Happenings
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 24, 2009 10:38 PM PST
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PrintIn case you haven't noticed, this site is filled with an insular bunch of stuck-up twits. Myself included, of course. We think we're better than the rest of the internet, and that's probably because we are. This is a site about the Giants, but play around with the search engine a bit. Think about something that intellectuals, pseudo-intellectuals, and/or nerds might discuss. Plug it into the search engine. Pablo Neruda...string theory....Fellini....heck, there are over 3,300 comments just on Greek epic poetry alone. The collective knowledge always makes for interesting conversation, and it usually leads back to William Van Landingham or Glenallen Hill. If that isn't a sign of the best internet community on the planet, I'm not sure what planet I'm on.
And this is even before we get to the baseball knowledge. Cripes, man. The baseball knowledge around here. Do you know how nerve wracking it is to write every day, knowing that if I refer to the "Rule 5 draft" as the "Rule V draft," I'll get corrected immediately? If I reference Steve Soderstrom's slider, I'd better be sure that he threw one, because one of you out there probably saw him pitch in high school. And everyone contributes these little bits of knowledge within a Giants-specific context.
But changes are afoot. SB Nation has partnered with Yahoo!, which will lead to things like this. It should drive a ton of traffic here over time. New users will be able to create an account here with their Yahoo! ID. A lot of bright people will join, and they'll fit right in. That'll be awesome, and the conversation will only improve. On the other hand, more members can sometimes mean more people who aren't going to understand the community mores right away. That's a given.
It will be key to use the tools already at hand. Make sure that good FanPosts are recommended so the best ones will stick at the top of the pile. Use the "flag" button if someone writes something obscene or offensive. More so than we're used to, I mean. And if you read a FanPost like this:
...just ignore it. Let it die on the vine. Don't hijack, don't belittle, don't bemoan -- just ignore it. And maybe go over to a good FanPost and recommend it. The author of the poorly conceived post might then get bored with the lack of response and leave...unless they think, well, what in the hell was wrong with my post? Then maybe they'll do a little more reading, and start to pick up on the good, bad, and ugly of this site. Maybe they'll stick around and become regular, familiar contributors. I've seen it happen several times already.
I've mentioned several times that this site, and it's previous incarnation at Waiting for Boof, wouldn't exist if it weren't for the Giants newsgroup. I learned almost everything I know about baseball from the readers there -- the importance of on-base percentage, how to appreciate Hank Greenwald, and why it was better to complain about a roster move first and ask questions later. Here's my first post in that newsgroup. I tried to come into an established community and tell them why they were stupid. And I was nerd-slapped with a velvety glove of logic.
What's the moral of the story? I'm not quite sure, but it has to tie in somehow. Let's see...well, I like to think of this site as a beautiful internet Giants nerd haven. And my career as a professional internet Giants nerd started with me acting like a little twit. I matured. A little. Not much. But I figured out what it took to be a part of the newsgroup community, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. It made watching a painful team fun. I'm always striving to make this community as fun and interesting. If, however, I were continually heckled because of my first post in that newsgroup, or if the community's xenophobia was too strong to penetrate after my initial slip-up, you'd be doing something different right now.
Just keep this all in mind. I don't know quite how to put this, but this is kind of a big deal. People know Yahoo! Their offices smell of rich mahogany and leather-bound books. More readers and comments isn't a bad thing. This is pretty danged exciting. I'm looking forward to it. And I'm kind of wondering if the Rangers would move Kinsler for Zito if we threw in Osiris Matos. See, the Rangers need pitching, and I think that...
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Wow I'm first
There is so much pressure, this has to be witty, to show the mccoven that i am better then all the sfgate people with yahoo accounts who will soon join.
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
Son of a bitch
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
by TexasRanger on Feb 24, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Failed Firsties
How embarrassing.
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.
by BrianBokake on Feb 25, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
Although I do enjoy thread jacks and the horrendously horrible (but totally awesome) pictures that go with them, I think I’ve seen too much harshness (?) around here lately. Ok, maybe too much harsness = a little bit of harshness, but still, there’s no need for that.
I mean, here’s a list of people upon whom you can release all your frustration:
1. Bochy
1a. Grant
2. Jose Castillo
3. Barry Zito
4. Grant
5. Bruce Jenkins, Damon Bruce, [insert name of blowhard journalist/talk show guy]
6. Grant
7. Peter Magowan (if you believe the rumor that he was the one who pushed for the Zito signing)
And to all you new folks here, I say welcome.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
You might be amazed to know, but despite being a Dodger fan, Xeifrank is OK. I’ve talked to him a few times re: stats and stuff. I think he just likes to ruffle feathers with his projections over here.
Add insufferable Bay Area media assholes to the list
Glen Dickey, Tim Kawakami, Skip Bayless.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 24, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh Skip Bayless
He didn’t spend a lot of time at the Mercury News, but I think he’s still the sports columnist I hate the most.
by scotterduder on Feb 24, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
I always found Paige entertaining
He doesn’t take himself seriously, unlike that arrogant prick Jay Mariotti, that guy i can’t stand
Why does Sabean always look constipated?
Not on the show
but his columns are absolutely terrible. The guy should not be getting paid to write anything.
This is some funny reading.
I don’t know. Kawakami is remarkably irresponsible.
Adoptive Parent of Francisco Peguero. He can throw, he can run, he can hit(fastballs), and he's Dominican. What else do you need to know?
by haverecords on Feb 24, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
reply fail, meant to reply to scotterduder
Adoptive Parent of Francisco Peguero. He can throw, he can run, he can hit(fastballs), and he's Dominican. What else do you need to know?
by haverecords on Feb 24, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
That’s okay, I saw it. True about Kawakami, although I usually avoid what he writes. I think I read Bayless in my sports-page masochistic heyday, so that’s why he tops my list.
by scotterduder on Feb 24, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
As a Giants fan I have real hard time staying mad at Magowan. It has been almost 2 blissful decades since I have heard a Giants’ are going to move rumor and I am loving every second of that.
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Feb 25, 2009 6:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll give this a wait and see
I fear a Dennis Hopper style “this used to be a hell of a Chronicles” in 3 months.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 24, 2009 10:57 PM PST reply actions
Aw, but hijacking and belittling is part of what I love about this site!
I’d hate to see my first usenet post. I was like 14 and it was probably about Star Trek.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
In trying to find my first post, I found some posts I made to alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants in 1996. On the plus side, I thought Kirk Rueter should be given a rotation spot ahead of Osvaldo Fernandez. But other things are kind of hilarious in retrospect:
- I thought Rod Beck, Tim Scott, and Mark Dewey were locks for the 1997 bullpen.
- I wanted the Giants to bring back Shawon Dunston because, “The guy’s hitting .300, he hustles, he plays good defence (sic), and he’s indicated he wants to return. Plus, he provides experience up the middle, a big plus.”
- I said that anyone who doubted Matt Williams would be the third baseman in 1997 wasn’t a Giants fan
- I wanted to give CF & RF to “the real prospects” – Dante Powell and Jacob Cruz.
- I wanted Marcus Jensen to start as catcher.
And even back then, my obsession with Kim Batiste was in full effect. I said: “I think I’ve never seen a major league player as bad as Batiste. He makes a starting infield of Brad Wellman, Chris Brown, Johnny LeMaster, and todd Benzinger look good.”
All-in-all, considering I was 16, I didn’t embarrass myself too much.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Actually, the first post of mine I can find there is from early 1996, and is about how much I liked Mark Carreon. Some things never change.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
There’s a frightening amount of it out there!
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
I’m so glad there was no Internet when I was sixteen. It’s bad enough knowing that the crap I write now is preserved for all time; if the infinitely embarrassing things I would have written back then were still floating around, it would be too much to bear.
On the other hand, you kids have no idea how difficult it was for a teenager to find porn before the internet. Life is full of little tradeoffs.
When I was first online, in the early 90s, there was porn on the Internet, but it was pretty much all text-based. So I’m not sure where that stands on the tradeoff scale.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
I REMEMBER THIS ONE
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
On the other hand, you kids have no idea how difficult it was for a teenager to find porn before the internet. Life is full of little tradeoffs.
+1,000,000
These kids today have no idea how easy they have it. Why, when I was a teenager, we had to walk eight miles each way in the snow just to sneak a look at the centerfold in Penthouse!
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
And we were GRATEFUL.
Forsan et heac olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Feb 25, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
when I was a teenager, we had to walk eight miles each way …
You forgot “it was uphill both ways”
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move."-Leroy "Satchel" Paige
My adopted son Matt Downs . Utility Infielder with a Bat !
Personally, I think it’s more important for people my age to be able to find porn on the internet now than for anybody else of any age to be able to find porn on the internet ever.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Shoot, remember the early days of the internet? Sure, you could get free porn far more easily than you can now, but you couldn’t get any video. It was all jpgs and stuff. NOW, we’ve got the bandwidth to stream video.
THAT’S progress, people!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
And the jpgs took like 15 minutes to load. Truly those were dark times.
by chilibean_3 on Feb 26, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
On the other hand, you kids have no idea how difficult it was for a teenager to find porn before the internet. Life is full of little tradeoffs.
We had to sneak behind the only strip club in town and rummage the dumpster for discarded 16mm film snippets to peer at in wonder… or for actual magazines, fund a booze buy for the janitor at the local public school.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 25, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
And, once again, we were GRATEFUL.
Forsan et heac olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Feb 25, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
A gratitude only Catholic school boys could fully experience. The guilt sauce was magnifique.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 25, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
exactly
hijacking and belittling are time-honored traditions around here. It’s a regulation of sorts, too.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 25, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
I’d hate to see my first usenet post.
Mine was over at alt.sex.unix—or was it alt.computers.eunuchs?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
rec.games.pbm
rec.sport.baseball
alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants
alt.kibology (!!!! I’d bet a billion dollars Kibo has something to do with 4chan)
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Hijacking jcb9's post!
Has anyone ever enjoyed a jcb9 hijack????
????
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Reasonably sure my Internet career...
…started on either alt.punk or rec.arts.drwho.
Either way, it was a clear sign I wasn’t having sex in high school.
(this, of course, omits my time running the Xanth Xone on Prodigy, but “it was a clear sign I wasn’t having sex in 7th grade,” is something I’m hoping to never need to type)
Tyler Walker, my son, it's time you left the nest. No seriously. Go.
This is a huge step for SB Nation
but I’m a little bummed. I’ve enjoyed the sarchasm around here and would hate it see it filled in with “ZOMG ZITO SUX” posts
Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl
Well...
One thing that really killed the official site message board in ‘02ish was that there was no one actually moderating anything, so when things got stupid, they realllly got stupid, for goodsies. Chris Shuttlesworth was moderating slightly, but it wasn’t totally her job, nor her passion. There are too many people here who care about McCovey Chronicles to let it turn into a a den of monosyllabic meatheaded troglodytes. It’ll be okay, I’m sure.
by satyricrash on Feb 24, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
We’ve got Grant and four fine moderators (one of these things are not like the other) here, and the other loyal members of our site mostly self moderate anyway for most situations. Thanks to you guys, you can handle the little stuff and we’ll handle the big stuff.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Yeah, you all handle you little stuff and I’ll handle my big stuff.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
I’m pretty sure the masturbation portion of this thread is up above.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
but we will also get Pablo curing lepers stories.
by SeeingStars on Feb 24, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
And the funny thing about your example is that you were right! The 1997 Giants kicked ass.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
I was thinking something similar.
Although you were wrong in part of your approach, on the specific issue you were on the right as far as how things went (and the analysis and prognosis of some of the statistically inclined folks proved wrong too—though nothing wrong with statistical analysis, of course).
But there is a big difference with your post, as compared to the ‘what is saben doing if he keeps starting barry zito ill scream’ sort: you were clearly intelligent, and could very well be a good part of the conversation. It would seem that some hijacking, and bemoaning would still be applicable (though it is certainly overdone). And that isn’t to go against your suggestion of letting it die on the vine—usually that will be the right way to go. But an occasional hijack or bemoaning will serve to act as a live example and something of a filter to the dialog, and discourage some that resemble the late night radio callers—most of whom are hopeless.
This won’t be a problem for the fanshots, but it will for the fanposts. We already have live conversations that end up off the screen now, and this could get much worse. Anyway to deal with that, in terms of formatting?
Adoptive Parent of Francisco Peguero. He can throw, he can run, he can hit(fastballs), and he's Dominican. What else do you need to know?
by haverecords on Feb 24, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
BTW
If I kept the old blog I ran (which I ran proficiently….. straight into the ground), I think I would’ve done this after every entry:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
Yahoo
Better Yahoo! than the Chronicle…maybe Schulman and Ratto can moderate? I wish we had a lineup like ’97; still skinny Barry, Ham-Bone, Snow, Mueller, some tool named Kent, and yes a little Glenallen Hill
Maybe Schulman would come on full time
The Chron is said to be in serious trouble and might shut down completely.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Feb 24, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Save Schulman, I’d certainly be laughing.
Adoptive Parent of Francisco Peguero. He can throw, he can run, he can hit(fastballs), and he's Dominican. What else do you need to know?
by haverecords on Feb 24, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
I would be too, except I get the feeling SFGate will just spin off into a web-only place and its apotheosis will be complete.
by shanghaijim on Feb 25, 2009 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
Could be. Though I would prefer it enter der Nichtse than an apotheosis.
Adoptive Parent of Francisco Peguero. He can throw, he can run, he can hit(fastballs), and he's Dominican. What else do you need to know?
For some reason after reading this I am picturing SFGate in a big black suite asking “Where is Padme?”
by paboperfecto on Feb 25, 2009 6:46 AM PST up reply actions
It’ now to the point where when a telemarketer calls for the Chronicle or the Contra Costa times, telling me about the free subscription I can receive, I feel sort of badly when I tell them “Hell to the no!” Sometimes, I’m fairly certain I hear the higher-ups there sobbing in the background with each and every “no.” And I feel extra badly when I tell them, “Thanks, but I can just read the Chronicle online.” It’s like they’re killing their own business model.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Maybe someone will join who actually understands the third line of my sig! Then again that’s about as likely as Zito pitching as well as he’s paid.
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
learn from Tsukasa…it seems that i (or someone else) lost. (?)
Adoptive Parent of Francisco Peguero. He can throw, he can run, he can hit(fastballs), and he's Dominican. What else do you need to know?
by haverecords on Feb 24, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
more like: Being taught by Tsukasa…somehow feels like you’ve epic failed.
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
by Zetsuboushita on Feb 25, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
I used to be like that until I started reading manga without furigana.
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
by Zetsuboushita on Feb 26, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
On top of which, greater exposure vaguely increases the chances of one day being paid to do this crap. And the worst thing for that would be to have your legion of baseball twit pricks driving away the uncivilized pagans with our very advanced sticks and fire.
I, for one, am afraid to put down my fire stick. I mean, what happens when I do that? The whole place burns down, that’s what!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
Hijack!
/not a hijack
//thehavenot is stupid
///I shouldn’t be up but my stupid infected middle finger is really swollen and throbbing
////That last one was an excuse for my stupidity just now….
Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
So the hijack is about why thehavenot is stupid?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 7:23 AM PST up reply actions
I think this site could use some more Fellini talk. 8 comments total? Pshaw, we can do better than that.
Better Fellini ending: La Strada or Nights of Cabiria? I’m saying Cabiria, although it’s a close one.
Or how about some Fellaini talk? Dude was only okay against Newcastle over the weekend.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
ARGH I’m still so pissed that Arteta’s out for the season. :(((( The offense looked clueless without him. I was hoping for a deep FA Cup run, but now I don’t think there’s much of a chance. Granted they were missing Cahill, Osman, and Pienaar against Newcastle, but Arteta is the playmaker.
But to address your request for Fellaini talk, he’s been pretty mediocre since he’s been banged up. He’s got a ton of potential though.
/off-topic Everton rant
by scotterduder on Feb 25, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Chelsea v Juventus
Ready to go off on ESPN2.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
Yeah, I’m watching right now and then going to listen to the Giants on the radio. It’s a good day for sports!
by scotterduder on Feb 25, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
For Fellini Fans...
and a good place for nuBees to start:
Amarcord — 35mm restoration at the Castro Theatre
February 27-March 5
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
Good to know!
Thanks, I haven’t seen Amarcord yet, but I hear nothing but good things.
by scotterduder on Feb 25, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Not a bad thing
as has been mentioned, this place will not let itself be turned into a den of idiots. I for one welcome our new benevolent masses and hope they’re not all morons.
That said, everyone who was here before the yahoo thing is wayyy cooler.
What about everyone who was here before the SB Nation relaunch (or whatever last year)?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
we’re the coolest
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.
by BrianBokake on Feb 25, 2009 1:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We be in da house.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
I like insularity, divisiveness and narrow self-interest
Die Yahoo Scum!
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below.500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
The author of the poorly conceived post might then get bored with the lack of response and leave…
No way , man. I’m a McCoven ’til the end.
OK if I adopt Randy Johnson?
"What kind of a stupid question is that?"
by victor frankenstein on Feb 25, 2009 2:21 AM PST reply actions
Do I have to pinky swear not to
malign, abuse, accuse, asperse, backbite, bad-mouth, befoul, besmirch, bespatter, blacken, calumniate, cast aspersion, curse, decry, defile, denigrate, depreciate, derogate, detract, dirty, disparage, harm, injure, insult, misrepresent, mudsling, opprobriate, pollute, rap, revile, roast, run down, scandalize, slur, smear, soil, spatter, speak ill of, stain, sully, taint, take a swipe at, tarnish, tear down, traduce, vilify, villainize, vituperate…..the new folks?
In some corners of the internet, they call what you’re talking about “The Invisible Dogpile of Shunning”. It’s a difficult technique to master, but a devastatingly effective one once you do. I hope we can master it.
That said, SELL OUT.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Velvety glove of logic
Win
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'm scared. =/
I’ll have no schtick! This whole….Yahoo-ness will leave me with nothing to post about! I mean, who am I if I can’t post about pie or Norwegien Heritage Night?
I feel bad for the moderators.
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2009 6:05 AM PST reply actions
I think Veruca-ing would fall under the “no belittle” clause.
Tis a sad sad day…
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2009 7:39 AM PST up reply actions
All things in moderation. If we go 100% no-belittle, what the hell are we going to talk about all day?
This has to be one of the stupidest comments ever.
by paboperfecto on Feb 25, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, man! I didn’t even think of that. You are so right.
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
I'm on it
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Feb 25, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I AM SCARE!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions
LARS AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2009 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
I can take it
It’ll help me blend in with the NEED MORE DINGERZ crowd. The only thing I won’t tolerate is people taking a good thread & twisting it into a new direction. Try to stick to the topic at hand people.
By the way, if anybody is still interested in the yahoo fantasy league, league ID is 120900, password: sayhey 5 spots out of 14 are still left. Come take on Walrusman’s penii!
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
Actually, the plural for that is penes.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions
I looked it up, and Penii is a plural form.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
But not the plural form.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Shut up. I just like penes.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
We know you do. And no I didn’t hide your own reply to this message.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
And I didn’t go around multiple threads on this site strategically hiding a number of your comments, either.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
I give in. One location “penii” was listed. In another, it wasn’t and “penes” is listed. I trust dictionary.com more than I trust wherever else I got it.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
For what it’s worth, Merriam-Webster lists both penises and penes.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
I can't believe I'm doing this, but....
penes would be correct, if it is a Latin root. 3rd declension nouns (with is as a common singular form) have es as the plural. English imports a lot of Latin nouns directly in this way. E.g., parenthesis (singular) and parentheses (plural).
Is there some sort of component in nerd formula to account for knowing the Latin roots of penis?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Did you already make the change?
Giant Dirtbags: Brian Anderson, Todd Jennings, Steve Hammond, John Bowker
Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Feb 25, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Ok ResDog I joined, how long does drafting take? If I have to can I have the computer draft for me? I am looking foward to playing FB for the first time!
I can haz homerunz!
I'm in BTW
I don’t mean to be “that guy” who complains when he’s the new kid. But yeah, CHANGE THE DRAFT TIMEZ11
by bondslegend on Feb 25, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
I'd join, but...
It says it’s full. :(
by The Double Deuce on Feb 25, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I guess this means that the number of TakeAGiantStepNGO type posts are going to increase and if you think about it that might be a good thing. Think of how much fun everybody had belittling him.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Feb 25, 2009 7:48 AM PST reply actions
my feeling has always been
that, when someone makes a fanpost that is full of terrible ideas, it’s better to just tell them succinctly why those are bad ideas and leave it at that. 2-3 comments to show them the error of their ways, and then silence. Nobody gets mad or offended, and hopefully they learn to think before they post. Of course, is someone posts 5 fanposts in a day, shun away.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
Take a warning from experience...
When Scout.com made a syndication deal with Yahoo and Fox, it seemed all nice and good…
And then we were bought by Fox! Ack!
Damn Fox-Ownership. All I’m saying, Grant, is watch your heiney. :)
SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!
speaking as someone who's never posted before
But has lurked here for quite some time, here are some things I would hate to see change about this site. If they are applied to something I should happen to post, so much the better:
1. Random pseudo-intellectual and/or culture-nerd thread hijacks
2. Abuse of any and all Barry Zito trade proposals, and nearly all Aaron Rowand trade proposals.
2a. Cruel remarks directed at all gritty, gamer-type players revealed to actually be poo. No need to name names.
3. Ritual or totemic or mocking use of certain rhetorical tropes attributed to a broad, Internet-ish fan base, e.g., DINGERZ or STRICKOUTS (can’t remember if you guys like that one) or “SABES” or any formulation of GIT ’ER DONE. Especially fond of !!111.
4. High-handed rejection of those who high-handedly reject the newer baseball stats. Which btw I myself know little about, although I can tell some are extremely useful. Just figured out what WHIP means yesterday! OPS etc I can grasp. Defensive stats/ratings remain a mystery, but for the moment I take them on shaky faith, sort of the way Buddhists believe there may be some overarching meaning or order to the universe, but the evidence is not quite conclusive.
5. Stern treatment of those who fail to use the reply button correctly, or who fail to distinguish between a fanpost and a fanshot. (Don’t really grasp the difference myself, except in a vague and conceptual way.)
5. An overall air of good humor, intelligence and a long-view philosophical attitude, which goes along with rooting for a poorly managed, noncompetitive team. (I know, that may change. Or not.)
So Yahoo or N’yahoo, keep on keepin’ on. BTW of introduction, I’ve been a Giants fan since the ‘70s, Bay Area native now in NYC, also follow the A’s and the Mets in a wobbly order of fandom. Flame as you wish.
by LouisXVII on Feb 25, 2009 8:43 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hey, I guess they’re right. new posters, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
This is the way to join.
Study our culture from the etic perspective for years until you learn our ways, and then enter our villiage and learn even more from the emic perspective.
Note, to number 4 I used to be like you, and the more and more I read here the more and more I learn. I still like me a good old home run count and all, but I’m learning some other stuff. Of course stupid stats like WAR, RAR, YAR, and all can go away.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
I prefer to use BARP (Booty Above Replacement Pirate).
Adoptive father to the All-Father. Does that make me the All-Grandfather?
by EliminateMe on Feb 25, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
'preciate it, folks
i’ll take that as a welcome. now I’ll put down the thesaurus and ask why it would be SO WRONG to trade Zito for a stud who could launch some taterz around here. Becuz OMFG DO WE NEED TATERZ. ok maybe not straight up but if we threw in 1 MILLION DOLLARS
ITS A SUPERIOR COMPUTING PLATFORM
/neckbeard
by bondslegend on Feb 25, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Microserfs have to run DINGEZ.exe and the interface is horrible (I write this on my Mac Pro).
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 25, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Only a Mac guy would misspell the name of his own app!!!1 No PC guy would ever… EVER do that!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Guilty
You can see I’m uncomfortable with the PC…
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 25, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Mmmm… taterz….
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
There was a Jeopardy clue about you recently
Weren’t you imprisoned and executed as a child during the French Revolution?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
He was executed for being a terrible band?
And they say Simon Cowell is harsh…
Adoptive father to the All-Father. Does that make me the All-Grandfather?
by EliminateMe on Feb 25, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
yes, it really didn't hurt at all
People complain about the guillotine but it’s all in the anticipation. Actually getting it done is like piercing your ears, nothing to it.
I originally meant to sign up for sbnation simply as louisxvi, but the extra i snuck in there and it’s weirder and funnier this way.
I like this guy too
btw, dude, how’s Marie doing?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
To our current members...
To repeat what Grant said, play nice. If one stupid person is commenting, ignore it. If two stupid people are commenting, enjoy the hilarity. If two stupid people are cussing each other out, flag it and let the moderators do our job. I’ll actually start trying to check the flag sections here, as before they just filled up with posts that hat more than 5 links it seems. Not because of spamming, but because people here write long posts with a lot of links. It’ll definitely be a difficult time, but bear with it and it’ll get better. The people who aren’t getting responses to their “OMG WHY ISN’T THERE A POWER HITTER ON THE TAEM?” posts will go away and we’ll be left with the posters who are more like us.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Walrus vows to check the flags, Goofus vows to make dick jokes that appeal to a wider audience.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
Wait a minute
do we have to “flag” dick jokes now ?
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move."-Leroy "Satchel" Paige
My adopted son Matt Downs . Utility Infielder with a Bat !
I’ll do what Goofus is doing. Just lazier.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, really… have you heard the one about Dick Clark?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Kumbayah
Michael row the boat ashore…
Hallelullah!
Adoptive parental unit of Kevin " 2007's Most Spectacular Pitcher" Pucetas.
"I'm a Giant now... I like watching the ball get up there" - Wendell Fairley
"I'm really proud to be on this team." - Nate Schierholtz
"Woo hoo" - Tim "The Kid" Lincecum
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Feb 25, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
we can wait till someone copy/pastes a comment from a sfgiants article (you know, one of those ones all in CAPS making no sense), and author is actually here now and chimes in and claims that they wrote that comment.
Giant Dirtbags: Brian Anderson, Todd Jennings, Steve Hammond, John Bowker
Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Feb 25, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
Does this mean...
there will be links to Dan Wetzel and Jeff Passan columns on this site now?
my cousin and i got noah lowry's autograph after he came out of a porta-potty. he was nice about it.
It is going to be hard...
..to filter my thoughts if after reading a Passan column all i have to do is click and be at McC to complain. I wonder sometimes why I keep reading his stories.
I am on a vendetta to make sports enjoyable to watch again, and Mr. Buck you are at the top of my LIST!!! Mr. Selig don’t get to upset you are number TWO!!!
by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2009 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
There have actually been multiple times...
when I saw an article title that sounded interesting, but when I saw Dan Wetzel’s face next to it, I skipped it entirely. And then I feel really cool for the next 10 minutes.
my cousin and i got noah lowry's autograph after he came out of a porta-potty. he was nice about it.
Less traffic to their articles is a good thing for making people in power think that nobody reads them.
I also don’t click.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
No. It’s just a visibility arrangment thingie.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 25, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
We’re going to cut you open and tinker with your ticker.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 25, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
…will go away and we’ll be left with the posters who are more like us.
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile!
Just as you all were once...
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
OMG YODA > PICARD TREKKER LOZER
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
No.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
Yes.
But Picard is a savage.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
WHAT ARE THE FEDERATION'S DEFENSE PLANS FOR MINOS KORVA
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
I wish I was more of a LOTR geek so I could make a hilarious Minas Tirith crossover joke here.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
Isn’t it strange that like 99% of the Borg appear to have been assimilated from the human race?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
NO HUMANS ARE WHAT EVOLVES ON EVERY PLANET>
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
I actually kind of imagine the Borg in a sort of Terminator sort of way. Humans made them some time the future, but now they can’t fucking get rid of us. So they keep going back in time to try to get rid of us, but everywhen they go, Picard is there to throw a tantrum a fuck it all up for them.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
What happens is when Klingons and Kardashians and Ferengi get assimilated, all the prosthetics and silicon melt away, so they just end up looking human.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
The Kardashians do have a lot of plastic in them, but you’re probably thinking of Cardassians.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Mmmmm... Nope.
No, I’m thinking of Kardashians. Sure, the Cardassians have a lot of prosthetics too, but the Kardashians I’m thinking went more the silicon route.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Ha!
If you follow that Google Groups link, and look at other posts by Grant, you can see him comparing Rich DeLucia to Marlon Brando and talking about how The Simpsons isn’t as good as it used to be – in 1996. Like I said upthread about my own ancient Usenet posts, so things never change.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
I get excited thinking that “Dancing Goofus” might become the next RickRoll or “Boom Goes The Dynamite”
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
How cool would it be to have your totally embarrassing moment referenced by will smith at the oscars???
That guy must have crapped himself.
by bondslegend on Feb 25, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
threadjack
T-minus 2 hours until Timmeh! For those not in the Bay Area, I’d like to reiterate that MLB Network will be broadcasting. 12:05pm can’t come soon enough.
Just seeing the words “Open Gameday Thread 02/25/09” on my screen should be enough excitement to get over the shock of seeing the Indians playing in the Cactus League.
/threadjack
/sorry for the threadjack on a post about not jacking threads
Derin McMains had five fingers, but he only used three.
Since you've threadjacked...
I know Freddy Lew is staying back in Scottsdale. Sabes was on KNBR this morning saying it was being done as a “precaution” and he should be starting tomorrow. What’s his injury? Did I miss something?
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
The Bunion
He had surgery, and the team is being cautious about bringing him back, from what I read in the Chron. He will apparently be ready for the home opener Thursday.
Alright, fine, I admit it! "Hydration Technician" really DOES just mean "water boy!"
I’m currently listening to Joe Angel commentating on Brad Hennessey pitching against the Mets – he’s just walked the bases loaded with one out in the 2nd!
"If you don’t like Pablo Sandoval, you don’t like baseball, don’t appreciate life, or are a dodger fan—any of which mean you aren’t actually human." - haverecords
That's just not right.
Adoptive father to the All-Father. Does that make me the All-Grandfather?
by EliminateMe on Feb 25, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Heh
You got E-Ticketed.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
eeeeee
I think fully half of my posts on that site were comprised of whining about how much they whined about the Giants.
Grant,
I’m a sb nation lurker, a fellow sjsu student, and a former forum moderator of an elitist (for noble nerd reasons) message board, and I must say I respect you and your rambling creative writing subtle persuasive encouragements. Good work.
Yahoo better pay you.
You weren't that wrong
Newsgroup consensus blasted you with this…
1) It’s not the Matt trade, it’s the Snow trade that’s REALLY bad.
2) It’s not that TRADING Matty was bad, it was trading him for
Tavarez, Roa, Kent, and Vizcaino that was bad.
and they were wrong. Just goes to show, ya don’t ever know.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
I maintain to this day
1) that both snow trade and the matty trades were bad, given the information available at the time.
Kent became a HOFer (and Sabean pointed out that TAVAREZ was the key to the trade), and Matty was pretty much done (which was not that much of a stretch).
2) Snow just put up one of the worst offensive seasons – as a 1B! At this I guess you can credit Sabes for buying low. I think Snow is vastly overrated and Sabean STILL got lucky with this one.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
The evidence was that Snow wasn’t that good, but even if he hadn’t panned out reasonably well, I don’t think you can argue that it was a terrible trade without vastly overrating Allen Watson.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
I disagree... at the time
taking Snow for FREE would have been a bad move.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
I disagreed with that assessment at the time, and I still do. Snow was coming off a poor season in 1996, but he was better in 1995, and already showed signs of the solid but unexceptional hitter he became – good OBP guy, solid as a left-handed hitter, disaster as a righty.
Given the 1B situation at the time – Carreon played well, but was traded for Jim Poole, leaving Dave McCarty, Desi Wilson, and Steve Scarsone as 1B options – I thought and think it was a reasonable move to make.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
I agree he got lucky with both trades
But that doesn’t make them bad in retrospect any more than hitting on 19 and getting a 2. You still get the winnings.
I suppose you can still call them bad in the same way managers say they wouldn’t change their decisions even though they end up not panning out.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
by achiappanza on Feb 26, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Well then they're not predictive of future success
And you can’t use them as proof that he’s a good GM or that he shouldn’t be fired/allowed to leave when his contract expires.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Agreed
But no one’s doing that.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
Hey Grant!
Your ads have escaped and are now taking residence on the main body of the site. You should coral them and put them back on the edges where they belong.
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 26, 2009 9:04 AM PST reply actions
BUY CBS SPORTSLINE’S PRODUCT AND/OR SERVICE
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 26, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
I was trying to be positive about this, but after logging on this morning and seeing 5,000 more “manram” comments I’m a wee bit concerned.
I’ve fought this battle before and lost. Back in the day I helped run a pretty decent little IRC channel on dalnet. It was very similar to here, however the art medium was ascii, not photoshop. Then they let the AOLers loose on the real internet. We never recovered.
If there’s anything you think we can do as users… emailing SBN and asking for more moderator control, blocking new users from posting fanposts for 30 days, or 30 comments… or whatever… let us know.
It’s fine to say ignore posts… but that’s not human nature, and if, god forbid, your yahoo users out number your “old timers” that won’t happen anyway.
I don’t think that Yahoo! users will out number us oldies. Don’t worry about the moderating team, we’ll be able to keep stupid people from going back and forth between eachother. If it’s a stupid person and one of the oldies, then especially just ignore them. They’re just trying to start a stupid argument.
I think the internet has changed quite a bit since the AOLing days and IRC and ascii art, not that it’s changed for the better but that it’s changed so it won’t be the same. I bet we’ll be just the same, but maybe have more entertainment.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Mods have a ton of control. That shouldn’t be a problem. The FanPost after 30 comments is a very interesting idea, but it wouldn’t be an advantage for the smaller communities. I’ll still bring it up.
And, actually, the Yahoo! traffic isn’t that substantial yet. It’s increased hits by about 4%, but I don’t think we need to brace for a flood of newbs. This warning post was probably overstated.
Of course, the whole SWOOP post just shows that this warning post was ignored anyways, so you’re probably right.
by Grant Brisbee on Mar 1, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
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