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Giants vs. the Giants

The San Francisco Giants and a losing streak. Barry Zito out to stop the bleeding, presumably with some dental floss and some Scotch tape.

The San Jose Giants and a fantastic team. Their used tissues have more hope in them than the entire big club has.

My plan was to flip back and forth. I have some flipping skillz, honed from several years of Sunday football watching, and there was no reason they couldn't work in this situation. I watched the introductions for the Stockton/San Jose game, putting prospect faces to prospect names. Whoops, it was 7:08 p.m.. Those flipping skillz were rusty.

The Giants had a runner on third, Manny Burriss, and one out. Obviously, the Dodgers had the Giants right where they wanted them. Pablo Sandoval hit aground ball, and Burriss counted to five alligators before breaking for the plate. The inning ended without a runshortly after, and I flipped back to the San Jose game.

Not much going on. The Ports pitcher had a nice curve, and the A-ball ump had a funny definition of "checked swing." The little Giants went down in order. The commercials for the Giants/Dodgers game were probably over, I thought.

One to nothing. Someone in blue circling the bases. Then Zito, crafty lefty that he is, walked the next batter.

At that point, I stopped flipping back and forth regularly. When the San Jose Giants were at commercial, maybe I'd check in with the Giants/Dodgers. I didn't need to see Zito decompose again on live TV. I didn't need to see another quad-A guy look like Lefty Grove against an awful Giants lineup. I watched Buster Posey rope an opposite-field double, Angel Villalona hit a ball 400 feet, Madison Bumgarner get out of trouble with his easy delivery and beautiful fastball, and Edwin Quiarte look like a major league-ready reliever. Bumgarner gave up one less walk than he did all of last August, but he was able to wriggle out of a bases-loaded jam with some good pitching.

Zito was not able to wriggle out of any jams with good pitching. I didn't watch more than a couple of pitches. I guess he looked good at one point, getting the fastball up to 88 mph and striking hitters out. Whatever.

My only regret is that the San Jose Giants aren't on TV every night. Even though Comcast Hometown Network uses tin cans and string to get the sound from the ballpark to your cable box, it's better baseball. Last night I watched hitters who could get on base, and I watched pitchers who could throw strikes. The Giants game last night was a metaphor for the state of the team -- awful, awful, brief period of hope, and then awful. That brief period of hope for the season was between 6:46 p.m. on April 9th, 2009, and 7:10 p.m. on April 10th, 2009. I hope you enjoyed it. The Giants had just won their first series of the season, and they even hit a little bit. Then came Zito. Then went the offense.

I don't think the big Giants will lose 120 games this year -- they're just having their roughest stretch of the season at the most noticeable time. It reminds me of the start of the 2000 season in a way. I knew the Giants were one of the best teams in the league that year, even when they were losing every home game to start the season. The 2009 Giants aren't one of the best teams in the league, obviously, but I'm still going to stick with my original prediction of kinda okay, even if they'll lose more than they win. But I'd love to have the San Jose Giants as a nightly option when a San Francisco Giants game starts to get all San Francisco Giantsy.

Note: if the above contains too many words and whatnot, here's a visual representation of the battle in my heart last night. The one on the left represents Madison Bumgarner and the San Jose Giants. The one on the right represents Barry Zito and the San Francisco Giants. It was an epic battle for my attention and affection.

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I need to buy those unicorns

If only to give my collection of G1 Transformers some company.

Noonan. Nooooonan!

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

You can't beat Destructicorn.

Destructicorn will win.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Apr 17, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck I need to become more proficient at photoshop. I could see myself spending entire weekends making beautiful shit like this. My MS Paint skills aren’t bad, but that doesn’t really cut it.

by Norm Median on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

We didn't cover benches and failbeards in school!

I need this!

Formerly Revolution1 || Status: Worried that Giants are going to sell my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages || Barry Zito: Throws Canyons Mildly Half-OK

by GiantBrass on Apr 17, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

For IQs 9 and up , oh shit...

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Apr 17, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do we keep coming back to watch this team?

Because we’re masochists, that’s why.

McMasochists

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Crappy Giants baseball is still Giants baseball.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Apr 17, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

The truth has been spoken.

"One percent of ballplayers are leaders of men. The other ninety-nine percent are followers of women."-John McGraw, NY Giants Baseball Club

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Apr 17, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Still better than the baseball you get in January.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Apr 17, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burriss counted to five alligators before breaking for the plate

This made me lol.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 17, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m a one-one-thousand man, myself.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mississippi is better

otherwise people will cheat and count “gators” instead of alligators.

Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl. Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis

by j14 on Apr 17, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know how many sacks I got in front yard football by counting gators instead of alligators? I was like Reggie White!

This bread's got nuts in it!

by NuschlerFace on Apr 17, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my desperation for seeing a game that I at least won’t feel like shooting myself or anyone else in the face afterwards I going to see the USF Dons play Santa Clara tomorrow :/

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Apr 17, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

i go see baseboll gaim damarrow

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Apr 17, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because I hate myself

I am going to the game tonight. I’m just hoping for a game this isn’t completely full of fail.

Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl. Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis

by j14 on Apr 17, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please slap Jonathan Sanchez when he inevitably changes personality and stops striking out mofos. You have time to grab a snack first. The personality change won’t happen until the 4th inning or so.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 17, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to the game tonight, too! I hope Sanchez can be more consistent this time.

by sfgiantsgirl on Apr 17, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

consistently metro-sexual’d eyebrows

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Apr 17, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Delicately manicured is how ta ladeez prefer it, yo.



Derin McMains had five fingers, but he only used three.

by oooreebay on Apr 17, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hes consistently inconsistent. What more do you want?

by scout6 on Apr 17, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the San Jose Giants could beat the Giants Giants?

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Last year in spring training, the Giants lost to the Grizzlies, and I’m pretty sure this year’s SJ Giants are better than last years Grizzlies.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Must be nice to have a FO that's willing to explain things.

Paul DePodesta RE: Future HOF Travis Denker

Question 3 from WebSoulSurfer: Why would you designate Travis Denker for assignment? Weren’t there other, better candidates than a 23-year old infielder with hitting skills?

This is a great question, because there isn’t a science behind a lot of roster moves. In general we’ll have a debate among a group of our Major League scouts as well as front office personnel to decide on the move when we have to make an irrevocable decision like this one.

We agree with WebSoulSurfer that Travis is a very good prospect. We were happy to claim him on waivers from the Giants during the winter, and we’re disappointed to lose him. I expect that he’ll be a good big leaguer either as a 2B/3B bat or even as an everyday player. In this particular case, though, Travis had a couple of things working against him: 1) the most value he can bring would be at 2B and both Matt Antonelli and Eric Sogard are excellent prospects in their own right playing that position in AAA and AA respectively, and 2) as stated in both previous answers, our pitching is unsettled. Basically, we’ve wanted to keep as much pitching depth as possible until we have a better sense for the look and shape of our ML pitching staff (remember, too, that this decision had to be made a week ago after just four games).

I mention all of that, but as the group discusses the merits of each player under considerition, the decision often comes down to one thing: which player does the group believe has the best chance of making it through waivers? In this case, the group determined it was Travis, and unfortunately we lost him.

by chilibean_3 on Apr 17, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I imagine that if Brian Sabean had a blog, it would look like a 1994 Geocities web page complete with midis and a UNDER CONSTRUCTION animated gif.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it would auto-install Comet Cursor on your computer.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

There should really be a Photoshop mockup of this. But I’ve strained my meagre photoshop skills to far already in the last few days.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can use the BBWAA website as a guide.

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 17, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Apr 17, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

GIS result for 'Brian Sabean's geocities web page'

:(

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to be a big Sabean supporter. What killed him for me wasn’t the Russ Ortiz trade or the Michael Tucker signing or even the Pierzynski trade – it was that quote about why he didn’t want to sign Guerrero. That may have been the wrongest thing ever said by anybody in the history of forever.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

(+1 really doesn’t say it all, though)

by positiveuphemism on Apr 17, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

What exactly did he say?

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 17, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

From an sfgiants.com chat
shaundarbie: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?

Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Jim] Brower, [Scott] Eyre, [Matt] Herges, [Dustin] Hermanson, [Brett] Tomko, [A.J.] Pierzynski, Feliz, [J.T.] Snow, [Jeffrey] Hammonds, [Dustan] Mohr and Tucker — obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s worth pointing out that Mohr and Feliz were making the league minimum back then, and I think Hermanson had a minor league contract. Clearly they would’ve been out of the team’s price range!

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

And notice how he STARTS with JIM BROWER. That’s the first guy to come to mind for why he wouldn’t even consider signing VLADIMIR GUERRERO.

HELP I’M GETTING ANGRY ALL OVER AGAIN ARGH.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

RAGE

thanks for that BTW. You just pissed me off a lot.

That is fucking learning disabled

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 17, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit

is there a single name on that list that is even good?

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 17, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

J.T. Snow as a Good Giant (but hardly irreplaceable) and Dustan Mohr had a pretty decent season.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

but srsly

you can’t sign VLAD GUERRERO because then you couldn’t have SCOTT FUCKING EYRE?

Jesus Christ, I wonder why the team is a sack of shit?

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 17, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

ZOMG I FIGURED IT OUT

Sabes is actually correct here.

The key is the mystical 7th name on his list of guys signed instead of Guererro! Pedro Feliz! We are all Pedro Feliz! Pedro Feliz is all baseball players…. so if we had signed Vlad, we could not have signed ALL PLAYERS.

Including Vlad! So the universe would collapse on itself in a parodox swirely thing!

Whew. Thanks Brian! ’ Fuck work, lets Drink!"

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Apr 17, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

HES RIGHT YOU KNOW WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

Guerrero $11M

Brower $0.7M
Eyre $1M
Herges $1.1M
Hermanson $0.8M
Tomko $1.2M
Pierzynski $3.5M
Feliz $0.9M
Snow $1.5M
Hammonds $1M
Mohr $.3M
Tucker $1.5M
TOTAL $13.5M

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"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.

by WalrusMan on Apr 17, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

the worst thing about it is that if he couldn’t afford AJ Pierzynski, we’d still have Joe Nathan and Francisco Liriano along with Vlad. Anyone care to go back to that Brian Sabean thread and change their positive comments?

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Apr 17, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t around here back then, but there are archived comments of me freaking out about that trade elsewhere on the net. Hooray for being right (sometimes).

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he means the thread where many people tried to rip me a new anus

Why does Sabean always look constipated?

by TexasRanger on Apr 17, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

I’m too lazy to go look but there were several AAAA guys languishing in Fresno then that could’ve sucked as much as these guys.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

by natteringnabob on Apr 17, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

EVEN WORSE

If we signed Guerrero, then we wouldn’t have been able to sign Tucker, and then we would’ve been forced to make a first-round draft pick in 2004!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Apr 17, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

We would have lost it for Vlad though (a much more worthy sacrifice imo)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Apr 18, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would have a sweet font type where the letters would be on fire. And the guestbook would have all kinds of people leaving comments.

HEY BRIAN NICE SITE SEE YOU AT THE OFFICE
-NUKE

by chilibean_3 on Apr 17, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And liberal use of the BLINK tag.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the text is in Comic Sans.

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis

by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny coincidence — there’s an article in today’s Wall Street Journal about Vincent Connare, the guy who designed Comic Sans. He says he sympathizes with the growing movement to ban the typeface. Here’s a link for you typography followers but you have to have a paid subscription to access WSJ’s content.

by non sequitur on Apr 17, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was able to see it just by clicking the link.

by Natto on Apr 17, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, good. But, THEN WHAT AM I PAYING FOR???

by non sequitur on Apr 17, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

BEST VIEWED IN IE 4

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Apr 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

CLIFF LEE’S BACK BABY! w00t

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger

by bondslegend on Apr 17, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

This made me laugh from yahoo!‘s power rankings (we’re at 29):

Giants play series at AT&T Park, Petco Park and Dodger Stadium, which explains only five home runs hit. Statisticians still researching remarkable 6.01 ERA, however.

by paboperfecto on Apr 17, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Lol – smart quote FAIL.

by paboperfecto on Apr 17, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clayton Kershaw strikes out 13 Giants, guesses that’s about nine in big league currency.

by scout6 on Apr 17, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure

Lincecum would strike out 30 Giants in a game if he got to face them.

In 7 innings.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Apr 17, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's posts like this that first made me a fan of this blog

I could really do without all the mathy stuff, the rosterbation, posts created by computers, and repetitive whining.

Great post. More of this please.

by Sigualicious on Apr 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

There are no computers on the Internet.

There ARE sites without all the “mathy stuff, the rosterbation, posts created by computers, and repetitive whining.” This is not one of them.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Apr 17, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont worry... Barry tweets...

BarryZito Really nice day in the bay, clear and warm, good day to start a winning streak.

about 1 hour ago from mobile web

Should say
 Really nice day in the bay, clear and warm, I’m not pitching tonite, good day to start a winning streak.

by Squez on Apr 17, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

BrianWilson38I grew up watching hockey so perhaps a brawl would get things going tonight. Lets not forget I’m a closer not a negotiator.

by Natto on Apr 17, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

With every tweet I hate Zito and dislike Wilson more and more.

by chilibean_3 on Apr 17, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually like Wilson’s tweets. Zito’s just pretentious.

by Natto on Apr 17, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wish bochy had a twitter account

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Apr 17, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

guy in room saying name is sheerholz and he’s on team. wtf?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Apr 17, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep having to tell media there’s no platoon. It’s not the army FFS!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Apr 17, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he understands computers.

by Natto on Apr 17, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

@BigHeadBochy|| Durr durr durr double switch durr

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Apr 17, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuck should Zito say

He is getting paid millions and bangs hot chicks nightly. I’d be pissed if he was ever unhappy, because, lets face it, he had to have given up on pitching a long time ago.

by AXmrdrir on Apr 17, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

lets face it, i gave up on pitching a long time ago.

about 1 hour ago from mobile web

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Apr 17, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh?

I’ve got no problem with him being happy, but he could write like a normal person.

by Natto on Apr 17, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’re definitely a couple of tweets, to be sure

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Apr 17, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d prefer a unicorn disclaimer next time

I think I pulled my swagger muscle...

by BawLa on Apr 17, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

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