Keith Law looks a Strasburg
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At least he doesn't look a Hapsburg.
Those were some uggos.
Tyler Walker, my son, it's time you left the nest. No seriously. Go.
Wow
This was on the slide list for my art history class yesterday. Romanticism… I feel so cultured!
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
by Useful_Idiot on Mar 24, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
But did you know...
That shadowy figure in the back on the far left, is the artist himself?
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
by Useful_Idiot on Mar 24, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Mar 24, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow, I lol’d. One of the funniest episodes I’ve seen
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
by Useful_Idiot on Mar 24, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that’s for sure. That’s a bad look.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 24, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Thomas Boswell of the Washington Post has an article Armed, but Dangerous. Some highlights:
The history of baseball’s draft since it began in 1965 is unmistakable. You can project exceptional hitters with about a 50 percent success rate. You can’t project No. 1 overall pitchers at all.
Nobody — n-o-b-o-d-y — has used a No. 1 overall pick on a pitcher and been glad they did it. Thirteen teams have tried it since the draft began in 1965. Nine have gotten egg on their faces. The lucky four got Andy Benes (155-139), Tim Belcher (146-140), Mike Moore (161-176) and Floyd Bannister (134-143). No Hall of Famers. Just a bunch of guys who could throw a ball through a wall when they were young but never became great.
If you take a larger sample size, the evidence is even more conclusive. Since ’65, 102 pitchers have been taken within the first five picks. Not one is going to the Hall of Fame. None is close. Only one won more than 200 games (Kevin Brown). Rounding out the top five — Dwight Gooden (194 wins), Bill Gullickson, Moore and Benes. The only reliever of note: ex-Oriole Gregg Olson. Josh Beckett (89-62) may end up high on the list eventually.
“Nobody — n-o-b-o-d-y — has used a No. 1 overall pick on a pitcher and been glad they did it.”
David Price looks pretty good so far, although of course the jury’s still very much out.
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Boswell mentions McDonald, Prior and others have started well. Some even exceptionally well……and then……. The track record is not there he says for pitchers so might as well go the hitting route. Was an interesting read.
That’s interesting to hear from you, wil – I was recently looking back at the draft thread from 2007, and you were like the only guy saying, “Yay, pitching!” at Bumgarner and Alderson, while everyone else was freaking out and wanting dingerz.
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Love pitching and more pitching
Did not know that even Top 5 pick pitching was such a risk. Fortunately Lincecum, Bumgarner and Alderson do not fall in this category. This season we have the #6 pick so must have to start looking at hitters more than pitchers, however, if Strasburg falls SF should determine if they want to pay a high amount.
Lots of interesting tidbits in that article. Really brings meaning to TINSTAAPP
Yes, this draft does seem to be stronger for pitching than for hitting
If by some miracle Strasburg falls to #6 I don’t see how a pitching-loving organization like the Giants can pass on him. That said, I don’t think the Nats will pass on him and face the PR nightmare that would ensue.
But I agree with you that I’d like to see the Giants look more at hitters than pitchers. With some pitchers’ stocks possibly rising (Kyle Gibson, Ryan Berry, Alex Wilson, Mike Leake, Tyler Matzek, Matt Purke) it may force some hitters down to the Giants. Grant Green is off to a poor start and no longer looks like a lock for #2 or 3, but he may not be worth the #6 pick anyway if he doesn’t pick things up soon. Dustin Ackley is a longshot to drop to #6 but if teams question his power enough he could be there for the Giants’ taking. Some other players that should be available, although they could be overdrafts at #6, are Kyle Seager, a power hitting 2B-3B who could fill a need for the Giants, and Rich Poythress, a disciplined power hitting 1B with a great glove, in case the Giants have secret doubts about Villalona within the organization.
The college and prep baseball seasons are still young and other players are bound to rise and fall in the coming months but it sure is fun to speculate about who might be available to the Giants at #6.
by baseballjunkie on Mar 24, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
picking Rich Poythress 6th overall would be absolutely laughable
by FluLikeSymptoms on Mar 25, 2009 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, there have only been 13 pitchers selected #1 overall ever. One of those was Bryan Bullington, who was a joke as the #1 pick – even the Pirates themselves admitted his ceiling was as a third or fourth starter when they picked him.
The track record on #1 overall picks in general was pretty terrible for a long time. The first draft was in 1965, and it wasn’t until 1977 that a #1 pick really turned out to be as good as advertised – that being Harold Baines. There aren’t any #1 overall picks in the Hall of Fame at all, as I recall, though there are some now playing who should change that – Ken Griffey Jr., Chipper Jones, and Alex Rodriguez. Other more recent guys could end up on that level, although it’s hard to say. In general, though, the track record of #1 overall picks has gotten a lot better in the last 15 years or so. Look at the first ten picks:
- Rick Monday
- Steve Chilcott
- Ron Blomberg
- Tim Foli
- Jeff Burroughs
- Mike Ivie
- Danny Goodwin
- Dave Roberts (no, not that one)
- David Clyde
- Bill Almon
vs. the last ten:
- Josh Hamilton
- Adrian Gonzalez
- Joe Mauer
- Bryan Bullington
- Delmon Young
- Matt Bush
- Justin Upton
- Luke Hochevar (who I always want to call Hovechar)
- David Price
- Timothy Beckham
There are still some flops, and some guys who haven’t proven themselves yet, but there are a lot more quality players in recent draft history than early draft history.
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Jeff Burroughs had a long and studly career. So did Rick Monday, but I don’t like Mondays.
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Is it me?
Or does Strasburg use almost all arm in his delivery? I’ll admit I probably have no idea what I’m talking about when it comes to pitch mechanics, but it looks like there’s almost no hips/legs in that delivery.
I don’t know crap about mechanics as well. But to me it looks like (from the side view) that he does have a pretty good drive with his legs and hips, but his torso does look rather vertical.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 24, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I also know jack shit about mechanics
but it also looked to me like he used his lower body quite a bit
by FluLikeSymptoms on Mar 24, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That would probably be why some have raised questions about his injury risk. I came across a blog that wrote up a scouting report on him and they mentioned concern about injury risk. Here: http://projectprospect.com/article/2008/11/22/steven-strasburg-great-or-the-greatest
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 24, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
You all might find this interesting...
mark prior part deux?
link
waiting for 2011....
HE'S NOT MADE OF PORCELAIN
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Mar 25, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Keith Law for showing him while he makes my beloved Dirtbags look foolish. Dirtbags now 7-12 while Fullerton is ranked #1 now by BA. Bad times.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 24, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions
Nevermind, I am wrong. They did not play tonight. LB played San Diego. Still lost.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 24, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m proud of San Jose State doing well so far at 16-4, though the only WAC team in the top 25 is New Mexico State at #24.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 24, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
If they are to be ranked again they will probably have to string a nice winning streak together as their schedule is pretty weak.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 24, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I don’t see them getting into the top 25 because of the schedule. Although they played Dartmouth recently and that was like World War III with me and one of my former bosses. She went to Dartmouth and we were texting each other smacktalk about our teams, haha.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 24, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, BA has NM at #21
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 24, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep but UNM is Mountain West. I think only Ed Jew cares about the Mountain West. :)
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 25, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I stand corrected.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 25, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just about to post this link but decided to look at your link first. Glad I did.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
reply fail.
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by Giant among Angels on Mar 24, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I just watched that video and it was all I could do not to start masturbating
by FluLikeSymptoms on Mar 24, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions
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