Quick Poll
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 14, 2009 5:51 PM PDT
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PrintI've figured out how to create sections on the sidebar of this site. It only took me several years. So take a look at the left sidebar, and vote in the poll. I'll follow the will of the people on this one, as I really don't have a preference. The section would contain three of Steve's most recent posts.
Also of note: The extra GameThreads are going to get their own section on the left too. We'll post links in the comments and main post of existing GameThreads for those who arrive late.
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Section Of Honor!
And change the name to The Awesomeness of Pie!
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 14, 2009 5:56 PM PDT reply actions
someone suggested “They Might Be Giants” as an alternative name.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Apr 14, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
IAWTC
Adopted groomer for Mark Gardner's Mullet / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Apr 14, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Steve’s choice of course, but that is an awesome alternative name.
"One percent of ballplayers are leaders of men. The other ninety-nine percent are followers of women."-John McGraw, NY Giants Baseball Club
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
/sings “MAAAAAAN IT’S SO LOUD IN HERE!”
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
If they don’t get their own section (which they should), I’m all for recommending them. WE may all know how to find them, but the “we” who post 20,000 comments a season are probably a pretty small minority of the people who visit the site. Lurkers and passersby may not be wise to the ways of Minor Lines.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis
I think a dedicated section on the left sidebar is a good compromise – other non minor lines rec’d fanposts won’t be crowded out, and those who like to see the minor lines grouped together will still get that. As jcb mentioned, the downside is the higher chance that casual readers will miss it. My feeling is that the new readers who would be interested in the minor lines probably aren’t as casual and would find it, through reading comments from others or just by scrolling around.
One thing the new setup would do, though, is put the Minor Lines on the Yahoo! Giants page. That might mitigate some of the damage done to the casual collective.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 14, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
it might also
create the impression that this site has something to do with baseball
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Apr 14, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m all for having the separate sections. I was visiting other blargs on SBN and the ones with sections are cleaner and more organized. I like it.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 14, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions
I say we move steve s to the front page and give Grant his own section on the left.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!
I hope.
Now that's just mean.
Advice for Grant: If you were thinking of polling “Who do you like better, Steve S or me?”….don’t.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
by EliminateMe on Apr 15, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I doubt Grant could beat giantsrainman or even xeifrank. He hardly ever contributes anything to this site’s discourse.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis
Is there some way to show when there’s a new comment in the box on the left? I don’t think it’s doing that right now.
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They do when you’re in the story, but not from the front page. That is kind of a drag.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 14, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure this can’t be too much of a quick fix for SBNation.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.
This is a concern I had (no top-level comment tally).
The comment activity often tells you how relevant a thread is, or more likely
how far off topic it’s become. One of those is important (I think).
As the thing that got me hooked on this near-opiate of a site, I just want to
ensure that the posts continue.
Respect.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
Heh, yea 100 posts and you have a very good baseball discussion. 500 posts and…well…
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.
109! Rush! Bea Arthur!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
Glad to see that it will end up on the left
and even more glad we won’t have 99% of recommended posts this season be things that are essentially old the day after they are posted.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 14, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions
Are these then posted on the main page?
Or to access these do we have to click on Minor Lines? I think the best solution to this is having them posted on the main page with the scores of the games up there, then below the break the full details. I’m sure he’ll get just as much traffic from us if they are in a different section, but then n00bs won’t know where to go for them probably.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.
The headline is posted on the main page, like it is now as a FanPost. I’m against more on the front page. That’s why I’m moving the overflow threads to the left, and it’s why I break up long-ass pieces like today’s MLB.tv post.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 14, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
So essentially, steve s will just have the option for his FanPosts to be in this section? Or will it actually be below your posts in the main page. I’m not quite sure how this would be set up.
If it’s how I’m understanding then it doesn’t seem much different than a regular FanPost.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.
I’ve seen the Rockies minor league updates (entitled Pebble Report) on the front page under its own section on Purple Row.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 14, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
TAKE UR BALL AND GO HOME THEN
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 14, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Their’s look just like regular main page stories to me. I’m confuzzled….
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.
If you check near the title on Purple Row, there’s a link that says “Pebble Report” next to the posted by and date/time. Clicking on it takes you to the section of Pebble Reports.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 14, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I love it. It’s clever as heck. Plus the gal writing the Pebble Report really knows what she’s talking about. I went around the Cal League affiliates on SBN and found only some of them doing regular minor league reports. GasLamp Ball (Padres) and Crawford Boxes (Astros) don’t do anything at all. Aside from Steve S here, the best ones I’ve seen were the aforementioned Pebble Report and the reports on True Blue LA. I know…it makes no sense that the Dodgers can do anything right. But I need the info for my jorb.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 14, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s no “Let’s ask Steve what he wants” option.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Apr 14, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions
Steve Phillips, former GM of the Mets and expert color commentator for Sunday Night Baseball
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I like how it looks now
with the previews over on the side. Pretty nice
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I'm lazy and didn't bother to read the 38 comments above mine, but....
Why not just make an entirely different section for the GameThreads?
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
Because there kind of is now.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen should be with the big team.
That’s what happens when you don’t read the other comments!
Judgment Day is coming
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The way we're starting this season
why not just put the Minor Lines front and center?
BTW: major props to Steve… great work!
My only concern
is how it affects the Mobile content. I’m on the road more than I’m at a computer so I have to check the site on my phone. The mobile site only runs main page and fanposts. I want to be able to see the minor lines and gameday threads so I will be greatly saddened if my McC coverage is limited by telecommunications… well probably not but whatever
I think they will be shown on the front page when first posted and later filed away after a certain period of time.
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To clarify, the three most recent minor lines would appear on the left sidebar. Kind of like a FanPost, but on the left. The first GameThread would always be on the main page, and links to any additional GameThreads would appear at the bottom of that post.
There will be a repository for the minor lines, too. Underneath the logo on the left-hand side, just under where you choose “wide” or “narrow”, there is a little box titled “sections”. You could then click on the minor lines link there to get the full list.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 15, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I observe the right to bitch & moan whatever decision you make.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
You might want to reserve the right instead.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
I think he just wants to watch the rest of us complain.
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He needs to observe it before he decides whether or not to reserve it.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry. Because he was awesome once, and, goddammit, he shall be awesome once again!
I hope.
Instead of just overflow game threads, why not put all game threads into that section? Then you can always find the current one in the sidebar whether it’s the first or whatever.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
I’d kind of like that, but I’m worried that casual readers or new readers would miss them, and they’re really the best way to attract people who actually fit in. If they can sift through a gamethread without thinking, “What in the hell?”, they’re good fits for the site.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 15, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Can anyone actually sift through a gamethread without thinking “What in the hell?”
I was thinking they could be in the section in addition to being on the front page, but maybe it doesn’t work that way.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
by EliminateMe on Apr 15, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually sit through a game thread and think “What in the Hell ?” But that is kind of the point isn’t it ? Sometimes the comments in the thread are more entertaining than the game.
"One percent of ballplayers are leaders of men. The other ninety-nine percent are followers of women."-John McGraw, NY Giants Baseball Club
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
Isn’t there a baseball game tonight or something?
by CrispinGloversBalls on Apr 15, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions
what?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
by bondslegend on Apr 15, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
We don’t like to discuss baseball here.
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Why would you come to a website that’s clearly devoted to locats, food, snobby indie music, and MS Paint and bring up BASEBALL of all things!?
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Adopted Giant: Fred "Ruthless Aggression" Lewis
whats a locat?
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Thanks to roger
they need you down at the teabag party
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
I can’t even fathom what that might be a reply to. I’m not re-reading any of the above posts to find out, either.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 15, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Funniest "serious" event name ever?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
Steve S. deserves his own section.
He does a great job is an understatement. Steve keeps us wayward fans up to date on the boys down on the farm. He keeps it simple and to the point that way even hibernating bears can understand it. Paws up for Steve.
Now let’s talk dessert….
"It hurts sooooooo... good!"
Grant, if you leave only the first of many Gameday Threads in the main section of the page, then even if there are links to new threads below the post, some folks might end up posting to the first thread instead of the most recent one. So, for example, someone might post to thread #1 in the 7th inning while most of us are over on thread #5.
Not sure what you can do about this if anything, but it might be an issue. Or might not.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
I think you’re right, but we’ll also post links in the comments section (as always.) So what will probably happen for a while is one person talking to themselves for two innings before realizing that the place is dead, and looking for new thread links.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 15, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
what will probably happen for a while is one person talking to themselves for two innings before realizing that the place is dead
Or, as we like to call him, “Goofus.”
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
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