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Community Projection: Bengie Molina

When the Giants signed Bengie Molina, he was a consistently low on-base guy with decent power. Add in some good defense from behind the plate, and that’s still a pretty nice player to have. So the..wait, why is my Microsoft Word telling me that last sentence contains an error? Let’s see, right click for the suggested edit, and…

Suggested revision: "that’s still a pretty nice player to have batting seventh or eighth?"

Ah. But that’s not Molina’s fault. To his credit, he’s played the part well, hitting better with two outs and runners in scoring position. Even if that isn’t the kind of stat that stays consistent from year to year, at least we know that the believers in Bengie’s clutch ability aren’t just pulling things out of thin air. He had about 30 more RBI than you’d expect from a hitter with the same number of appearances, but only 50 more runners on base than the average hitter.

And he’s just so danged likable, too. When Pablo Sandoval came up from the minors with momentum like a, uh, panda with a lot of momentum, Molina wasn’t threatened. He said all of the right things, and embraced his newfound competitor. His teammates seem to love him. The broadcasters seem to love him. The fans seem to love him. Everybody loves Bengie!

There’s no way that I can predict more of the same, though. Great guy, great Giant, but bad player to bet on. Catchers age like bananas. You starting thinking about a delicious, yellow banana, but by the time you get to the kitchen, the thing’s a lump of charcoal. And Bengie isn’t the kind of physical specimen that is built for endurance. His knees have to be filled with spray-foam insulation at this point. He is the cleanup hitter, and his 16 home runs somehow led a post-1901 team, but this is the season when it all comes a tumbling down.

Bengie Molina

AB: 396
AVG: .255
OBP: .279
SLG: .352
HR: 9
SB: -2

I want to be wrong. I really, really do.

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I’ve been so wrong about Molina, I don’t know what to say.

AB: 450
AVG: .280
OBP: .310
SLG: .425
HR: 10
SB: 1

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

No whammies!

Bengie Molina

AB: 415
AVG: .265
OBP: .284
SLG: .343
HR: 11
DQ: Blizzard.

If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.

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by Mike Hawk on Mar 2, 2009 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

butterfinger, or oreo?

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 2, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Mmmm now I want an M&M blizzard….

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

AB 480
AVG. 278
OBP. 315
SLG. 435
HR. 14

by out machine on Mar 2, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

You Will Get Your Wish. You Are Wrong.

The Rainman Projections For Bengie Molina

PA/AB 550/510
BB/HBP 22/5
SH/SF 2/11
SB/CS 0/0
1B/2B/3B/HR 96/30/0/17
AVG/OBP/SLG .280/.309/.439
wOBA/wRC .321/61.0

by giantsrainman on Mar 2, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

I like how The Rainman Projections are just you copying real projection systems ^ _ ^

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t make fun of people who do stupid projections because I’m doing a stupid projection too.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

30 2b? really?

I guess he had 30 last year. But that seems like a lot for the fatso

by bondslegend on Mar 2, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

If I was GM

I’d dump Molina like a bad credit default swap

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Mar 2, 2009 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

you’d probably be unable to find a buyer?

I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.

by oldjacket on Mar 2, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I feel like he’s going to fall apart this year too.

AB: 420
AVG: .251
OBP: .289
SLG: .366
HR: 7
SB: over 9000

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by jponry on Mar 2, 2009 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

I'm bearish, too

Diminished production and a DL stint or two.

AB: 368
AVG: .262
OBP: .288
SLG: .358
HR: 5
SB: 1, when the pitcher literally falls asleep at the mound. Molina makes it to second just in time for the catcher to realize what’s going on, run to the mound, get the ball from the pitcher’s hand, and throw to second.

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Body bias!

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by marcello on Mar 2, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

CONTRACT YEAR!

AB: 470
AVG: .311
OBP: .331
SLG: .455
HR: 19
SB: 2

by Hobbes2d on Mar 2, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

If he hits in front of an on-fire Pablo for the whole season then he might be able to reach the 19 HR’s, but I still don’t think so.

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by Giant among Angels on Mar 2, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, people are pretty pessimistic. I don’t think my projection is too optimistic, but it’s a lot more so then many other people’s. I’d be pretty happy non-suicidal if he performed close to what I’m guessing.
AB: 399
AVG: .281
OBP: .304
SLG: .412
HR: 5

by Scottsdale on Mar 2, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

I think it's funny

that our community projection for a cleanup hitter is no more than 10 HR. Is it too late to SIGN MANNY RUN DINGERZ.APP

by bondslegend on Mar 2, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t seen any evidence of Molina’s knees going on him. You’d think we’d have heard things if the wheels were ready to fall off..

I’m predicting he regresses slightly to somewhere between 2007 and 2008. I guess that makes me optimistic (and cute as button):

AB: 500
BA: .285
OBP: 315
SLG: 440
HR: 17

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by Goofus on Mar 2, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Catchers have a tendency to fall apart pretty fast. So, a decline with Molina is probably going to be a sudden OMG HE SUCKS NOW decline.

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I Love How You Seem To Enjoy Cheering For Failure

This is more crow you will be eating at the end of the year.

by giantsrainman on Mar 2, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

He Is Not Cheering For Failure

He is merely excited about Molina’s impending collapse in the hopes that it will clear a roster spot for Jackson Williams in time for him to reach 50 home runs in 2009.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

by Outside The Box Thinking on Mar 2, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Or, could be move Nate back to third base?

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Proposed Lineup

1) Fred Lewis 2B
2) Brian Bocock LF
3) Aaron Rowand 1B
4) Bengie Molina SS
5) Nate Schierholtz 3B
6) Shawon Dunston CF
7) Noah Lowry RF
8) Felix Rodriguez C

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You left off...

…CF Arturo McDowell! Dude has top-of-the-line speed, and defense oozes out of his pores. What could go wrong?

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by Lyle on Mar 2, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Eugenio Velez C

Molina's gonna test his arm...

by Victorious Secret on Mar 2, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow...

the tought of that made me throw up in my mouth a little :-(

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by nvsfg on Mar 3, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

tought =thought. Apparently it made me not able to spell correctly either.

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by nvsfg on Mar 3, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why there’s a box.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been meaning to mention this… Why does WalrusMan have a Basil Fawlty avatar, and bondslegend have a Walrus ?


/just sayin

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by nvsfg on Mar 3, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Goes with my signature, and I like Fawlty Towers.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 3, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Rusty walrus!

Did you miss that animals craze that swept through here awhile back? What were those things called again? I don’t even remember but they were hilarious.

by bondslegend on Mar 3, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Zooperstars

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by Natto on Mar 3, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Peewee Geese FTW!

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by Goofus on Mar 4, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why there’s a box.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I get it, you’re being funny!

Hah-Hah!

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

I think the economy is doing bad. I’ve heard people try to explain why I shouldn’t think it’s doing bad, but I disagree with them. I guess I’m just cheering for failure.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Mar 2, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

You do realize that you and xanthan have basically the same projection, right?

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by marcello on Mar 2, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You Have A Point.

In my defense I didn’t see his projection but rather just his replies to other projections. That said, I was still clearly wrong and therefore I appologize to Xanthan.

by giantsrainman on Mar 2, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s nice of you. I’d never apologize to a computer….

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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by baetown415 on Mar 2, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Computers don’t have feelings.

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by Goofus on Mar 3, 2009 6:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Unless your MP3 collection includes lame 70s songs

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by Goofus on Mar 3, 2009 6:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Or anything by The Smiths.

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by howtheyscored on Mar 3, 2009 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

This is why there’s a box.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand, but it’s not like he’s been relying on sprinter speed to put up the numbers he’s been putting up. I think it would take an injury for him to fall of the cliff. As long as his weight doesn’t balloon, I think he comes into this season pretty much the same player we’ve had the previous two.

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by Goofus on Mar 2, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, and that’s why I said above that I have no idea what to expect from Molina. When he was signed I was expecting him to collapse because of conditioning issues by year two in his deal, but he’s proven me wrong so far.

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s kind of my point. I need more evidence to predict a collapse than “Because he didn’t collapse in 2007 or 2008.”

I wouldn’t call it cheering “Cheering for failure”, but doesn’t his performance over the last two years earn some respect?

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by Goofus on Mar 2, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but catchers in their early-30’s with weight problems are probably a pretty volatile bunch.

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He's 35

Not so early actually.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Mar 2, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

You're both wrong

He’s 34. Turns 35 around the all-star break.

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s closer to 35 than he is to 34. Therefore he is 35.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Mar 2, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It is odd that age is the only number we ALWAYS round down, isn’t it?

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Only if you're old

People under 21 usually round up. 21-25 it depends on the individual. After that you start rounding down. At some point you might just start lying (also true if you’re under 21 and cops are around).

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Mar 2, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I never say I’m 22, I say I’m 21.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

But

that’s more because I love the fact that I can finally drink legally

by bondslegend on Mar 2, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I just say what I am. Fractions killed my best friend, so I refuse to acknowledge them.

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by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Fractions killed my father too.

Well they didn’t kill him, but they hurt him pretty bad.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 3, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

They were trying to kill him. They left him for dead.

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by howtheyscored on Mar 3, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm, my experience is that young’uns round down as a rule, or equivocate by saying, “I’m six and three quarters” or “I’m almost eighteen.” May be a cultural difference, though.

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It could also be a “me puling theories out of your ass” difference.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Mar 2, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, when I hit 27 or 28, I’m sticking with that number for as long as I can pull it off. I haven’t decided which one yet.

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by marcello on Mar 2, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I turned 44 late last year. I was bummed because I could no longer say I’m in my “early 40s”

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by Goofus on Mar 3, 2009 6:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m in my late 40’s. Very late 40’s. Ten years past 40.

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by nvsfg on Mar 3, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD

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by WalrusMan on Mar 3, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

ab: 419
ba: .276
obp: .313
slg: .420
hr: 10

traded at the break for a original issue vinyl version of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 2, 2009 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

:-( Remind me that I want to listen to Magical Mystery Tour but only have it on vinyl and my turntable is still packed up why don’t you.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I am the rainman they are the rainman I am the xanthan CHEER FOR FAILURE GA JOOB

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually as I was driving home I heard “It’s All Too Much” on KFOG, which I now realize is on Yellow Submarine but same situation I’m in because of it.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

For some reason

I can’t stop loling at this

by bondslegend on Mar 2, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you have the German import with real stereo on the B-Side?

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by Sabertooth on Mar 2, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve just got whatever I bought for cheap sometime, so I doubt it. I haven’t actually broken out the vinyl for a while (I left any good ones at home when I went away for a while).

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a friend called

“bittorrent”. He can hook you up until your turntable is freed

by bondslegend on Mar 2, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah.

I try not to bittorrent illegal things (really!) and have only gotten a few things that are commercially available, albait long out of print. (Go laserdiscs!)

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by WalrusMan on Mar 3, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess

you could buy the Beatles cds, but the way I view it, if they haven’t gotten around to getting them online yet, and you own the vinyl already, why should you not be able to have those songs in digital form? If you’d bought the CD, you’d be able to, but since you want the superior sound of vinyl, you can’t. I think that’s stupid.

by bondslegend on Mar 3, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I could (and I have several that I feel were must haves) but I wouldn’t really want them in digital form. I’m just fine listening to an album all the way through, whether there’s a flip in the middle of two sides, or on a full CD, that’s how I listen to my music.

Hopefully the rumored remasters coming out this year are going to have the same sound as the vinyls did, as the 1980s remasters were not great for that.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 3, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

the superior sound of vinyl

I’ve never understood that one. I’m no audiophile, but remember when CDs came out how much cleaner they sounded. To me records have more crackles and pops than a bowl of Rice Crispies.

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by Goofus on Mar 4, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys bittorrent stuff that’s not porn? This concept is new to me.

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by howtheyscored on Mar 3, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 450
BA: .267
OBP: .289
SLG: .430
HR: 11

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by Natto on Mar 2, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

yar

AB: 423
BA: .273
OBP: 315
SLG: 433
HR: 13

I was thinking, in the event that something happens with Bengie where he misses an extended period of time or gets traded, who fills in? Regular at bats for Steve Holm isn’t something I would be interested in, and Pablo ain’t really playing catcher anymore. Does Buster get the call?

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by stealth snail on Mar 2, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

I would hope the Giants would use Sandoval.

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Amen

World without end.

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by Lyle on Mar 2, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny that you would say “Amen”, because it would also mean Jesus would appear before us all.

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by Goofus on Mar 2, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

From Wikipedia

The word Amen ( ; آمين, ’Āmīn ; “So be it; truly”) is a declaration of affirmation found in the Hebrew Bible and New Testament.

Originally Jewish, which means it could be less related to Jesus than you think!

by paboperfecto on Mar 3, 2009 6:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha! Yeah, because Jesus wasn’t Jewish!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 3, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

If not sandoval, I could see Witter and Holm splitting time at C if bengie was out for a month or so. If longer, I think we see Sandoval at C and some combo of Guzman and Uribe at 3rd

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 3, 2009 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Bengie Molina

AB: 477
AVG: .279
OBP: .304
SLG: .352
HR: 13
SB: Nation

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by Lyle on Mar 2, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

#1 GIS result for 'cheering for failure' for some reason

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that oatmeal? Because if so, oatmeal is awesome.

by xanthan on Mar 2, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s vomit. It’s from the video, “One girl, two bowls.”

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by Goofus on Mar 2, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t ask what’s in the wine glass.

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Or what the cork is for

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by Goofus on Mar 2, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

or the spoon

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 2, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually about the spoon….

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

you don’t even wanna know what they did to the table underneath…

Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.

by ResDog on Mar 2, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 404
AVG: .277
OBP: .310
SLG: .430
HR: 15
SB: XIX?

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 2, 2009 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

Molina

Best move Sabean made in the last 5 years?

AB: 450.
AVG: .270.
OBP: .300.
SLG: .410.
HR: 11.
SB: -2.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Mar 2, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

Come to think of it, it probably was, unless you count non-moves like not trading Lincecum for Rios or not re-signing Schmidt. Or maybe draft picks or something, although those aren’t just Sabean’s call.

The end of Mike Matheny’s career proved to be a real boon!

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Strikeouts down

Bengie’s strikeouts were even lower last season, and his homers have been near the highs of his career each of the past two years. That doesn’t sound to me like a hitter I would be overly worried about this season.

by sharksrog on Mar 2, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I may well be wrong in my pessimism, but my default response to a 35 year old chubby catcher is to assume he could collapse at any time.

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Now jcb9 is cheering for failure. Heart failure.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 2, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Last five years

The best move Brian Sabean has made in the past five years was drafting Tim Lincecum. In terms of veteran signings, Bengie would be right up there, although Randy Johnson may turn out pretty well too.

The big thing with Bengie’s hitting hasn’t been the level of his hitting, but rather its timeliness.

by sharksrog on Mar 2, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Dreamy?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Mar 2, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Getting rid of Benitez

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Mar 2, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

But he only did that because the MEANIE POO POO HEAD FANS made him by complaining!!!!!!

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Canceled out by signing Benitez.

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by Natto on Mar 2, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

And not trading Benitez earlier, when he supposedly had marginally more trade value.

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by jcb9 on Mar 2, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice touch with the -2 SB’s. Does this work similar to how he hit a HR last year and wasn’t credited with the run scored?

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Don't F with the Affeldt

by Giant among Angels on Mar 2, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Everybody Loves Money

AB: 380
AVG: .286
OBP: ..299
SLG: .380
HR: 13
SB: 2 (Both from botched hit and runs where the pitch goes juuuuust a bit outside)

by DividedByZero on Mar 2, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 467
AVG: .273
OBP: .309
SLG: .403
HR: 12
SB: 1

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Mar 2, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

Big Money

Molina can not possibly improve upon his 2008. He and Pablo are destined to end rallies more frequently than they will start the. Those two eager, slow-footed hitters, spell out a double play scenario the likes of which have not been seen since AJ Pierzynski, Bonds and Durham from ’04.

by theo2456 on Mar 2, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

Time out!

I’m thinking you’re not being fair to Pablo. He’s not slow-footed. He’s one of those freaky guys who are both chunky and light on their feet. If he’d been born in the U.S., I’d expect to see him playing either FB or RB in the NFL. (Think Bam Morris, Jerome Bettis, Natrone Means or Ironhead Heyward.)

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Mar 2, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

But he’s FAT!

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You only think he’s fat because he can’t play third base!

by Evan on Mar 2, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Third base

at best!

Subpoena Hank Aaron: Drag his butt before congress and let him state, under penalty of perjury, that he never took amphetamines.

by Sabertooth on Mar 2, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Pablito

I know he’s faster than he looks, the point is he won’t be preventing any double plays on the front end with Molina hitting lasers to the short stop. I don’t know if he’s a hit and run candidate while on the bags.

by theo2456 on Mar 2, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

If I’m a middle infielder, I’d be more concerned with Pablo dearing down on me than I would be with Dave Roberts. Plus, he’s a wide body to have to throw around.

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by Goofus on Mar 3, 2009 6:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah!

We should trade both Sandoval and Molina, because they’re slow! We need speedforthewin!!

Think Craig Biggio can still handle catching?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 2, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

More of the same

AB: 487
AVG: .284
OBP: .313
SLG: .448
HR: 18
2B: 24
RBI: 78
SB: nah

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Mar 2, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 500
AVG: .267
OBP: .300
SLG: .400
HR: 11

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Mar 2, 2009 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

Bengie

Avg. .283
OBP .317
Slg .429
HR 13

by HitorMisch on Mar 2, 2009 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 468
AVG: .274
OBP: .299
Slg: .418
HR: 12

by DuikeBuike on Mar 2, 2009 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 433
AVG: .273
OBP: .306
SLG: .406
HR: 13
SB: 2

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Mar 2, 2009 3:35 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 500
AVG: .365 (and batting title)
OBP: .366
SLG: .570
HR: 30
SB: 131

Two things:
1) Suck it, you sub-.300 average guessers!
2) Molina will unleash the legs this year, displaying speed like a hawk swooping on his hapless prey. Molina will best Rickey Henderson! And when it’s all said and done, y’all are gonna be all like, “JR, you were so right! Bengie’s fast and we were wrong!” And I’m gonna be all like, “Yeah!”
Bonus) This might be my dumbest post ever, which is really saying something. So why am I about to hit POST? I don’t know…

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 2, 2009 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

You thought, but nothing happened.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You win the best projection!

(or at least, I hope so)

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Mar 2, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m taking all the money I won when I bet on the Chargers in Super Bowl XXIX and putting it on Bengie for league leader in stolen bases.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 2, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 388
AVG: .264
OBP: .324
SLG: .408
HR: 8

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by WalrusMan on Mar 2, 2009 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 484
AVG: .283
OBP: .308
SLG: .394
HR: 13

"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean

by Smotheredinhugs on Mar 2, 2009 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 455
AVG: .291
OBP: .311
SLG: .422
HR: 15
RBIs: 92

Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.

by SneakToBetterSeats on Mar 2, 2009 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

AVG: .278
OBP: .299
SLG: .409
HR: 11

Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Mar 2, 2009 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 406
AVG: .273
OBP: .305
SLG: .416
HR: 13
3B: 0
SB: 0

by koel on Mar 2, 2009 6:01 PM PST reply actions  

Ummm… not suck?

Yeah… kind of suck.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2009 6:05 PM PST reply actions  

You need to cool it with the fancy baseball terminology. It could be offputting to people without your extensive grasp of sabermetrics.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Mar 2, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh sorry. I’m not trying to be elitist or algo.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 480
AVG: .280
OBP: .303
SLG: .404
HR: 13
SB: 0

I see his knees really start to show the wear and tear from catching 1,000+ games with his big frame.

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by Giant among Angels on Mar 2, 2009 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

Big Money

With the final payoff:

PA: 500
AVG: .279
OBP: .320
SLG: .443
HR: 16 (including 1 inside-the-park HR at home)
SB: 87ish (or maybe 1)

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Mar 2, 2009 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

And then the second baseman and left fielder collide as they’re trying to get to the ball before Molina heads to third

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

by baetown415 on Mar 2, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He trips over the mass of unconscious bodies in the outfield. The 1B runs it down and almost throws Bengie out at the plate.

by lincypoo i wuv u on Mar 2, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ph34R MAH MS PAINT SKILLZ!!

PA: 352
AVG: .268
OBP: .310
SLG: .403
HR: 10

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 2, 2009 7:16 PM PST reply actions  

Looks shopped.

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by Giant among Angels on Mar 2, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I concur. Everybody knows mammals aren’t flammable.

Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
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by S.F. Giangst on Mar 3, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Especially mammals underwater

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by Goofus on Mar 3, 2009 6:29 AM PST up reply actions  

DON’T EVEN TRY IT.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 3, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 460
AVG: .272
OBP: .304
SLG: .424
HR: 16

by lincypoo i wuv u on Mar 2, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 457
AVG: .276
OBP: .308
SLG: .430
HR: 11
SB: 1

AVG w/RISP: .315

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."

by capnk on Mar 2, 2009 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

My projection

He’ll be OK but not that great.

by bondslegend on Mar 2, 2009 9:32 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 426
AVG: .268
OBP: .309
SLG: .398
HR: 11

Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl

by j14 on Mar 2, 2009 10:16 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 468
AVG: .279
OBP: .311
SLG: .431
HR: 14
SB: 1 (Defensive indifference)

Hector Sanchez: learning to play defense from older brother Jackson Williams.

by tedfordfan on Mar 3, 2009 6:45 AM PST reply actions  

I think bengie will begin to decline but it will be masked a bit by being in front or Sandoval (who will scare pitchers with his expansion of the strike zone) and behind Lewis (who will put pressure on the pitcher with his speed).

AB: 458
Avg: .272
OBP: .312
SLG: .439
HR: 15
SB: 0
Doubles stretched into singles: 12

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Mar 3, 2009 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

Take the near blackened banana and make banana bread. Bengie bread?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 3, 2009 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

Baron thinking of making a sandwich out of Bengie?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 3, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG

75 games
300 PA
280 ABs
84 hits for a .300 BA!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 HRs
10 2Bs
1 triple on a grounder to the 421 marker that eludes 2 visiting rookie outfielders

TRADED TO THE ANGELS at the ASB in their futile attempt to overtake the Rangers in the AL west. We get a bunch o’guys and Pablo moves to catcher and JESUS GUZMAN makes it to the bigs and hits a whole pile o’homers.

(btw, Bengie collapses after that early season off-the-charts power display and doesn’t play in August and September)

Todos somos Gigantes

by MarkOC on Mar 3, 2009 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

I'm with Grant to a lesser degree

AB: 421
AVG: .267
OBA: .297
SLG: .396
HR: 11

  1. of games not in the cleanup spot: 11

by NeifiChicken on Mar 3, 2009 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

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