Revised Depth Chart for the Giants
by Grant on Mar 6, 2009 2:08 PM PST
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Two changes to the big roster picture:
- Dave Roberts is gone
- During yesterday's game, Sabean hinted to Jon Miller that an 11-man pitching staff is a possibility.
There should probably be a 2a: Josh Phelps has had a whopping eight at-bats so far, so he's probably not being looked at as a serious contender for a roster spot. Here's a revised guess at the Opening Day roster:
Certain:
Molina
Ishikawa
Renteria
Sandoval
Winn
Rowand
Lewis
Schierholtz
Probable:
Aurilia
Velez
Uribe
Holm
Frandsen
Maybe:
Burriss
Andres "2nd-most-spring-at-bats-on-the-team" Torres
Bowker
Jesus Guzman
Probably not, even if he makes all kinds of sense for this team:
Josh Phelps
Brian Bocock
Brian Bocock
Is this about right, or am I missing something? Are Uribe and Aurilia fighing with each other for one spot? If Sabean was serious about the 11-man staff, who do you pluck from the "maybe" category? The only one who doesn't need more seasoning in the minors is Torres, and even though he had a pretty good season for a speedy CF in AAA, he's an unknown quantity. I hate those. They make it hard to make snap judgments.
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I’d go with Bowker. I’d like Burriss and Jesus to go to AAA.
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by NuschlerFace on Mar 6, 2009 2:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I don’t think there’s much of a need for Torres since Velez will most likely be on the team as a speedy OF. If I had to choose between Burriss and Guzman, I would probably choose Guzman. Burriss can definitely use some seasoning at SS for Fresno. Guzman can also run Dingerz.exe, whereas Burriss has yet to purchase that program from the software store.
by deuce deuce on Mar 6, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Burris’ hardware is not compatable with that software application.
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by Little Napoleon on Mar 6, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are always hardware uploads…
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by WalrusMan on Mar 7, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are always hardware upgrades…
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by WalrusMan on Mar 7, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The last general attempt at hardware upgrade caused much disturbance in the force…
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by Lyle on Mar 8, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that Aurillia is fighting with Uribe… It seems from what I’ve seen only Uribe is fighting Uribe
/boots another grounder
by dogdays on Mar 6, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
if they do fight, Aurillia should totally hit Uribe in the knees.
Uribe has weak knees.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 6, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on the Richie v. Uribe part
to me it seems that Uribe is fighting for a spot as the backup 3b/ss/sometimes 2b whereas Aurilia is fighting for a spot as the backup 1b/3b. In my mind, Richie would get a lot more at bats platooning with Ishikawa than he would with Pablo.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 6, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In my mind, Richie would get a lot more at bats platooning with Ishikawa than he would with Pablo. with Bochy as manager
by SFGuy on Mar 6, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Torres is making this team. So what position is Raptor Jesus going to play in Fresno?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 6, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
if baseball had overtime like hockey jesus would totally be a penalty shot guy off the bench
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by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 6, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
meant to put a comma between hockey and jesus, but the thought of “hockey jesus” is kinda fun too
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by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 6, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus kick-saves and a beauty.
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by S.F. Giangst on Mar 6, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The baseball one is really creepy.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 6, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’s just happy to see you.
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by bgunn on Mar 6, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Hates Defense!
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by S.F. Giangst on Mar 7, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus saves, Gretzky with the rebound he shoots HE SCORES!
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by GiantBrass on Mar 6, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Torres is interesting, a journeyman former top prospect for Detroit is now age 30. Was impressive in the games I saw in Arizona. Spraying line drives, blazing on the basepaths and covering centerfield gap to gap. He’s excited to get all this playing time, and he is the best defensive center fielder in camp. He’s got speed similar to Velez, but seems to have a good head and knows how to steal a base. I did see him airmail one while trying to gun a runner at third, but at this point in spring throwing errors are all over the place.
Don’t know if he makes it, but I could see him as a late inning defensive replacement/ Rowand’s off day backup……
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by merkin on Mar 6, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
11 man pitching staff
Sounds great, however, you will be asking your starters to begin pitching into the 7th innings of games right out the gate. With Wilson, Affeldt and Howry as three of the six relievers who are the other three relievers between Medders, Miller, Perdomo, Tashcner, Hinshaw, Romo, Valdez, Matos etc?
by wilriv21 on Mar 6, 2009 2:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wish they’d go with an 11-man staff.
Ideally they could AAA shuttle the last spot or two to a few different guys, like they did for parts of last year.
But of course, players have feelings, and aren’t stat producing machines.
by DesertFox on Mar 6, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s only because we raise them to think they’re human. If we told future ball players they were machines from the get go, we wouldn’t have this problem. Look at xanthan, he doesn’t complain about his lot.
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by marcello on Mar 6, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah, the starters…
How deep do you think Unit/Zito/Sanchez are going to go on a regular basis? It could be like a return to the Alou-era bullpen rubber arms (without all those extra beer breaks during games).
by KrazyKrabMeat on Mar 6, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Not just the starters but no day off after Coors field. I think this is the kind of team that can go stretches with 10-11 arms but directly out of the gate? That seems like a not so bright idea.
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by daveinexile on Mar 8, 2009 9:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Three relievers after Wilson, Affeldt and Howry...
At this point, I’d definitely like to see Medders and Perdomo. Then probably Hinshaw—maybe Matos or Miller.
Just, please…. not Taschner.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Mar 10, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No "The Ugly" category?
You’re really slipping, Grant.
by Natto on Mar 6, 2009 2:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bocock is the new Ugly
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 6, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not unless Randy Johnson takes the outfield after we've gone through three catchers and need Pedro Feliz to catch.
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by GiantBrass on Mar 6, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet they ultimately wind up going with a 12 man pitching staff
Sabean just mentioned the 11 man thing as an idea, I think the final roster will have 12. I would hate to see Bowker, Burriss, or Guzman wasted as a 25th man on the MLB roster, I want to see all those guys play everday in AAA.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Mar 6, 2009 3:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I could see the team carrying only 11 pitchers at some point during the season, but not for an extended period. early in the season, though, it seems imperative that the starters not be pushed to go 7+ innings.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 6, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One ticket for both rides please!
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by daveinexile on Mar 7, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Options
Which SF players are out of options?
by wilriv21 on Mar 6, 2009 3:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Schierholtz and Ishikawa are out of options.
Burris and Bowker both still have ’em. Not sure about others.
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by EliminateMe on Mar 6, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A couple more off the top of my head
Lowry has an option left. Valdez does not.
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by jcb9 on Mar 6, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holm
I’d put Holm in the certain category. i just don’t see them going into the season with Pablo as the starting 3b/backup catcher. They need to run for Molina far too often to do that and I’d prefer Sandoval to stick at 3b as much as possible.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 6, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Brian needs some help from me
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by Bocock's Viagra on Mar 6, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by capnk on Mar 6, 2009 4:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bocock-a-doodle-doo
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by Goofus on Mar 6, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one...
that sees Aurilia as “probable” and lets out a heavy (sigh)
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by UnleashTheGore on Mar 6, 2009 5:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
With the Giants cutting Roberts, I’d say Richie is going to have to earn his spot on the roster. If Phelps or Uribe outplays him this spring, Richie might not have a job.
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by Goofus on Mar 7, 2009 6:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are a lot of guys I would like to see stick (Bowker, Jesus), but you have to cover all the positions with backups. So: (previously posted on El Lefty Childraising)
For the 5 extra position players, Holm is a given, as are Velez, who can be both IF and OF, and Schierholtz, if healthy. With those 3, you have covered C, 2b, OF. To cover 1b, 3b and SS you need Aurilia and Uribe. The only really awful choice seems to be Uribe, but I’m not sure they have a choice; they need someone to play a few innings/games at SS.
I think, if Perdomo continues to impress, they go with 12 pitchers, with a pen of: Wilson, Howry, Affeldt, Merkin (if healthy), Taschner, Miller/Medders, Perdomo
by allfrank on Mar 6, 2009 6:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
For the 1st time, I think Taschner is on the bubble…notice has been served.
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by bgunn on Mar 6, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Will the 14th position player get enough playing time to make an appreciable impact? Will that impact be positive or negative in contrast to the theoretical contribution of the 12th pitcher who doesn’t break camp? In these terms… I don’t think it’s going to result in very much one way or the other.
But what it might do is give the club a few weeks to see if one end-of-the-bench guy can establish himself, plus give the last man in the bullpen (once they call up the 12th pitcher as the schedule settles down) a chance to establish himself at Fresno.
Unfortunately, the 14th hitter to be sent down — the one who fails to get off to a good start — will most likely be the one with the fewest options left. That’s just Giants luck.
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by S.F. Giangst on Mar 6, 2009 6:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
novel idea
….a 2man pitching rotation of lincecum/cain allows us to keep 3 additional batters
by cazzuno on Mar 6, 2009 9:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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