Early Worries
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 16, 2009 11:35 AM PDT
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PrintAlmost three years ago to the day, I wrote up early season Worry Power Rankings. It's kind of funny to revisit them now -- half of the players on there had already passed "worry" on their way to "decay", and it's funny to think that there was a point when some of us were wondering if Barry Bonds was done. This year's WPR is filled with young-uns, award winners, veterans, and pandas. From "least worried about, but kind of worried" to "pretty danged worry about, even considering the small sample size of the season," here are the April Worry Power Rankings:
10. Buster Posey
If you haven't been paying attention, Posey is on fire. After seven games, he's hitting .462/.563/.885, with three homers and six walks in 26 at-bats. His inclusion on the Worry Power Rankings is twofold: 1. I'm worried that I won't get a chance to watch him in San Jose much longer, and 2. I'm worried that I'm just going to get more and more excited about Posey, and I'll start expecting too much. Remember those Craig Biggio comparisons? Those were cute. I don't want to get too crazy, so I'll just expect Johnny Bench with more offense and defense.
9. Tim Lincecum
This has been covered -- I'm not really worried -- but it's hard to SHUT UP THAT LITTLE NAGGING VOICE IN MY HEAD THAT'S CONTINUALLY SCREAMING, "WHAT IF? WHAT IF? WHAT IF?" I was told that Big Pharma's working on something for that. Hopefully the FDA will push it through before his next start.
8. Jonathan Sanchez
He's only had one start, and the first four innings were awesome, but I'm worried he'll be a career-long tease. Two innings of dominance, three innings without any control. Three dominant starts, two starts where he's knocked out before the third inning. Repeat for four years. See, Oliver Perez. It would probably be a little bit of a player development victory if Sanchez turns out as well as Perez, and that worries me too. I want more, dang it.
7. Emmanuel Burriss
I can't be too worried, as I didn't think he'd hit a lick. But I'm a little worried that the Giants aren't going to realize he needs more development time until, like, July.
6. Nate Schierholtz
These kinds of situations never end well. People are scouring the woods behind his house, printing up flyers, and trying to get information from anyone that's had contact with Schierholtz over the past two months, but I'm starting to lose hope. We might never see him again.
5. Barry Zito
He looked better in his first start. It worries me that this constitutes "better" because we're going to be watching this guy for a looooooong time.
4. Randy Johnson
Sometimes old dudes just lose it. Johnson's showed flashes of the high-strikeout, hard-to-hit pitcher we're all hoping will show up, but he isn't going to pitch until he's 60. At some point, he'll devolve into a hittable shell of his former self. I don't think we're seeing that right now...but I can't help but worry.
3. Edgar Renteria
When scouts guffawed and panned this signing, I thought it was overreaction. But I haven't seen Renteria do anything that's impressive. He hasn't had a single swing that's made me say, oooh, he just missed it or, ooooh, he'll catch up to that fastball eventually. Over the first week, he's been the most unremarkable player I've ever seen. He's not on a long-term deal, so it isn't the biggest concern facing the organization, but I'm worried that 600 at-bats of this will damage my psyche.
2. Travis Ishikawa
Last year at this time, Ishikawa was a prospect afterthought. He had a little promise back in the day, but he was as relevant as Tony Torcato. Now he's a starting first baseman, and he's struggling. A week's worth of at-bats are a pretty lame barometer, but I can't help but worry that last year's evaluation was more realistic.
1. Pablo Sandoval
This isn't a long-term worry. But everyone had the same concern with Sandoval: What happens when teams don't throw him strikes at all? The answer's been ugly so far. Now he'll probably go throw a Mike Benjamin-like hit streak to make me look stupid, and Sandoval will always probably be a streaky hitter just because batting average dependent players usually are. Still, it's just as likely that he'll have to work through this in Fresno. He's one of the reasons for watching the team, but I'm worried that 200 at-bats of .210 magic will lead to 400 at-bats for Juan Uribe.
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have scored 30 and allowed 46 runs. Not Bochy’s fault.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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It is Bochy’s fault that he’s a half-witted man-child with no idea how to construct a lineup or use his bench or bullpen, though.
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by daveinexile on Apr 16, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And, you know, I could overlook Dusty Baker’s flaws because the Giants had so much success during most of his tenure despite whatever mistakes he may have made. I could overlook Felipe’s flaws because he was a Good Giant and I had a ton of residual respect for him. I don’t have that problem with Bochy, so I’m happy to say he’s an idiot an is wholly without redeeming features as a manager.
I fear the Giants’ track record of never firing managers, though.
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Further down this line of thought:
It occurs to me that Bochy combines the worst aspects of Dusty Baker – poor in-game strategy and veteran man-love – with the worst aspects of Felipe – bizarre bullpen management and a general aura of not caring – into one boulder skulled package. Ugh.
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This. And while Baker did spend most of his career with the Dodgers, Bochy is the only one of the three to never actually play for the Giants, making him not even one of the family.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I don’t think Roger Craig did anything with the Giants before he was manager, but he team turned around so quickly during his tenure that I doubt anyone cared.
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adding Will Clark and other good players certainly helped.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 16, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I fully believe
That the Giants, with their current roster, had last night’s game won. Bochy lost the game with his (mis)managing.
Sure the entire season of FAIL so far may not be his fault, but last night’s wound is fresh.
by paboperfecto on Apr 16, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Leaving in affeldt and especially howry for multiple innings was a mistake, especially with howry getting hit a little the inning before
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
i think
leaving affeldt in was fine, but it was a mistake once he’d committed to him to pull him after 1 batter.
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This.
I was okay with Affeldt staying in. I thought it was ridiculous that he got yanked after the first hit in that inning, though. Give the guy a chance to redeem himself, especially with another lefty coming up before the inning is over anyway.
Exactly
Disinterest is always more frightening than love or hatred.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Me too.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Lose interest in what now?
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by EliminateMe on Apr 16, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not worried about losing interest. I know that I am going to watch this team win or lose until the last game is played. However, I do feel sorry for Future Me having to sit through a shit load of boring and/or heartbreaking games.
I’m in for the long-haul, always have been, always will be, but I’m about 99% certain I’m going to skip the SF Giants and watch the SJ Giants tonight.
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That sounds like a fantastic idea. I might do that, too (by radio, of course).
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'm not afraid of losing interest in the team, just the games.
I find playing backseat GM immensely fun, and that certainly won’t end. In fact, that part may be MORE fun with a bad team, since there’s more to b1tch…er… cogently argue about.
The real threat is that it’s no fun to watch a game, let alone shell out $20-40 for the priviledge, when I’m constantly thinking “how are they going to screw it up this time?”
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Just have to shift your expectations. Sure, the game may be a blow out with Giants sucking all over the field, but at least that gives the broadcasters plenty of time to talk about their time in the big leagues, which current players look like old timers, etc., etc. There’s some comedy gold in them thar loser hills.
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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Wronghanded Affeldt doing it right
by Giant among Angels on Apr 16, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m more afraid that some of the players will lose interest.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 16, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
There's always San Jose..
Until everyone is promoted. Maybe they will be in Fresno by August and we can make the drive.
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On a positive note, the good thing about being a Giant fan is that I don’t need a fake ID. I just tell people I’m a die hard Giant fan, and they give me whatever I need.
Renteria
To me Renteria has always been a player whose stats didn’t match what I was seeing on the field. He’s always seemed kinda slow, unathletic, and his swing has always seemed slow as well. So even when he was putting up great lines in the past, he wasn’t a player I got excited about. In some sort of twisted logic, my past impression of him has me less worried about his slow start. I don’t think he’ll ever look good swinging the bat or running the bases but I do think he’s capable of putting up a decent line this year.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
He doesn't seem to enjoy playing baseball this year.
Seriously, look at his face. It is the definition of “relentlessly stoic.”
But,
BEST SHAPE OF CAREER1
Giant Dirtbags: Brian Anderson, Todd Jennings, Steve Hammond, John Bowker
Wronghanded Affeldt doing it right
by Giant among Angels on Apr 16, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy is ruining baseball for me.
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Bochy hate is something that can unite people of all ideologies.
Also, I’d like to mention Tanu Tuva again, just because it makes me happy to think that there’ll be a search result for it on MCC.
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Tannu Tuva, rather. Spelling fail.
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No Worries - Ishikawa edition
Giants players with more than 10 ABs with better AVG/SLG than Travis: Rowand Lewis Winn Molina
Ishi isn’t/wasn’t going to be a guy that hits .300. We’d like to see him get some walks, but aside from that nasty stretch (the majority of the season thus far, granted), I’ve thought he’s looked pretty good.
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Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
Agreed. I’d move Ishi down a few notches and move Tim up to near the top of this list. He’ll probably get it on track, but the chance that 227 innings in 08 wore down his arm is pretty scary.
by thethrillisgone on Apr 16, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Game 1 was nice
A triple and three RBIs makes me feel good, but I have to ask: What have you done for me lately? That’s always the defining question for every athlete. There are no free passes.
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my biggest fear
as a semi-newcomer to giants fandom, is the idea that i might never see a competitive giants team. I missed the strike shortened 02 season, and most of the bonds era, so basically all i have is timmy and hope for the future…granted that hope is bright, but when we come into a season like this, with what seems like legitimate hope, and then follow up with total self-destruction, its like that light gets further away.
All i really want is that we somehow get over the hump and put ourselves in a position where there’s hope for THIS season, where each game i feel like we have a chance, that’s when baseball (and sports in general) is really fun, and the idea that i might have to wait 3 years, or 5 years, for that, is just, well, lame.
Outside of that, it’s still early, I still think these guys are going to turn it around (again, probably the newcomer to giants-fandomness — I haven’t had my heart completely ripped out of me by this team on a consistent basis yet), and I can’t do anything but believe that this team has, or will have, what it takes to win games.
by scottishgiants on Apr 16, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions
I'd consider yourself blessed for missing the '02 season
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to say, even with how it turned out, that was a great season. One of my favorite Giants teams.
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good point
i just remember thinking at the beginning of the playoffs, wondering how the hell they could beat the Braves and then the Cards. the joy and surprise that ensued was great.
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That season
had me listening to games in my car nightly (Pre computer , and that was the only radio I owned that picked up KNBR).
I remember how harrowing the race to the wild card was , and how the Giants were playing something like .750 ball near the end. How VERY clutch Aurilia was , and that leftfielder…what was his name again? He was ok , I guess.
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Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Apr 19, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
nah
I’ll take the heartbreak if it means hope beforehand. Hope is everything in sports, having the chance to go somewhere means so much (actually getting there is pretty f-ing awesome too though). Not to go back to soccer, which I do so often, but my team (Glasgow Rangers) got to the UEFA Cup final last year (second biggest competition in Europe), to the total shock of most of Scotland. I flew over there for the final and it was one of the greatest sporting experiences of my life. We lost the game, I was heartbroken, but it didn’t make me want to forget the experience. It was honestly something I’ll tell my grandkids about (especially since it will probably never happen again).
It’s the hope, the belief that you can win that really matters as a fan, and I’m in constant fear of losing that belief as a giants fan (I’m even worse off as a T-wolves fan).
by scottishgiants on Apr 16, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Biggest fear of all
MadBum= Shawn Estes
Buster= Brandon Inge
AnVil= Wily Mo Pena
This bread's got nuts in it!
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by EliminateMe on Apr 16, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Inge? Inge?! Oh hell to the no.
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we just bring up the current starting lineup for the SJ Giants?
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by SoFa King Mike on Apr 16, 2009 12:13 PM PDT reply actions
I initially read the first line as Worry Power Rangers.
Judgment Day is coming
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your better off that way.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Apr 16, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes, I worry that Tim Lincecum this year is Shawn Estes in 1998. But I’m pretty sure that’s not the case. But it’s an occasional irrational fear.
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What’s up with Shawn Estes getting name-dropped twice in one thread?
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t speak for the other guy, but I name-drop him a lot. He was one of my favorite Giants in his early days and the later course of his career depresses me to this day.
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I dropped his name beacause I needed a lefty who flashed brilliance and subsequently sucked. Plus he kissed my girlfriend in High School so I still want to punch him.
This bread's got nuts in it!
by NuschlerFace on Apr 16, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Both excellent reasons to name-drop.
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
On #8 ( Dirty) I’m not too worried. WE will not know tell August if he has a legit chance at remaining a starter. What I’ve seen would be plenty nasty enough to be a corner stone in the ‘Pen.
On #7 if he sits more than 1-2 games a week he becomes my #1 worry. He has to play often and a lot. If the Club will not do it in SF then get him to Fresno.
On #3 even with Rentawreck looking like cross between Feliz and the ’02 version of Shawn Dunston it still is a lot better the 1k innings from Ochoa would have been.
On #2 let him play and hit Vs. lefties. Then let us look at this come memorial day.
My Number 1 FeAr is The Big Head. I am painfully aware it has been something like 25 years since the last time the Giant replaced a manger mid season. You can play not to lose when you have better talent or big advantage in a given game. When you don’t have better talent you have to take risks. Wilson not coming in tell the bases were juiced the 9th is a prime example. The Not to Lose book says hold the closer tell you have lead on the road. The Talent Gap should make it obvious if you don’t get those 3 out there is not chance at having a lead.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
I’m worried Brian Wilson won’t enter the game in a save situation until mid-June.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
my fantasy team has this same fear.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 16, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
as does mine
although i subscribe to Matthew Berry’s script of never paying for closers, so I nabbed him late in the draft and decided just to punt saves this year. Working so far.
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
what I mean is
the fact that he can’t even crack the top ten is worrying.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
And I agree that the biggest worry is Sandoval. Man, I hope he doesn’t turn out to be a mirage.
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This
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
3 of my fantasy teams share this fear.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 16, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
i only have one
but mine does too.
Fletcher’s blog has a piece about him (he really dislikes Pablo and Dirty — secretly racist?)
by scottishgiants on Apr 16, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
My biggest fear
was a start just like this one. Lincecum, Renteria and Pablo have all looked pretty terrible so far. This combined with the bullpen’s struggles, Bochy refusing to play Nate and actually giving Velez playing time have me pretty concerned. I’m not at panic mode yet, but the blood pressure is creeping higher and the voices in my head are getting a little louder these days.
Plus the Giants have yet to win this season without my presence, or lose in it, and I simply cannot afford to go to every game. I will be there on Friday though, so we should get at least one win this week.
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl. Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis
I’m pretty worried about Sandoval. The fact that he’s slumping right out of the gate makes me wonder if he’s going to be able to get himself going again and that’s scary.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
He was pretty okay in the first series against Milwaukee as I recall. I wonder if hitting in Petco threw him out of whack.
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Honest question – why would hitting at Petco get him out of whack? He’s not a home run hitter who was robbed by the park in consecutive at-bats, so why would that part specifically bother him?
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
*park
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Beause I would like for there to be a simple answer that won’t have long-term consequences, that’s why.
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Gotcha – speculate on then!
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Leftover butt pee?
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I freeze my butt pee, so that can’t be it. It’s driving me mad. All I have in my fridge is some beer and condiments. I’ve totally cleaned the thing out. Yet, this farty smell remains.
WHY GOD
Maybe you should unplug it and let it air out for a while? I dunno. The problem I always have with my fridge is that the crisper drawer on the bottom is breaking, and sometimes is at a bit of a slant, so stuff on top of it will sometimes slide right out when you open the fridge. My knowledge of how to fix that isn’t really applicable to mystery stank.
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check under the crisper drawers
seriously I cleaned mine out the other day, pretty nasty.
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl. Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis
If the Giants season is one huge fail, at least Big Head and Sabean are on the last year of their contracts. With Magowan I wouldn’t be suprised if he gave Sabean an extension because his great drafts the past couple of years or something stupid like that. I don’t know much about Neukom, but hopefully Sabean doesn’t have blackmail material on him as it seems he had on Magowan.
My biggest worry is Sandoval. All you have to do is throw something that bounces a foot in front of the plate or at his eyes on 2 strike counts and he is going to strikeout. He was supposed to be an awful big part of the offense this year. Lincecum is a little wild and it might take some time to correct, but I think he will. Not too worried about him.
by CrispinGloversBalls on Apr 16, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions
So, the Indians just opened up a 3-1 lead on the Yankees in the seventh inning. If they win, the Giants will have, at least for the moment, the second worst record in the game.
WHOO.
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Speaking of which
Is the draft in June or July? That’s something to look forward to, at least.
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Houston seems kinda ill-fated maybe they can boot their 3 run lead and earn themselves a 2-7 record.
I’d feel better if we end the day with the same record as the Red Sox.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Wow
The Yankees bullpen is showing the Giants how it’s done, meltdown wise.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
Nice to see the home opener of the new Great Temple of God’s Own Franchise turn into a giant knot of Massive Fail.
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I was on Gameday Audio, and there’s a “Highlights” tab that featured the Very First Pitch At Yankee Stadium. It was a ball.
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EVEN BETTER THAN A WALK OFF WALK!!!!!
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Maybe I shouldn’t joke about that after last night’s game, though.
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Also, I see Cody Ransom is hitting around .100. Better than A-Rod!
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I bet Yankee fans are TOTALLY panicking
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 16, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m worried that the Padres are going to do what the Giants have been trying to do for the past four years: Find a way to win with a shitty team.
Unpossible
They’re not just a shitty team, they’re a shitty team trying to trade one of their best players and they play in a park that – while not that bad – is basically thought of as the boogeyman by players when they hit a cold streak.
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by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 16, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Worries
Worried the SJ Giants will let keep Sabean keep his job. The front office has had very good drafts over the past two years, but when it comes to putting together a big league club the guy just can’t hack it.
Worried Bochy will abuse the young pitchers and overuse the old guys because he knows his job is on the line.
Worried my frustration with this team will boil over into uncontrollable rage. I’m curious as to what the minimum number walks a team has drawn in a full season because I like our chances to destroy that record.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Apr 16, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
Also worried Fransden continues his slow start in Fresno so they don’t consider him an upgrade to Burriss and keep everything as is.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Apr 16, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That thread sure does bring back memories.
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Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.
2006 Worry Rankings
Matt Morris has looked good more often than not, and Jamey Wright has been outstanding…
Yeah, this was what fans in 2006 were clinging to. Good times.
I’m worried that El Boulderskull seems to have the very same “staying power” as a teenager between the sheets. Seriously, he blew his load waaaaaaaaay too early last night and there was no reason to make the moves he did.
Why pull Pablo for a pinch runner when you aren’t going to put said runner in motion, or I dunno…maybe try to swipe a bag once in a while?!? We all know he’s much faster than a guy should be for his size…dude isn’t like B-Money on the basepaths!
What if we’d been able to push the thing into extra innings? Who’s going to step up to the dish then? It’s god-damn embarrassing that he’d rather let our effing bullpen hit for themselves because he’s already lost more than a few pinch hitters to a box of kleenex.
While watching last night a funny thought ran through my mind. Richie was coming up to the plate late in the game and I chuckled when thinking about how a guy that wasn’t given a contract by anyone else in the off-season, weasels his way into our camp, and is miraculously starting again at 1B barely one week into the season. Dude shouldn’t of even made the squad, now you’re putting him at the top of that depth chart?!? Give me an effing break!
Oh, and one more thing….PLAY MY ADOPTED SON YOU JACKASS!! I get that you seem to think that Velez is going to be the second-coming in the outfield, I get that Randy Winn is a nice guy, but Jesus Christ, he should be the first hitter off the bench every single time you put him on the pine.
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I get that you seem to think that Velez is going to be the second-coming in the outfield
Raptor Jesus Velez?
And your thoughts on Richie just made me want to make my pencil disappear, Joker-style.
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand the Joker reference because I hate the Batman / Superhero movie genre. But I’ll take that as a compliment. Thank you.
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by PacBellBoozer on Apr 16, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
ah
well, he puts the pencil through a guy’s skull. so yeah, it’s a compliment.
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
See? Boozer does come by every once in a while to rant.
Gotta come by more often dude.
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My rants will now appear on a bit of a more regular schedule.
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by PacBellBoozer on Apr 16, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m glad we at least lost 5-4. I expect 5-4 losses. Too much 11-1 will kill me, though.
I was ahead of curve in worrying about Pablito. Great.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
I'm worried
that Cain will win 15 games and our minds will literally be blown to smithereens.
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If Cain wins 15 games...
…I’ll buy a round of minds for everyone here.
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Pitching
Pitching was to be the Giants strong suit. While Cain has pitched well the starters have failed and the bullpen has been taxed.
I can see how this comment got people talking about politics.
Makes perfect sense!
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Of all the wilriv comments to start this discussion, too!
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My biggest worry is Joe Martinez. Obviously, not in a baseball sense.
However, I’m trying to figure how what happened to Joe may have affected the team’s play in the subsequent games, particularly in SD.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 16, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions
I'm most worried about Sandoval...
after watching him chase pitches up around his eyeballs, it seems like the league has adjusted to him, but that Pablito hasn’t caught up yet. I’m worried because a big part of me wonders if he can ever learn to take a pitch. If not, I don’t see him becoming a long term solution for the team.
I’m also a bit concerned about The Enchanter, but I still think he’ll figure it out. Sounds like his motion is messed up. That would account for the lack of control and the loss of a couple ticks on the gun. I think he’ll straighten that out though.
Sanchez is what he is. I’m not counting on him. If he pans out, all the better.
#s 7-2… I never really expected much out of them. I got my hopes up during the first 3 games of the season, but no more. This team is going to lose a ton of games. I’m aiming for 2011, and perhaps the best thing this team could do is to get a high draft pick for 2010 and grab a stud college bat who can contribute quickly. By 2011, Renteria and Johnson will be gone. Hopefully we can DFA Zito.
I love the Giants and I’m going to watch a ton of games this year. But I want a World Series, and I haven’t seen anything to show me that there is anything more than a few players on this team who will contribute to the next team to make a run in the playoffs. Link, Cain, Wilson, perhaps some other bullpen guys (Merkin), FLew… hopefully Pablito. Not much else though.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
I don't get it...
Sandoval really just looks like he’s in a slump.
The pitches he’s been popping up/flying out/grounding out to are all pitches he hit hard last year (and in ST).
And the pitches he’s been swinging and missing on have generally been in the strike zone.
All just a sign that he’s going through slumping times, not that anyone has “figured him out”.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Apr 16, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
i am hoping beyond hope that bochy is playing velez so much because this is his shot. if he doesn’t perform, he’s done and he’s going to die in the minors or be traded (hopefully the latter; maybe someone will fall for him). schierholtz is more of a proven player, so he doesn’t need to show bochy he can handle himself.
lincecum should be okay; you don’t have a cy young season and then forget how to pitch. he said he saw a flaw in his delivery that hes going to try to fix.
pablo and ishikawa shouldn’t be read into this much. pablo will be a good .300 hitter, and hopefully we’ll see gold glove defense and .275 with a high OBP out of ishi. burriss needs to run more; the guy is FAST (of course, in order to run he has to get on base).
i think sanchez has the potential to be incredible. first time i saw him pitch i really, really liked what i saw (with all my knowledge of how to pick good pitchers). he’s still young, once he’s had 4-5 seasons i think he’ll be at least a no. 2 starter.
i dont know what we’re going to do with this farm system. we’ve got lincecum and cain, two great starter, zito’s going to be around forever and no one’s taking that contract, and madbum and alderson are going to be ready in a few years, then pucetas is right behind them. we’re overstocked, which is great, but i can’t imagine how we’re going to be able to keep lincecum, cain, zito, bumgarner, alderson, and maybe sanchez and pucetas. 7-man rotation?
once the ‘09 giants get out of this funk, they’ll have a playoff shot; the d-backs are playing like shit and there’s no way the pads and rocks keep this up for very long. ’10 giants are going to be a force to reckon with.
Pucetas
does anyone really see him as more than a spot starter when a guy goes down with an injury?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Life is good!
The guys in San Jose look great. I’ve got a cup of coffee. Don’t stress too much about this team. 2011!
I’m perhaps most worried about the Dodgers… Billingsley and Kershaw look good.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Sanchez...
Did anyone ever think he could be better then Oliver Perez? I sure didn’t. If anything I’ve always had him pegged as Oliver Perez lite, since I have a hard time believing Sanchez will ever have a year like Perez had in 2004. If he can be Oliver Perez that would make me quite happy to be honest…
I think he can be better. During his outing in San Diego, it looked like he just got tired. I blame the WBC, of course, but also the Giants mishandling of his career over the previous years. Last year, he increased his innings over 2007 by a lot and got injured towards the end of the year. my biggest worry with Sanchez is another injury.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 16, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what drives me nuts? Pro-choice people and minorities. Now that we all agree on that, let’s get back to baseball.
I DIDN’T BRING IT UP AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
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good idea.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 16, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, you never want to talk about the Great Depression. Why are you even on this site?
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I talked about the Great Depression at length.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 16, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
At least David Eckstein still sucked then.
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CENSORSHIP
We should start a tea party
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the Bay Area, so maybe it should be a Chai Tea Soy Latte Party.
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(Yes, I’m aware of the tautology there)
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I'm sorry, did you say something?
I can’t hear anything over your angry yelling and screaming.
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
If you search for ‘tautology’ on MCC, you get one front-page article and five comments. I challenge any SBN blog to beat that.
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and the losing streak continues...
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Fair enough
On the other hand, we have you beaten on Warren G. Harding, William Faulkner, and Bananarama.
I’m pretty sure we have more Rush talk, too.
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And interestingly, considering your sig, Athletics Nation also has more than four times more Bee Gees mentions than MCC (well, until I post this comment).
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Free range soy beans
So it’s the free range soybeans that give off methane and destroy the ozone?
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
No, that’s my four month old daughter. She farts so much that they’ve nicknamed her “Exxon” at daycare.
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My only regret is that I can’t delete them again. No politics.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 16, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Comment starter: Your worries. Your fears. Your darkest emotions. Let it out.
We shouldn’t take him so literally next time I guess. :)
by paboperfecto on Apr 16, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
While you're deleting things
Please remove last night’s bottom of the eighth and bottom of the ninth inning from my memory banks.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
or the WHOLE trip to SoCal. Zito is the only thing between the Giants and a SD/LA sweep of the Giants.
i'm blaming you
for the vomit all over my laptop
by scottishgiants on Apr 16, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
My biggest worry this season was the Giants playing .500 ball through July prompting Sabean to pull off some asinine trade out of jcb9’s ass that hinders the team of 2010-12 and making the 09 team marginally better but not enough to make the playoffs. At this rate, I’m actually quite content.
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"Nothing important ever happened without me."
silver lining
if the team is doing poorly at the deadline, it could prompt a Bengie or Winn trade, which could possibly bring back something.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 16, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
what's there to worry about?
Bochy doesn’t seem worried. Neukom doesn’t seem worried. Sabean just doesn’t care. If they’re not worried, then it can’t be this bad…
On second thought, you know what worries me?
The Giants are on pace to go 40-122, and as we know, pace always holds true throughout the season.
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But on the plus side (Dodgers Player) is doing great for my fantasy team!!!!!
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- is still tops for me. I can handle Sanchez being up and down, the Unit being merely adequate as a back-of-the-rotation innings filler, Renteria playin’ a little old, but I just cannot handle watching Barry Zito suck most of the time he is out there. I mean, you know, it’s the fact that there isn’t any end in sight with the situation.
I’ll admit that Timmy’s start worries me too, because I really don’t want to see him be anything less than dominant.
Kind of surprised that Pablo and Ishi take the two top spots, but then I’m mainly a radio guy, so maybe I haven’t seen just how ugly it’s been. Still think they’ll both be fine (though i still don’t enjoy having Fat Ichiro at 3rd).
Finally, I guess I’m kind of worried that Scott Rowand is going to return to abysmal suckdom. Dude actually made me jump out of my chair and do a couple of fist bumps last night!
SB Nation auto-formatted your pound sign since it was at the beginning of the sentence.
Judgment Day is coming
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Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.
Same thing happened to me with a sentence starting with #3 last night. It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but there you go.
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I’m concerned Aurilia won’t get enough starts against right handers. I mean, what’s the deal with this platton baloney?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
or platoon, whatever sounds more intelligent to you.
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it should be Patron.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
but I like her like her!
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by UnleashTheGore on Apr 16, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Number two is a very real fear, except for me it goes a little further. His slow start has allowed Bochy to fall back in love with Aurilia again. See tonight’s lineup (thanks, Baggs):
RF Winn
2B Burriss
3B Sandoval
C Molina
LF Lewis
1B Aurilia
CF Rowand
SS Renteria
P Zito
Seriously – why is Aurilia getting so many starts? Get Ishi in there to work it out. If he can’t, then find a new solution at first (Richie ain’t it).
I’m still disgusted by Velez being on the roster. I hate Renteria. And I cannot effin’ believe that we don’t have a big bat in the line up. We have the most pathetic line up anywhere. No wonder the team has been struck out 24 times by the starters in the last two games. Nothing but weak sauce in the line up.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
Fuck bruce bochy
god damnit, the fact that RICH FUCKING AURILIA IS FUCKING STARTING……
I can’t even complete a sentence
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Thanks to roger
And now the Nationals are winning, so my new worry is that the Giants are a few days away from having the worst record in baseball.
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“What do you mean Stephen Strasburg is gone? We have the first pick!”
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 16, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you blame him? The Giants are making me sick to my stomach too.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 16, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Stomach flu is going around. I know several people here who have it. We’ve greatly expanded the usage of the word “butt pee” this week.
Dude
Don’t bring butt pee to Stockton. :(
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 16, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
SCREW LA BOCHY, SCREW LA BOCHY, SCREW LA BOCHY, SCREW LA BOCHY
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
I'm calling it...
Edgar Renteria 2009 = Jose Castillo 2008
by AmorVincitOmnia on Apr 16, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions
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