillies beat LA is because they threw behind Manny that one time!”

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I think I’m getting better announcing from the LA feed.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

JROLL!

Bowker, Frandsen, Guzman > Lewis, Velez, Ishikawa

by NuschlerFace on May 13, 2009 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh jeez.

Sutcliffe: “Jamie Moyer reminds me of Dick Clark. He just looks a lot like Dick Clark, he’s never changed — he looks great”

Uh, Sut, have you seen Dick Clark lately?

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, Manny Ramirez’s cheating last season is the reason that Bob Melvin got fired.

I

by xanthan on May 13, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball should be like NASCAR

Open the hood!

Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.

by rightcenterfielder on May 13, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

AGELESS LEFTY

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 13, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weird watching a Dodgers game and not hearing Scully on it but he doesn’t travel east of Colorado anymore.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I still like Scully, even if he is a bit senile. He always makes it seem like an old-fashioned baseball game, which I like.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on May 13, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You will find Giants fans who tell you that Scully sucks or that he is annoying. Those people are idiots.

by sunnyd100 on May 13, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fell in love with Vin Scully back in the 60’s when the only game on TV was the Saturday Game of the Week. Transitor radios ruled the earth. A weekend in the garage cleaning/working on the bike with Scully painted the game in the background. Felt like I was in the front row.

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live in Southern California. I dislike the Dodgers obviously, but I love listening to Scully call a Giants/Dodgers game. He really does have a classy understated feel that is missing from so many other announcers out there. Add to that the fact that he manages to do it without a partner and he is just amazing. I will miss him big time when he no longer calls games. I think that he is the last of his era.

by sunnyd100 on May 13, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Vin is a classic and one of the last greats in broadcasting.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aye.

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Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.

by WalrusMan on May 13, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sitting on my bench

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 13, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big V

had another HBP today. Does anyone know if he crowds the plate or dives into a pitch? He does hit the ball to RF often.

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

maybe teams think he has a weakness inside.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on May 13, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does Bochy never remove Zito the inning after he gets his 100th pitch, he was pitching so well, but it seems like a pattern in his last few starts where as soon as he got around 1oo pitches he would melt down.

The absentee father of Edwin "Cue Ball" Quirarte, now that he is doin well in the minors, its time to get back in his life, and in his checking account!

by TexasRanger on May 13, 2009 5:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Because Bochy is an idiot.

by Natto on May 13, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, because he has a bullpen that contains Bobby Howry and Pat Misch.

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by EliminateMe on May 13, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also because he is an idiot

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by bondslegend on May 13, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good to see Misch pick up where he left off last year.

Robby Thompson "hey Hinshaw, let me see your hat for a minute."
Alex HInshaw "Why?"
Robby Thompson ,"You'll see...."

by LargeFarva on May 13, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dun know wha ya saaaaay tha misch…..Ah wud nevar duh tha.

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by WalrusMan on May 14, 2009 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you would have told me a month ago that i would be disappointed that a Zito start did not turn into a win, i would have said you’re crazy. But really, as long as Sanchez isn’t pitching (I don’t know why I assume RJ = win, but i do), I assume we are going to win.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 13, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 13, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure if this was mentioned yet but Loney homered so Ishikawa better fuckin hit his soon.

On the run from Johnny Law, aint no trip to Cleveland, or San Francisco.

by PAWarrior on May 13, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

does Big Papi have a homer yet?

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 14, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Semi-coherent Giants talk

Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.

by rightcenterfielder on May 13, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Did you know their pitching is pretty good, but they need a bat!

by Merope on May 13, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aaron Rowand ran into that fence that one time.

Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.

by rightcenterfielder on May 13, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He plays for the Giants now you know…

by Merope on May 13, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Define “plays”.

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by EliminateMe on May 13, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

runs to bank to cash his check

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

stands around looking stupid and collects a very big paycheck?

by Merope on May 13, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pedro Feliz with a strikeout?! Say it ain’t so!

by scout6 on May 13, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Dodgers promotional night

Wednesday, May 20th the 1st 50,000 fans receive………..a Casey Blake bobblehead.

Giants fans could go get a few and do many, many things to it. Firecracker to the head, hammer to the head.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Radioactive sewage dip

by Natto on May 13, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

A 2nd bobblehead night will be Manny. Kind of funny that the Dodgers promotional dept. has two of three bobblehead nights of players who were not on the team 1 year ago today.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t be a bad idea. Somewhere convenient to put the firecracker.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

on one of the two upward pointing fingers

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Photoshop added!

What do you think of this? Got it at this very same entry…

by AGiantAmongMarlins on May 13, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

wow, the fodgers are beatin’ the doo-doo outta the phillies

by Merope on May 13, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Wrigley field is a joke when the wind is blowing out.

by Lars The Wanderer on May 13, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

an no fun when blowing in

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

No fun? Go watch slow pitch softball.

by Lars The Wanderer on May 13, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently the D-train got derailed a bit in the 1st inning. Too bad.

by Merope on May 13, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

If the Giants manage a split with the Mets, I will be happy.

by Lars The Wanderer on May 13, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

ruh-roh trashner’s in

by Merope on May 13, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

When I saw “37” pitching for the Giants today, I thought he was back. Misch pitched like him, too.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, he’s not doing too good

by Merope on May 13, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do I get my hopes so high?

So, Sandoval’s walk off last night was amazing; maybe too amazing. I have watched it now, no less than 20 times. My fear, however, is that if this season all begins to go to hell, I will cling ever closer to that video clip. I have visions of myself in September, pale, weak and bedridden; the product of another rough season. I refuse to eat, or shower. The clip of Sandoval’s walk off is on continuous loop, can no longer work a mouse with my withered hands. All the while muttering something about a “Panda” under my breath.

Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu

by AXmrdrir on May 13, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I had to erase it from my DVR

to keep myself from watching it over and over again

Zitoは遅い球のマスターである。 少なくとも今のところ。

by jordanovich on May 13, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

Is the Sunday game only on ESPN, or will ESPN be blacked out for us and we get it on CSN? I don’t mind either way, I just like to hear what the talking heads have to say about our team. And is Cain pitching that game?

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on May 13, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

The Giants broadcast schedule has the game as ESPN / MLB.TV so I’m guessing no CSN

and cain should be pitching…

by Merope on May 13, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s an ESPN national game of the week. Only ESPN gets it and everyone gets it (that has it).

by SFGuy on May 13, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

PhiLOLdelpia FAILies

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 13, 2009 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm watching Life of Brian right now...

And you know what? Brian Wilson sounds like a douche.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.

by WalrusMan on May 13, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions  

$$$$$$

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.

by WalrusMan on May 13, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can add text and graphics to the front of the shirts and sweatshirts.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on May 13, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

HE’S GIDDY

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 13, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Brian Wilson wasn’t a Giant, I think he would be among the most hated players on McC.

by SFGuy on May 14, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Concurrence.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 14, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Closer Mentality

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 14, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s already one of my most hated players!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 14, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, that's not fair

But he’s one of my least favorite Giants.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on May 14, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like I’m the only person that doesn’t have a problem with Brian Wilson.

by Natto on May 14, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dont REALLY mind him that much

but his hair is pretty stupid this year.

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 14, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no issue with him, I am not saying I could be his friend, but he seems like a decent person

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 14, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve got no problem with him either.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on May 14, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Brian Wilson.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on May 14, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

too many baserunners

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 14, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

His pitching is another story.

by Natto on May 14, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm amused by Wilson.

Does that count? I don’t hate him but I do laugh at him.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 14, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Besides Zimmerman, Nick Johnson had a very nice series against us: 7 for 14, HR, 7 RBI

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 13, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

a couple of bullpen arms and he is ours

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everybody shutup!

Adam Lambert is on the tv!

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on May 13, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, yeah, Giants baseball

It was mentioned up thread, but I just want to reiterate: It is a very good thing that the Giants pulled last night’s game out. Because this would have been the suckiest series of the year had they lost last night.

Pitcher better [Giants bullpen]!

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on May 13, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Soo… Matt Palmer’s line score tonight for LAA

9IP, 5H, 4R, 4ER, 2BB, 8SO, 1HR. Faced just 5 batters over the minimum

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 13, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Red Sox scored 2 in the 1st and 2 in the 2nd inning. Looked like Red Sox were going to beat him.

On a side note: Dave Roberts did the game for NESN as Jerry Remy is having health issues. I don’t know if this was our Dave Roberts but I think it was likely.

by SFGuy on May 14, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm done with Aurilia. Up to here (you can't see it, but I am holding my hand above my head to indicate where).

Went to today’s game with the Heir of Mayor. As with most baseball games, the outcome is determined by a very few number of moments which if they had gone differently, the outcome is the opposite. Today’s was one of those. Just two timely hits by Giants and just one different pitch by Zito and maybe just one different defensive play, and we win this thing by three. Fu@K!!

That one defensive play was Aurilia’s inexplicable holding the ball that was hit to him for a good solid two whole seconds before throwing it home; too late. I don’t usually scream at the games, especially when the Heir is napping in my arms, but I went serious deciBels on Richard. MotherfK$er, what the f%^K??? Throw. The. God. Damned. Ball. If he had thrown it after fielding it but before noticeable beard growth, that run doesn’t score, the inning ends before other runs score (I think; I might be wrong about that), and in my alternate universe, we win by 1 or 2.

So, it is mid-May, which I consider to be getting up towards OK sample size for the season, enough to start making some conclusions. It is clear that Aurilia < Ishikawa on defense (though Richard is sometimes able to dig out some throws that still look tough for Ish, but Ish will get better with those w/experience). Aurilia has nothing to teach anyone on this team. And while his .140 stick will be hard to replace, maybe we could muddle through with someone hitting, you know, .200.

We have all been unthrilled about Aurilia on this team, but have seen utility as having him on the bench. I now say screw that. Release him. Make Uribe our utility guy off the bench. Call up anyone you like. I don’t know that I would call up Guzman yet, only because I don’t think we have learned everything about Ishikawa yet & I would hate to see him have to split time 50/50 in order to justify having Guzman up here. I don’t know. You all can solve the problem of who to put on the 25-man roster.

Release Richie Right Row!

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 13, 2009 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Well put Mayor. I mean, what is the point of Richard? We could easily call up Matt Downs, who even Bochy said in Spring Training, that kid just hits. Plus, he can play some OF too as well as all IF. Just see what he can do. He is faster and cheaper than Aurilia and can probably hit his weight. Not Lincecum’s

Robby Thompson "hey Hinshaw, let me see your hat for a minute."
Alex HInshaw "Why?"
Robby Thompson ,"You'll see...."

by LargeFarva on May 13, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say Frandsen

Replace Richie with Kevin; he can be the right handed half of the 1B not-a-platoon and back up elsewhere in the IF (or OF) as needed.

It breaks my heart to say it, but I’m done with Aurilia too.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 13, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Richie would make a hell of a coach or manager. I have read that scouts are saying his bat speed is dramatically slow.
I love the guy, but it might be time to hang em up. And yes, Frandsen would be a good choice to replace him. We need some hustle and flow….

Robby Thompson "hey Hinshaw, let me see your hat for a minute."
Alex HInshaw "Why?"
Robby Thompson ,"You'll see...."

by LargeFarva on May 13, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen can play 1st?

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 13, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

He seems competent enough to handle it. He has a good glove and probably could pick up on the footwork part relatively quickly.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on May 13, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not?

He’s experienced at third so he’s used to the speed. He’s played everywhere else on the infield.

Anyway, it’s not like Aurilia is a defensive specialist at first. As far as I know Richie had never even played there before 2006.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 13, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh

I guess I never really thought about it but now that I do I don’t really see a problem with it

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 13, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as I know Richie had never even played there before 2006.

NUH UH! he played 3 innings there in 2004.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.

by WalrusMan on May 14, 2009 3:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the nostalgia is the only thing keeping Richie around. It cant be performance

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 13, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Veteran lust

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on May 13, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Veteran lust”

LOL!

Robby Thompson "hey Hinshaw, let me see your hat for a minute."
Alex HInshaw "Why?"
Robby Thompson ,"You'll see...."

by LargeFarva on May 13, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not going to read all that, but I’m sure I’d agree because it’s probably the same thing that’s been said a million times before.

by chilibean_3 on May 13, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The cliffs notes

He’s old and bad

Not so proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is definitely not Howry do it!

by CB30 on May 13, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the record

Reading some of the game day threads, my name came up in regards to Mays. Yes he is an asshole but he is the greatest Giant, if not the greatest player ever.

by SFGuy on May 14, 2009 1:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Dude. Wow.

Really not an asshole. I will go so far as “a bit of a whiner” about his statistics (especially his claim that the old configuration of Candlestick before CF was closed off allegedly robbed him of HRs…despite the fact that during those years, his road HR = home HR). But asshole? Empirically not. Read Roger Kahn’s books. He captures Willie better than any other writer.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on May 14, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

the dude responded to me when I wrote to him in elementry school. I did a biography of him and he was awesome to me, never called me but still…

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 14, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Player X is an asshole!

Too much is made of that one time Player X didn’t sign an autograph, or was a jerk to a waiter when you saw him in a restaurant. Or my cousin was a contractor and…. Or I knew a friend of his and she said… etc. etc. They’re all people and they are allowed to be rude once and a while. Imagine how hard it would be not to be arrogant if everyone around you was constantly stroking your ego. And if you have heard stories that go beyond rudeness, remember that plenty of people have axes to grind or reasons to paint another person as the villain. Especially if that person has money or fame and the ax grinder would like some too.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 14, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll say why he is an asshole

There was an incident at the then-Pac Bell Park. A young woman, who didn’t know what Mays looked like, asked him for his ticket. Mays got so bent out of shape to a point where this woman was scared of him. He screamed at her, backing her against the wall saying “DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!?!” over and over again to a point where a security had to push him away from her. She thought he was going to hit her.

by SFGuy on May 14, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you see that happen? I thought so… I honestly doubt that he would be using a ticketed entrance…

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on May 15, 2009 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Holm no. It’s not worth it.

by chilibean_3 on May 14, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

umwtf

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 14, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s in his contract, for every 4 shutout innings, Zito gets a hand job from the catcher of his choice.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 14, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

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