Underappreciated Giants: Volume Four
by Grant on Feb 4, 2009 1:29 PM PST
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Remember, the Clio-winning Underappreciated Giants series takes a look back at players. We’re not really interested in what the players did after their careers were over. If, for example, a player became an on-air personality that makes you want to take a miter saw to your inner ear, that would be irrelevant to this discussion. Full disclosure: I’ve never had a problem with this Underappreciated Giant in the broadcast booth. I also enjoy the wacky, big-haired stylings of Eric Byrnes, too. I’m not going to let some unwashed, faceless internet collective control my likes and dislikes. Take your faux outrage and shove it. If you could please click on an ad before you leave, though, that would be a big help.
Back to the subject of the post. The 1999 Giants finished in second place, behind a Diamondbacks team that featured all-time greats Jay Bell and Luis Gonzalez. Remember, though, that only Barry Bonds took any sort of PEDs. Certainly not Bell or Gonzalez. Whoops, how did that hyperlink get there? This isn’t TMZ. I’m not in the business of scurrilous rumors. Forget that you ever clicked on it and formed an opinion based on a single photograph. Players wake up after they turn 30 and discover that they’re superhuman hitters all the time.
Back to the subject of the post. In 1999, the era of the Great Internet Baseball Nerd Enlightenment was under way. People got all excited about walks and on-base percentages, and they paid attention to players who earlier might have escaped notice. F.P. Santangelo wanted to get on base. He didn’t care if he walked, got drilled in the face, or hit a bloop single; he wanted on base. He led the team in HBP, and he had one of the ten best walk-to-plate appearances ratio in the league among players with more than 200 plate appearances. Heck, he even worked in a catcher’s interference call for good measure.
Santangelo was gritty this, gamer that, blah blah blah, and his managers loved the gritty gamerness of the gritty sparkplug of a utility player who was gritty. Oh, and blue-collar. Oh, and who knew what it took to win. Oh, and gritty. Oh, and ‘roided up to the gills. I didn’t care about the mythology of the gritty, gritty utility player. I just enjoyed that the Giants had a player on their bench who walked up to the plate thinking only about how he was going to get on base. It was a nice card to be able to play in the late innings.
Santangelo played six positions for the Giants that year, so he gave Dusty Baker all kinds of flexibility. No one in the starting lineup was bad enough to pinch-hit for in close situations, so a lot of Santangelo’s value came with his ability to spot-start for everyone in the outfield or infield. He’d usually hit at the top of the order, and he knew that his job was to stick an elbow out when Ellis Burks was on deck, or when Barry Bonds was in the hole. He wanted to crouch down, Rickey-style, and work a walk in every at-bat. Every bench should have a guy like that. Every minor league system should have ten non-prospects trying to be that one guy.
Then Santangelo left for the Dodgers, and his soul molded up like a four-month-old orange. Because his decision made God hate him, Santangelo never hit above .200 again, and he was out of the league just two years later. For one year, though, the Giants had a bench player whose walks brought all the OBP-fetishists to the yard. There really hasn’t been another benchie like him since then. Will Juan Uribe play six positions and finish with an on-base percentage over .400? Only time will tell.
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I love that Gonzo picture. His arms look like a road map.
Also,
/tells player stories
by xanthan on Feb 4, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Copenhagen Against Gonzo
Giant Dirtbags: Brian Anderson, Todd Jennings, Steve Hammond, John Bowker
Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Feb 4, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate played for Chabot in Hayward, not Laney in Oakland
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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Feb 4, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always really liked Santangelo as a player, even when he was on an Expo. I have a thing for guys who can play 10,000 positions. I had a soft spot for Greg Litton for similar reasons – once, in the Hall of Fame Game, he played one inning at each position. That’s all kinds of awesome.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ah-ha!
I always knew FP Santangelo was a fish-person!
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by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
FPs baseball card
Hometown: Innsmouth, MA
Height: 7’
Weight: 250
Bats: Right Fin
Throws: Left Flipper
Mouth: Sphinctered
Religion: DAGON, baby!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
by natteringnabob on Feb 5, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IT"S NOT WHAT THOSE
`SANTAGELOS HAVE DONE IT"S WHUT THEY"S GONNA DO!!!!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
by zenbitz on Feb 6, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s also worth noting that F.P. Santangelo is one of my favorite baseball names of all time.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s a matter of record that my favorite is Rance Mulliniks, but Stubby Clapp, Tsuyoshi Shinjo, William Van Landingham, Alejandro Friere, Rusty Staubb, Herm Winningham, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Rikkert Faneyte, Early Wynn, Grover Cleveland Alexander, and Mordecai “Three Finger” Brown are all fine names as well.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stubby Clapp is a great name. Your list needs more Rusty Kuntz!
by xanthan on Feb 4, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just looked up the fanpost I made about great names back during the season, and you mentioned him there, too!
Rusty Kuntz + Dick Pole = 2gether 4ever
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve always wondered about people with names like that, though. If my last name was Kuntz, I might go by Russ. If my last name was Pole, I might stick with Ricky.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I once was a ring judge with a head judge whose name was Dickson Koontz. He was a really nice guy, but not difficult to figure out why he became a martial arts master…
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 4, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do wonder about people whose last name is Rothenbush. I can just imagine the teasing, especially for girls.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 4, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
another good one
(and apropos to the topic of F.P.) the former leader of the World Anti-doping Agency’s name is Dick Pound
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 4, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s also a politician named Dick Armey.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Annie Baby
pound it pound it pound it pound it pound it pound it
by bondo on Feb 4, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There was a talk radio host in Santa Cruz named…Dick Little.
by Louis XVI on Feb 4, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that’s actually Yu Darvish.
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by marcello on Feb 4, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How does he play that well for that stretch and not show up again?
by cheno on Feb 4, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I alwaus liked Boog Powell
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by Goofus on Feb 4, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
off topic
but… I love the fact that National Signing Day took down the SB Nation server briefly. Great class for the Bruins!
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 4, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fuck the Bruins.
Sorry. Proceed.
You probably know it as MYANMAR, but it will always be BURMA to me!
by NuschlerFace on Feb 4, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least you guys are being polite about it.
Fuck off, please.
After you fuck off.
Well thank you, fucker.
by chilibean_3 on Feb 4, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Quite
Sir I believe you are a horse’s ass.
Excuse me good sir but you are the one who is a bastard.
I beg your pardon but would you kindly shove it up your ass? Thank you.
etc
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 4, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i still prefer galactic fucktard. i saw that here a couple of weeks ago. who gets credit for it ?
by giantdonkey on Feb 4, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YO
I’m honored to contribute to the fine discourse around here
by bondslegend on Feb 4, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bite my thumb.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But do you bite your thumb at me, sir?
Okay, this could go on for a while. Blah blah, more thumb-biting, a Capulet kills a Montague. Incidentally, this is my favorite scene in the play. It is quite hilarious, especially in the Luhrmann screen version, but still very funny in more traditional renditions.
by cornball on Feb 4, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Romeo & Juliet": Dumbest. Play. Ever.
I love me some Shakespeare (even have some credentials to that effect), but oh lord, this is the dumbest play ever. The first annoying thing is that Romeo is passionately “in love” with whomever that chick was in the first act, then she dumps him, he sees another girl (Juliet), and, no, wait, NOW he’s REALLY in love. Well, that’s adolescent horsecrap. He is, after all, 15 in the play and Juliet is 13, so it’s fine… but why on earth do ADULTS hold up this play as the epic of romantic love when it is a total cliche of adolescent infatuation?
Ok, so there’s that crappy foundation, but let’s go to the crappiness of the story. Two kids from feuding families fall in love and have a perfectly viable plan to leave town and be together. Fine. But then they randomly decide to run the plan by a priest for his opinion. The priest says, “Gee, kids, that’s a decent plan— no, wait! Let’s just throw this one little wrinkle into it! Drink fake poison and fake your own deaths! ’Tis crazy enow, it just might service.” Of course, the only funny thing besides the ‘bite thumb’ sequence is that the kids screw up the execution and have an accidental poisoning then a suicide in reaction. Again, typical adolescent over-reaction to everything. Frankly, it’s what you get for listening to priests. (And, um, not for nothing, but what exactly is the moral authority of a priest to advise staging a giagantic lie for the town? Nice going there, Churchy McChurcherson.)
It isn’t Shakespeare’s fault that subsequent dozens of generations have mistaken this play for the epitome of romantic love (I believe because they forget that Romeo is 15 and Juliet is 13, and thus callowness all around).
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by Mayor of 311 on Feb 5, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I wish you’d take a stand on one side or the other
by bondslegend on Feb 5, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. I also think FP Santangelo is terrible as an announcer.
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by Mayor of 311 on Feb 5, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, etiquette fix: SPOILER ALERT! The kids both die at the end of this crappy play.
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by Mayor of 311 on Feb 5, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But if Romeo and Juliet had never been written, they never would have made Tromeo and Juliet.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Feb 5, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
…and there would be no romeosexuals.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Feb 5, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think her name was Rosalyn, or Rolyland, or something to that effect.
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by howtheyscored on Feb 5, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
F.P. in the booth
Did anyone else notice that Santangelo was much better as a broadcaster last year? He seemed infinitely more comfortable and relaxed and witty in 2009 than any other year before. I always thought he was annoying, but last year he made the jump to actually good.
A while after I noticed it, someone on KNBR (Barbieri, I think) complimented him by saying that he had improved by leaps and bounds and he said something to the effect of “Yeah, I’m not sure what to say, but one day it just clicked.”
by sfmaynard on Feb 4, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, if Ralph Barbieri gave his seal of approval, I may have to rethink things!
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have already written him off as being terrible so I probably wouldn’t have noticed much if he improved last year. The one thing that made me lose all respect for him as a broadcaster (or any chance that I might have someday developed some respect) was a few years ago at the trade deadline when A.J. Burnett was a free agent to be and there were a lot of rumors of him possibly being traded I heard F.P. on the radio say “the Giants are watching A.J. Burnett closely” which was an absolute lie and something he obviously just completely made up. You have to have some modicum of credibility, you can’t just make things up (ask Dan Rather).
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 4, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
by “it just clicked,” he obviously meant “i just started taking radio ’roids.”
by druncan on Feb 4, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone should look for a thesaurus in his desk.
by cornball on Feb 4, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re called ’roidios.
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by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean...
he’ll regress back to his career norm this coming season?
by The Double Deuce on Feb 5, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to keep thinking about FP! I just can’t.
He was a Dodger. The smell of ass permeates his very soul.
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 4, 2009 2:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t stop not thinking about F.P.!
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by Goofus on Feb 4, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where does the whole “I can’t stop thinking about….” thing come from, anyway?
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, I forgot about that post. I guess I can stop thinking about it.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn.
I was ctrl+Fing that thing to find jcb9 so we could have another Jerome Williams moment. It was not to be. :-(
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by WalrusMan on Feb 4, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why I like the McCoven: we’re far more offended that he was a Dodger than that he admitted to taking HGH.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 2:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, it is a federal offense.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Former Dodgers
#82 on USA Today’s 100 Names You Need to Know: Travis Denker
82. Travis Denker, 2B, Padres: It’s been a whirlwind tour of the NL West for Denker. Originally drafted by the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2003, he was traded to the San Francisco Giants in August 2007. San Francisco called up the 23-year-old midseason in 2008, and he did fairly well before being sent back down to Class AAA Fresno, where he put together a solid year. Still, the Giants made him available, and the Padres scooped Denker off the waiver wire in October. Denker has shown some pop at the plate but doesn’t have much speed, and his defense is average at best.
Also,
Pablo is #4
TI is #23
Nate is #57 (and he’s listed as OF/1B!)
Buster is #80.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 4, 2009 2:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
TI is #23
Nate is #57 (and he’s listed as OF/1B!)
sounds like this list has a lot of credibility
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 4, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that doesn’t mean it can’t be the source of amusement!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 4, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not just list all of his positions?
OF/1B/3B/AAA
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by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I never understood why they didn't just keep Nate at 3b.
Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on Feb 4, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, he hit like .600 as a 3B at Laney College (note: this was actually mentioned on a message board – Extra Baggs I believe – as evidence that he can play 3B)
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 4, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some pop FTW!
But PWEI if you take your eye off it for a second.
This just in...Bobby Estalella can apply oral suction to a deceased pack animal's penile extremity.
by victor frankenstein on Feb 4, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
PWEI = not a valid Scrabble word
LWEI, however, is.
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum" = TENSE, CLIMACTIC, TRIUMPHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Feb 5, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate played for Chabot in Hayward, not Laney in Oakland. (unless he transferred?)
Side note: He hit 2 hrs and got got robbed of a HR in one game against me and my JUCO squad in 2002 or 2003(?)
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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Feb 4, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Was he playing 3rd? He should try it again?
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by WalrusMan on Feb 5, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont recall….sorry.
Before the game, my coach pointed him out as a stud, and ….well…. he was right. Needless to say, the next time we played them he received the unintentional-intentional walk treatment,
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Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Feb 5, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fightin' Hydrants
Also, FP was one of the Fightin’ Hydrants, along with Marvin Benard and Armando Rios. Krukow had a lot of fun with that nickname. (But then, Krukow has fun with pretty much everything…)
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by EliminateMe on Feb 4, 2009 2:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was pretty sad Armando Rios didn’t turn out to be much of anything. He got off to a great start as a Giant. Plus he once hit a home run about three feet away from me.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I always liked Rios but I wasn’t shocked when it turned out he roiding. He was like 5’7" of nothing but muscle.
by xanthan on Feb 4, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was like 5’7" of nothing but muscle.
That sounds like me.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you strike the words “but muscle”, it does.
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by EliminateMe on Feb 4, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or
He was like 5’7" of nothing but muscle failbeard.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason, if you Google Image Search failbeard, this is one of the things that comes up:
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fail-hulk-boxing1.jpg
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/waits for howtheyscored to photoshop his and Grant’s heads onto the bodies.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I try not to be too creepy in any given week. And I think I’ve already hit my quota for this week.
Though if jponry asks nicely, I can post the picture of me where I’m staring into your souls that she likes so much.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/Waits for Grant to do the Photoshop instead.
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a creepiness quota?
And you haven’t already burned through your full allocation until the end of Zito’s contract?
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by EliminateMe on Feb 4, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
:
)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Feb 4, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YESSSSSSSS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Feb 4, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JP and Howwie…..
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by WalrusMan on Feb 5, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s what’s commonly referred to as the “all-natural mutton chop.”
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by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Organic mutton!
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by EliminateMe on Feb 5, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You make me sad.
To be fair, only the right side is truly failing. I’d put the left side firmly in the D / D+ range.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could have a D/D+ beard. I’d say my chin is in the D- range though.
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by WalrusMan on Feb 4, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If only I had connectors, I could bring mine up to a solid D+.
by cornball on Feb 4, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. Howie’s butt muscle is always the topic of lively conversation.
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by Goofus on Feb 4, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do often hear people say, “What an ass!” when talking about me.
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by howtheyscored on Feb 4, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True story...
I went to get a cup of coffee at work on Monday and overheard a piece of conversation as I entered the break room. It was “…I emailed him and called him a dork”.
I just blurted out, “I get email calling me a dork all the time”.
And this young lady that I don’t even know says, “That’s because you are a dork”.
=/
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 4, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You should have thrown your hot coffee on her!
by xanthan on Feb 4, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But not before rolling a few of these
And yelling I CAST MAGIC COFFEE
by xanthan on Feb 4, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Judy’s back!
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by jcb9 on Feb 4, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I figured that with baseball season getting close, it was time to dust her off. It’s not baseball without JUDY STEFFES!
by xanthan on Feb 4, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ALMOST TIME TO WORK ON THROWING FOR SPRING PRACTICE.
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 4, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In retrospect, should they have been called the Fightin’ Hydroids?
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by Goofus on Feb 4, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FP is okay with me. He could play anywhere and was a pretty smart player. His talents probably don’t extend to broadcasting, but I am not one of those guys who has an aneurism over every stupid comment someone makes. There is just too much stupid out there to worry about those things.
by out machine on Feb 4, 2009 3:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's not even his comments
it’s just the way he presents himself in general. Even if he’s making a valid point, it’s still annoying (for me anyways) to listen to him.
More often than not he’s talking about what it was like when he was a player/coach, and it gets old fast.
by bondslegend on Feb 4, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I've said before...
…that the big difference between Krukow’s non-annoying observations and Santangelo’s is just how Santangelo has to explicitly mention how he was a player.
Krukow tends to just state fact: “Guys like to play cards in the clubhouse,” or whatever. With Santangelo, the same thing would come out more like “When I was with the Expos, guys liked to play cards in the clubhouse.” It makes it sound like a story about Santangelo instead of about the game and the guys who are playing it now.
If Santangelo could just learn not to do that one thing, which probably has more to do with nervousness and wanting to establish his credentials rather than stemming from an oversized ego, he’d be much less annoying.
Adoptive father to the All-Father. Does that make me the All-Grandfather?
by EliminateMe on Feb 5, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. He kind of reminds me of one of those small, hyper, over-eager dogs that is looking to please. I just program myself not to hear the part where he says “when I was a player.” I hope he can improve because he seems like a pretty decent guy. He is our 6th or 7th string announcer, but he is probably better than about half of baseball’s color guys based on what I have heard around the league on MLB.com.
by out machine on Feb 5, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!
I mean, +1.
(But if he did that, I wouldn’t be able to mock him as much. The mocking brings me great joy.)
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
by can of corn on Feb 5, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That looks like Livan wearing a Fighting Hydrants shirt.
by out machine on Feb 5, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When FP left for LA...
..,it’s because the Giants did not offer him arbitration and in so doing released him. FP was not happy about it but Sabean said the Giants were making a commitment to Calvin Murray as the platoon partner for Benard in CF.
As for FP in the booth, my favorite part of it all is that the regular crew abuses him on the post-game show. Miller is merciless and even Flemming gets in on it (which is funny because Flemming never gets to dish on anyone with the normal broadcast team).
by ho-hum baby on Feb 6, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
My F.P. story
I was golfing in Maui on my honeymoon (October 1998) and it was getting dark. Some guy coming up behind us asked to join our four to beat the light. It was F.P. Thank Gopod I played fantasy baseball, or else I would have had no idea who he was. Actually, I didn’t recognize him, but he pointed out my Giants cap and said he played for the Expos. I told him he should come to the Giants and he said he grew up a Giants fan in Sacramento.
We were both new to the course, and we were given a pole marker to guide our shot over the hill with a dogleg. He just crushed his. Perfectly over the pole, but we never found it… he hit so damn far.
I thought it was a tribute to ballplayers, but now I know: Roids.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
by achiappanza on Feb 9, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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