minor lines, 5/10/09
by steve S on May 10, 2009 10:28 PM PDT
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PrintThere is no question that the big highlight of the day is (a) Tim Alderson's dominant upper minors debut. Also deserving highlight status are (b) Eli Whiteside homering twice for the Grizzlies and (c) a trio of San Jose Giants--Posey, Villalona, and Neal--each reaching base three times.
AAA: Fresno defeated Reno 12-8 (10 innings)
(after leading 7-1 in the middle of the 7th inning)
Fresno: SS Kevin Frandsen: 2 for 4, BB
Fresno: RF John Bowker: 2 for 4, 2B, BB
Fresno: C Eli Whiteside: 2 for 5, 2 HR, SO
Fresno: PH Jake Wald: 1 for 1, HR
Reno: SS Stephen Drew: 1 for 5, 3B, SO
Fresno: LHP Steve Hammond: 6.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 4 K--1 HB, 1 WP
Fresno: LHP Alex Hinshaw: 1.0 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB
Fresno: LHP Geno Espineli: 1.2 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER
Six Grizzlies had two hits each. Among them, Whiteside homered twice, his 3rd and 4th HRs of the year. The second homer was was a solo shot to lead off the 9th inning that provided a needed insurance run. Frandsen and Bowker each reached base three times, improving their respective OBPs to .370 and .434. Frandsen now has as many walks as strikeouts, while Bowker has more walks than strikeouts. Wald provided the game's big, dramatic shot with a one-out, grand slam HR in the 10th inning. The D'backs Drew played his first rehab game, including a triple against Hinshaw.
Hammond had an atypical start, allowing a season-high 4 BB but allowing season lows with just 1 H and just 1 ER. He got his ERA back below 5.00. After six straight appearances without allowing a run, Hinshaw allowed 3 ER. His WHIP since his demotion remains above 2.00 with 8 H and 9 BB in 6.2 IP. Espineli stranded both inherited runners in the 8th inning but then allowed two runs of his own in the 9th inning for his first blown save of the year.
AA: Connecticut defeated New Hampshire 3-0
(adding two insurance runs in the 9th inning)
Connecticut: SS Brandon Crawford: 2 for 4, E
Connecticut: RF Eddy Martinez-Esteve: 2 for 3, BB, GiDP, E
Connecticut: 1B Brett Pill: 2 for 3, BB
Connecticut: RHP Tim Alderson: 6.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 10 K
Connecticut: RHP Jesse Foppert: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 2 K
EME and Pill each reached base three times, raising their respective OBPs to very different marks of .380 and .304. Also with two hits was Crawford, who collected his first hits in the upper minors.
Making his upper minors debut, Alderson had his best start of the season, facing just two batters over the minimum. The second batter in the bottom of the 1st inning reached on an error. Otherwise, he had a perfect game into the 7th inning, when he allowed a one-out walk. After beginning the season with four starts, Foppert made his first relief appearance, pitching for the first time in a week.
A+: San Jose defeated Modesto 8-5
San Jose: SS Brian Bocock: 2 for 4, SF
San Jose: 2B Nick Noonan: 0 for 4, BB, CS, 2 E
San Jose: C Buster Posey: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, SO, GiDP
San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 1 for 3, BB, HBP
San Jose: 1B Angel Villalona: 3 for 5
San Jose: LHP Scott Barnes: 5.1 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 3 K--1 HR
San Jose: LHP Dan Turpen: 2.0 IP, 3 K
After going hitless in his previous two games, Posey rebounded by reaching base three times, including his 9th double. Villalona's three hits raised his AVG to .330. Batting leadoff and playing his second game since being demoted from Connecticut, Bocock was the other Giant with a multi-hit line. Batting cleanup, Neal also reached base three times, further improving his OBP to .455. The only Giant in the lineup without a hit, Noonan had a rough afternoon, including being picked off second base and committing his 5th and 6th errors of the season. Without a hit in his last three games, his AVG has fallen to .264.
Barnes allowed a season-high 4 BB but tied a season low with 3 H in his longest start of the season. Despite an ERA close to 5.00, he has a 3-1 W-L record this year. Turpen had a season-high 3 K as he picked up his 3rd save among eleven appearances. With today's appearance, he got his WHIP below 1.00.
A-: Augusta had a scheduled off-day
(Its next scheduled off-day is May 19.)
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He’s down with O.B.P.
Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.
by rightcenterfielder on May 10, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on May 11, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
Adopted Giant: John Bowker, who is currently walking wild over the PCL.
by rightcenterfielder on May 11, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
outstanding performance. And great to see Crawford bounce back with a couple of hits. EME keeps hacking away and nobody cares
I care
I remember mentioning EME a little while back and wondering WTF is up with the guy. Why he’s still in AA when he seems to be doing pretty well.
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by bondslegend on May 11, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Do not know why
First you hear about his poor defense yet they move him to RF. Then they say no power and this year he already has 11 XBHs in about 100 PAs when last season he had only 21 XBHs in about 450 PAs.
One day hopefully somebody will notice. Hopefully it is the Giants rather than another organization.
If EME is hitting for more power, he’ll get pushed up to AAA, but his line this year is .301/.380/.473.
Granted, it’s early and that’s a small sample, but Minor League Splits has EME’s prior-to-yesterday line of .292/.369/.472 as translating to a major-league line of .250/.311/.402.
Sure, on this team that actually constitutes an improvement, but we already have Bowker and broken-bat Schierholtz ahead of him. I would be fine with dumping Timpner or some other useless minor-league filler, or Eugenio Velez, to give EME a shot at a higher level, but it’s not like he’s ready for MLB, despite him being a Boriqua, Wil :)
That said, EME must be thinking "WTF do I have to do to get out of this hellhole? Am I the only guy in the org that can’t get to Fresno? Even fricking Bocock went straight to the majors. Ortmeier, Timpner, Denker, Rohlinger, Ochoa, and others get to MLB and I can’t even get to Fresno? #### you.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 11, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I was just looking at his splits. Dodd is just killing his slugging. It is early to be looking at splits but his home away slugging difference is crazy and it was worse last year. From the splits it looks like he has two different styles. Maybe he realized he can’t hit for power at Dodd and just tries to get on base; Then is willing to swing away on the road. I wonder if with a consistent approach we might see a big jump in power. Hopefully we will get a chance to see at some point this year.
Dodd
2009: .314/.405/.400 – 3 xbh
2008: .266/.387/.287 – 2 xbh
Away
2009: .293/.364/.517 – 8 xbh
2008: .330/.390/.478 – 19 xbh
Bowker hit for some pop in Dodd just 2 years ago. There’s no reason EME shouldn’t be able to hit for SOME power there, even if it is just doubles power, stat-wise. Unfortunately, he’s been a ground-ball hitting machine (although he’s improved this season) and that just doesn’t get the job done. That may have been due to the shoulder problems, but it is still a fact.
Anyway, this is his 4th time in AA (granted last year was the closest thing to a full season there) and he’ll be 26 years old in 2 months. I think the Giants should move him up to AAA to see what he can do or just cut bait and let him go somewhere else. Either way, I just don’t see him as a prospect anymore and have a hard time seeing him ever making it to the majors with the Giants, especially given the outfield glut in front of him and the outfielders coming up behind him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Bowker hit for some pop in Dodd just 2 years ago.
Wasn’t that before the shoulder issues?
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Nah
I didn’t hear anything about shoulder issues for him last year. He hit 22 homers with CT in 2007.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 11, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry. the shoulder issues I was referring to were EME’s (I believe it was the shoulder or arm or back or something that has slowed him down). the point I was trying to make was that it IS possible to hit for some power in Dodd, which is why I cited Bowker. Everything else is about EME.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowker
Bowker was decent at home and fantastic on the road that year. Home: .271/.330/0.422. Away:.343/.397/.627 Minorleaguesplits has EME at .324/.415/0.412 at Dodd this year. The difference in slugging at home between Bowker circa 2007 and EME this year is just .422 to .412. Although, I am not sure where the discrepancy in the stats is happening. The stats I posted earlier for EME were from minorleaguebaseball.com. Either way it is there is not a huge difference in slugging at Dodd.
It is not like there is a glut of great outfielders in Fresno. At the moment you have Timpner and McBryde in center. Then Bowker and Horwitz at the corners and Grahm backing them up. If you promoted EME they could rotate the corner OF and DH and let everyone play most days.
sure. I was more referring to last season where EME slugged .277 at home in essentially a full season. this year, he’s been better. But I agree that the Giants should shit or get off the pot with the guy. Keeping him in Connecticut for another year isn’t going to accomplish much.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Bet the Denker and Graham promotions ate at him the most. Denker was hitting a buck fifty or so and before you can say “The Show” Denker is in The CIty. And then Graham gets promoted without any production this season
The organization has a lot of LHH OFs (Lewis, Schierholtz, Bowker, Kieschnick) but few if any RHH OFs (Neal, ?) so maybe EME will get a chance one day.
EME is not Boricua. He is Cubano.
anyone else get the feeling that Buster is not going to see Norwich? I think his ticket is being punched for Fresno as we type…
Why do you say that? I thought working with Decker was a big consideration for him development-wise.
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This is becoming my NATE SCHIERHOLTZ CAN’T PLAY THIRD because it comes up all the time and I always feel the need to chime in, but it apparently is the plan to leave Posey in San Jose a little longer than the other guys and then skip him directly to Fresno. Both Brute and Baron have said this is what their sources have indicated will happen.
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are you trying to imply that Nate Schierholtz can’t play third base?
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
WHO IS THIS SCHIERHOLTZ GUY EVERYONE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT?
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on May 11, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t he that kid that almost got plowed over in the ’02 Series?
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by UnleashTheGore on May 11, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
San Jose manager Andy Skeels was a catcher, too. There’s no reason to believe he can’t help Buster with his receiving skills in the same way as Decker.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
This caught my eye
…from the Freson Bee on-line report on the Grizzlies:
Middle of the order keeps producing: In the past 11 games, Kevin Frandsen, John Bowker, Guzman, Downs and Rohlinger have combined to bat .377 (77 for 204) with 10 home runs, 47 RBIs and 46 runs scored.
Had it only been against one team, or even two teams with poor pitching, it might be less impressive. But this really gives me hope. I’ve always been a fan of Downs and Frandsen. Now it seems reasonable that at least ONE of the these guys could help major league team at some point this year.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
Was at the game Friday and Sunday,
and the middle of the infield defense looks pretty solid. Downs/Frandsen turned two double plays. Both are not GG infielders, but have good range, decent arms, and fairly soft hands. Both handle the bat well, with a good approach at the plate, and reasonable power. Their numbers so far this year are very similar with Frandsen at .295/.370/.402/.773 in 29 games and Downs at .300/.336/.464./.800 in 28 games.
I would hope that one or both of these guys see some time in the City later this year.
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I was there yesterday also. Whiteside’s 2 HR’s were absolute BOMBS!
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by NuschlerFace on May 11, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It'll be interesting...
to see Alderson go against the same team later this week. MadBum goes today for CT on the road in NB.
Go Jake!
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So I assume Alderson is still on a very strict pitch count. I kind of would have liked to see how far he could have taken that start.
The milb.com story for the game has comments from him that he was tiring at the end so I don’t think he had much more to give.
“I was a little tired toward the end,” Alderson admitted, crediting Grimsley and manager Steve Decker for their encouragement. “They told me, ‘If you’re running out of gas, just keep the ball down. Don’t overthrow.’”
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
uniforms are too blue.
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I like that.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Is he going to be able to keep runners from running at will on him? Does anyone know if he shortens up with runners on base, or is he a potential Chris Young when it comes to stolen bases?
by Splash Down on May 11, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
IIRC the first year he got to SJ, he always would pitch in the stretch
by SoFa King Mike on May 11, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I seem to recall that one of the Giants’ recent pitching prospects pitched exclusively out of the stretch as an amateur – was that Alderson?
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that was Alderson. He only started pitching from the windup last season (unless he did so in 2007 short season)
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s also the reason so many projected him as a future closer.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
the arm motion looks kinda k-rody
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
It didn’t seem as violent as K-rod’s to me, at least in person.
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His arm motion is a lot smoother now, compared to that high school shot above, though the leg motion remains the same.
by SoFa King Mike on May 11, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Alderson talking about his changeup in BA
To Alderson, other than winning his Double-A debut, his changeup was encouraging. He says he’s getting the arm speed to mirror that of his delivery on the fastball.
“I like where it’s at right now,” Alderson said. “I’m not trying to make it perfect and that helps.”
Does anyone know
where i can find the baby Giants’ projected starters for this week’s series against the Oaks Rawhide? Or if you happen to know, could you list them? Thanks much.
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by UnleashTheGore on May 11, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions
I’d suggest checking the San Jose website tomorrow, perhaps late morning.
http://www.sjgiants.com/
They should have an “on deck” article that will list the probable starting pitchers throughout the series.
Great to see the Bowker/Franny machine doing so well.
Why not sent Velez and Ishy down and bring BF up? Get some hot bats in the order for a change. Alderson is the real deal… Fresno by August. You heard it here first.
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Alderson is the real deal… Fresno by August. You heard it here first.
Sorry to say, but I’ve heard that before today.
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Mad Bum gives up a hit in the first inning. DEMOTE HIM!
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
Alderson > Bum
He needs to get on the ball.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 11, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
at least alphabetically and in their AA debuts. Bumgarner has given up 7 hits thru 5 innings however is winning 2-1
2 k’s, the last coming on a changeup to snuff out a rally.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
2-0 Connecticut after 3.5
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions
Crawford slams a long double off the wall
also, EME out of the game. sounds like some kind of injury.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions
now it’s unclear. could be just a switch.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 11, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
PROSPECT AGAIN
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And grounds into a DP his last time up.
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