The 25-Man Roster...wait, what?
by Grant on Mar 31, 2009 1:19 PM PDT
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Wow.
I mean, wow. My thoughts in gray:
Priority #1 for the Giants: Carry six outfielders
When each of your starting outfielders has the ability to play center field – for just a few innings, even – it’s important to carry two extra center fielders, just in case. You know. In case. Make sure that one of the extra center fielders has nothing to offer but speed, as that way he doesn’t make the center fielder who offers only speed and defense redundant.
Priority #2 for the Giants: Rely on Bengie Molina even more than they have in the past.
We all know that out-of-shape, 34-year-old catchers are fantastic bets to stay fresh and healthy, so the only backup the Giants need is a 22-year-old who is learning a new position at the major league level, expected to be an everyday player, and who didn’t pick up catcher’s gear this spring. What, are the Giants going to get rid of a sixth-outfielder/seventh-infielder who can play several positions poorly? Just for a dedicated backup catcher? That would be crazy.
And my more relevant thought: Whatever. This roster shuffling either won’t make a difference, or it’s going to fail so spectacularly, the moves will all be reversed in a month. By then, either Velez or Torres will be sitting on five total at-bats, the Giants will have lost a game because they didn’t want to pinch-run for the slowest runner in baseball because he didn't have a backup, Burriss will be hitting .240 without an extra base-hit, and the Giants will think, gee, maybe we’ve misallocated our resources.
I can kind of understand if the Giants feel that Kevin Frandsen would be better served facing live pitching every day in Fresno. He did miss an entire year, so sitting on the bench isn’t going to do him a lot of good. And I can almost see ignoring the likelihood that Manny Burriss isn’t a major league hitter yet. I want Burriss to succeed in such a huge way – he’s homegrown, incredibly likable, and a successful Burriss would be a fun player to watch. But low-power, high-contact guys generally don’t succeed against major league pitching, especially if they were never able to coax a lot of walks against minor league pitching. I’ll pretend that’s not true, and root for Burriss to succeed.
I just don’t get how both Andres Torres and Eugenio Velez are both more valuable to the Giants than a dedicated backup catcher, especially when the lack of a designated backup means it’s less likely that the team will use either to pinch-run for Molina in the late innings. Sure, they could shuffle the infield around to put Sandoval behind the plate in the middle of a game, but for what? A sixth outfielder on a team that isn’t burdened with an Adam Dunn-like defensive liability? A second pinch-runner? A fourth second baseman? What’s the tactical advantage? I’d love to hear a logical explanation.
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OH MY GOD THIS IS STUPID.
Did they miss the parts where Bengie got totally burned out the last few years? I mean. And they haven’t even had Pablo playing catcher most of the Spring.
I mean, it probably won’t last too long, but still. WHAT.
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by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean
Yes, you are.
Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
..and this 10 is for the World San Francisco fans Classic.
by thehavenot on Apr 1, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would spew some rage, but I’ve already freaked out sufficiently in the fanshot. Which, if you haven’t seen it, was pretty epic.
Brian Sabean + Bruce Bochy = MASSIVE FAIL.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, in that fanshot, I came up with a theory that I thought made things make a little tiny bit more sense. Here, I’ll cut-n-paste:
Maybe it wasn’t Uribe who pushed Frandsen off the roster. It seems like the Giants had a man-crush on him all along, though goodness knows why. Maybe it’s Perdomo who screwed Frandsen over.
Why do I say this? Well, the Giants have been talking for some time about going with a six-man bullpen. But, going with the Baggs roster, they aren’t – he listed six guy, plus Yabu or (shudder) Ortiz. I’m wondering if, when the Giants decided they wanted to keep Perdomo, they figured they couldn’t do so with a six-man bullpen. After all, Perdomo has looked pretty bad of late, so, at least initially, he probably won’t be trusted with much more than mop-up duty. Thus, the need for another reliever.
This would also explain why they demoted and Yabu only to possibly bring him back. It doesn’t explain why they prefer Yabu to Medders or Miller, though, or why they have a man-crush on Uribe.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Keeping the extra pitcher, I understand
Keeping six outfielders and no backup catcher, I do not
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by j14 on Mar 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said it made somewhat more sense, not that it made sense.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also Natto said Baggs said Velez and Torres probably aren’t on the roster very long together. I’m thinking (hoping) then Holm comes up.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty much convinced that the Giants hate Steve Holm. Maybe he slept with Sabean’s wife and daughter at the same time or something.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe slept with Sabes but didn’t call the next day.
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by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, that’s what Denker did.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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by baetown415 on Mar 31, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said in the fanshot, I think this is a Bochy decision. Boch is a former catcher, and he seems really hesitant to let Holm do anything more than catch in the bullpen.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 31, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand why Bochy being an ex catcher would matter. Holm does a pretty good job at receiving.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I want to see Sandoval catch more, though, so I’m sort of okay with it.
Maybe the Giants didn’t like what they saw from Posey defensively, and decided they need to keep Sandoval’s hand in behind the plate, just in case he needs to start there next season.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Giants want Sandoval catching next year, it’s probably because Posey is unlikely to be ready, not because his defense isn’t good enough. Especially considering almost all sources seem to think Posey is a better defensive catcher than Sandoval.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Posey isn't likely to be ready, his defense seems like a good reason
I’ve heard severely conflicting reports on Posey’s defense. Most seem to agree that he has the tools to become a plus defender, but that he’s far from one right now. Particularly his game calling (though, if the fall league is any indication, his ball blocking is pretty sorry as well).
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well. If Posey isn’t ready, it’s probably because catchers are almost never ready for the majors that fast.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Which is why I thought the Giants’ initial stance, that Sandoval would be playing 3B exclusively and not catching at all, was insane.
Although, the change of heart could also have something to do with Ishikawa’s strong Spring, since that precludes Sandoval moving across the diamond (at least as long as Ishikawa’s hitting, anyway).
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My own rosterbation involved Sandoval catching, Burriss at SS, and third and second basemen being acquired. But I’m of the If Sandoval Is Playing Third We Need A Backup Catcher school of thought.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of interesting, though
I never thought in a million years that the Giants would make such a radical roster decision as going without a dedicated backup catcher. It’s sort of refreshing that they’re thinking outside the box, even if they’re wrong.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Would Like For Them To Carry No Relief Pitcher At All
That way there would be roster room for an additional seven center fielders. I would still not suggest carrying Steve Holm, however.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
by Outside The Box Thinking on Mar 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That and it seems you are of, hell we just overpaid Edgar Renteria for a couple seasons, but let’s just let him rot on the bench school of thought as well. I guess we don’t pay his salary, so what the hell, why not.
by CrispinGloversBalls on Mar 31, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what
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by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well a major reason to sign Renteria was to provide time for a player in AA or AAA to get their SS game together. The leading candidate for this was Burriss. If Burriss is now the everyday 2nd baseman in SF that kind removes that motivation for signing Rentawreck. Unless someone wants to make a case for Bocock comeing alive enough with a bat in the next 18 months… any takers?
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crawford?
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
by Azmanz on Mar 31, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s not going to be in the upper minors this year.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but we got next year too, so it’s possible. Not likely, but more likely than Bocock learning how to hit IMO
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, there are questions about Crawford’s ability to hit, but he’s definitely my favorite SS in the system. Which in part reflects the organization’s lack of depth at the position, but oh well.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
either way rather slim pickings.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
even after you found out he's white?
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Mar 31, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a disappointment. I have visions of Shawon Dunston, Jr. dancing in my head. :(
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, I was saying “what?” to him saying that jcb wanted Renteria to sit on the bench. I’m pretty sure jcb’s rosterbating included not signing Renteria in the first place
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by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I wanted them to give Renteria a multi-year deal not to play!
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly by doing this they will be giving Sandoval some reps to be ready if Bengie is traded during the year. But still doesn’t justify why Sandoval didn’t catch all spring.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sound like you’re thinking ahead and considering a variety of different scenarios. Would you be interested in taking over for Brian Sabean and/or Bruce Bochy?
If the Giants were a blackjack player, then for most of Spring Training they’ve been making smart, conservative bets and slowly building up their pile of chips. Then today they seem to have gone all in and stopped on 15 while the dealer is showing a face card.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
by Kitspool on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could consider filling Bochy's shoes
but not his hat.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well his game calling should be a little behind, because he never called games in college (that’s par for the course for the college catcher ranks). I think this year we’ll see those concerns fade as he gets more experienced; there are already stories floating around about him picking up some of the subtleties. According to everything I’ve read about his ST, Posey is athletic behind the dish with good movement and a great arm. If he doesn’t completely fall apart this year, he should be good to go in 2010.
by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So remember last season when we suffered through almost an entire season of Castillo? This is like that, times five for the godawful decisions being made here.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I hope this is either a horrible dream and/or an early April Fools joke
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Insane.
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by haverecords on Mar 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Giants were doing pretty well with their roster moves until now. What the heck happened?
by Natto on Mar 31, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean it was like that one time my uncle lured my dad into a ravine so some shady guys could cause a stampede that would kill my dad? Cause it feels kinda like that.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m gonna go hang out in the forest with my reject pals because Sabean and Bochy are so retarded.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if it means no worries for the rest of your days, than go for it.
by Natto on Mar 31, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have to study for this gastrointestinal final, so I’ve got plenty of worries right now. Stupid GI and its way too many organs.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timon and Pumba aren’t rejects, damnit. They choose to live in the jungle
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timon, maybe. Pumba was definitely rejected by all the watering-hole cool kids.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you going to do after that?
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
reply fail. not sure why this is here
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Practicing Admiral Ackbar, are we?
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*sigh of relief *
I was really worried I spelled his name wrong. Nerd Status sustained.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone obviously let the old Sabean out of the basement.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Nuekom went on vacation or something, thus letting Sabes run wild.
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by Little Napoleon on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody needs to shop Sabean’s head onto Hulk Hogan…
SabesMania RUNNING WILD!
by The Double Deuce on Mar 31, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sabean lost a bet…or his brain
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
logical explanation?
you set the bar WAY TOO HIGH, Grant.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t frakkin’ believe that there’s no back-up catcher on the roster. And 6 OF? WTF? Find a back-up catcher for the roster, and ditch one of those OFs. This seems obvious to everyone here.
Bengie’s production tailed significantly as the season wore down. Having no obvious way to spell him periodically during the first part of the season seems to spell disaster.
GAH!
I’m waiting for the day that Velez is put in to pinch run for Bengie, and then is left in to catch. That seems something management would do, at this point.
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by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t it amazing that a week ago the discussion was if the Giants would only carry 4 OF because of the versatility of the OF and then what does Sabean do? CARRY SIX. makes total sense
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s Giants brass for you: Defying McCoven Conscious since what ’05 and look at all those pennants errmm post seasons errmm over 500 seasons to show for it!
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Apr 1, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and for those who missed the fanshot
Baggs says the Giants are considering Yabu OR RAMON ORTIZ for the seventh bullpen slot and long relief.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the ortiz thing has to be baggs trolling us right
RIGHT???
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by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My initial reaction:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WTF DID THEY REALLY JUST DEMOTE MILLER AND MEDDERS BUT THINK ORTIZ IS AN OPTION WHATTHEFUCKWHATTHEFUCKWHATTHEFUCK PLEASE SHOOT ME IN THE FACE NOW.
Other fanshot highlights: after months of talking about stats, GRM has again decided that stats are all worthless and anyone who pays attention to them is a dumb nerd. The fact that the Padres demoted Denker was offered as proof for this.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the magic of GRM!
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You call it magic. I call it something else entirely!
by xanthan on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Butt Pee?
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed you, man!
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt think anyone missed Butt Pee
by Butt Pee on Mar 31, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You never really miss it until it’s gone.
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by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t miss it, I’m not sure if it’s just because of how it is or if I get visited often enough by it or something similar.
OK now I think I’ve gone too far.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it may be hereditary
unfortunately, for some folks it runs in their jeans
by Butt Pee on Mar 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, now that was too far.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This joke,
like uranus, is ALWAYS funny
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gee whiz
I can’t believe I’ve seen you the past 2 days….
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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by baetown415 on Mar 31, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Padres demoted Denker? Man, that team is going to suck this year.
by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats Have Their Place But The Are Not The End All The Be All That So Many Here Take Them To Be
My position on them has been the same all along. I value them but I understand their limitaitons.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But do you understand your own limitations!
by xanthan on Mar 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the rainman’s only limitation is the title box
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by haverecords on Apr 1, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to the Fanshot?
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's still there
Just passing along tidbits for anyone who doesn’t want to read through its hundred of posts:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/3/31/816640/frandsen-optioned-to-aaa
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who wouldn’t want to wade through 400 posts of rage and sarcasm?
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget casual racism.
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by marcello on Mar 31, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention the 1200+ on this one as well.
by paboperfecto on Apr 1, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not medders
the reason for yabu or ortiz to make the roster was if we were gonna be minus a reliever, since both guys could eat middle innings and save a shorthanded bullpen. if the bullpen isnt shorthanded why not go with medders, and if we go with yabu or ortiz we should drop send hinshaw down and keep holm.
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Miller, for that matter.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
baggs also said Joe Martinez is in the lead for that job.
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sweet buddha, if ortiz comes into ANY game that is close this year i will rip all the heads of my sister’s barbies and make them perform vorpal fellatio on skeletor’s plastic meat package…and then i will disintegrate the universe
velez in compare it will resemble posterity of the mutant of effigy and tin person, who tries to grip monkeys in flight
by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 31, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This seems like a good time to update my siggy.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A question on something too. Has anyone besides Burriss and Frandsen gotten work at 2B this spring? I think Velez got a few innings, but he’s mainly been in the OF. Uribe? Aurilia? Will there be some huge surprise when one of them takes to the second base position the first time this year?
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It would seem that the organization has wasted some valuable spring training time and failed to prepare responsibly for the season.
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by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I smell bonuses and promotions coming!
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
by Kitspool on Mar 31, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet it was really Bruce Bochy who destroyed the world economy.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He double-switched mortgage rates.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Mar 31, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Juan Uribe is on this team
JUAN FUCKING URIBE IS TAKING UP A FUCKING ROSTER SPOT. I am so goddamned pissed right now…..breathe…must remember to brreeaathe
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not just Juan Uribe!
Juan Uribe AND Eugeneio Velez AND Andres Torres!
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DON'T WANT
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate this team
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl
by j14 on Mar 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but…SPEED AND DINGERZ
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the exact same thing kevin frandsen said as he was leaving zardoz’s office
velez in compare it will resemble posterity of the mutant of effigy and tin person, who tries to grip monkeys in flight
candy Buddha, if ortiz enters into ANY game, which is close one in this year, I will tear all chapters of barbies of my sister and will force them to carry out vorpal [fellyatsiyu] on the plastic packet of the meat of skeletor…, and then I will decompose the universe
by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 31, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Kevin Frandsen. If I’d known this was what would happen on the last day of the year, I would’ve hired a sniper to take him out during his pinch hit. Mercy killing, the poor bastard.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
holy shit, I can’t believe how goddamned PISSED I am about this. OH MY GOD BRUCE FUCKING BOCHEY I FUCKING HATE YOU ARRGGHHHH
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is a serious cluster …… of epic proportions. How Velez is kept as super utility guy over Fransend boggles the mind. There really is not much for Frandsen to do in the minors save – maybe – to knock some rust off. Unless I misremember Velez basicaly had 2 months in AAA. Similar ages. Just make no sense.
The Aurlilia/Uribe / Torress thing for the first couple months I can get. They are hedging their bets encase 2 , or more, of Molinia, Ishi, Rowand ,Sandoval & Renteria have huge flame outs before June. This gives younger guys a chance to play in AAA and not run up service time. I might not want to make that choice but I get it.
But Velez over Frandsen?
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did Sabean forget that Burriss could slide over to SS and Franny man 2B? Burriss IS a SS after all…we don’t need uribe
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bochy must’ve been hit by a foul ball in his huge melon. this is absolutely retarded. Torres and Velez! Isn’t it time to send Velez packing? He can’t hit or play defense. I don’t care how fast he is. He shouldn’t be on this team. Holm got fucked…again!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
but Herbie can suck three times faster than anyone else on the roster.
This doesn’t pose a horrible potential of him bombarding people with throws from second does it?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But according to the fantasy guys at ESPN, Velez is teh awesome sleeper for the stealz! /rolls eyes
by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh well, in that case…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s stealing the job of a real major leaguer….
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A guy on ESPN also recommended Rajai Davis for steals.
This is why I don’t watch ESPN.
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Giants outfielders on the A's bench
Have the A’s set their roster? Are we getting Copeland back?
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don’t watch ESPN, how do you know what some guy on ESPN recommended? Huh? Answer me that, smart guy!
by Evan on Mar 31, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for calling me smart! That’s a really nice compliment!
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last offseason, I remember reading a post from a St. Louis fan suggesting that the Cards trade for Velez because he reminds him of Jose Reyes. I must be missing something, if everyone outside of SF thinks so highly of him
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I notice the Cardinals have stupid fans also.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Velez for Rasmus, FTW! (Can never have too many OFs, as Sabes can attest…)
by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to photoshop an image of Sabean and Bochy’s heads on a pike. I’m sort of amazed we don’t already have an image like that, actually.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You can tell it's almost opening day
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl
by j14 on Mar 31, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s about time, I have been waiting for it.
by CrispinGloversBalls on Mar 31, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They fail arrived so late I was afraid it may not arrive at all.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’ve read that a few of those actually do fall out. It’s just an expected loss. Was that here?
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so
because it sounds oddly familiar
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl
by j14 on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a cool article in Outisde magazine a couple months ago about this very thing. And yes, a few losses are expected. Of course, sometimes larger losses (and hilarity) occurs, too.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that was in the “what do you do” thread somewheres. i remember reading about that too.
by Merope on Mar 31, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t it you that mentioned it?
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Wronghanded Affeldt doing it right
by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a moonman / wjackalope discussion, ’round about here.
by Merope on Mar 31, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh, yes. Thanks
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Wronghanded Affeldt doing it right
by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got mentioned!
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Apr 1, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this should be a regular gameday image this season. we’ll need it.
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
6th Outfielder Math
Randy Winn can be counted on for 150+ games a year, very consistently. So can Rowand if he’s not hurt. To be conservative, let’s count on them each for only 140. Let’s say Lewis’ foot needs some time off, so we’ll pencil him in for 120. That’s 400 starts out of ( 162 * 3 = ) 486 total outfield starts. So, Schierholtz gets 80 starts and Valdez and Torres get, say, 3 each?
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Get ready for Eugenio Velez, late inning defensive replacement!
Actually, your math makes me think of another reason this sucks: diminished playing time for Schierholtz. Argh.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes far too much sense.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
remind me why we need 3 second basemen again?
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don’t have 3 second basemen, one of them is an OF.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just because he’s listed as an OF doesn’t mean he’s anything but a horrible 2B who might play OF. I don’t know if he ever will, because there’s 6 OFs
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who's andres torres?
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by wjackalope on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One of wilriv’s mancrushes.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meet your ’09 no stick, good glove, all speed replacement level back up CFer.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and also in the Fanpost, I wondered about who will now be our emergency catcher, should the need arise. I proposed Randy Johnson, while others liked Eugenio Velez.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My reasonable proposal:
When the need for an emergency catcher arises, all eligible players (yes, including pitchers!) immediately conduct a Ro-Sham-Bo tournament. Winner straps on the tools of ignorance.
If Kruk and Kuip do the play-by-play on the tournament, it might actually be more entertaining than the rest of the game.
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As RJ adoptive father, I disapprove. Do we need to mess up his back even more?
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and I want to see Velez at C. for laughs.
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Aurilia came back a couple years ago, he mentioned that he had the catcher’s gear.
I wonder what all these shenanigans mean for Phelps.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Mar 31, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like this roster for the most part. My one issue is Velez. He has less than 200 AB’s in AAA, so I’d rather see him hitting every day than stuck on the bench. Lord knows he could also use the work in the field, and every time he gets on in AAA we can order him to steal. I’d have Holm up instead.
by Missing Barry on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Velez is never, ever going to be a non-awful defensive player. Sorry.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wut?
Lord knows he could also use the work in the field
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This roster sucks!
I hope Botch is trying to get himself fired before the season starts.
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by Little Napoleon on Mar 31, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
They’re from the same philosophical school: Hope as strategy.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure Bochy doesn’t know what Keynesianism is.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see Sabean kick the tires on AIG.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
by Kitspool on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are not the change we need.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burriss and Frandsen both sent down with Holm
Maybe sending both could happen.. equal unjustice. Let Sandoval do some catching. That would leave room for veterns Uribe, Aurillia and Torres for the first third of the season. Time to make a deal to move some folks.
by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if that happens
I will fire off a very strongly worded email to Neukom
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
daniel, you are going to live with your auntie and uncle in bel air
velez in compare it will resemble posterity of the mutant of effigy and tin person, who tries to grip monkeys in flight
candy Buddha, if ortiz enters into ANY game, which is close one in this year, I will tear all chapters of barbies of my sister and will force them to carry out vorpal [fellyatsiyu] on the plastic packet of the meat of skeletor…, and then I will decompose the universe
by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that better than living in Oakland?
by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re trying to say something unkind about Oakland, you’ll have to answer to me. And delorean.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Oakland very much and delorean’s car.
by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we’re okay then.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/terrorist fistbump
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus defrags my hard drive!
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better captions needed
“Wait…what are those girls doing to each other?”
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a cup of chocolate ice cream?
Wait a minute…
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know they're looking at p0rn.
ask yourself: Where is J-dogg’s right hand? That sleeve sure looks empty to me.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have nothing bad to say about Oakland. I enjoy violent crime and feel the police have no legitimate authority.
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
douche.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I am quite fresh smelling.
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the downside, you can cause bacterial vaginosis.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s life without the occasional infection?
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm…improved?
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the one that can render you sterile?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Needs to get higher up in there. Say Chlamydia (or anything, really) in the tube. But these things do tend to ascend, so yeah, pretty much.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/cynical world view
So , what’s the argument against sterility again?
OK if I adopt Randy Johnson?
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 1, 2009 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you would enjoy Omaha as well, except this city still has segregated school districts and an even more raging meth problem.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My asshole ex-roommate is from Omaha. Oh, the jokes we played on him…
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s too bad Oakland’s the only place with a crime problem, then.
And, y’know, last time I checked there had been one murder in like three years in the precinct where I live.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can someone say defensive?
Oh yeah! Well I’m almost underwater! SO THER
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We do have a creek in the neighborhood, but it’s totally dry at the moment.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although my downstairs neighbors did have their license plates stolen a couple of months ago. That was awesome.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record, I don’t have a problem with this if it means innings at C for Sandoval.
by txgiant on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like rosterbating anymore. This news is akin to getting gross and/or weird images in your head when you’re…rosterbating, and it kills the whole thing.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
rosterbate…rosterbate…rosterbate…rosterbate.rosterbate.rosterbate.rosterbaterosterbaterosterbate[image of Bea Arhtur plowing Brian Sabean with a large phallic marital aide]ACK!!!!
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll never rosterbate again. :(
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno…right now it seems like it’s better than the real thing.
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll just spend my time in the minors.
Wait…
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pfft
Not for another 30 minutes at least
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently Sabean doesn’t think we’re rosterbating the right way
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is just wrong, sick & twisted.
I’m glad your here man.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball, cold showers... Baseball, cold showers...
Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day! Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day!
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, oh God, oh God, uh, uh, uh… dead kittens, dead kittens! Uh, uh, old nuns… uh, really old nuns… uh, Renee Zellweger!
Ah, there we go.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Mar 31, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve actually always had a thing for Renee Z.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 31, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorta…yet not really.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 6 outfielder/1 catcher alignment
only makes sense if a trade is coming. Sending Paulino away so quickly and then keeping only 1 catcher on the roster is sheer lunacy. Frandsen and some of these pitchers they’ve sent down have some value to another team. So to keep myself from laughing at this stupidity, I focus on the possibility that a trade is in the works between now and Opening Day.
Uribe and Aurilia make sense as the primary backups in the infield, given how many positions they can play and their power relative to Frandsen off the bench. And Burriss earned this, and they were giving signs late last season that they wanted to put him at 2B.
But going with 6 outfielders buries Nate even further, and no team can seriously compete with one catcher and your backup being your starting 3B. So, let’s hope Sabean doesn’t blow a good offseason with this move.
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by Buck Henry on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no trade coming. There is no plan. There is only the two-and-a-half headed monster that is Sabes/Botch…
Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.
by Little Napoleon on Mar 31, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Future incoming transition from The Big Head ...
" We felt Travis’ bat was a little slow today so we decided to run Velez out at 1st today.."
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe too many plans and too many heads
by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it make you happy
If Frandsen and some of the pitchers that got sent down were involved in a trade for a backup catcher? Cause I think that would be the last straw for me.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Mar 31, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the answer is clear...
despite Aurilia and Uribe being on the roster, Nate is the backup 3B
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perdomo
I must admit to finding him appealing. Maybe it’s Vegas element to Rule 5. Interesting piece from awhile back on these bets: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/news/2008/267230.html
by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You Are My Enemy.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
by Outside The Box Thinking on Mar 31, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you can’t keep the old Sabean out of our hair what use are you?
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES MY GOOD FRIEND.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only explanation I can come up with is they feel they want/need more time to evaluate some of the players on the team, either Perdomo, Torres, Hinshaw, Velez, etc. They have 4 days off during the first 3 weeks so they can probably get away with not needing a back-up for Bengie during that time. They see how they do against real life ML players and dump one at the beginning of May.
Fuck if I know, that’s the best I can come up with. It’s still stupid though.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Mar 31, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just check the schedule, first day off in May is the 18th. No way this roster stays intact by then.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Mar 31, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, they need more time to evaluate…because this Spring Training wasn’t long enough to make a decision
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just checking in to say...
What the fuck.
I talked to Bill Hayes briefly in Peoria over the weekend, and he seemed to think that Holm was the backup. Kinda makes you wonder wtf is going on over there @ 24 WMP.
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take this as confirmation that they’re just making this shit up as they go along.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bruce bochy is what's goin on
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't punish me with bad roster moves
Marvin Gaye is not pleased.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is deffinatley “Tainted Love”.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bochy DOES really wanna hurt me.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s, let’s save the prospects
Let’s save ALL the prospects
SAVE THE BABIES!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you call him son?
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need someone from Wisconsin to explain this to us.
by Evan on Mar 31, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
STEVE HOLM NEEDS TO WORK ON HIS BEING STEVE HOLM!
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLOATED HEAD OF SKIPPER STILL AWASH WITH "THOUGHTS" ABOUT ROSTER
NEEDS TO WORK ON SILENCING THE “VOICES” IN HIS OUTSIZED CRANIUM"
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember last year being concerned that the Giants were going to carry 3 catchers. Anyone else remember that; it sounds fantastic to me now…
by Scottsdale on Mar 31, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha, that’s right. This is one spazzy organization.
by Evan on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And why were they thinking of carrying three catchers last year?
So they could pinch run for Molina more often…
Has Molina gotten a lot faster over the offseason?
Or…wait! Maybe the reason they’re keeping Velez is so he can carry Molina around the bases!
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie’s in the best shape of his life
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
spherical?
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ow…my sides…
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Barry Zito in the starting rotation?
by Scottsdale on Mar 31, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In all seriousness
could they not just dump they guy, eat his salary, and sign some replacement-level starter to take his place? What is the downside there? Is it better to keep the guy just because you’re paying him, all while he makes your team MUCH worse?
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pride.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
are these guys getting paid for pride or paid to win? I’ve never understood why GMs let these fuckers get away with shit like that. And if it’s the GM’s fault, then the owners should pull their heads out of their asses and do something.
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Owners hire GMs; therefore, the owner’s pride is on the line, too. Never forget this.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
but the owner should realize that winning is more important than all else- fans don’t give a shit about your pride, they care about their team winning. If you fire your dipshyte GM and you start winning, fans will forget about your pathetic pride
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I agree with you completely. I really really wish that owners were more willing to admit their mistakes. The Donald Sterlings of the world don’t seem to understand that winning is the only reliable way to turn a profit in sports-ownership. I hope Neukom realizes this and doesn’t let inertia get in the way of intelligence.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He seems to be a pretty cool guy
all in all, I feel good about SF sports owners right now. The moves the Giants were making looked pretty positive, so we’ll see what Neuk does about this. Jed York seems like he’s on top of stuff too….hopefully
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neuk does seem promising. The Yorks, well, that’s a whole different story. Maybe Jed is the diamond in that family’s rough.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Clippers do really well despite almost always being terrible.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Mar 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Simmons has tickets!
They’re gonna be one of the first teams affected by the recession next year
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but then Sanchez wouldn’t have place in teh Rotation.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PR disaster of unprecedented proportions
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MUCH worse than Joey Martinez (sorry jponry)? I don’t see anyone in AAA who is clearly better than Zito.
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RAMON ORTIZ!
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, go deeper into the minors and let Crawford toe the rubber.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Rogers?
Pedro? Both of them are better than Zito. Not great, but available and still better.
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is a 44-year old who put up a 5.70 ERA last year. Pedro is always injured and will cause us to dip into those imor leaguers who aren’t as good as Zito within a month. Who else you got?
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh
I haven’t thought about it too deeply. I just really hate Barry Zito
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barry Zito is not DFA’able yet, who knows by the end of the contract how he’ll be pitching, but he’s still a major league pitcher.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
He’s right about what you expect from a #4ish starter.
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ughughugh
yes but…just ugh (he makes 18 mil)
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well yeah
but he’s still going to make 18 mil if he’s cut.
He is what he is, the contract is what it is.
Neither is going to get any better from cutting him and signing someone worse.
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And? You pay him to be a 4ish or someone else to be a 5. Those are your options right now.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHUT UP WITH YOUR LOGIC
I just know that I’m sick of him! I should be able to have opinions without you stat nerds getting in my way!
/bill simmons
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he can still be the #4/5 pitcher.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
because
he’s more valuable than a replacement level starter, and we’re already paying him.
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
swagger
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he finds it
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
comment from Baggs' blog made me lul
Neither Medders nor Miller need to clear waivers. They were both signed to minor league contracts and thus are not on the 409 Man Roster and thus do not need to be waived before being assigned to Fresno.
i bet they still only carry 2 catchers on the 409-man roster.
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And one of them’s Guillermo Rodriguez.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phew…I had to check the roster to see whether he really was still with the team. Not on the roster, is he still in the minors with us?
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we saw Eliezer catching for the Pads in Spring Training over the weekend. That was weird.
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just got cut by the orioles
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re totally going to try switching Schierholtz back to third base before the end of the season. And then change their mind halfway through the game and put him on first instead.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schierholtz will end up playing all 9 spots, just like Gerald did, only out of poor planning and necessity
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the ‘07 Frandsen Comes Alive tour? Doesn’t the Big Head not to have young border line talent in other positions to perform that blocking line up maneuver?
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 Catcher?!?! 6 Outfielders?!?!
What goes on in that over sized cranium of Boch? Maybe he thinks he can strap on the gear if they need a another catcher. And why keep Uribe? Isn’t he just a fatter Pedro Feliz who cant be used as an emergency catcher?
by Angry Dwarf on Mar 31, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He combines all the bad parts of Pedro Feliz with lard and mediocre defense.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro Feliz’s head is approximately half the size of Bochy’s. But he’s still smarter.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Add to that i am pretty sure Frandsen was the emergancy Catcher. So he not only sent 1 of 3 catchers he sent 2 out of 4.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was my recollection too.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't really matter who the emergency catcher is...
…as long as you have a dedicated 2nd stringer, you’ll hardly ever need one…oh wait.
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyones said it already and said why we need it. but its so true so let me say it again, WE NEED A BACK UP CATCHER. it always seems like we want to ask the people with the most on their plate to shovel on more (ortmeir switching to 1st trying hit for a whole season and playing OF sometimes), now they want sandoval to save us on offense, learn a new position, and back up his old position. he’s just to important to the line up to have him shoulder all this. thats the main reason i want the back up catcher. the only thing i can think of is that bochy wants uribe to play more so now he can put him at third whenever sandoval is catching. and this is not cool man, not cool at all.
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bowker can catch.
.
.
.
What, you never heard of a left-handed catcher?
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When Carlos Delgado first signed with the Blue Jays, he was a catcher. When I found that out, I was really confused because for some reason I thought he was a left handed thrower.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me no like left handed catchers
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lefty righty matchups!
When a dangerous left handed batter comes up, bring in a left handed catcher! It’ll keep him off balance!
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK, I am going to commute now
Don’t send anymore catchers down for additional outfielders while I am gone
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 3:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
DOIN IT WRONG. Supposed to be Rush.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's too cruel
Next you’ll demand chilipeppers.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, only Rush.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
be sure to commute safely
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 31, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what? you don’t want Horwitz on the roster?
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once Again The Conventional Wisdom Of The McCoven Is Just Wrong
Did any of uyou ever think that the Giants might want to award Torres for his good spring by starting him on the roster and then dropping him when they actually need another catcher?
Did you ever think that the rumors that the Giants would like to trade Velez are true and they came to the conclusion that they couldn’t get what they wanted for him until then showed other teams that he wouldn’t become available for free on the waiver wire?
The odds that the Giants are actually dumb enough to carry both of these two for an extended period of time are very small. Holm will be up when he is needed. The Giants are just buying time to try and trade Velez or to demote Torres later only when they really have to.
As for Burriss vs Frandsen, it makes perfect sense to send down to Fresno whichever didn’t win the 2B job. Burriss won it far and square and you all should actually be happy that the Giants let them compete and gave the job to the winner. Frandsen had his shot and has no one to blame for not being the winner other then himself.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw Frandsen
Never liked him, don’t care.
But carrying 1.33 catchers is idiotic, and the fact that you’re defending this move just goes to show that you’re truly the reactionary anti-anti-Bochy-Sabean troll we all suspected you to be.
Except that I really do believe that you truly believe the crazy shit you say, which is deeply disturbing, but also hilarious.
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The really disturbing thing is that, in making these moves, the team’s management has shown itself to be just as insane as GRM – and in the same way.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants management and GRM are one in the same?
Not deadbeat Dad looking to adopt young SF ball player.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 31, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I thought that
But my mind recoiled in horror.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really doubt no one wanted Velez because they thought they could’ve waited and got him for free.
Not deadbeat Dad looking to adopt young SF ball player.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 31, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes. Yes he does.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats exactly what the’re trying to do but when they dont pull the trade off the’re gonna panic and decide to keep the stupid roster the way it is so we all dont think thats what they where trying to do. bochy keeps bangin on sabes door asking when he can call holm back up while sabean spits out in drunken, depressed slurs, “ride it out, ive almost broken the spirits of all these foolish, liberal, nor caleans.”
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a tip
just because you say someone is wrong doesn’t automatically make it so. WHEN the Giants lose a game because they didn’t pinch run for Molina, then it will be too late to just call up Steve Holm. You can’t call a player up in the middle of a game, which is when it will become apparent that this is a fucking retarded idea.
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing Should Stop Pich Running For Molina
When They do this all they have to do is replace the pinch runner with Aurilia or Uribe playing 3B and move Sandoval to Catcher. The net result is no different if they had an exclusive backup cather and didn’t have Sandoval.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, yeah it is.
The net result is there’s no one to catch if Pablo goes down.
THIS IS WHY YOU CARRY A BACKUP CATCHER.
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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Is True No Matter Who The Secnod Catcher Is
If he replaces the first catcher and gets hurt you have to go with a non catcher on an emergency basis. This is only not true when you carry three catchers which the Giants could have but very few teams actually do.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK,
you’re really not getting this are you? You have Molina, a backup Catcher, and then if that guy gets hurt, THEN Pablo can fill in. If Pablo is the only option, he’s going to have to switch positions a LOT more than if he’s the emergency guy. It’s not that difficult to understand.
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very Few Teams Carry 3 Catchers Because This Risk Is Very Small
The point is the Giants with Sandoval as the backup to Molina at starting 3B isn’t any different the the Giants last year before Sandoval was brought up with Holm as his backup. They pinch ran then for Molina and they can pinch run now for Molina. There are just not going to be many (if any at all) instences where they will not be able to pinch run for Molina late in the game if that is what the situation calls for.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
The difference is that Holm was on the bench, not playing another position full time. Do you really think that doesn’t make a difference? Wow.
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what would have happened if Molina got hurt in the 3rd and then Holm was put in. Then they couldn’t pinch run for Holm. Same thing would happen. Sandoval takes a ball to the face again in the 3rd and then Molina gets on in the 9th inning and you want to pinch run for him. But you can’t.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walrus, everyone understands this, and I anticipate a response below mine in a few minutes to attempt to prove you otherwise. Walrus, it makes too much sense to think this logically.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but I’d say there is a much greater chance of a player getting hurt while they are starting in the field than if they are on the bench. That’s the difference. When Pedro was in both catchers were unavailable but it was due to the circumstances of the game, strategy to replace your regular catcher, and then an injury to need an emergency catcher.
If you have both of your catchers (regular and backup) in the field, that’s double the chance of them getting hurt and forcing yourself to not use any strategy concerning your catcher. Perhaps that just costs us a game or two in the season, but also I’d wager a couple times over the season you’d be stuck with an emergency catcher.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if you've noticed...
…but baseball players are more likely to get hurt while playing the game of baseball than they are while sitting on the bench waiting for their turn to play the game of baseball.
You’re more likely to have your backup catcher available in the 9th inning if he hasn’t already played the first 8 innings at third base.
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, splinters are very dangerous. So you can still get hurt on the bench.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid
stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to elaborate
Yeah that’s really great, have your 22 year old learning a new position at the major league level switch positions IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GODDAMN GAME 3-4 times per week. That will help his development.
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, sure, if you put it that way it sounds stupid.
by Evan on Mar 31, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you mention also learning the tendencies of the pitchers on the staff?
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And still learning how to hit major league pitchers. They’re asking a LOT out of the guy this year.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Mar 31, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. why play him at catcher unless you ABSOLUTELY HAVE to?
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I See You Are Looking In The Mirror.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burned like Dirty’s middle finger.
by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhhhhhh that’s how you slip in some topical news right there!
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe if he had seen this, he wouldn’t have been burned.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what that is and will not watch it ever again.
by Natto on Mar 31, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it that Canadian worker safety video?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Mar 31, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
it’s a GI Joe PSA but re-dubbed. Kinda funny
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you tell me do things I spit coffee…
OK if I adopt Randy Johnson?
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 1, 2009 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~!~!~!~!~!~!!!~!~!~!~!!
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF YOU WERE TIRED YOU’D BE TAKING A SNAP
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Mar 31, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF YOU WERE A SPORTSWRITER FOR THE SF CHRONICLE, YOU’D BE GWEN SNAPP
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IF YOU WERE A BOARDGAME YOU WOULD BE MOUSESNAP
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IF YOU WERE A SPINOFF OF A POPULAR MONSTER-COLLECTING VIDEO GAME CREATED FOR THE NINTENDO 64 YOU WOULD BE POKEMON SNAP
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IF YOU WERE DJ IN CINCINNATI IN THE LATE 70’S AND EARLY 80’S YOU WOULD BE VENUS FLYSNAP
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Mar 31, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF YOUR BITCH WERE PISSING YOU OFF AND YOU WANTED TO MAKE HER SHUT UP YOU WOULD USE A BITCH SNAP
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Mar 31, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF YOU WERE A FORMER ALL-PRO DEFENSIVE TACKLE FOR THE BUCCANEERS FOOTBALL CLUB OF TAMPA BAY FLORIDA YOU WOULD BE WARREN SNAPP
Anyway, my point is that
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IF YOU WERE A GREATEST HITS ALBUM BY THE JAM YOU WOULD BE CALLED SNAP!
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
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IF YOU WERE TO PUT YOUR MIDDLE FINGER AND THUMB TOGETHER AND RUB THEM VERY QUICKLY YOU’D HEAR A SNAP!
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IF YOU WERE A BELLE & SEBASTIAN ALBUM YOU WOULD BE THE BOY WITH THE ARAB SNAP
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My snap was so long it can’t be displayed. There were a lot of exclamation points and tildes too.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wide View FTW I get ! and ~
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are wrong
the giants are wrong. Accept it and move on. You were urging me to do the same, only this time you actually are wrong.
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I Am Right And I Have Already Proven It On THis Point.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assertion != Proof
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proof by Vigorous Assertion
Anyway, my point is that
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Not to be confused with Proof by Vigorous Insertion, which will only gain you child support payments.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try Reading Above
I showed how easy it is to pinch run for Molina and how it is no different to do so with the backup cacher currently on the bench or playing thirdbase. This is a simple fact not an opinion.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were wrong
note what I wrote after your false ASSumption
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, but what if Sandoval is hurt? It’s a lot more likely getting hurt playing 9 full innings instead of coming in for 1 or 2 innings at the end of a game.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try Reading Above
He’s already proved his point, and if you question him, he will simply repeat that he has already proved his point.
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, he’s answered this but I’d still like to see what he says about a slow runner costing us the game in situations like this.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well and what good is a TIRED back up catcher? In a 10 inning game, you can’t take the Panda out: you might need him to catch. There’s GOT to be something else going on here… …please? please…
by Merope on Mar 31, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which brings us to
Limits pinch running strategies for our TWO slowest base-runners.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Mar 31, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nevermind.
I’ll just read the rest of this novel before trying to come up with points that probably have already been thrown out there.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Mar 31, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Fact"
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Injuries are facts, they happen. Especially in a demanding position like catcher is. I know it’s great to think “OMG I love the Giants, so everything they do must be right and I will defend to my death”. The reality is that this is not a very good idea.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Injuries Happen
But in this case the risk is just a single game as another catcher can be added for the next game if needed. The odds of Sandoval being hurt in the same game that you later want to pinch run for Molina are almost too small to actually measure.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With this team
a single game can mean playoffs or no playoffs
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and if the Grizzlies are playing in Washington State, while the Giants are playing in Washington DC it might take a minute or two to get that back up catcher in uniform.
Again, I’m hoping this is just part of “something else is going to happen.”
by Merope on Mar 31, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Russell Martin
Does this go back to your love for Martin? I am thinking so.
I would feel much better with 2 catchers and Sandoval as the E catcher instead of having 1 1/2 catchers.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which then brings up the point, how many catchers did the Dodgers have when Martin played 3B?
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s the point of having two infield “super” utilitymen if you can never, ever pull your third baseman out of the game because you’ve then lost your backup catcher.
by paboperfecto on Apr 1, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No you havent
you’ve been wrong, and then defended your wrong position with inaccurate information. That is the definition of being wrong.
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No< I Am Right And You Are Just Not Bothering To See the Facts I Have Provided.
This is not a matter of opinion. It is a matter of fact. The fact is it does not matter if your only backup catcher is already in the lineup playing 3B. You can still pinch run for your starting catcher and then just mve your backup catcher from 3B to Catcher and insert someone else to play thirdbase. Are you really to dense to see this simple fact?
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notice the 3 or 4 people who have already pointed out why that is a stupid strategy?
good lord, I am also done with this discussion. You are wrong, and this is stupid. Have fun
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rainman, what about the fact that if Sandoval or Molina gets injured earlier in the game then you lose the ability to pinch run for them? This will cost you a game if something like JT Snow happens.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rainman I see you’re back on, I’m interested in what you have to say about this. 9th inning Molina/Sandoval gets on and you have Holm on the bench no problem putting in a pinch runner, either Torres or Velez you’ll still have once one of them is gone for Holm. But if one of them is injured in the 3rd then you can’t do this.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like
the probability of this actually happening should not really affect the decision.
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Mar 31, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you just got here and are now catching up with the entire thread.
That would be pretty funny.
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
subtlety failure :(
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Mar 31, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do You Really Think This Is Likely Enough To Worry About?
I don’t. I don’t recall the Giants pinch running for Sandoval last year and I don’t expect them to this year. I just don’t see why everyone is so worried about Sandoval getting hurt and then later in the same game not being able to pinch run for Molina. Come one! The odds of this happening are very small.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really
What do you gain from NOT having Holm on the 25 man that makes it worth the risk? I can see plenty of ways (however unlikely) where we could lose 1-2 games because of this, and with this team 1-2 games is HUGE. I don’t see a way where we win even one game we wouldn’t have with this arrangement.
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I think I asked you again later so I’ve got your response here. Thanks.
I’d say that if this configuration stays the same for a month, then I’d think there would be a situation where this happens. Whether it be from Sandoval getting hurt or being replaced with a defensive replacement. I’d put the over under at .5 and take the over.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The odds are very small!
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if you (ever) wanted a defensive sub at third base and didn’t want to take Molina out?
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up!
He’s already proved his point!
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not A Problem
You are only going to want a defensive sub when you are ahead and it is late in the game. Very unlikely that you are going to need to pinch run for Molina after this.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've convinced me
Any scenario in which the Giants are ahead late in the game in patently ridiculous.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the chance of the Giants being up more than a couple of runs late in the game is less likely than both the 3B and C getting hurt in the same game.
by paboperfecto on Apr 1, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
’Cause that would only happen if our bullpen gave up the lead, or if it was a narrow lead that needed insurance runs. And we know with our powerhouse offense and rock-solid bullpen those are both highly unlikely.
(Oh, and by the way, I was being sarcastic.)
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, It Could Happen. But, It Just Ain't That Likely.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you actually watched the Giants play in the last year or three?
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Apr 1, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sandoval has already hurt his ankle and taken a grounder off his face. He isn’t the most fluid of fielders. The odds of him getting banged up in the field (and having to miss a game or two) are a bit higher than your standard 3rd baseman who’s played the position for years, rather than a few games.
The same goes Molina’s aging fat ass. He’s had leg problems the last couple of years and the cold of SF isn’t going to help him stay loose in the early part of the season. He’ll need days off, even in April.
If either of these scenarios happen, the no backup catcher strategy really blows up in Bochy’s face.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. He will need a few day off in April. If he was to come in to play defense late in these games then it just defeats most of the purpose of giving his knees rest.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If A Minor Injury Occurs You Just Bring Up Holm
But until then Steve ain’t needed.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
but Juan Uribe is desperately important…in some way. So is Torres and Velez….
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Desperately Just More.
Uribe’s right handed power off the bench more important in late game situations. Torres and Velez’s switch hitting bats and speed off the bench more important in late game situations. All Holm does for you is give you a chance to pinch run for Molina if Sandoval get hurt in the same game. This is way less important.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRM, I think you vastly underestimate how demanding of a position Catcher is. You expect Pablo to be able to master 3rd base, and yet still have the time to be able to become a ML catcher. Seems like you’re asking a lot out of a 22 year old rook.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just Asking Him To Keep Doing What He Did For The Final 2 Months Last Year
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that’s the difference. Last year he was still a catcher that played some 1st and 3rd. No expectations, just get the offense going and show us what you can do. Now he is the 3rd baseman (which I dont like) and being asked to become at least average a league average defender at a relatively new position. Being pushed an pulled all year is not the way to develop young talent.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes it is possible, just like this roster is possible, just like playing in traffic is possible, just like being a dodger fan is possible, just like sex with random women in the santa barbera dorms is possible, just like fighting a fresno grizzly bear is possible, just like droping in on flea at steamers lane is possible
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Hey, when am I ever going to be in Haiti again?”
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention pablo might need a defensive sub late in games
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what about those pesky extra-innings game? The two biggest (e.g. roundest) guys on the field are our only two catchers – that can’t go well if the game goes into the 12th or 13th.
by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are missing the bigger picture here. You really expect a 21-year-old who is learning a new position to be pushed and pulled throughout the season while never getting the chance to settle in his own at one spot. Again, he is 21!!! Baseball players are creatures of habits.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
urghh… 22 year old
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the hitting
Don’t forget he’s going to be seeing a lot of major league pitchers for the first time while the others are going to have a more prepared attack for him. This kid isn’t getting hit with a book, he’s getting hit with the library.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Mar 31, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d much rather have Torres than Velez on the roster, thank you.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torres= velez
but with better D. Why do you need them both?!!!??!?!??!?!!!!??!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!??
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you don't
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, right. I was just trying to refute GRM’s thought that some people seemed to want Velez over Torres.
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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOu Are Incorrectly Assuming This Will Be The Roster All Year Long
All that is set in stone is that it will be th3e opening roster. That is all Torres or Velez are assured of.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's still
pretty indefensibly stupid.
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually nothing is set in stone
Bochy could just be rambling, or he might change his mind after Sabean whacks him upside his enormous head. Until the final cuts are actually made, we don’t know for sure this is gonna be the roster.
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know why it won’t be the roster all year?
Because it’s fucking stupid, that’s why.
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, It Isn't Fucking Stupid. This Over Reaction By The McCoven Is What Is Fucking Stupid.
There are advantages to this roster over a short haul. It can’t last and it won’t be asked to last but it is fine for a short period to start the season.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Award Torres by giving him the #5 spot and sending Velez down.
I have not heard any Velez centered rumors and would like a link that has anything of the sort.
I believe Velez can be sent to the minors without using waivers.
The Giants are pretty dumb sometimes. People wouldn’t be over reacting if they didn’t have a history of being dumb. I’m pretty sure another catcher will be added soon enough though.
Give Burriss the starting job. That’s alright if they feel he is the better choice. It still makes none sense for Kevin to be sent back to the minors. There is nothing left for him to do there and he is being kept down by Uribe. Uribe. Oooo-Reeee-Bay.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it. I keep tricking myself into thinking Velez is actually an outfielder.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Velez does have options
Velez does not have trade value.
So the notion that they’re holding on to him in order to trade him without exposing him to waivers is wrong on at least two counts.
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Mistake. But He His Trade Value Is Still Higher If He Stays On The MLB Roster.
The buys the Giants more time to decide between Torres and Velez by using Sandoval as the backup catcher until they do.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, keep up his trade value.
Like the way we boosted Rajai Davis’ trade value last season. Why, if he hadn’t been on the MLB roster, we might have had to give him away for nothing. Oh…wait…
If they can’t decide between Torres and Velez yet, what good is having them sitting around not getting ABs going to do? There just aren’t enough outfield ABs to split six ways. And since there are no adverse consequences to sending either one to Fresno, why not pick one to keep for now, then swap them out if the one you picked isn’t working out?
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus, normally in April, it’s hard to get ABs for the guys on the bench because the starters needs to really get their work in.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torres has no options. I believe he has to be exposed to waivers.
by allfrank on Mar 31, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But isn’t he on a minor league contract? If he gets sent down now, then he doesn’t have to be exposed.
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This. I don’t think he even needs to be “sent down” just dropped off the ST roster. He’s on a minor league deal, he’ll go to the minors if nothing else happens. If he gets added to the roster and then sent down he would be exposed to waivers.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fact, the only way we could lose him is if he’s on the roster at the beginning of the season and then he gets sent down.
So the only way this isn’t a bad move is if he’s so worthless it doesn’t matter that we’ll lose him on waivers.
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct
He’s not on the 40-man yet, so he can be sent to Fresno. If they add him to the roster and then send him down, then they’d have to expose him.
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone might try to steal our 31-year-old minor league journeyman!
by xanthan on Mar 31, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH NOEZ!!1!
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proof please.
But He His Trade Value Is Still Higher If He Stays On The MLB Roster.
Like most of the crap your peadeling here today it has no rational or logic in either Stas based or old school views of baseball. Team control is team control. Velez would be “mastering” a differnt position ( out field) in the minors. Nothing radical about that.
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by daveinexile on Apr 1, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
carrying no true backup catcher is unwise and takes an unnecessary risk. Of course, the team could be fine over a short period, like a week or so, but the benefits you cite really don’t outweigh the risks. Yes, it is unconventional outside the box thinking, but really it seems kinda stupid. Velez isn’t going to play enough over the short term you speak of to enhance his trade value in any significant respect, if he even has any to begin with. And the competition between Velez and Torres should produce 1 victor, just like the competition between Frandsen and Burriss. The team doesn’t need 6 outfielders in April and “awarding” Torres really shouldn’t be a real consideration. Frandsen wasn’t rewarded and he had a good spring, and has been here longer, and provided more versatility than Torrres.
It might be something the team could do for a week, but it really is playing with fire.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Am Thinking All Of April Not Just 2 Weeks
Four days off and everyone is fresh and healthy. Sandoval will likely only need to start once or twice in April at Catcher and the Giants can decide which outfielder to do what with after that for May and beyond. This just isn’t really all that hard except for those of you that are only happy when you have something to complain about.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
clearly there should be whole new threads made for when GRM posts. damn there are a ton of replies.
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t buy the whole “send ’em up when needed, and send ’em down when not needed”. When will they need a back up catcher…hmm. probably after a weeks worth of games to give Molinas’ legs a much needed day of rest. A viable backup catcher is a necessity. Sorry GRM, but your comment is full of wrong.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In April The Giants Get 4 Days Off
At most they will need another catcher to start 4 games in April and I see no reason why Pablo can’t do this.
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not so happy with this
(Velez and Torres both make it? Uribe and aurilia but no frandsen? Ortiz might make it?)
My semi-okay feeling is slowly decreasing.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
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by raisingcain on Mar 31, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
600 comments on mostly this topic. Are we ready for opening day yet?
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i havent blown my rosterbation load yet, just…..a……little……..bit………longer…………
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you need visual stimulation?
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 31, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/posts GRM nekkid pictures
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
too much man. too much.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Capital Idea.
There's a Big Hole where my Big Unit used to be.
by victor frankenstein on Apr 1, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per my fanshot post of 5 hrs ago
I still cant’ stop thinking about this rosterfuck.
Proud new co-dad of Travis Ishikawa. And ishikaBOOM Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on Mar 31, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Something tells me
we’re all going to be thinking about it for a looong time, like the first month of the season when any chances of competing are shot to hell
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
this team never really had a chance of competing.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not
but JUAN GODDAMN URIBE?? REALLY? It’s like they’re just giving up before the season even starts. I am really angry that he’s gonna be on the team
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could at least pretend like it does at the start of the season. This barely looks like they’re trying.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on Mar 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They don’t but I’d rather go with Frandsen then Juan Uribe.
by SFGuy on Mar 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why holding on to Uribe & giving him ML at bats over Frandsen is even more stupid.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Mar 31, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can rosterfuck to, this blog just gets better and better
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's always a chance...
That Bochy was talking about what HE wants for this team, and when Sabaerkom finds out their manager wants 6(!) outfielders on the 25-man roster there will be an immediate retraction from the GIANTS BRASS.
Sort of like when Mike Singletary wouldn’t say it was impossible that the 49ers might sign Michael Vick after he gets out of jail, followed by Jed York and Scot McCloughan slamming the door on that a day later.
Or, Bochy just hates Steve Holm and wants to make sure Velez and Torres stay mentally engaged through the rest of Spring Training.
All I know is if this ends up with the Giants getting Mike Piazza I’m never using Pert Plus again.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That Bochy was talking about what HE wants for this team, and when Sabaerkom finds out their manager wants 6(!) outfielders on the 25-man roster there will be an immediate retraction from the GIANTS BRASS.
Oh please! Oh please!! Oh Please!!! Oh Please!!!!
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Apr 1, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want some of whatever Bochy and Sabean smoked this morning. It must be damn good stuff. Everyone has commented on the big issues but I need to vent. I was shocked they even kept Ortiz in camp not to mention still having a shot at making the team. Frandsen should be the utility guy over Velez. He has hit better and played better defense at every position that Velez has played. I also don’t understand why they are keeping both Aurilla and Uribe. If you are not going to stick Pablo at 3B I would rather he be the backup 1B and have Holm be the backup C. If you are going to have Burriss on the roster you don’t need Uribe to be backup SS.
I almost think that Bochy has his days mixed up. He probably thought today is April 1st and is just playing a joke on some guys and all the fans. That is the best explanation I can come up with for these moves.
Brett Pill - Lord of the double.
by malarky on Mar 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he has not hit better
velez has hit 328 and is slugging 531 to frandsen’s 274 and 384.
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
and for (sadly, probably not) the last time
Spring training stats != Meaningful.
If 2 players have close to identical minor league numbers, OK, let their spring stats decide.
However, 50-75 PAs in spring should not outweigh several years of minor league productions
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But A Good Scouts Eye Should And That Is What The Giants Are Using To Make These Decisions
by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRM, you are the greatest.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
It shouldn’t.
I don’t care if your expert scout is telling you that player A has all the tools with the smoothest swing you’ve ever seen, if he’s giving up .200 points of career minor league OPS to player B, you take player B.
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you might have a point
if the Giants best home grown hitter from the last decade or so wasn’t Pedro f*ing Feliz.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, that good scouring eye has been seperated from it's good scouting brain.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the laugh!
It was hearty
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i yield to your logic. my jack ass eye has just sees velez’ bat moving faster than frandsens not just his feet. and im ignoring velez’ baseball iq that might be less than mine. i think velez can do more for the team but i have nothing with any weight to base it on
by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Senor Marzo
FTW
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andres Torres?
IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE!
by anthropocenTRICK on Mar 31, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
meh
he’s a fine 5th OF
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is Todd Linden
Until he actually plays in the majors.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think of him more like a souped up Ellision. Any way you spell it he is insurance against Scott running into a wall or Nate’s disk completely slipping out. In the mean time he pinch runs for Molinia.
Oh wait that would mean the Giants need more than 2 players to play catcher on the 25 man. Thus we are off and wondering who is the emercangy Catcher now that Fransden is down.
Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.
by daveinexile on Apr 1, 2009 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOO. Hiss.
Do not want.
That is all.
by Norm Median on Mar 31, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait and see what they open with. They could make a change or it could just be that they don’t figure they’ll need a backup C for a couple of weeks (they have a light April with 4 off days) and why not carry players who give you more offense off the bench?
They could also be waiting to see what back up catchers don’t make the last cuts for other teams.
Dang, it’s not even official and some guys here think it’s going to cost them the pennant. I’m thinking it won’t be the deciding factor. ;→
Jet
by joethejet on Mar 31, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Andres Torres brings offense off the bench?
Nobody here thinks it cost them the pennant because nobody hear thought they would win the pennant anyway.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
though several (myself included) believe we could be at least in the running for the division, and 1-2 games lost because of this ridiculousness could be the difference at the end of the season.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Holm isn’t an offensive power house. At least I would think that they think he’ll give them more offense and speed than Holm. There is some rationale there. I mean, come on, he hit .397 so far this spring. You don’t expect him to do that in the majors???? ;-)
My tongue was firmly in cheek with the pennant comment. Referring as you say, to low expectations.
by joethejet on Mar 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe they plan to ride Molina hard and trade him at the deadline, before the work takes its toll.
wishful thinking, I know.
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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bighead to appear on KNBR
after the current commercial break.
First words out of mouth to be… April Fool! Ha ha McCoven, sure had you going! Pop open a cool Frandsenberry Kool-Aid and relax!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I hope for the first mention of the McCoven by one of the Giants officials or players. Kruk and Kuip called Grant the McCoveyChronicles Insider for a while when he was blogging for FSN too, but never specifically pointed to the website.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
some caller
ripping KNBR for drinking the Frandsenberry… Ralph claiming he’s an entertaining interview.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guy only played one game last season. Why should he be on the roster? I’ll take my answer off the air.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're stalling waiting for Botchy
talking about some football team
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bochy is busily reading the interwebs, trying to figure out what to say.
by Merope on Mar 31, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he kind of talks like him.
without the creepy nicknames.
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Mar 31, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRM + baybear = Bochy?
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRM + baybear = giantscarebear!!!
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
now they're starting to whinge about Botchy standing them up
sweet
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they're giving up
Saying Botchy is on a bus and waiting to get off to call in.
Maybe it will roll over him as he’s listening to ralph introduce him.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now Bochy is in a meeting – discussing roster cuts? hmmmm
I’m thinking no Bochy on KNBR today.
by Merope on Mar 31, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
manny burriss starting 2B?
Really? I actually commend the GINTS BRASS for going with 1.5 catchers. Velez is really an IN/OF anyway.
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by zenbitz on Mar 31, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take the over on that, but it won’t be above .340
by Scottsdale on Mar 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
I’ll take .339
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohh, I get it now
We signed someone named Holmes to play backup C.
Phew.
Proud new co-dad of Travis Ishikawa. And ishikaBOOM Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on Mar 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There goes the theory that the Giants hate Steve Holm. How can they hate someone they don’t even know?
Not deadbeat Dad looking to adopt young SF ball player.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 31, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, Holm is a bastard.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“What’s with the kid holding a severed hand?”
by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Holmes is our new catcher? WOW!
/waits for wilriv
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
[wilriv]
Brother died from Aids.
[/wilriv]
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man
That was one of the weirdest conversation I’ve ever had. I really had no idea where he was going. At first I was angry, because I thought wilriv was going to say something homophobic, then I was just confused. Then I got wil’s point, but still had no idea how we were supposed to understand it from his comments.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Mar 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s how about half the conversations with him go.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the other half, he does say something homophobic.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that wilriv!
(laughtrack)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know why MCC works so well? Because we have no problem with openly mocking each other. On some other sites, that shit gets you banned. And then everyone just ends up full of bottled-up rage. You know, like I am. Imagine a whole forum of jcb9.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like one giant dysfunctional family.
by xanthan on Mar 31, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s all in good humor and I think the mocked know that it’s just for the lulz.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I take my mocking very personally and I secretly hate you all.
by xanthan on Mar 31, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, another thing to add to the hate pie chart. “You All.”
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Mar 31, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever!
Everyone knows computers don’t have emotions!
What are you, stupid?
by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey kids i'm a compooter
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Help computer; stop the downloadin’.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wtf?
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep still as funny as the first 200 times i watched it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that movie will ever get old
But then, I love history jokes. So I’m biased.
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What in the hell was that?
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Mar 31, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oakland is pretty touchy though…
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, we just prefer people have more original reasons for bashing us.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See what I mean?
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEY GUYS LETS TRADE CAIN HEZ NOT A WINER.
It’s that sorta thing, transposed to cities. That’s all.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because we have no problem with openly mocking each other.
Just transposed to Oakland. I’ll try to come up with more original reasons to avoid it in the future.
I kid, I kid. Call off the Deloreans…
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you can openly mock – that’s fine! I just openly eye-roll in response is all.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
I don’t actually hate Oakland, but the people who put this together really don’t represent it well (I also understand they are not the majority of residents).
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 1, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean?
I’m on probation for doing such a thing…
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 31, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as they are a long time member they get it.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/concentrates rage at jcb9 for no reason
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 31, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That show was brilliant, but it turns out there’s not a large audience for a show whose sole point is to make fun of the conventions of sitcommery.
Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s the President, resident, he’s kind of in charge
He’s got the whole country saying, “That’s my Bush!”
Life is hard, it’s the price of fame, when you’re president everyone knows your name
That’s my Bush!
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holmes!
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case it gets changed before others get a chance to see it...
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then no mention of Aurilia or this mysterious Holmes person in the article.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Mar 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elementary my dear Watson
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
holmes was snooping around the clubhouse trying to find out how the Giants decided to carry 6 OFs
Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. This is one of the only ways a 5' 10" father can have a 6' 10" son.
by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rodney Dangerfield called to express sympathy for Steve Holm
Anyway, my point is that
by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not that different than the roster I was hoping for… (differences in bold)
Starting pitchers (5): Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Randy Johnson, Barry Zito, Jonathan Sanchez
Relievers (7): Brian Wilson, Jeremy Affeldt, Bob Howry, Alex Hinshaw, Merkin Valdez, Luis Perdomo, Justin Miller or Brian Medders
Catchers (1): Bengie Molina.
Infielders (6): 1B Travis Ishikawa, 2B Emmanuel Burriss, SS Edgar Renteria, 3B/C Pablo Sandoval, INF Rich Aurilia, INF Kevin Frandsen
Outfielders (5): CF Aaron Rowand, RF Randy Winn, LF Fred Lewis, Nate Schierholtz, Andres Torres
Left Out: Speedy McVelez, “other” long reliever, Uribe
Unlike some people here, I like the idea of Pablo catching a game or two a week. It would be easy enough to call up Holm a series or so a month to give the big boys some rest. If you would feel more comfortable, it would be easy to replace Torres with Holm.
But seriously, its two roster spots! Take a breath! The Fresno shuttle will be active. Frandsen will be up as soon, and Holm will be catching and helping the offense to fuel a 0-1 Matt Cain loss too soon for my liking.
by Say_Hey on Mar 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s more like four roster spots. For me, at least.
Those being Uribe, Torres, (other reliever), and either Hinshaw or Perdomo. Actually, I like both Hinshaw and Perdomo, but I’d rather keep just one. Having both in the bullpen at once seems a little much.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is more of a minor point, but I’m a bit surprised to see Hinshaw making the team. Not that he isn’t decent, but he still has some control consistency to sort out before he’s going to stick in the bigs.
by Scottsdale on Mar 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s there until Romo, and then either Perdomo or Hinshaw is axed.
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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was assuming either Yabu/(shudder) Ortiz or Perdomo.
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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs