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Zooom! Vrrrrrooooom! This guy scores runs! Just look at the picture! We need him on the team.

Wow.

I mean, wow. My thoughts in gray:

Priority #1 for the Giants: Carry six outfielders

When each of your starting outfielders has the ability to play center field – for just a few innings, even – it’s important to carry two extra center fielders, just in case. You know. In case. Make sure that one of the extra center fielders has nothing to offer but speed, as that way he doesn’t make the center fielder who offers only speed and defense redundant.

Priority #2 for the Giants: Rely on Bengie Molina even more than they have in the past.

We all know that out-of-shape, 34-year-old catchers are fantastic bets to stay fresh and healthy, so the only backup the Giants need is a 22-year-old who is learning a new position at the major league level, expected to be an everyday player, and who didn’t pick up catcher’s gear this spring. What, are the Giants going to get rid of a sixth-outfielder/seventh-infielder who can play several positions poorly? Just for a dedicated backup catcher? That would be crazy.

And my more relevant thought: Whatever. This roster shuffling either won’t make a difference, or it’s going to fail so spectacularly, the moves will all be reversed in a month. By then, either Velez or Torres will be sitting on five total at-bats, the Giants will have lost a game because they didn’t want to pinch-run for the slowest runner in baseball because he didn't have a backup, Burriss will be hitting .240 without an extra base-hit, and the Giants will think, gee, maybe we’ve misallocated our resources.

I can kind of understand if the Giants feel that Kevin Frandsen would be better served facing live pitching every day in Fresno. He did miss an entire year, so sitting on the bench isn’t going to do him a lot of good. And I can almost see ignoring the likelihood that Manny Burriss isn’t a major league hitter yet. I want Burriss to succeed in such a huge way – he’s homegrown, incredibly likable, and a successful Burriss would be a fun player to watch. But low-power, high-contact guys generally don’t succeed against major league pitching, especially if they were never able to coax a lot of walks against minor league pitching. I’ll pretend that’s not true, and root for Burriss to succeed.

I just don’t get how both Andres Torres and Eugenio Velez are both more valuable to the Giants than a dedicated backup catcher, especially when the lack of a designated backup means it’s less likely that the team will use either to pinch-run for Molina in the late innings. Sure, they could shuffle the infield around to put Sandoval behind the plate in the middle of a game, but for what? A sixth outfielder on a team that isn’t burdened with an Adam Dunn-like defensive liability? A second pinch-runner? A fourth second baseman? What’s the tactical advantage? I’d love to hear a logical explanation.

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OH MY GOD THIS IS STUPID.

Did they miss the parts where Bengie got totally burned out the last few years? I mean. And they haven’t even had Pablo playing catcher most of the Spring.

I mean, it probably won’t last too long, but still. WHAT.

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by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I mean

Yes, you are.

Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
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by thehavenot on Apr 1, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would spew some rage, but I’ve already freaked out sufficiently in the fanshot. Which, if you haven’t seen it, was pretty epic.

Brian Sabean + Bruce Bochy = MASSIVE FAIL.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, in that fanshot, I came up with a theory that I thought made things make a little tiny bit more sense. Here, I’ll cut-n-paste:

Maybe it wasn’t Uribe who pushed Frandsen off the roster. It seems like the Giants had a man-crush on him all along, though goodness knows why. Maybe it’s Perdomo who screwed Frandsen over.

Why do I say this? Well, the Giants have been talking for some time about going with a six-man bullpen. But, going with the Baggs roster, they aren’t – he listed six guy, plus Yabu or (shudder) Ortiz. I’m wondering if, when the Giants decided they wanted to keep Perdomo, they figured they couldn’t do so with a six-man bullpen. After all, Perdomo has looked pretty bad of late, so, at least initially, he probably won’t be trusted with much more than mop-up duty. Thus, the need for another reliever.

This would also explain why they demoted and Yabu only to possibly bring him back. It doesn’t explain why they prefer Yabu to Medders or Miller, though, or why they have a man-crush on Uribe.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Keeping the extra pitcher, I understand

Keeping six outfielders and no backup catcher, I do not

Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl

by j14 on Mar 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said it made somewhat more sense, not that it made sense.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also Natto said Baggs said Velez and Torres probably aren’t on the roster very long together. I’m thinking (hoping) then Holm comes up.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty much convinced that the Giants hate Steve Holm. Maybe he slept with Sabean’s wife and daughter at the same time or something.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe slept with Sabes but didn’t call the next day.

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by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, that’s what Denker did.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Mar 31, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said in the fanshot, I think this is a Bochy decision. Boch is a former catcher, and he seems really hesitant to let Holm do anything more than catch in the bullpen.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 31, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t understand why Bochy being an ex catcher would matter. Holm does a pretty good job at receiving.

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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I want to see Sandoval catch more, though, so I’m sort of okay with it.

Maybe the Giants didn’t like what they saw from Posey defensively, and decided they need to keep Sandoval’s hand in behind the plate, just in case he needs to start there next season.

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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Giants want Sandoval catching next year, it’s probably because Posey is unlikely to be ready, not because his defense isn’t good enough. Especially considering almost all sources seem to think Posey is a better defensive catcher than Sandoval.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Posey isn't likely to be ready, his defense seems like a good reason

I’ve heard severely conflicting reports on Posey’s defense. Most seem to agree that he has the tools to become a plus defender, but that he’s far from one right now. Particularly his game calling (though, if the fall league is any indication, his ball blocking is pretty sorry as well).

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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well. If Posey isn’t ready, it’s probably because catchers are almost never ready for the majors that fast.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Which is why I thought the Giants’ initial stance, that Sandoval would be playing 3B exclusively and not catching at all, was insane.

Although, the change of heart could also have something to do with Ishikawa’s strong Spring, since that precludes Sandoval moving across the diamond (at least as long as Ishikawa’s hitting, anyway).

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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My own rosterbation involved Sandoval catching, Burriss at SS, and third and second basemen being acquired. But I’m of the If Sandoval Is Playing Third We Need A Backup Catcher school of thought.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of interesting, though

I never thought in a million years that the Giants would make such a radical roster decision as going without a dedicated backup catcher. It’s sort of refreshing that they’re thinking outside the box, even if they’re wrong.

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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Would Like For Them To Carry No Relief Pitcher At All

That way there would be roster room for an additional seven center fielders. I would still not suggest carrying Steve Holm, however.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

by Outside The Box Thinking on Mar 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That and it seems you are of, hell we just overpaid Edgar Renteria for a couple seasons, but let’s just let him rot on the bench school of thought as well. I guess we don’t pay his salary, so what the hell, why not.

by CrispinGloversBalls on Mar 31, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well a major reason to sign Renteria was to provide time for a player in AA or AAA to get their SS game together. The leading candidate for this was Burriss. If Burriss is now the everyday 2nd baseman in SF that kind removes that motivation for signing Rentawreck. Unless someone wants to make a case for Bocock comeing alive enough with a bat in the next 18 months… any takers?

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crawford?

proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..

by Azmanz on Mar 31, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not going to be in the upper minors this year.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but we got next year too, so it’s possible. Not likely, but more likely than Bocock learning how to hit IMO

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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, there are questions about Crawford’s ability to hit, but he’s definitely my favorite SS in the system. Which in part reflects the organization’s lack of depth at the position, but oh well.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

either way rather slim pickings.

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

even after you found out he's white?

Fairley odd parent to Wendell

by WTF on Mar 31, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a disappointment. I have visions of Shawon Dunston, Jr. dancing in my head. :(

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, I was saying “what?” to him saying that jcb wanted Renteria to sit on the bench. I’m pretty sure jcb’s rosterbating included not signing Renteria in the first place

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I wanted them to give Renteria a multi-year deal not to play!

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GROUPTHINK ALERT

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by neurofarm on Mar 31, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly by doing this they will be giving Sandoval some reps to be ready if Bengie is traded during the year. But still doesn’t justify why Sandoval didn’t catch all spring.

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Wronghanded Affeldt doing it right

by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sound like you’re thinking ahead and considering a variety of different scenarios. Would you be interested in taking over for Brian Sabean and/or Bruce Bochy?

If the Giants were a blackjack player, then for most of Spring Training they’ve been making smart, conservative bets and slowly building up their pile of chips. Then today they seem to have gone all in and stopped on 15 while the dealer is showing a face card.

My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.

by Kitspool on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could consider filling Bochy's shoes

but not his hat.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well his game calling should be a little behind, because he never called games in college (that’s par for the course for the college catcher ranks). I think this year we’ll see those concerns fade as he gets more experienced; there are already stories floating around about him picking up some of the subtleties. According to everything I’ve read about his ST, Posey is athletic behind the dish with good movement and a great arm. If he doesn’t completely fall apart this year, he should be good to go in 2010.

by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So remember last season when we suffered through almost an entire season of Castillo? This is like that, times five for the godawful decisions being made here.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I hope this is either a horrible dream and/or an early April Fools joke

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Insane.

Adoptive Parent of Francisco Peguero. He can throw, he can run, he can hit(fastballs), and he's Dominican. What else do you need to know?

by haverecords on Mar 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Giants were doing pretty well with their roster moves until now. What the heck happened?

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by Natto on Mar 31, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a trap.

by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean it was like that one time my uncle lured my dad into a ravine so some shady guys could cause a stampede that would kill my dad? Cause it feels kinda like that.

When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m gonna go hang out in the forest with my reject pals because Sabean and Bochy are so retarded.

When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if it means no worries for the rest of your days, than go for it.

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by Natto on Mar 31, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still have to study for this gastrointestinal final, so I’ve got plenty of worries right now. Stupid GI and its way too many organs.

When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Timon and Pumba aren’t rejects, damnit. They choose to live in the jungle

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008

by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Timon, maybe. Pumba was definitely rejected by all the watering-hole cool kids.

When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you going to do after that?

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008

by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

reply fail. not sure why this is here

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008

by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Practicing Admiral Ackbar, are we?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*sigh of relief *

I was really worried I spelled his name wrong. Nerd Status sustained.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone obviously let the old Sabean out of the basement.

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Nuekom went on vacation or something, thus letting Sabes run wild.

Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.

by Little Napoleon on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody needs to shop Sabean’s head onto Hulk Hogan…

SabesMania RUNNING WILD!

by The Double Deuce on Mar 31, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sabean lost a bet…or his brain

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

logical explanation?

you set the bar WAY TOO HIGH, Grant.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I can’t frakkin’ believe that there’s no back-up catcher on the roster. And 6 OF? WTF? Find a back-up catcher for the roster, and ditch one of those OFs. This seems obvious to everyone here.

Bengie’s production tailed significantly as the season wore down. Having no obvious way to spell him periodically during the first part of the season seems to spell disaster.

GAH!

I’m waiting for the day that Velez is put in to pinch run for Bengie, and then is left in to catch. That seems something management would do, at this point.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t it amazing that a week ago the discussion was if the Giants would only carry 4 OF because of the versatility of the OF and then what does Sabean do? CARRY SIX. makes total sense

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s Giants brass for you: Defying McCoven Conscious since what ’05 and look at all those pennants errmm post seasons errmm over 500 seasons to show for it!

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Apr 1, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and for those who missed the fanshot

Baggs says the Giants are considering Yabu OR RAMON ORTIZ for the seventh bullpen slot and long relief.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the ortiz thing has to be baggs trolling us right

RIGHT???

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My initial reaction:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WTF DID THEY REALLY JUST DEMOTE MILLER AND MEDDERS BUT THINK ORTIZ IS AN OPTION WHATTHEFUCKWHATTHEFUCKWHATTHEFUCK PLEASE SHOOT ME IN THE FACE NOW.

Other fanshot highlights: after months of talking about stats, GRM has again decided that stats are all worthless and anyone who pays attention to them is a dumb nerd. The fact that the Padres demoted Denker was offered as proof for this.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's the magic of GRM!

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You call it magic. I call it something else entirely!

by xanthan on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Butt Pee?

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed you, man!

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt think anyone missed Butt Pee

by Butt Pee on Mar 31, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You never really miss it until it’s gone.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t miss it, I’m not sure if it’s just because of how it is or if I get visited often enough by it or something similar.

OK now I think I’ve gone too far.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it may be hereditary

unfortunately, for some folks it runs in their jeans

by Butt Pee on Mar 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, now that was too far.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This joke,

like uranus, is ALWAYS funny

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gee whiz

I can’t believe I’ve seen you the past 2 days….

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Mar 31, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Padres demoted Denker? Man, that team is going to suck this year.

by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stats Have Their Place But The Are Not The End All The Be All That So Many Here Take Them To Be

My position on them has been the same all along. I value them but I understand their limitaitons.

by giantsrainman on Mar 31, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But do you understand your own limitations!

by xanthan on Mar 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the rainman’s only limitation is the title box

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by haverecords on Apr 1, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+109

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Mar 31, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happened to the Fanshot?

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's still there

Just passing along tidbits for anyone who doesn’t want to read through its hundred of posts:

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/3/31/816640/frandsen-optioned-to-aaa

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who wouldn’t want to wade through 400 posts of rage and sarcasm?

Anyway, my point is that

by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t forget casual racism.

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Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Mar 31, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention the 1200+ on this one as well.

by paboperfecto on Apr 1, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not medders

the reason for yabu or ortiz to make the roster was if we were gonna be minus a reliever, since both guys could eat middle innings and save a shorthanded bullpen. if the bullpen isnt shorthanded why not go with medders, and if we go with yabu or ortiz we should drop send hinshaw down and keep holm.

by shaolinironlion on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Miller, for that matter.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

baggs also said Joe Martinez is in the lead for that job.

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweet buddha, if ortiz comes into ANY game that is close this year i will rip all the heads of my sister’s barbies and make them perform vorpal fellatio on skeletor’s plastic meat package…and then i will disintegrate the universe

velez in compare it will resemble posterity of the mutant of effigy and tin person, who tries to grip monkeys in flight

by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 31, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This seems like a good time to update my siggy.

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A question on something too. Has anyone besides Burriss and Frandsen gotten work at 2B this spring? I think Velez got a few innings, but he’s mainly been in the OF. Uribe? Aurilia? Will there be some huge surprise when one of them takes to the second base position the first time this year?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It would seem that the organization has wasted some valuable spring training time and failed to prepare responsibly for the season.

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by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I smell bonuses and promotions coming!

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by Kitspool on Mar 31, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet it was really Bruce Bochy who destroyed the world economy.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He double-switched mortgage rates.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Mar 31, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Juan Uribe is on this team

JUAN FUCKING URIBE IS TAKING UP A FUCKING ROSTER SPOT. I am so goddamned pissed right now…..breathe…must remember to brreeaathe

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not just Juan Uribe!

Juan Uribe AND Eugeneio Velez AND Andres Torres!

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate this team

Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl

by j14 on Mar 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but…SPEED AND DINGERZ

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is the exact same thing kevin frandsen said as he was leaving zardoz’s office

velez in compare it will resemble posterity of the mutant of effigy and tin person, who tries to grip monkeys in flight

candy Buddha, if ortiz enters into ANY game, which is close one in this year, I will tear all chapters of barbies of my sister and will force them to carry out vorpal [fellyatsiyu] on the plastic packet of the meat of skeletor…, and then I will decompose the universe

by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 31, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Kevin Frandsen. If I’d known this was what would happen on the last day of the year, I would’ve hired a sniper to take him out during his pinch hit. Mercy killing, the poor bastard.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

holy shit, I can’t believe how goddamned PISSED I am about this. OH MY GOD BRUCE FUCKING BOCHEY I FUCKING HATE YOU ARRGGHHHH

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is a serious cluster …… of epic proportions. How Velez is kept as super utility guy over Fransend boggles the mind. There really is not much for Frandsen to do in the minors save – maybe – to knock some rust off. Unless I misremember Velez basicaly had 2 months in AAA. Similar ages. Just make no sense.

The Aurlilia/Uribe / Torress thing for the first couple months I can get. They are hedging their bets encase 2 , or more, of Molinia, Ishi, Rowand ,Sandoval & Renteria have huge flame outs before June. This gives younger guys a chance to play in AAA and not run up service time. I might not want to make that choice but I get it.

But Velez over Frandsen?

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but dude

speed.

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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

did Sabean forget that Burriss could slide over to SS and Franny man 2B? Burriss IS a SS after all…we don’t need uribe

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bochy must’ve been hit by a foul ball in his huge melon. this is absolutely retarded. Torres and Velez! Isn’t it time to send Velez packing? He can’t hit or play defense. I don’t care how fast he is. He shouldn’t be on this team. Holm got fucked…again!

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

but Herbie can suck three times faster than anyone else on the roster.

This doesn’t pose a horrible potential of him bombarding people with throws from second does it?

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by natteringnabob on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But according to the fantasy guys at ESPN, Velez is teh awesome sleeper for the stealz! /rolls eyes

by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh well, in that case…

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’s stealing the job of a real major leaguer….

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A guy on ESPN also recommended Rajai Davis for steals.

This is why I don’t watch ESPN.

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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Giants outfielders on the A's bench

Have the A’s set their roster? Are we getting Copeland back?

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you don’t watch ESPN, how do you know what some guy on ESPN recommended? Huh? Answer me that, smart guy!

by Evan on Mar 31, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for calling me smart! That’s a really nice compliment!

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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last offseason, I remember reading a post from a St. Louis fan suggesting that the Cards trade for Velez because he reminds him of Jose Reyes. I must be missing something, if everyone outside of SF thinks so highly of him

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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I notice the Cardinals have stupid fans also.

by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Velez for Rasmus, FTW! (Can never have too many OFs, as Sabes can attest…)

by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone needs to photoshop an image of Sabean and Bochy’s heads on a pike. I’m sort of amazed we don’t already have an image like that, actually.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You can tell it's almost opening day

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by j14 on Mar 31, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s about time, I have been waiting for it.

by CrispinGloversBalls on Mar 31, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They fail arrived so late I was afraid it may not arrive at all.

by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I’ve read that a few of those actually do fall out. It’s just an expected loss. Was that here?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so

because it sounds oddly familiar

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by j14 on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was a cool article in Outisde magazine a couple months ago about this very thing. And yes, a few losses are expected. Of course, sometimes larger losses (and hilarity) occurs, too.

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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that was in the “what do you do” thread somewheres. i remember reading about that too.

by Merope on Mar 31, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t it you that mentioned it?

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Wronghanded Affeldt doing it right

by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a moonman / wjackalope discussion, ’round about here.

by Merope on Mar 31, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhh, yes. Thanks

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by Giant among Angels on Mar 31, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this should be a regular gameday image this season. we’ll need it.

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

6th Outfielder Math

Randy Winn can be counted on for 150+ games a year, very consistently. So can Rowand if he’s not hurt. To be conservative, let’s count on them each for only 140. Let’s say Lewis’ foot needs some time off, so we’ll pencil him in for 120. That’s 400 starts out of ( 162 * 3 = ) 486 total outfield starts. So, Schierholtz gets 80 starts and Valdez and Torres get, say, 3 each?

Anyway, my point is that

by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 1:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Get ready for Eugenio Velez, late inning defensive replacement!

Actually, your math makes me think of another reason this sucks: diminished playing time for Schierholtz. Argh.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This makes far too much sense.

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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

remind me why we need 3 second basemen again?

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don’t have 3 second basemen, one of them is an OF.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just because he’s listed as an OF doesn’t mean he’s anything but a horrible 2B who might play OF. I don’t know if he ever will, because there’s 6 OFs

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of wilriv’s mancrushes.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and also in the Fanpost, I wondered about who will now be our emergency catcher, should the need arise. I proposed Randy Johnson, while others liked Eugenio Velez.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My reasonable proposal:

When the need for an emergency catcher arises, all eligible players (yes, including pitchers!) immediately conduct a Ro-Sham-Bo tournament. Winner straps on the tools of ignorance.

If Kruk and Kuip do the play-by-play on the tournament, it might actually be more entertaining than the rest of the game.

Anyway, my point is that

by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As RJ adoptive father, I disapprove. Do we need to mess up his back even more?

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, and I want to see Velez at C. for laughs.

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Aurilia came back a couple years ago, he mentioned that he had the catcher’s gear.

I wonder what all these shenanigans mean for Phelps.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Mar 31, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually like this roster for the most part. My one issue is Velez. He has less than 200 AB’s in AAA, so I’d rather see him hitting every day than stuck on the bench. Lord knows he could also use the work in the field, and every time he gets on in AAA we can order him to steal. I’d have Holm up instead.

by Missing Barry on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Velez is never, ever going to be a non-awful defensive player. Sorry.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IAWTC

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wut?
Lord knows he could also use the work in the field

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This roster sucks!

I hope Botch is trying to get himself fired before the season starts.

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by Little Napoleon on Mar 31, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can’t Obama fire Sabean and Bochy?

by txgiant on Mar 31, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why?

They’re from the same philosophical school: Hope as strategy.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure Bochy doesn’t know what Keynesianism is.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to see Sabean kick the tires on AIG.

My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.

by Kitspool on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are not the change we need.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel shocked.

by deuce deuce on Mar 31, 2009 2:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

THIS WHOLE WORLD IS TOPSY TURVY!

by xanthan on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Burriss and Frandsen both sent down with Holm

Maybe sending both could happen.. equal unjustice. Let Sandoval do some catching. That would leave room for veterns Uribe, Aurillia and Torres for the first third of the season. Time to make a deal to move some folks.

by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

if that happens

I will fire off a very strongly worded email to Neukom

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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

daniel, you are going to live with your auntie and uncle in bel air

velez in compare it will resemble posterity of the mutant of effigy and tin person, who tries to grip monkeys in flight

candy Buddha, if ortiz enters into ANY game, which is close one in this year, I will tear all chapters of barbies of my sister and will force them to carry out vorpal [fellyatsiyu] on the plastic packet of the meat of skeletor…, and then I will decompose the universe

by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that better than living in Oakland?

by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you’re trying to say something unkind about Oakland, you’ll have to answer to me. And delorean.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Oakland very much and delorean’s car.

by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, we’re okay then.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/terrorist fistbump

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus defrags my hard drive!

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better captions needed

“Wait…what are those girls doing to each other?”

Anyway, my point is that

by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that a cup of chocolate ice cream?

Wait a minute…

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know they're looking at p0rn.

ask yourself: Where is J-dogg’s right hand? That sleeve sure looks empty to me.

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by Bhaakon on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have nothing bad to say about Oakland. I enjoy violent crime and feel the police have no legitimate authority.

Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

douche.

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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I am quite fresh smelling.

Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the downside, you can cause bacterial vaginosis.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’s life without the occasional infection?

Hi, I am Johnny Disaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummmm…improved?

Anyway, my point is that

by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that the one that can render you sterile?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Needs to get higher up in there. Say Chlamydia (or anything, really) in the tube. But these things do tend to ascend, so yeah, pretty much.

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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/cynical world view

So , what’s the argument against sterility again?

OK if I adopt Randy Johnson?
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 1, 2009 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you would enjoy Omaha as well, except this city still has segregated school districts and an even more raging meth problem.

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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My asshole ex-roommate is from Omaha. Oh, the jokes we played on him…

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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s too bad Oakland’s the only place with a crime problem, then.

And, y’know, last time I checked there had been one murder in like three years in the precinct where I live.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can someone say defensive?

Oh yeah! Well I’m almost underwater! SO THER

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We do have a creek in the neighborhood, but it’s totally dry at the moment.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although my downstairs neighbors did have their license plates stolen a couple of months ago. That was awesome.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the record, I don’t have a problem with this if it means innings at C for Sandoval.

by txgiant on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t like rosterbating anymore. This news is akin to getting gross and/or weird images in your head when you’re…rosterbating, and it kills the whole thing.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

rosterbate…rosterbate…rosterbate…rosterbate.rosterbate.rosterbate.rosterbaterosterbaterosterbate[image of Bea Arhtur plowing Brian Sabean with a large phallic marital aide]ACK!!!!

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll never rosterbate again. :(

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno…right now it seems like it’s better than the real thing.

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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll just spend my time in the minors.

Wait…

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pfft

Not for another 30 minutes at least

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

apparently Sabean doesn’t think we’re rosterbating the right way

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is just wrong, sick & twisted.

I’m glad your here man.

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baseball, cold showers... Baseball, cold showers...

Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day! Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day!

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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, oh God, oh God, uh, uh, uh… dead kittens, dead kittens! Uh, uh, old nuns… uh, really old nuns… uh, Renee Zellweger!

Ah, there we go.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Mar 31, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve actually always had a thing for Renee Z.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 31, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorta…yet not really.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 6 outfielder/1 catcher alignment

only makes sense if a trade is coming. Sending Paulino away so quickly and then keeping only 1 catcher on the roster is sheer lunacy. Frandsen and some of these pitchers they’ve sent down have some value to another team. So to keep myself from laughing at this stupidity, I focus on the possibility that a trade is in the works between now and Opening Day.

Uribe and Aurilia make sense as the primary backups in the infield, given how many positions they can play and their power relative to Frandsen off the bench. And Burriss earned this, and they were giving signs late last season that they wanted to put him at 2B.

But going with 6 outfielders buries Nate even further, and no team can seriously compete with one catcher and your backup being your starting 3B. So, let’s hope Sabean doesn’t blow a good offseason with this move.

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by Buck Henry on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There is no trade coming. There is no plan. There is only the two-and-a-half headed monster that is Sabes/Botch…

Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.

by Little Napoleon on Mar 31, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Future incoming transition from The Big Head ...

" We felt Travis’ bat was a little slow today so we decided to run Velez out at 1st today.."

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe too many plans and too many heads

by daniel9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would it make you happy

If Frandsen and some of the pitchers that got sent down were involved in a trade for a backup catcher? Cause I think that would be the last straw for me.

by AndOnTheDrums... on Mar 31, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the answer is clear...

despite Aurilia and Uribe being on the roster, Nate is the backup 3B

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why you need me.

by The Box on Mar 31, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If you can’t keep the old Sabean out of our hair what use are you?

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES MY GOOD FRIEND.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only explanation I can come up with is they feel they want/need more time to evaluate some of the players on the team, either Perdomo, Torres, Hinshaw, Velez, etc. They have 4 days off during the first 3 weeks so they can probably get away with not needing a back-up for Bengie during that time. They see how they do against real life ML players and dump one at the beginning of May.

Fuck if I know, that’s the best I can come up with. It’s still stupid though.

by AngelWillSaveUs on Mar 31, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just check the schedule, first day off in May is the 18th. No way this roster stays intact by then.

by AngelWillSaveUs on Mar 31, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, they need more time to evaluate…because this Spring Training wasn’t long enough to make a decision

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just checking in to say...

What the fuck.

I talked to Bill Hayes briefly in Peoria over the weekend, and he seemed to think that Holm was the backup. Kinda makes you wonder wtf is going on over there @ 24 WMP.

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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll take this as confirmation that they’re just making this shit up as they go along.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bruce bochy is what's goin on

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by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't punish me with bad roster moves

Marvin Gaye is not pleased.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 31, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is deffinatley “Tainted Love”.

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bochy DOES really wanna hurt me.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s, let’s save the prospects
Let’s save ALL the prospects

SAVE THE BABIES!

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by jponry on Mar 31, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you call him son?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need someone from Wisconsin to explain this to us.

by Evan on Mar 31, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

STEVE HOLM NEEDS TO WORK ON HIS BEING STEVE HOLM!

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 31, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BLOATED HEAD OF SKIPPER STILL AWASH WITH "THOUGHTS" ABOUT ROSTER

NEEDS TO WORK ON SILENCING THE “VOICES” IN HIS OUTSIZED CRANIUM"

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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember last year being concerned that the Giants were going to carry 3 catchers. Anyone else remember that; it sounds fantastic to me now…

by Scottsdale on Mar 31, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha, that’s right. This is one spazzy organization.

by Evan on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And why were they thinking of carrying three catchers last year?

So they could pinch run for Molina more often…

Has Molina gotten a lot faster over the offseason?

Or…wait! Maybe the reason they’re keeping Velez is so he can carry Molina around the bases!

Anyway, my point is that

by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d pay to see that, actually.

by Evan on Mar 31, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bengie’s in the best shape of his life

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008

by Useful_Idiot on Mar 31, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ow…my sides…

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Barry Zito in the starting rotation?

by Scottsdale on Mar 31, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In all seriousness

could they not just dump they guy, eat his salary, and sign some replacement-level starter to take his place? What is the downside there? Is it better to keep the guy just because you’re paying him, all while he makes your team MUCH worse?

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pride.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

are these guys getting paid for pride or paid to win? I’ve never understood why GMs let these fuckers get away with shit like that. And if it’s the GM’s fault, then the owners should pull their heads out of their asses and do something.

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Owners hire GMs; therefore, the owner’s pride is on the line, too. Never forget this.

When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

but the owner should realize that winning is more important than all else- fans don’t give a shit about your pride, they care about their team winning. If you fire your dipshyte GM and you start winning, fans will forget about your pathetic pride

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I agree with you completely. I really really wish that owners were more willing to admit their mistakes. The Donald Sterlings of the world don’t seem to understand that winning is the only reliable way to turn a profit in sports-ownership. I hope Neukom realizes this and doesn’t let inertia get in the way of intelligence.

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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He seems to be a pretty cool guy

all in all, I feel good about SF sports owners right now. The moves the Giants were making looked pretty positive, so we’ll see what Neuk does about this. Jed York seems like he’s on top of stuff too….hopefully

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neuk does seem promising. The Yorks, well, that’s a whole different story. Maybe Jed is the diamond in that family’s rough.

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by cornball on Mar 31, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the Clippers do really well despite almost always being terrible.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Simmons has tickets!

They’re gonna be one of the first teams affected by the recession next year

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but then Sanchez wouldn’t have place in teh Rotation.

Russ Ortiz is not the Run Dingerz.exe we are looking for.

by daveinexile on Mar 31, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PR disaster of unprecedented proportions

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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MUCH worse than Joey Martinez (sorry jponry)? I don’t see anyone in AAA who is clearly better than Zito.

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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RAMON ORTIZ!

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or, go deeper into the minors and let Crawford toe the rubber.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still has a chance!

by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Rogers?

Pedro? Both of them are better than Zito. Not great, but available and still better.

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rogers is a 44-year old who put up a 5.70 ERA last year. Pedro is always injured and will cause us to dip into those imor leaguers who aren’t as good as Zito within a month. Who else you got?

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by groug on Mar 31, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh

I haven’t thought about it too deeply. I just really hate Barry Zito

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barry Zito is not DFA’able yet, who knows by the end of the contract how he’ll be pitching, but he’s still a major league pitcher.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

He’s right about what you expect from a #4ish starter.

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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ughughugh

yes but…just ugh (he makes 18 mil)

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well yeah

but he’s still going to make 18 mil if he’s cut.

He is what he is, the contract is what it is.

Neither is going to get any better from cutting him and signing someone worse.

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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And? You pay him to be a 4ish or someone else to be a 5. Those are your options right now.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SHUT UP WITH YOUR LOGIC

I just know that I’m sick of him! I should be able to have opinions without you stat nerds getting in my way!

/bill simmons

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he can still be the #4/5 pitcher.

by chilibean_3 on Mar 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

because

he’s more valuable than a replacement level starter, and we’re already paying him.

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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

swagger

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 31, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he finds it

Anyway, my point is that

by EliminateMe on Mar 31, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

comment from Baggs' blog made me lul
Neither Medders nor Miller need to clear waivers. They were both signed to minor league contracts and thus are not on the 409 Man Roster and thus do not need to be waived before being assigned to Fresno.

i bet they still only carry 2 catchers on the 409-man roster.

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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And one of them’s Guillermo Rodriguez.

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by jcb9 on Mar 31, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

zing!

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by delorean on Mar 31, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phew…I had to check the roster to see whether he really was still with the team. Not on the roster, is he still in the minors with us?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply