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So I was curious to see how Zito was doing

I have to be honest, I am an A's fan and I have taken pleasure out of seeing Zito struggle with the Giants because I was angry he left the A's.  The numbers do not show it but Zito stuff looks nearly as good as it did his CY young year, his velocity is not all the way back but it is night and day from last season.  In about 2 starts I have a feeling Zito will start throwing up quality starts regularly

 

 

 

 

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by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 9:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

IAWTC

Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl. Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis

by j14 on Apr 17, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad though

Thanks for trying to cheer us up, Athletic.

"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
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by achiappanza on Apr 18, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The road to hell , etc.

In his own unthinking way he really was trying to be he’pful.
But we showed him!

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Apr 18, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So do you want him back? I’m sure we can arrange something.

by MonkeyChow on Apr 17, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling Zito will start throwing up quality starts regularly.

Oh, we can tell you all about throwing up during Zito’s starts.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on Apr 17, 2009 9:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is your hobby poking hornets nests with sticks?

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Apr 17, 2009 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In all fairness...

His fastball velocity was consistently at about 87 or 88 last night. It was more like 83-85 last year.

2-6 - Losers of 5 in a row!

Adopted Giant: Daryl "Fat But Awesome" Maday - Scoreless 4 innings for first start in Norwich. Nice.

by rhys on Apr 17, 2009 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He could throw 103 for all I care, but if he can’t hit the broadside of a barn he’s useless to me.

Proud papa of Nathan John Schierholtz. Choo Choo...the train is a comin' baby, get off them tracks!!

by PacBellBoozer on Apr 17, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you guys should be encouraged

tust me I saw Zito pitch for 6 years, this is the best his stuff has looked since 2005 if his stuff stays like this he will have a decent season

by Athletic on Apr 17, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whew! I was worried about Zito for awhile but I’m glad you think he’s going to OK.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fears → Quelled.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rofl

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Apr 17, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would you like to put some money on that prediction?

Proud papa of Nathan John Schierholtz. Choo Choo...the train is a comin' baby, get off them tracks!!

by PacBellBoozer on Apr 17, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This post

Meh idea
bad delivery
terrible timing

2-6 - Losers of 5 in a row!

Adopted Giant: Daryl "Fat But Awesome" Maday - Scoreless 4 innings for first start in Norwich. Nice.

by rhys on Apr 17, 2009 9:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

Zito sucks
the Giants Defense sucks
the offense sucks the worst
The Giants have the 2 fattest players in the leauge
Is that better?

by Athletic on Apr 17, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

much more accurate for sure.

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on Apr 17, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Giants have the 2 fattest players in the leauge

Body Bias.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SANDOVAL IS QUICK FOR MAN OF HIS SIZE.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Read: He’s pretty fat, but not totally immobile…yet)

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last week, when Bengie was on 1B standing next to Prince Fielder, it looked as if David Spade were standing on 1B next to Chris Farley.

by Natto on Apr 17, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a vegan. Vegans can’t be fat, it’s against the rules.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, Prince isn’t a Giant…q

by tyrannoman on Apr 17, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From your moderately literate fingers to God's ears.

Forsan et heac olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Apr 17, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I love the lady on the far left.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adopted groomer for Mark Gardner's Mullet / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Apr 17, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone noticed how much Cain looks like John Noble?

I used to compare him to Bobby from King of the Hill, but this is my new one.

by kaliber on Apr 17, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s how Cain will look after this season if he doesn’t get any more run support.

by Natto on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord. Is that blue thing really a dress?

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that a still from “Omen 5: Damien at the Miss Tween Texas Pageant”? The tag line was “They’re growing up faster than ever….but One is left behind.”

I loved that movie.

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by leftymalo on Apr 17, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My daughters will never wear dresses like this

At least not if they want to leave the house.

And that boy is scary.

Noonan. Nooooonan!

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Apr 17, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was my exact thought.

I don’t even have daughters.

by kaliber on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s got eyes like the cupcake dog.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew I knew his face

by lincypoo i wuv u on Apr 17, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yet you let them wear pink Giants gear.

AUGH

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by WalrusMan on Apr 17, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You were angry when he left the A’s? What a coincidence! I was angry when he joined the Giants.

by chilibean_3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I have no idea to whom you are referring.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Apr 17, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why , the lady on the left - of course!

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Apr 18, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for checking in on him

He is still sucking the wrinkles out of shit.

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on Apr 17, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eat dirt, please.

Thanks!

by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 17, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My question

is why, last night, didnt the big-headed one take him out after two straight walks in the 6th. I get that the bullpen has been overworked, but in a Zito start, they should expect to be worked.

At the risk of being killed by you guys (never stopped me before), I’m gonna agree with you, Athletic. It looks like his “stuff” is a lot better right now than it has been in the past two years (at least this early). I think we can look at a semi-productive season out of him. What happens to this game if lewis doesn’t turn a simple base hit into an RBI triple?

by scottishgiants on Apr 17, 2009 10:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You mean if Lewis doesn’t turn a catchable line drive into a triple. If he had broken correctly the play wouldn’t have been half as difficult as he made it look.

by paboperfecto on Apr 17, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, yes

but i was trying to give him a little credit.

by scottishgiants on Apr 17, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry about the snark dude— Gaints fans are in a foul mood, and the regulars here are by and large pricks anyway. You’re totally right that his stuff looks pretty decent. His curveball was nasty last night. However, he’s still a fairly immature guy that gets rattled too easy and loses his control. (e.g.-last night after hitting Martin (or was it Kemp?) on the foot in the 6th)

Anyway, I too predict at least more quality starts out of him this season. Not enough to justify his ridiculous paycheck (thus the frosty reception from the McCoven) but enough that those of us not blinded by rage can recognize the improvement.

Kudos for attempting a conciliatory tone before the onslaught.

by thethrillisgone on Apr 17, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All the regulars should change their sigs to “By and large a prick.”

Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
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by jcb9 on Apr 17, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You go first…

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Apr 17, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what Goofus change it too.

by Natto on Apr 17, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ITYM

“Buy a Large Prick here”

HTH!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Apr 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the regulars here are by and large pricks

Who you callin’ bi?

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Apr 17, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

utter and complete fail

I’m a regular prick , bi the way.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Apr 17, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, this place is not for everybody, but seriously, what can you expect when you come to a giants blog and gloat about how happy you are that their pitcher sucks?

Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Apr 17, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know about you but I love it when some random jerkoff makes it a point to piss in my Cheerios.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 18, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got your large prick right here buddy.

Proud papa of Nathan John Schierholtz. Choo Choo...the train is a comin' baby, get off them tracks!!

by PacBellBoozer on Apr 17, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey you bastard, get it right. I’m no prick. I’m just an angry bitch.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 18, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched a lot of Zito's A's starts too

 I’m not seeing the resurgence yet. In that above-mentioned 2005 season, Zito made 35 starts—21 were “quality starts,” and only 4 times did he go 5 innings or fewer (hey, he’s already halfway there for 2009).

What’s been typical for Zito as a Giant (and this is true in 09 so far) is that the things he rarely used to do—either lasting only 5 innings, or getting knocked out early—are pretty much expected.

by ho-hum baby on Apr 17, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My favorite Zito game

8/30/2005 against the Angels with first place riding on the outcome. Zito went 9, Colon went 9.1, and the A’s won 2-1 in 11. It is unimaginable to think of Zito doing that today—matching zeros with another team’s ace in the biggest game of the season.

by ho-hum baby on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I cannot help but read Bartolo’s last name as anything but anatomical.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Apr 18, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t wait for the A’s move to Portland!!

by satyricrash on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Somebody make this man Commissioner!!!

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Apr 17, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember that Matt Morris guy everyone hated?

Guess what?

Morris in SF: 1.4 WHIP, 17-22, 102 BB, 190 SO (1.86 SO/BB). $10M/yr

Zito in SF: 1.478 WHIP, 21-32, 191 BB, 259 SO (1.36 SO/BB). $14.5M/yr.

Baseball Reference similarity score: 939: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/z/zitoba01.shtml

Matt Morris FTW111

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

by natteringnabob on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He just needs to grow a beard and throw right-handed and maybe we can trade him to Pittsburgh for salary relief.

by xanthan on Apr 17, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or Nyger Morgan!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Apr 18, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Nyjer

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Apr 18, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That almost got bad.

by Natto on Apr 18, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be fair, everyone hates Zito more.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Apr 17, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I compared Zito to a LH Morris right after the signing. Grant attacked me for it. I will never forgive him.

by mxmob33 on Apr 17, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TrolOl

Really?

Giant Dirtbags: Brian Anderson, Todd Jennings, Steve Hammond, John Bowker
Wronghanded Affeldt doing it right

by Giant among Angels on Apr 17, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seeing this topic now....

and despite the fact I may be tarred and feathered by the masses….the Green Fan has a point…..sure it may be on his head…..but a point nonetheles…….according to PitchFX, however accurate that is……Zito’s velocity was better on 4/16 then at any point last year…….lets see more data before we make any conclusions…..but this could be interesting……

by merkin on Apr 21, 2009 12:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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