minor lines, 5/12/09
Not a good day for highlights, but I'll choose these. While (a) Clayton Tanner has six scoreless innings and (b) Ehire Adrianza reaches base three times, (c) the core of the Grizzlies lineup remains red hot, with Jesus Guzman, Matt Downs, and Ryan Rohlinger seemingly have a multi-hit line nearly every time they play.
AAA: Fresno defeated Round Round 12-3
Fresno: RF John Bowker: 2 for 4, BB
Fresno: 1B Jesus Guzman: 3 for 4, 3B
Fresno: 2B Matt Downs: 2 for 4, 2 2B, SF
Fresno: 3B Ryan Rohlinger: 3 for 5, SO
Round Round: CF Brian Bogusevic: 2 for 3, HR, 2B, BB
Fresno: RHP Kevin Pucetas: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 HR, 1 HB
Fresno: RHP Felix Romero: 3.0 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 1 K
With three hits each, Guzman and Rohlinger had half of the Grizzlies' dozen hits. They raised their respective AVGs to .359 and .328. Guzman had his fifth straight multi-hit game, while Rohlinger had his third straight multi-hit game. They also both have hitting streaks longer than ten games. Bowker also reached base three times. Downs' 7th and 8th doubles gave him a multi-hit line for the ninth time in his last ten games. Bogusevic, whom the Astros drafted 24th overall in 2005 as a pitcher, converted to the outfield last year, and his career has seemingly taken off in a hurry since. After his 3rd HR and 10th double tonight, as well as a walk in four plate appearances, he has a .324/.419/.505 line through 111 AB.
Pucetas had the minimum for a quality start, maintaining his ERA at 4.50. The 7 H tonight was a season-high, but throughout his minor league career he has seemed to do enough to get the win. His W-L record this year is now 3-1 after seven starts. Romero pitched three scoreless innings for his first save. He also got his ERA below 5.00.
AA: Connecticut defeated New Britain 4-2
Connecticut: LF Bobby Felmy: 1 for 4, HR, SB
Connecticut: 3B Brad Boyer: 3 for 4, 2B, SB
Connecticut: RHP Daryl Maday: 6.1 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 2 K--1 HR, 1 WP
Connecticut: LHP Ben Snyder: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 3 K
Boyer had three of the Defenders' nine hits, but his AVG remains below .200. Felmy had his 3rd HR. His OPS remains just below .750, although it is still higher than the .724 OPS he had a year ago in the Cal League.
Maday pitched into the 7th inning for the first time this year. Even with a season-high 7 H, his BAA remains just .211. Also, even with just two of his seven starts at home, his ERA remains an impressive 2.29. Through nine relief appearances, Snyder remains tough to hit with 13 H and 24 K in 23.2 IP.
A+: San Jose lost to Visalia 2-1
San Jose: 2B Nick Noonan: 2 for 4, 2B
San Jose: C Buster Posey: 1 for 4, SO, SB, PB
San Jose: CF Shane Jordan: 0 for 3, 3 SO
Visalia: RF Colin Cowgill: 1 for 3, 3B, HBP
San Jose: LHP Clayton Tanner: 6.0+ IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 1 K--1 HB
San Jose: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 0.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER
Noonan, who had not exactly been swinging a hot bat with oh-fers in four of his last five games, provided most of the Giants' offense tonight. He had two of their three hits, including his 3rd double, to raise his AVG back to .272. Posey had their other hit, as well as his 2nd SB. He was also charged with his 7th passed ball. Jordan struck out in all three of his plate appearances, dropping his AVG to .111 through 36 AB in his part-time role. Cowgill, whom BA rated the D'backs' #9 prospect, continues to have a very productive year, with tonight's game improving his season line to .297/.380/.534 through 118 AB.
Although he had a season-low 1 K, Tanner had six scoreless innings before walking the only batter he faced in the 7th inning. Three straight appearances without an earned run have lowered his ERA from 4.63 at the end of April to 2.28. Quirarte allowed his first earned run of the year after allowing a leadoff triple in the bottom of the 9th inning, followed by a ground out and a game-ending RBI single.
A-: Augusta lost to Greenville 7-2
Augusta: CF Ben Woodbury: 1 for 3, 2B, 2 BB
Augusta: 1B Mike Loberg: 0 for 4, SO, GiDP, 3 E
Augusta: 2B Juan Perez: 2 for 4, E
Augusta: SS Ehire Adrianza: 2 for 3, BB
Augusta: LHP Ari Ronick: 5.2 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 6 K--1 HR
With two hits each, the GreenJackets' two middle infielders combined for half of the team's eight hits. Perez and Adrianza now have AVGs of .267 and .276. Adrianza and Woodbury, whose 3rd double was the GreenJackets' only XBH, each reached base three times. Loberg, who was perhaps Salem-Keizer's best hitter last summer, continues to have a fairly miserable start to his first full season in pro ball. With the oh-fer, his AVG fall back below .200, and three errors in a single game is pretty unusual for a first baseman.
After allowing just 5 ER over his previous four starts combined, Ronick allowed 4 ER in this start. Despite very good peripherals with 24 H, 8 BB, and 24 K in 30.1 IP, he has a 1-3 W-L record in six starts.
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Wow…there are so many players in triple A that I’d actually be excited to see called up. Not to say they’d do well up here, but it’d be interesting. Bowker, Downs, Frandsen, Guzman, Rohlinger. If this were last season we would’ve been able to call all of em up 2 weeks ago.
by i wish we were good on May 13, 2009 12:52 AM PDT reply actions
I would be excited to see damn near anyone
if it meant that we were getting rid of Aurillia and/or Uribe.
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someone mentioned the other day that Jesus Guzman is doing ok at Fresno, but hardly tearing it up. He’s officially now tearing it up.
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He is, it’s true. But it’s still hard to believe that that 5bb/24k approach could play at the big-league level.
Also
He’s 25, it’s the PCL, and he’s still not hitting as well as Ishikawa did as a 24 y-o in the same league.
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However, he has had consistently better milb numbers than Ish
moving up, hasn’t he?
If I recall, Ish struggled for a few years there and then became a non prospect that all of a suddent turned it around. I was under the impression that Jesus could always hit (PRAISE HIM) but that he couldn’t field. I’m not sure that he and Ish are a good comparison.
Of course, I could be missing lots of stuff as I haven’t followed this Jesus all that closely.
Not really
After a decent year as a 20 y-o in A+, Jesus couldn’t really handle AA at age 22, hitting .258/.330/.393. He stayed in AA for another year, this time hitting .257/.335/.382. His first good year came the year after that, in 2007, when he was demoted back to A+. The next year he finally hit well in AA. So, when you think about it, he’s had 2 good years – as a 24 y-o in his third year in AA, and as a 23 y-o in his second year in A+, after he had spent the last two years in AA.
Overall, Ishikawa is clearly the more patient hitter, while Guzman is the better contact hitter. Both have shown inconsistent power. But Ishikawa is also considered very good defensively, while, from I understand, Guzman isn’t much of a fielder.
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Guzman also didn’t do very well in AAA last year, albeit in only about 65 PAs.
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He also had some PED stuff when in the M’s organization. Not that it’s the black kiss of death or anything, but something to think about.
Well, that just spoiled baseball for me forever. IF I CAN’T TRUST JESUS GUZMAN, WHO CAN I TRUST? ;_;
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
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by say hey nation on May 13, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I would think so at this point. Maybe his stuff doesn’t project so well beyond the first time through the order? I’d be curious to see if he’s added velocity in relief.
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by Smotheredinhugs on May 13, 2009 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably. I’ve always been a fan of Snyder for whatever reason. He’s pretty much the same as Pucetas and Martinez.
But left handed.
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Round Round is round
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Right Round
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by EliminateMe on May 13, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
His walk rate has gone insane. It’s currently at 17.1% after never breaking double-digits in his minor league career. I don’t know what to make of that. His true talent for walking isn’t 17+ percent, but could he have made some strides in plate discipline?
The average BB% for qualifying hitters in the PCL is 9.82%. Bowker’s wRAA in Fresno is at +5.6 runs. That places him 23rd in the PCL for wRAA.
Kinda OT: But Jake Fox has been ridiculous in AAA. His wRAA is at +20.9 runs, a .500 ISO, 8.4 BB%, 24.5 K%, and a batting line of: .388/.465/.888 with 12 HR’s in 114 PA’s.
Has anyone studied how big a sample you need before a player’s walk rate becomes worth paying attention to? I’ve always assumed it’s one of those things, like a pitcher’s k rate, that becomes reliable very quickly, but I don’t actually know.
Not sure, but my thinking is that he’s got a pretty established BB% over his career that I’m not sure he can just remake himself as a hitter (see: Jeff Francoeur). It’ll be something to follow in AAA though.
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His OPS+ is lower than it was last year. LOL
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sosa did
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Sosa also developed (ROIDS) huge power, like .300+ ISO power. I wish FanGraphs plate discipline stats went back that far to see if he was just getting less strikes as a result of his power.
I seem to remember someone studying that very question, and discovering that a lot of his increase in walks was the result of being pitched around.
He was an increase in IBB’s which might support the idea that he was seeing less strikes or more likely to be pitched around.
For fun, here’s a scatter plot from last season for qualifying hitters ranked by BB% and ISO with a trend line.

The R-squared for this is .155, so not a huge correlation but ISO does matter some when it comes to walking. If I tweaked some of the outliers it might tighten up some.
So did Reyes
And definitely not because he was getting pitched around. He was still very young at the time, though, 21-22 years old.
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weighted runs above average, I think
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by say hey nation on May 13, 2009 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
is there a cure?
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 13, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
that combined with a dose of MLB pitching will probably clear it right up
by FluLikeSymptoms on May 13, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m like a Typhoid Bowker disease vector.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 13, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at the San Jose/Visalia game last night -
it sucked losing in the bottom of the 9th inning, but …
Noonan didn’t just look good offensively, he made some tremendous defensive plays too. This guy is really starting to look like an excellent second baseman right now.
Same goes for Posey, he throws perfectly from the plate to second base, with what looks like none to minimal effort.
Tanner looked really sharp last night too, even without the Ks, he was in control the whole time, dominating each batter and producing ground out after ground out. It seemed like Visalia was trying to kill him, 4 different line drives were hit right straight at him, but he caught every single one, spinning around to throw to second on one play for a quick double play.
Villalona had some excellent at bats, driving up the count, and hitting 4-5 fouls in different at bats (some of which definately showed some power). Looked like he was systematically figuring each reliever out during the at bat. He got hit by pitch pretty hard in his first at bat, but it didn’t seem to phase him (and he ended up scoring their only run of the night, and kept playing the whole game even though I thought they were going to take him out of the game).
On another note: it was pretty cool, because there seemed to be as many Giants fans there rooting & cheering for San Jose as there were Visalia fans rooting for Rawhide. After a sucky bottom of the ninth, it made the night better coming home to hear about San Francisco & Sandoval’s bottom of the ninth.
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Beat me to the punch!
I was there as well…which section were you in? Maybe I saw you.
Pretty much agree with everything you had to say. Posey’s PB was pretty inexcusable but it didn’t hurt them in the end. Noonan was very impressive in the field!
Villalona’s HBP was pretty scary. He spent so much time with the trainers I feared he may have broken something but looks like he’s OK since he played the rest of the game. Way to gut it out, man! He also seemed pretty OK on the basepaths as well, legging out a SF from 2nd to 3rd and showing Panda-esque agility.
I’ll be there Thursday as well and I’ll have some pictures up shortly. What they’ve done with the ballpark there is incredible.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 13, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
anything worth noting on Villalona’s defense? I have seen him look pretty bad a few times this year and have observed instances of the lack of effort that Keith Law wrote about in one of his columns?
by FluLikeSymptoms on May 13, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Daryl Maday
Does anyone think he could become a useful back-of-the-rotation starter eventually? He doesn’t strike too many out but he’s got a WHIP below 1 and a GB 56% (statheads, what’s the cutoff for a good GB%?).
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on May 13, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions
Some Grizzlies news
Bowker missed time last week because of a minor leg injury. It’s clearly not affecting him as he’s raking.
McBryde is at extended spring training after he got hit by a pitch on his hand a few weeks ago. He’s working to get the full range of motion back.
Jesus Guzman is a monster. That didn’t come from my source, but it’s newsworthy.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 8:42 AM PDT reply actions
pas de probleme
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Frandsen got ejected last night, apparently from the dugout, as he struck out, and then was ejected AFTER the next batter’s AB. Too bad he couldn’t take part in the killing going on.
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Time for more coffee…
First time I read the Frandsen paragraph I thought I saw
"…ejected last night, apparently from the dugout, as he streaked out …"
Where is my beer & chili dog?
Ran his mouth
Got ran
Ran naked
Natural progression.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Cal league observations
Arizona is loaded with pitching prospects. Jarrod parker spent like three weeks in Visalia before he was called up to AA and he dominated. Wes Roemer, another who owned the league, was just called up Monday. They have Patrick McAnaney as well, who just won player of the week. He has 33 K in 32 IP and just eight walks.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 9:25 AM PDT reply actions
Goddammit Juan Carlos Perez
Take a walk, or it’s your choice:


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What? It’s going to hurt me more than it hurts him.
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call CPS
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
THOSE AREN’T STERILE!
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