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Um, yay? I feel kinda bad, but I'd rather he went somewhere else.
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I’m hoping someone in the Giants FO can talk Richie into retiring before the end of Spring Training. That would be the best of all worlds.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
Win-win
Minor league deal. He’ll have to produce to make the team. Even though it’s Bochy we’re talking about, he’d have to bump someone off the 40-man to make the team, so he’s no lock.
If he has a poor Spring, Ihe can retire a Giant.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
Which leads to a different topic for me. Of the late 90’s – early ought clubs who do we think are enough of a Good Giants ™ to merit the wall?
Bonds is a no doubt.
Aurilia should be there in my mind considering not just his career but who the Giants traded to get him links him to the ’92 squad.
Ray- I would not complain about too much (not a small thing from me) though I personally would not advocate him.
JT – A fan favorite but also kind of a symbol of our problems as well. I could take or leave it though.
Feliz- Also symbolic of what didn’t work in that period. But I never saw him not do what the team asked or sulk. I might be a lone here but I would be favorable to his name eventually being there.
Kent ? – I would be more inclined to naming a car wash after him but maybe I am being too grumpy.
Anyone else I am missing?
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Jason Schmidt deserves a place despite signing with the Dodgers later on. Same for Bill Mueller.
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OH DUH
Ellis Burks is a must-have.
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Burks is interesting. It 2+ seasons here long enough though?
Mueller though was not considered important enough to keep once he neared free agency. And unlike Aurilia he never had a return engagement of any note.
Schmidt gets huge negative points for choosing to go directly wear that awful shade of blue in my book. Call it the Butler effect if you will. But as with Kent I might be guilty of being too grumpy right now.
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Depends on who else is on the wall
Who makes it from decades past? HOFers obviously, but does Darrell Evans? John Burkett? Jim Ray Hart? We need criteria.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Feb 9, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Stated Criteria are:
He’s retired.
He played at least nine seasons in San Francisco.
Or, he played five years as a Giant and made at least one National League All-Star team.
LeMaster made it so it is obviously not only about elite players.
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Names lifted from the bottom of the linked article:
Felipe Alou, Vida Blue, Bob Bolin, Orlando Cepeda, Jim Davenport, Darrell Evans, Tito Fuentes, Atlee Hammaker, Mike Krukow, Gary Lavelle, Kirt Manwaring, Willie Mays, Mike McCormick, Willie McCovey, Greg Minton, Kevin Mitchell, Robb Nen, Gaylord Perry, Kirk Rueter, J.T. Snow, Robby Thompson and Matt Williams.
Jim Barr, Rod Beck, Jeff Brantley, Bobby Bonds, Bob Brenly, John Burkett, Jack Clark, Will Clark, Chili Davis, Dick Dietz, Scott Garrelts, Tom Haller, Jim Ray Hart, Johnnie LeMaster, Jeffrey Leonard, Juan Marichal, Stu Miller, Randy Moffitt, John Montefusco, Rick Reuschel and Chris Speier.
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Okay, in that case, none of my guys qualify for the second criteria. Neither do Feliz, Kent, or Durham.
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Duh, duh, duh, I missed he All Star criteria. Kent would qualify then.
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But seriously, if Johnnie LeMaster, Jeff Brantley, and Kirt Manwaring qualify, so should Ellis Burks. He wasn’t a Giant for long, but he was a key part of a big Giants team.
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Regarding Burks l I don’t see Uribe on there and he was pivotal to the 87 run and important in 89.Or Morgan or Butler or Swift. All of whom played important roles in their Giants squads.
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Joe Morgan’s Giants hovered around .500 one year and finished in third place (though in contention) the other. Uribe…I liked him, but I don’t think he came even close to being the player Ellis Burks was.
I’d be happy to see Butler or Swift make it.
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Well the argument for all these players is there positive impact on the team out weighted the short time and numbers would suggest to a casual observer – No?
Don’t get me as advocating these players should be there just saying in that category (or type of player) there are memebers getting the same treatment.
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One thing is indisputable: the fact that Johnnie LeMaster was a Giant for a decade is a reminder that things could be much, much worse.
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/ nods nods
It highlights one of the things a like about the wall (and baseball in general) just because it is a crappy time does not mean there are not outstanding, defining efforts. Just not all efforts our Coopertown worthy does not mean they are worthless.
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Your right Feliz is a year short. That fine I realize popular opinion would block that any ways.
Schimdt has 5 years and an All Star appearance so he qualifies.
Ray has the 5 years though his All Star games were for AL teams. I think an argument can be made for him if they are going to count non Giant NL all star appearances.
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If he gets another 400 ABs next season I’ll be :(
Also, I’m expecting to read the WE CAN TRADE HIM AT THE DEADLINE 4 PROSPECTS on the SFGiants.com Fan Forum.
I’ll be more than :(
My level of rage if this happens will best be described as jcb9-ian.
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 9, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Okay. We have a decent number of Plan Bs (Plans B?) at the corners now.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
Uribe. That was a short debate.
But Aurilia will be around in ST in case Pablito’s 3B defense makes people go D:
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
I want to return to the Velez at third base experiment from last Spring Training that last like 1.5 games.
The proper plural of Plan B is...
…Plans Batted In.
Would Aurilia actually go to Fresno if he doesn’t make the team out of ST? Or would the Giants cut him loose so he can try to catch on somewhere else?
As a potential replacement in case of injury, I like it. Beats having to call up single-A players who are clearly not ready for the majors.
As a part of the opening day roster…especially assuing Uribe’s there too…not so much.
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I think they’d release him if he doesn’t make the team, but I’d bet he retires as opposed to scrounging around.
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Seems likely.
But maybe if they told him he’s the first guy up in case of infield injury/trade…
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I’d say, “I’ll stay in shapre, but won’t ride buses. You have my number.”
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I don't know why they'd want your number, Goofus...
…and I don’t even want to know what being “in shapre” means.
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I’ll be kind of :\\\\\\ if he makes the team over Phelps. Which is probably going to happen. So, :\\\\\\\
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
what does :\\\ mean? It looks like someone eating a stack of pancakes.
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I WISH IT WAS PANCAKES
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French toast beats both.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 9, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Waffles.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 9, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Another thing. Hit someone with a waffle iron and you can hurt them more than you can with a pan.
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That is a good point.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 9, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I’m more of a pancake guy, but I rarely hae either. My most common breakfasts are quesadillas, fried eggs, or whatever leftovers we have in the fridge from last night’s dinner.
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hahah
That was my avatar when I played online poker.
“Waffles” in (some) hold’em parlance are two random cards (like 8s or 10s) where the pips look sort of waffle-y-esque
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How I break it down: Your average waffle is far superior to your average pancake, and your prototypical french toast. However, both pancakes and French toast can be tweaked into something far tastier (cornmeal pancakes? Hell yeah! Irish Cream instead of milk in your French toast batter? Sign me up!).
If I’m at a low rent place, I go for the waffle. If I’m at a more frou-frou breakfast place, more likely to go for the FT or pancakes.
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I think the waffle has advantages based purely on it’s design. Little pockets of hot syrup and melted butter. Does it get any better?
man, I just love plain old pancakes with just a bit of butter melted on top. perfect breakfast for me. everything else gets too complicated at times (not that I don’t enjoy waffles as well.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Sign that I'm an evil communist who hates America
I don’t like butter.
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UNAMERICAN
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I hope
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My adopted son Matt Downs . Utility Infielder with a Bat !
Good lord.
Whatever do you put on your toast?
Please don’t tell me you don’t eat toast.
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Sometimes jam, sometimes honey.
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Good to know you do eat toast.
But I told you before not to call me “honey” in public.
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if you're like me and use Bisquick
they both taste the same, one’s just crispier :)
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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 9, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Yes! Roscoe's FTW
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 9, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
I love the ROFL house
Well if it’s chicken and waffles then that’s another story.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 9, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Tusks,
This should have been a Fanpost. :-)
I’ll bet 10 people try to post it as a Fan Post, especially if the annoucement is official. It’ll be fun to try to delete them all before they get commented up.
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Sigh.
Sabean is officially falling back on his old habit Moderate-To-Low-Priced-Mediocre-Veteran-Love. Just watch him sign Crede, too.
I say this as someone who’s been an Aurilia fan since 1995. As I’ve said before, I was hoping 2008 would be his final year as a Giant. Better to leave things on a mostly positive note than to keep bringing him back until he falls to pieces and leaves us with a bad taste in his mouth.
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I dunno if you can call this (or Uribe who is pretty much the same) “Moderate-To-Low-Priced-Mediocre-Veteran-Love.” If Aurilia performs, then he makes a low amount of money to be a backup. If he doesn’t, he doesn’t.
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With these signings, predict Bochy's preferred starting lineup
1) Dave Roberts LF
2) Randy Winn RF
3) Aaron Rowand CF
4) Joe Crede 3B
5) Bengie Molina C
6) Rich Aurilia 1B
7) Edgar Renteria SS
8) Juan Uribe 2B
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brb drinking myself to death in my bathtub
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 9, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
O.K. you can stop being a vector for extreme barely controllable rage now.
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FORTUNATELY
That lineup tore 4 hamstrings and pulled a groin in batting practice.
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OMG !! MY EYES !! MAKE HIM STOP !! MAKE HIM STOP !!
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Set the wayback machine for 2006...
…and that might actually be a decent lineup.
Even better if you could set half the lineup for 2006 and the other half for 2004.
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Well he competes with Uribe for infield utility
I won’t start crying doomsday until I see how he does in ST.
Though I am pretty nervous now.
Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.
at least
I still have an adopted Giants to root for, so I’m all for it!
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
I'm curious...
If Aurilia hit .800-850 OPS in 200 ABs, mostly against lefties, would this deal still enrage you? This is his line last year against lefties:
.321 / .377 / .526
This is career:
.297 / .364 / .494
If Phelps were a 24-year-old and Richie won a job over him, that’s one thing. But Phelps is 31. We’re acting as if he’s a can’t miss kid who’s about to get screwed by the Giants. He’s a has-been. If he rips it up in camp, fine, but a roster spot is not his birthright.
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The only thing Aurilia has over Phelps is that he can play a few other positions. In terms of hitting, I’ll take Phelps every day of the week.
iawtc
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ZIPs projections
Phelps: .273/.339/.457
Aurilia: .268/.318/.374
not much of a comparison.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Other projections by wOBAs
CHONE
Phelps: .355
Aurilia: .311
Marcel
Phelps: .346
Aurilia: .319
Oliver
Phelps: .349
Aurilia: .328
so, one out of five so far has them even close.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
To clarify a little
I’d rather take Phelps on the balance because I feel like his reasonable best case scenario is better than Aurilia’s. I think Aurilia would be the right move if the Giants were feeling risk averse, but I don’t really think an 83 win team should be risk averse.
I wouldn’t really get worked up either way though.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
Phelps is in the mid-thirties, Aurilia in the mid-twenties.
Remember Phelps has a pretty extreme set of old-player skills, and the dude falls out of bed striking out.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
I already downloaded the projections, so I may not resub as well. The writing is just not that good anymore.
(I’d be happy to send them to you, if you want).
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
I’ve been a little disappointed with BP. I’ve mainly been a subscriber for Kevin Goldstein but my subscription expired after he posted his Giants list and I just didn’t feel any need to renew.
(No need to send the spreadsheet, I’ve got it on my home laptop!)
I generally like Will Carroll’s stuff too, but Fangraphs has better writing for free.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
Yeah, and the bulk of their stat system WARP, FRAA/FRAR really has been surpassed. BP has supposedly been working on a “better fielding metric” for like the last four years it seems.
FRAA/FRAR is based on range factor, right? or is that still just a rumor?
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Here’s his line against lefties in 2007:
.240 / .265 / .411
Like I’ve said, I love Aurilia, but I have two reasons for not liking this: first, I don’t think the team really needs him. Second, after his terrible return season in 2007, I ended up kind of hating his presence on the team and wishing he’d never come back. He redeemed himself in 2008, and I wish that was the way things were left. Now, I fear he’ll come back, stink it up for a few months, get released, and our last memory of this Good Giant will be how he wasted a roster spot for much of 2009.
I very much hope I’m wrong, though.
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the fascination with Phelps around here has really puzzled me
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 9, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I Can't Stop Thinking About Josh Phelps
Hey man, it’s the offseason. What else are we going to do!
Now, let’s talk about the prospects of Scott McClain…
WE COULD TALK ABOUT MANNY RAMIRES OR JOE CREEDEE OR TRADING MATT CAIN FOR PRINCE FIELDER Y WONT U TALK ABOUT THIS Y WONT SABES DO THESE TRADES OMG SABES WHAT R U DOIN!!??!?!?!??!
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This is an actual comment from Fox Sports’ Website:
i agree, Sabean has done absolutely nothing in the off-season to improve the hitting….fire that ####….
Or, how about this one from SFGiants.com:
Joe Crede is a bust. The Giants should have signed Eric Hinske (good goin PITT) – if the are looking at second tier corner infielders- he is a grinder & been on winners, has pop & a better glove. Sabe’s missed the boat on that one. Could see a Noah Lowry/Velez for Hank Blalock/Brandon Boggs by end of May.
lol grinder.
Or maybe this one?
IF THE GIANTS SIGN, CREDE.AURILIA.INSTEAD OF MANNY RAMIREZ ,THEN THEYRE NOT ONLY CHEAP ,THEYRE NUTS.
RAGE
These things are gold. I always have trouble thinking that real, living, actual people wrote them.
Grinder means he gives really….um…sincere hugs.
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 9, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Which leads to the question: If Eric Hinske was a lunch meat, what lunch meat would he be?
I say honey ham.
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Tim Lincecum is cracked pepper turkey breast—the best (meat) there is.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 9, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yes Krukow?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 9, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Jon Miller would be prosciutto.
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he would be some sort of pretentious spanish meat.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
by oldjacket on Feb 9, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Y'know
I don’t think I’ve ever had one of my comments turn green. I’ll just have to keep dreaming the dream…
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by jcb9 on Feb 9, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
0/7910 = .000 batting average.
WORSE THAN KIM BATISTE AND BRAD WELLMAN COMBINED!
Sob.
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Which reminds me
I was doing a search the other day, and I think that I was responsible for something like 20 of the 26 mentions of Kim Batiste of McCovey Chronicles. Of all the shitty players I’m obsessed with, he’s got to top the list.
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even when you were more right than anyone in the history of the internet?
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
Chorizo?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 9, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Chorizo isn't pretentious
It’s a liquid meat tube and my hipster ex-GF turned her nose up at it.
I can’t really think of any Spanish meat that could be considered pretentious.
I'm spent, just can't rosterbate anymore.
I mean, Phelps is a nice pickup for what he is, a backup 1B with some power, but he is 31 years old, he has absolutely no future with the Giants (or any other MLB team). If he gets 300 ABs, great, if he doesn’t and those 300 ABs go to somebody else, who gives a rat’s ass?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 9, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
All true. Also true is part of the Fan base has been wanting management to take this type of risk for several years. Finally we have been obliged for once.
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what type of risk? Signing a washed up 31 year old to a minor league contract is a risk?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 9, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
He’s old enough to know what’s right and young enough not to choose it.
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 9, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
The problem is that Phelps is still unlikely to get a roster spot even if he deserves it in spring training.
I don’t think anyone is saying he should get the job if he bats .220/.280/.360, while Aurilia bats .280/.320/.440.
It’s just that if Aurilia bats .220/.280/.360, and Phelps bats .280/.320/.440, then Aurilia will still most likely get the roster spot.
I think most Phelps supporters just want him to get the job if he actually outperforms Aurilia, which most of us think is likely to happen.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 9, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt Aurilia gets the roster spot if he and Phelps put those lines up. Probably, if all three of Uribe, Aurilia, and Phelps put up .220/.280/.360 lines then Aurilia gets the nod just for being with the org for longer. But probably the three of them are fighting for one roster spot and the best stats gets it.
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Maybe that was a bit of a stretch...
But let’s say that Aurilia bats .260/.310/.420 with 2 homeruns, while Phelps bats .280/.330/.450 with 5 homeruns.
Aurilia would likely get the job, based on Bochy’s hard-on for veterans and Sabean’s hard-on for familiar players.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 10, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s really the thing, isn’t it? If he is truly used in the way leftymalo describes above, that wouldn’t be too bad and could be pretty useful, but what are the odds of that happening?
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Can’t say i really understand the need for bringing back Aurilia, given the others we have. If used sensibly, as competing for a spot in spring training & a backup & occasional starter against LHP then i’m ok with it. If he’s the starter at any point, then it’ll be pretty dissapointing.
It’s a shame that you have to worry about perfectly reasonable moves, because you’ve little confidence in the manager to use them properly.
Proud owner of the most boring Username! Alex Hinshaw: Now showing in a bullpen near you!
oops how did I miss this
Anyways, I’d be pretty happy about it if our manager wasn’t retarded. But with Bochy he’ll probably end up stealing AB’s from Pablo and maybe even forcing TI down. Still, though, he’s a useful player and a good signing if he’s used right.
Dear TI, Pablito and Bengie…
Please stay healthy and have a great spring training.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below.500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
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