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Gold Star for Bruce Bochy...

...well, then that's okay.

Overreaction to Opening Day is the right of the paranoid fan. When Tim Lincecum only pitches three innings, it’s our right to start freaking out. Was his velocity down? Was his control the only problem? Did he revamp his delivery? My co-worker heard from a friend that some guy on KNBR said he looked hurt, so should we tank the season and try and trade the #5 pick and an expiring contract for Stephen Strasburg? I cherish this right of the paranoid fan.

Instead of freaking out about Lincecum – who’s fine, of course– let’s bask in the warm glow of Opening Day and highlight one of the many positive aspects of the day. In the grand scheme of things, the order of the lineup means about as much to the Giants’ season as would a costume change for Lou Seal, but two points stick out:

  • Ishikawa hitting in front of Rowand
  • Burriss hitting eighth

I’m not sure if Felipe Alou would have had the same lineup – he would have had Brian Wilson warm up in the 7th, 8th, and 9th innings before sitting him, of course – but I’m sure that Dusty Baker wouldn’t have. This is all conjecture, but Dusty would have known that Burriss is the speed guy. He’s the guy with speed. Ergo, he would have been at the top of Dusty’s lineup. And Rowand is a veteran "power" guy. There isn’t a chance in the world that Dusty would have had Ishikawa hitting in front of Rowand. My guess at what Dusty’s lineup would have been:

2B - Burriss
SS - Renteria
RF - Winn
C – Molina
CF – Rowand
1B – Aurilia
3B – Sandoval (replaced in the 6th–inning by Juan Uribe)
LF – Lewis

Is it fair to make fun of a hypothetical lineup of a manager who hasn’t been around for over six years? No. But sometimes you can appreciate Bochy a little more when you think about how other managers drove you nuts. Bochy watched Ishikawa and Rowand hit this spring and said, dang it, until the Rowand of 2007 shows up, there’s no reason he should be higher than seventh in the order. It sounds simple, but that’s an unusual decision for a Giants manager to make.

The first time Rich Aurilia starts at first against a right-handed pitcher, the love-in is over, but for a day, Bochy’s on my good side.

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I’d be surprised if the lineup was the same for tonight’s game.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 8, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll be surprised if it's not.

you score 10 runs, you don’t fuck with shit.

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on Apr 8, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. I just don’t think Bochy will.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 8, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

superstitious manager is superstitious

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on Apr 8, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s one game.

I’m still anticipating lots of Uribe and Aurilia in the starting lineup.

And, we shouldn’t praise Bochy by comparing him to Dusty. Dusty had the good ol’ veteran lust, too.

Still. I hope that what we saw yesterday from Bochy was a sign of things to come.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Apr 8, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, Bochy did nothing to anger me yesterday

This is Howry do it!

by CB30 on Apr 8, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

…he even had Timmy pull a Butcher Boy!!! Hum Baby!!!

by KrazyKrabMeat on Apr 8, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was absolutely gorgeous. Somewhere, Greg Maddux was smiling.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is nice about this

Is there aren’t any more gaping holes of suck in the lineup.

Last year, the 7-8-9 spot was pretty much a guaranteed 1-2-3 inning.

But now we’ve got a guy in Rowand batting 7th who is a real rbi threat, and Burriss batting 8th who has a real good chance of not making an out.

That’s a huge upgrade, in my opinion. I like this lineup, and I think it makes sense.

by FairweatherFan on Apr 8, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Me, too. I am fan.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOO 162-0 BABY!!!

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having Lewis-Molina-Pablo-Ishi-Rowand in the 3-7 spots doesn’t make me cringe. I can’t remember the last time I could say that about the heart of the Giants batting order.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Apr 8, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

I was actually excited to see ABs yesterday. Wtf? I forgot what that was like since Lamar left.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found myself thinking, “awesome, [insert name here] is up this inning. I can’t wait to see… Hold on, what is this feeling?”

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008

by Useful_Idiot on Apr 8, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not hungry or envy, it’s… Something else.
Maybe it’s love, Gob.
I know what an erection feels like, Michael!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Apr 8, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing that is scary..

is when Fred leads off an inning on a 1 pitch out, because then there is roughly a 50% chance the inning ends within 6 total pitches.

proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..

by Azmanz on Apr 8, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alternate caption

Rowand struggles to reach escape velocity to break away from Pablo and get back into the dugout.

I was pleasantly surprised that Boch didn’t send Lincecum out for the fourth. It seemed to run counter to what he did last year, which is a welcome change. Of course, this is only one game, but hopefully this means there will be less hair-pulling moves this year.

by Natto on Apr 8, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Two Tickets here!

Espcially the part about Tim. I like it so much I had to buy it twice.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Apr 8, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

you've been buying quite a few tickets lately.

I see that the economy is not affecting you.

heh.

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on Apr 8, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I mentioned nothing about paying.

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Apr 8, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Bochy got the memo. The team is making a big deal out of all the home-grown players that started yesterday. They’re serious about the “youth” and “why not?”. Sandoval, Ishi, and Burriss (along with Guzman and Torres) were the bright spots this spring.

(I know Torres is 31, but he plays younger and doesn’t have many miles.)

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Apr 8, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Funny
(I know Torres is 31, but she plays younger and doesn’t have many miles.)

I’ve heard this line used to describe several women…

by FairweatherFan on Apr 8, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve USED this line to describe many women… (but unfortunately I’ve used this line in reverse to describe many more)

by KrazyKrabMeat on Apr 8, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

31 really would be a young lady to me...

/cries

/looks at beer belly

/cries again…

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on Apr 8, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

31 is “just entering their prime” as far as women goes.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 8, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

31 and in their prime?

Mentally or physically? I’m 25 and the women i date look amazing, but are basket-cases. pPease tell me this will change as they "enter their prime’.

/chuckles at WTF

by jnormous on Apr 8, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Less psycho. More willing to….well, more willing.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 8, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mrs. Goofus is 40. She looks great and isn’t completely nuts, so I have nothing to complain about.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Apr 8, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I am 24, dating a 30 year old, and having a great time.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Apr 8, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

p'shaw

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Apr 8, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t even help you. Once I hit 40, I’m going full cougar mode.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 8, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That… Is awesome!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Apr 8, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're all waiting breastlessly.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Apr 8, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could possibly quibble with taking out Affeldt after only one inning yesterday, but it’s a six-of-one-half-dozen-of-the-other decision. The upside of it is that the entire bullpen is still available to pitch tonight with the possible exception of Martinez.

My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.

by Kitspool on Apr 8, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Martinez is our worst pitcher so that’s ok

I was THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Apr 8, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hi

My name is Alex Hinshaw, and I can’t throw strikes.

by FairweatherFan on Apr 8, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I was attempting (poorly) to make fun of the guy in the gameday thread who was angry at Bochy for putting Martinez in in long relief yesterday

I was THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Apr 8, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it helps, I got the reference, and while I didn’t actually laugh out loud I did smile a bit.

Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Apr 8, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps he just believes in tradition?

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Apr 8, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad to see fresno found a new closer…..wait

GIVE SCOTT McCLAIN A SHOT!!!!!

by HarshInFresno on Apr 8, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

My boy got the win, so phooey on his 9.00 ERA.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that, too.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

From what they were saying on the radio

Expect to see Affeldt/Howry/Wilson a lot in the 7-8-9 innings. When you have a 7th and an 8th inning guy they usually only stay in for 1 inning.

by paboperfecto on Apr 8, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure why, but I was expecting 7. Howry > 8. Affleldt > 9. Wilson.

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Apr 8, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you can flip Howry/Affeldt depending on the situation.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 8, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

But defined bullpen roles!

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

the bad news is

they’re all available to pitch tonight- and might. If each only pitches one inning, they can pitch every night

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

by natteringnabob on Apr 8, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is starting the year off on a good note, that’s for sure. Hopefully he won’t screw it up too quickly.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Apr 8, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

It would be nice to enjoy baseball for at least a few days.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Apr 8, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am amused at the train of thought that Bochy is getting the memo from the front office

This implies that the front office is the “good guys.” My how things have changed.

We are getting pretty good at blowing the Giant brass.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Apr 8, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

We are getting pretty good at blowing the Giant brass.

Tee hee.

by scout6 on Apr 8, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now this is a mouthpiece

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not enough tuba.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that the background is your typical portrait studio background.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Apr 8, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know about the rest of you but my girl can blow Giants Brass through 50 feet of copper pipe.

Im lying

GIVE SCOTT McCLAIN A SHOT!!!!!

by HarshInFresno on Apr 8, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

And people think it’s bad when I double dip…

Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Apr 8, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wooohooo

Hey guys over the internet, my girl is really hot, I will never back this up but she is amazing, and so is every other girl i sleep with. Im a pimp and even though I will never meet you I know my chick is hotter than all you nerd’s. I ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why does Sabean always look constipated?

by TexasRanger on Apr 8, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy made the right calls but...

He is still Bochy and I don’t think he will ever be the caliber of coach that can win or even get to a WS!! Its time we bring LaRussa back to the Bay!

by batterychucker45 on Apr 8, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Khalil Greene batting clean-up. That’s all I need to say about Tony LaRussa.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

when did LaRussa bat Green clean-up?

by batterychucker45 on Apr 8, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Monday.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」

by Zetsuboushita on Apr 8, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess Molina or Duncan would have been much better. St. Louis has all sorts of problems and the organization isn’t all that interested in developing new talent or competing in the free agent market. I’m pretty sure if LaRussa came back to the Bay we wouldn’t be finishing in the cellar like we have under Bochy!

by batterychucker45 on Apr 8, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have Ryan Ludwick and Rich Ankiel. Those two are both way better hitters than Greene, Molina or Duncan.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t really disagree with you on the fact that they have problems. Their pitching is a wreck, front to back (no, I don’t expect Chris Carpenter to stay healthy), but they have some very intriguing outfielders and no business batting Jeff Spicoli clean-up. That’s on LaRussa.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey I am not saying LaRussa is perfect with line-ups and how he manages the game and develops players but I think he has the ability to do better than Bochy. I like Bochy, I think he is very affable but I don’t think he is the coach for this team. I think even though we are enjoying yesterdays lack of managerial blunders we are going to end up pulling our hair out more and more as the season progresses!

by batterychucker45 on Apr 8, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure. I don’t really have a problem with that.

Joe Martinez!: Eagles fly together!!!!!
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 8, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

So does ludwick get those pitches in the 4th spot? Probably not. Regardless, the point is that Bochy is not nearly as good of a skipper as LaRussa plus the Giants wouldn’t have to special order those massive size 14 hats for Bochy anymore!!

by batterychucker45 on Apr 8, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are a moron

that is all

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Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have Ryan Ludwick on my fantasy team and for some reason LaRussa didn’t play him yesterday after he went 2-for-5 with a HR on Opening Day. And Ludwick hit 37 HR’s last year in 152 games.

It’s like LaRussa has been on a quest to ruin me since 198….(I can’t even type the year).

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 8, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

WORST IDEA EVER

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Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 8, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

i still think batting spicoli 4th is worse, though it is close.

That is awesome

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Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way

Is that real?

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!

I hope.

by Cookyman on Apr 8, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

God I hope not

Proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is Howry do it!

by CB30 on Apr 8, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You do realize that Bruce Bochy’s already gotten a team to the World Series, right?

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 8, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he/she meant a WinchelS. You know, the doughnut place. Those veterans shouldn’t be having so much sugar.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Apr 8, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh thats right when the pads got swept…now I remember, thanks!

by batterychucker45 on Apr 8, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LaRussa

LaRussa? LaRussa?!!!??!?!?!? LaRussa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Argh, where is the facepalm

Why does Sabean always look constipated?

by TexasRanger on Apr 8, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not only did he take the 1998 Padres to World Series, he did it with a team that featured Kevin Brown, Tony Gwynn, Ken Caminiti, Trevor Hoffman, Greg Vaughan and a whole lot of not much else*.

*with apologies to Wally Joyner

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Apr 8, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Archi Cianfrocco and Steve Finley do not appreciate the snub.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 8, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Sweeney called

He says you’re no longer invited to his birthday party.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Apr 8, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

JOEY HAMILTON RULZ.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 8, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That 98 Padres team was pretty good

They sure stomped the crap outta the Giants that year…

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Apr 8, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Saw It

I was at game 4 of that world series. Even tho the Yanks swept and I hate’m, it was one of the great experiences of my life. The next great experience will be when I go see the Giants WIN the world series. I’m expecting it to happen this year. (I am an eternal optimist.)

by Shoeless on Apr 8, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m happy!

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Apr 8, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey me too! Like really really happy. Ishikawa will prove everyone wrong, Rowand will bounce back, and the whole lineup will be solid. Until they fuck it up, I am really optimistic about the season.

Why does Sabean always look constipated?

by TexasRanger on Apr 8, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are in first place.

WE ARE IN FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAY IT WITH ME! WIRE TO WIRE FINISH

Why does Sabean always look constipated?

by TexasRanger on Apr 8, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

/chants hypnotically
We are in first place
We are in first place
We are in first place

Come on someone join me!

Why does Sabean always look constipated?

by TexasRanger on Apr 8, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

/ joins you

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Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to be in first place...

sing Bye Bye Baby!

Formerly Revolution1 || Status: Worried that Giants are going to sell my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages || Barry Zito: Throws Canyons Mildly Half-OK

by GiantBrass on Apr 8, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

<3

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 8, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

i hate the way that line doesn’t scan.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Apr 8, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yesterday reminded me that baseball can be fun. A lot of the time with this team, it’s abject failure. But for one day, it was really fun.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 8, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I liked what I saw yesterday. Even if Timmie lost Lazzie's leash for awhile.

Howry, Medders, and Wilson rocked… we got HR’s and basehits that I never expected to see. To top it all off Ghetti got his ass out of the dugout at least a million times. Before that I thought he was just a cardboard cut out that Bochy could play with. We are in first place…. I like the feeling.

"It hurts sooooooo... good!"

by Baybear on Apr 8, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

The one thing that bothered me about the lineup

Was batting Sandoval directly behind Molina. If that arrangement lasts all season, Molina’s complete lack of on-base skillz is the only thing between Pablo and an all-time GIDP record. It’s not much better with Molina behind Sandoval, for that matter. I think that they’ve got to be separated completely (at least, in an ideal world).

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Apr 8, 2009 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the line up will change so long as Rowand can keep hitting or you can put Ishikawa inbetween the two and that Pablo gets to see better pitches in the 6th spot.

by batterychucker45 on Apr 8, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least Bochy didn’t hit Fred Lewis behind Molina so Freddy could pass Bengie on the basepaths. Unless you let Molina have his own personal ghostrunner there’s no real convenient place to deal with the fact that the team’s best RBI man runs like he’s stuck in quicksand.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 8, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, there isn't

But it’s best not to compound it by batting another slow player who puts virtually every ball in play behind him. With Molina on first, any Sandoval-hit ball that doesn’t make it to the outfield is an automatic double play. Bengie is so slow that I’m not sure the hit and run would help (and, honestly, it’s a dumb play anyway).

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Apr 8, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we sure Sandoval doesn’t get down the line faster than Rowand or Ishikawa? He moves pretty quick for a husky boy.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 8, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not impossible, I suppose

But speed is less on an issue than his extreme propensity to put the ball in play. You have to be pretty quick down the line to regularly break up double plays on the back end, and even the most generous estimates of Sanoval’s foot speed don’t put him in that class.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Apr 8, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make good points, but what can be done? Like you said, if you have Sandoval hit third Molina’s behind him there’s just as much potential for DP’s. Hitting Sandoval sixth or lower doesn’t make much sense due to the fact he has hit over .300 everywhere, and Molina deserves to be the cleanup guy on this team.

Sandoval just needs to hit more homers. That’s all there is to it. Swing for the fences, Fat Ichiro!

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 8, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Molina's got one thing going for him

Molina’s an extreme fly-ball hitter, it’s why he’s managed to hit into alot fewer double plays than one would expect from his lack of speed and hacktastic approach. The last three seasons, Bengie’s only his 35-38% of his batted balls on the ground. Sandoval hit 48% of his batted balls on the ground in his minor league career, and 45% in the majors last season.

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by Bhaakon on Apr 8, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet we’ll see Sandoval hitting third sometimes depending on matchups. Other than that I don’t know what else Boch can do.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 8, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, Bengie hits into more double plays than pretty much anyone in the majors.

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by Cookyman on Apr 8, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

But not the most, as one would expect (probably a matter of opportunity, though).

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by Bhaakon on Apr 8, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Check out BP’s stat, you can look up double plays per DP opportunities, and total DP’s above average (NetDP). Fun fact: In 2004, A.J. was worth 14 DP’s above (or below, I guess) average, the worst in the majors.

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by Cookyman on Apr 9, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. I’d prefer to see Pablo hitting in the 4 spot with Molina in the 5 hole, but I do understand the lefty-righty-lefty benefit of ordering it Lewis, Molina, Sandoval, at least against right-handers.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 8, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

They can't be separated

The gravitational pull is too great to overcome.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Apr 8, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for linking to that lineup card. AGAIN. I just died a little more inside looking at that, so way to go!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Apr 8, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

ARIZONLOLOL

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by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I picked a good day to start Ian Stewart on my fantasy team.

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by Kitspool on Apr 8, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Troy tulo is OWNING

I’m trying to swing a trade with him and Halladay to get TIMMEH

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by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT Headline of the Day from MLB.com

“Yankees welcome Wang back to the rotation”

by scout6 on Apr 8, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Too bad we don’t play the Yankees this season. A Wang/Johnson pitching matchup would be something to see. They would have had to call up Bocock just for the day.

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by Kitspool on Apr 8, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

How come no one ever makes fun of Richard Harden?

Dick Harden? It doesn’t get much better than that one…

by ololo3 on Apr 8, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doh!

never even thought of that one. He gets around it by going by “rich”

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by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

On that note:

My three favorite quotes from Kruk/Kuip during the opening day broadcast:

1. Base hit into the outfield: “There’s definitely a strong possibility of having wet balls today.”

2. Hit by pitch: “He got drilled HARD.”

3. Affeldt throwing with good velocity: “He’s really humpin’ out there.”

by ololo3 on Apr 8, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Lincecum's pitching again?

Got to get right back up on that horse, I see.

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by Bhaakon on Apr 8, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course

He’s not made of porcelin you know!!!!!!!!!!!!

Baggs actual quote was “same line-up with a bigger unit”

by AngelWillSaveUs on Apr 8, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The yankees have a wang for their unit

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by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weather update

Looking out my SF window, it looks like some big rain clouds, lots of sunshine
(great light if youre a photographer), and pretty windy (out of the west—typical
late afternoon SF weather pattern).

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Apr 8, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Apropos of nothing, the Giants media guide says Brock Bond’s middle name is Lee. I laughed for about five minutes.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 8, 2009 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

BROCKSLEGEND

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by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

MMMM. Brock Lee.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
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by thehavenot on Apr 8, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because his initials are BLB or because it sounds like broccoli?

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by Cookyman on Apr 8, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he sounds like broccoli.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 8, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only noticed it after reading thehavenot’s comment.

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by Cookyman on Apr 8, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm such an idiot

I didn’t even get that part of it. I’m now laughing uncontrollably

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by bondslegend on Apr 8, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was unaware

that broccoli makes a sound

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by ThrillisGone22 on Apr 8, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you drop it from the appropriate height, it sounds like “Thump”

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by groug on Apr 8, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

It makes a sound after you eat it.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 8, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like nom?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 8, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It makes the nom sound while you eat it. The sounds it makes afterward is entirely different.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 8, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is our pregame thread? We are never gonna match the production of yesterday’s game without it.

by scout6 on Apr 8, 2009 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Props for the Dusty lineup

Burriss leading off, of course (think D-Lew and Calvin Murray and Neifi).
Although I think Aurilia would be batting second and still playing SS, just because that’s what Dusty ran in the glory years.

by ho-hum baby on Apr 8, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Who broke KNBR.com?

And does someone have a listen-live direct link?

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by ThrillisGone22 on Apr 8, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

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