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minor lines, 5/11/09

Today's highlights: (a) Madison Bumgarner makes his upper minors debut, allowing just one run in six innings; (b) Jesus Guzman has five hits; and (c) Brandon Crawford has a couple XBHs, plus a single.

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AAA: Fresno defeated Reno 14-3
(after leading 10-1 after three innings)

Fresno: SS Kevin Frandsen: 3 for 5, 2B, SF
Fresno: 1B Jesus Guzman: 5 for 6, 2B, CS
Fresno: LF Tyler Graham: 3 for 5, SO, SB
Fresno: C Eli Whiteside: 1 for 5, HR, 3 SO
Fresno: C Stephen Drew: 2 for 4, E

Fresno: RHP Matt Kinney: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 4 K--1 HR, 1 WP
Reno: LHP Travis Blackley: 4.2 IP, 9 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 5 K-- 1 PO

Guzman had five of the Grizzlies' twenty-one hits, raising his team-leading AVG to an impressive .347.  He's had multiple hits in four straight games and at least one hit in all ten games in May.  Frandsen and Graham added three hits of their own.  Whiteside must love the stadium in Reno, as he now has 4 HRs in three games there.  The D'backs Drew had two hits in his second rehab game.

Kinney had his third "quality start" among seven starts, getting his ERA back below 7.00.  Blackley provided long relief against his former team.  After beginning the year with an ERA over 8.00 in five starts, he has now made two appearances out of the bullpen.

AA: Connecticut defeated New Britain 5-1

Connecticut: SS Brandon Crawford: 3 for 5, 3B, 2B, 2 GiDP
New Britain: 3B Danny Valencia: 3 for 4, 2B

Connecticut: LHP Madison Bumgarner: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K--1 PO
Connecticut: RHP Waldis Joaquin: 2.0 IP, 2 H

With the Defenders' only multi-hit line, Crawford had his first two XBHs in the upper minors.  Valencia, whom BA rated as the Twins #5 prospect, had three hits, raising his AVG to .298.

Bumgarner made his upper minors debut.  He was hardly dominant allowing 4 XBH and having just 2 K, but he allowed just a single run.  He managed to erase three baserunners with a pick off, a ground ball double play, and a lineout double play.  He had a 6/8 GO/FO line.  Joaquin had two scoreless innings.  This was just his second appearance in which he has allowed more hits than walks.  Through ten appearances his peripheral stats are 11 H, 12 BB, and 13 K in 16.1 IP.

A+: San Jose had a scheduled off-day
(Their next scheduled off-day is May 26.)

Giants on Cal League leaderboards:
--Hitters:
AVG: Crawford 7th, Neal 9th
OBP: Neal 5th, Crawford 7th
SLG: Crawford 10th, Neal 11th
OPS: Neal 8th, Crawford 9th
HR: Crawford 8th
3B: Kieschnick 4th, Noonan 4th
2B: Neal 7th
H: Crawford 8th, Villalona 9th
TB: Crawford 9th, Neal 10th, Posey 12th
BB: Ford 5th, Gillaspie 10th
SO: Ford 2nd, Crawford 8th
AB: Posey 7th
RBI: Posey 7th
R: (none)
SB: (none)
CS: Ford 8th, Crawford 8th
--Pitchers:
ERA: (none)
WHIP: (none)
IP: (none)
K: (none)
BB: (none)
H: (none)
HR: Odle 1st, Lively 6th
HB: Whitaker 7th
R: (none)
ER: Odle 10th
G: (none)
W: Bumgarner 6th, Barnes 6th
L: Odle 7th
Sv: Quirarte 6th
Hld: WiRodriguez 5th, Lively 5th

A-: Augusta defeated Greenville 9-5
(after leading 8-1 after seven innings)

Augusta: CF Ben Woodbury: 3 for 5, 2B, GiDP
Augusta: DH C.J. Ziegler: 2 for 5, 2 2B, SO

Augusta: RHP Kyle Nicholson: 7.1 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 8 K--1 HR, 1 WP

Woodbury had three of the GreenJackets' twelve hits, raising his AVG to .358.  He hit .296 in 27 AB in April but has a red-hot .423 AVG through 26 AB in May.

Nicholson allowed just one run through seven innings before three more runs were charged to his record in the 8th inning.  He had a season-high 8 K in his third straight start of 7.0+ IP.  His K/BB ratio is just shy of 4.00.

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Crawford is slowly going to find himself off the CAL leaderboard. Good to see him swinging well today, although I’m wondering if it would have been better he K’ed twice instead of GiDP’ed twice.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 11, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Hi Travis! It sure has been a while eh mate?

The absentee father of Edwin "Cue Ball" Quirarte, now that he is doin well in the minors, its time to get back in his life, and in his checking account!

by TexasRanger on May 11, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Eugh.

Looks a bit moldy there.

Formerly Revolution1 || Status: Worried that Giants are going to sell my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages || Barry Zito: Throws Canyons Mildly Half-OK

by GiantBrass on May 11, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a thing that makes an imprint on your bread so you can have Jesus toast anytime you need it.

Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.

by Johnny Disaster on May 12, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crawford in two

Looks like Renteria’s era will end in two years with the giants as Crawford is the SS of the future, not adrianza.

by bradleybear on May 12, 2009 12:05 AM PDT reply actions  

You can never have too many shortstops of the future.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 12, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally. I’ll take a dozen!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on May 12, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also noticed that Augusta 2B Juan Perez has still yet to take a BB this season. He’s currently up to 116 AB’s with no walks.

by xanthan on May 12, 2009 5:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Isn’t this where you insert a joke about him fitting in well with the Giants!

Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!

by GiantFan on May 12, 2009 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

What the hell is wrong with this org?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on May 12, 2009 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

WALKS R BAD

I don’t know, Perez is supposedly pretty raw. Still, rawness and all, you would think he’d have at least 1 or 2 walks by now.

by xanthan on May 12, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, maybe Bengie’s still raw, too. Once he seasons up a bit he’s gonna be a heck of a hitter.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on May 12, 2009 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s going to break out in his age 45 season!

by xanthan on May 12, 2009 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s the real reason they didn’t want Bonds back.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 12, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Walks are The Forbidden Result.

Search your hart, for you know it to be true.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 12, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

All I found were pink tights.

by Natto on May 12, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

His strikeouts aren’t too bad, and he’s hitting for a little bit of power, but he really does need to sprinkle in some walks. They’ll come, I blame Augusta and the Sally League for now.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on May 12, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gruesome OBPs in the System

McBryde .250
Perez .281
Culberson .285
Pill.294
Bocock .298
J. Williams .299

In fairness to Bocock and Williams, they’re actually two of the best in the system at taking walks, they just can’t hit a lick. Culberson, too.

Other horrible walk rates:

Michael Ambort 3BB in 94 ABs
Jesus Guzman 4BB in 124 ABs
Angel Villalona 4BB in 115 ABs
Bobby Felmy 5BB in 103 ABs
Matt Downs 6 BB in 116 ABs

That’s just “The Aggressively Patient Approach to Hitting” in action!

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on May 12, 2009 6:25 AM PDT reply actions  

I still like Ambort! He’s always walked a little, but he’s been hurt a lot. Jesus has never really walked (LOL ON WATER JOKE GOES HERE) all that much but you’d like to see more patience.

Pill and Culberson stink.

by xanthan on May 12, 2009 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Charlie Culberson, Lord of Errors and Grand Exemplar of Hitting Futility

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on May 12, 2009 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lord of Errors and Grand Exemplar of Hitting Futility

If that doesn’t say future Giants middle infielder I am not sure what does. I think all that is missing a speed refference.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on May 12, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a tough Culberson to swallow! Wait, I think I did that wrong.

by Natto on May 12, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I c what u did

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on May 12, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pill versus Andy D’Alessio. Who can play themselves out of the Giant’s system first. I think Andy’s ahead right now, but Pill is looking to catch up.

Maybe they can develop into something. It’d be cool if they eventually linked their power to contact and walks.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 12, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

BUT BRETT PILL HIT 47 DOUBLES IN 2007! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT

by xanthan on May 12, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

oooh, I like doubles!

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 12, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Roger , I need you you help me out here. Downs has always had what seems to be a low walk rate. His career walk rate is only 8.14%. His only season with a walk rate over 10 % was his AFL Rookie season.

His career OBP seems reasonable to me at .367, with a SO % that has remained around 11%. His career line of .309/.367/.855 with 90 doubles translates to an MLE of .258/.309.740 and 74 doubles

The walk numbers while low, seem OK to me. Is it possible to have a low walk rate and be a high contact hitter at the MLB level ?

"One percent of ballplayers are leaders of men. The other ninety-nine percent are followers of women."-John McGraw, NY Giants Baseball Club

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on May 12, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are plenty of players that fit that description. Bengie Molina is one, for example.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 12, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

most of the Anaheim Angels are like that

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on May 12, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still better than Bengie Molina!

by Natto on May 12, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crawford

Connecticut: SS Brandon Crawford: 3 for 5, 3B, 2B, 2 GiDP

So 5 PAs with 6 TB and 4 outs? A neat line for a night’s work.

Still, I’m excited for this guy as a prospect.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 12, 2009 7:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Great kid

I knew him a little bit in college (some of my best friends worked for the team). Very good guy who tries incredibly hard and has all the talent in the world.

I’d be surprised if he doesn’t start for a major league team at some point

by dprodigy19 on May 12, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol, hopefully that team is the Giants.

Brandon Crawford: Your 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on May 12, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

MadBum must have a hell of a pickoff move! He seems to pick someone off every start.

Bowker, Frandsen, Guzman > Lewis, Velez, Ishikawa

by NuschlerFace on May 12, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

You mean lefties can do that?

LOL Sanchez, Johnson, Zito

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on May 12, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Jesus

also has 1 E in 254 chances at 1B. Anyone hear any firsthand reports on his D?

by UVHaight on May 12, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

A lot of people here think he's really bad

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on May 12, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw him in Reno last Saturday

He’s faster than he looks …. hit a triple that would’ve been a double for a lot of people and beat out an infield single.

He catches the balls thrown to him.

He had one chance to make a play off a bat and didn’t make it. Allowed two runs to score because of it. Wasn’t an error, he just let the ball go under his glove.

This was just one game, but taken with the rumors about his glove it made me think he’s not really MLB material yet. Gotta imporve that glove. Too bad he can’t be the DH for Ishikawa. Best of both worlds.

by Shoeless on May 12, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw him early on in the season, second game of the year. He didn’t look horrible but at that point I was concerned with his footwork around the bag. I’ll be in Fresno Saturday and will keep a closer eye on him.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 12, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

At won’t point do we beg JT Snow to take off the postgame suit and haul ass down to Fresno for like three weeks and turn him into a gold glover?

by m34josh on May 12, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

At what point do we beg JT Snow to take over at 1st base in SF.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on May 12, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take it

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 12, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like pitchers who look like they're going to eat a baby

They mean business.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 12, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

They took the picture...

…right after MadBum said “Wanna see what it’d look like if a gopher could strike you out on three pitches?”

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on May 12, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

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