Community Projection: Randy Johnson
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 16, 2009 12:12 PM PST
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PrintThere are, like, two of you sitting in an office, wondering why you’re sitting in an office today. I feel your pain. I’m the third. If I had the day off today, do you know what I would do? I would sit in an easy chair, listen to the rain, and continue reading Team of Rivals. That is, I would actually be doing something holiday-appropriate. I wouldn’t waste my day playing Xbox, thinking about anything other than our former presidents; I would be knee deep in the history of them, trying to get a sense of what made them tick. But I have to work instead? Oh, well let me just switch gears then.
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь!
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!
Work? Today? You might as well get Ivan Drago in here, and let him parade around on top of a bear as he tosses nesting dolls at small children. I thought this was America, dammit.
(Actually, I forgot it was President’s Day until a couple of minutes ago. And if I were off today, I wouldn’t be reading, I’d be knee-deep in mustardy poop and musical stuffed snails. But it’s fun to rant.)
Ahem.
Inspired by this post from the also-working Andrew Baggarly, today's a day for the community projection for Randy Johnson. I don’t think the acquisition will sink in until we see Johnson in a full Giants uniform. Randy Johnson in French vanilla. Randy Johnson getting cheered at Mays Field. Randy Johnson helping the Giants win. It’s like listening to a physicist talk about the existence of 12 dimensions – whatever you say, buddy, but I’m never going to be able to visualize it on my own.
Baggarly says that Johnson looks good, which makes me all fuzzy. It’s useless to look at first-half/second-half splits…unless you want them for cherry-picking purposes. In the first half of 2008, Johnson wasn’t very good, posting a 5.23. But his K/BB and his K/9 were good, and his .335 BAbip was unusually high. In the second half, Johnson improved, as he walked fewer hitters and allowed fewer runs.
Is the first-half/second-half division arbitrary and not indicative of anything performance related? Maybe. But I choose to think that Johnson needed some time to find his rhythm after back surgery, and he’ll be second-half Randy until he’s 53 or so. Supporting evidence: none. But that hasn’t stopped me before.
I also think that Johnson will accidentally leave some moustache trimmings in Jonathan Sanchez’s bowl of Honey Smacks one morning, and the ensuing DNA mutations will lead to five Cy Young awards for Sanchez. Again, there’s no evidence for this, but you have a sense that it’s true. Look in your heart.
I’m not going to read too much into the switch to a bigger ballpark, as Mays Field only makes a substantial difference for left-handed hitters, and Johnson already murders those hitters. But I’m excited to have Johnson on the staff. He’s a freak, and I’m not sure if the standard aging rules apply to him. He was fifth in the NL in strikeouts per nine innings, and that’s including his rough start. I’m bullish on him:
Randy Johnson
IP: 189
ERA: 2.92
K: 173
BB: 51
HRA: 15
Unfair references to his less-than-aesthetically-pleasing mug: ∞
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Dang..
I was hoping I’d be the first person to project a sub 3 ERA..
IP: 195
ERA: 2.99
K: 180
BB: 52
HRA: 11
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
I guess I'm one of the other two stuck at work
I don’t make statistical predictions but I’ll say that he is a slightly-below average NL pitcher this year on some sort of stat during some period of time.
Seriously, though, I think he’ll be hurt most of the year and Lowry will get significant pitching time since Sanchez will be given the 5th spot.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 16, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions
I’m also at work but that’s okay because we do get this holiday, they just stick it between Christmas and New Year’s as part of our week off at that time.
by paboperfecto on Feb 16, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, you think Randy’s going to be hurt most of the year and Lowry will be healthy most of the year?
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
yes
I’m bullish on Lowry this year. And no, I don’t have any particular reason for it.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 16, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
BAC works.
OK if I adopt Randy Johnson?
"What kind of a stupid question is that?"
by victor frankenstein on Feb 17, 2009 3:08 AM PST up reply actions
Whoops , forgot the Cookyman...blood alcohol content.
OK if I adopt Randy Johnson?
"What kind of a stupid question is that?"
by victor frankenstein on Feb 17, 2009 3:10 AM PST up reply actions
I’m also at work, which I don’t mind too much (especially since “at work” means at my desk in the living room of my apartment), but what is annoying is that my employer gives bonus pay for working on most holidays, but not this one. Woe.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
it looks pessimistic but it's totally not
He’s 45, remember.
149 IP
11-8
4.23
139 K
51 BB
20 HR
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
I’m still a lazy college student, but I had class today including an econ exam :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
My todays classes
got moved to last Friday which was weak. I hate Friday classes.
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
No classes today yay. Of course this is my only day off since…well about a month ago so I’m just taking it easy.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
We’re a Catholic school, so we get three days off for Easter. So I guess class on President’s Day is the trade off.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
When I was in middle school/junior high, I lived in a mostly Jewish town in New Jersey, so we got all the Jewish holidays off. The tradeoff was that our school year didn’t finish until almost the end of June.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
I’m at a public uni in NY, we got Lincoln’s birthday, today, and a week and a half for Easter+. The 5 day weekend was nice. Oh, and we get the Jewish High Holidays off as well.
Kent. Hall of Famer. Giant.
Don’t forget Founders Day, or whatever that crazy Suffolk county only holiday for the Marathon is.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
randy's a freak
175 ip
13-6
3.46
164 k
45 bb
13 hr
We accept him. Gooble gobble. One of us…one of us…one of us…
by biff pocoroba on Feb 16, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
YOU KNWO WHO ELSE IS A FREAK VERNON DAVISS!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions
it would be kinda cool if he could catch, tho
by giantdonkey on Feb 16, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
He catches fine. It would be cooler if the 49ers utilized him correctly. Instead of sending him on endless fade routes down the seam, maybe they should get him in space and let him not have to track the ball over his shoulder while running full speed. Not many TE’s are very good at that to begin with.
you're right and wrong
they SHOULD utilize him better and give him better opportunities to catch the ball and RAC, but he has done a very poor job of catching some very catchable balls, you have to admit.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 16, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
But name me a receiver or TE who has never dropped an easy pass. I think it’s just magnified in Davis’ case because he has freakish athleticism and his opportunities to make plays are so limited because they use him to block so frequently. Also, other than Hill, the QB play has been so terrible.
you have a point
I think it’s just magnified in Davis’ case because he has freakish athleticism
Also because he isn’t thrown to much often, and the few passes thrown his way in a game, if he drops a couple, it seems like he can’t catch the ball.
On the other hand, he’s not some 12-year old that needs to be catered to. He’s a beast of a man with incredible talent to play at an elite level. He’s paid millions of dollars. He should catch nearly every ball that comes his way if he’s open.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 16, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
They don’t even send him out on routes that often, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t utilizing him correctly. The thing is he’s an absolute beast of a blocker. Wait, what does this have to do with Randy Johnson again?
I just want to make the point that switching ballparks should be a big factor for Johnson. It isn’t that moving to Mays Field will help him all that much – rather moving out of Arizona’s launching pad should help him out. Park factor of 107 last year.
by Missing Barry on Feb 16, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
OMG THIS. I think Sing finally gets it and we’ll FINALLY see him for what he should be. Shaun Hill makes Davis a huge threat. He loves throwing to him.
IP 185
ERA 3.55
K 155
BB 50
HRA 15
Number of times Kruk and Kuip mention how he is mentoring the young starters: 85.
IP: 181
ERA: 3.97
K: 178
BB: 54
HRA: 14
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move."-Leroy "Satchel" Paige
My adopted son Matt Downs . Utility Infielder with a Bat !
The Rainman Projections For Randy Johnson
GS 26
Innings 162
FIP 4.00
SO 150
BB 52
HR 21
I’m excited to have Johnson
that’s what she said!
…Johnson will accidentally leave some moustache trimmings in Jonathan Sanchez’s bowl of Honey Smacks one morning, and the ensuing DNA mutations
It makes one wonder what you get if you cross “Big Ugly” with “El Guapo”
If I wasn’t working, I’d be up at Kirkwood enjoying all the new snow.
I like round numbers:
IP: 150
Ks: 150
BBs: 50
ERA: 3.00
W-L: 15-5
Amount of crap Goofus gets for predicting wins and losses: ∞
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
omg look at goofus
predicting wins and losses. what a goofus!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
beautiful things
Bring me the head of Barry Zito!
DONT YOU KNWO
WINZ AND LOSES DONT MEAN NETHING!? HAVENT U HEARD OF BILL JAMES?!??!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 16, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
WINZ AND LOSES ARE EVERYTHING! IF A PITCHER DOESN’T WIN HE IS A LOSER! LOOK AT CAIN
by paboperfecto on Feb 16, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Trade Cain for Eckstein
Cain’s obviously a loser, and Eckstein is a proven winner.
We’d come out the winners of THAT trade!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
4TH PITCHER AT BEST!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 16, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
WINZ AND LAWSSEZ?
WHAT IS THAT GOOFUS, YOU OLD GOOF…-US!?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Your 2009 Opening Day starter at second base*: Eugenio Velez
*For the Fresno Grizzlies
The Randy Unit Forecast
IP: 150
ERA: 4.2
K: 120
BB: 55
HRA: 18
W-L: 10-10
IP: 182
ERA: 4.12
K: 156
BB: 65
HRA: 19
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 16, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions
being at work is the worst
i’m in a goddamn suit right now. boo.
26 starts
168 IP
12-7 record
3.29 ERA
151 K
37 BB
11 HRA
gameday penis jokes about the Big Unit Randy Johnson- one hundred twenty seven.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
127….. per game
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Your 2009 Opening Day starter at second base*: Eugenio Velez
*For the Fresno Grizzlies
IP: 192
ERA: 4.08
K: 180
BB: 42
HRA: 16
Look in your heart.
What heart?
<BANG!>
Miller’s Crossing FTW, baby!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
So Randy just has to squeeze a few into the Honey Smacks, and Sanchez will let him go? Wait, what?
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 16, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
IP: 210
ERA: 3.35
K: 200
BB: 50
HRA: 18
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
If RJ produces these numbers SF should give him a raise. RJ was signed to give the Giants at least 180 IP from the #2 slot. Anything less is disappointing.
Yeah, unless those magic crystals actually work
He’s not going to repeat 2001 numbers
by Great Success! on Feb 16, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
IP: 171
ERA: 3.85
K: 164
BB: 55
HRA: 14
Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.
by Little Napoleon on Feb 16, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions
IP: 180.6667
ERA: 3.68
K: 165
BB: 90
HRA: 15
- of that Pole Dancing Randy Johnson trading card pic in gameday threads: 45
that 1. should have been a pound sign.. SBN n00b fail.
by DividedByZero on Feb 16, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Umm Grant?
Are those RJ’s numbers or Timmy’s? Seriously, if RJ is that good this year, it’s going to be very fun to watch the Giants.
Anyways, my extremely uninformed opinion:
~180 IP
3.96 ERA
165 K
80 BB
20 HRA
Not bad for what you’re paying IMHO. Here’s hoping he’s truly shutdown material, though
Randy Johnson
IP: 169
ERA: 3.14
K: 177
BB: 43
HRA: 15
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
Unit
IP: 192
ERA: 2.98
K: 204
BB: 40
HRA: 20
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Randy Johnson Contract
He has an $8MM base with $2.5MM in performance bonus and another $2.5MM in award bonus. Does anyone know how the performance bonus is going to be paid out? At how many IP does the first performance bonus monies kick in? How about the the other IP performance bonus monies?
Will he get $250k for 120 IP ? And another $250k for each incremental 20 IP all the way up to 200 IP?
What did you expect from a public education?
That would only add up to $1.25MM. So he is either getting more monies per performance bonus levels or the performance bonus levels for IP begin earlier than 120 IP. Sweet deal.
IP: 175
ERA: 4.00
K: 150
BB: 45
HRA: 19
Ouch, can’t sit down
Giant Dirtbags: Brian Anderson, Todd Jennings, Steve Hammond, John Bowker
Don't F with the Affeldt
by Giant among Angels on Feb 16, 2009 6:51 PM PST reply actions
Cy Youngs?
Does anyone recall why Clemens beat Johnson in the voting for 2004 Cy Young Award? I guess “pitched for a playoff team.”
Kent. Hall of Famer. Giant.
Easy – 18-4 compared to 16-14, though the team wins factor also had something to do with it, I’m sure. Remember, most BBWAA voters are idiots.
by Missing Barry on Feb 16, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Fixed
Remember, most BBWAA voters are idiots.
This is the reason all those awards are bullshit. Unless they’re given to Barry or Timmy
The BBWAA writers DID give the Cy to Lincecum, despite Brandon Webb having more winz. So apparently they aren’t complete idiots.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
2nd sentence?
More like “first sentence fragment!”
I keed…
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Your 2009 Opening Day starter at second base*: Eugenio Velez
*For the Fresno Grizzlies
Webb shouldn’t have really been in the discussion at all, other than wins his numbers weren’t Cy worthy. Johan, however, had a pretty compelling case and was mostly ignored by the idiots. Lincecum obviously was too good to give it to anyone else, so they HAD to vote for him…
by Missing Barry on Feb 17, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Johan was really good
but Timmy was really really UNBELIEVABLY AWESOMELY good.
by bondslegend on Feb 17, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
I know, but somebody had to do it.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 16, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
IP: 142
ERA: 3.05
K: 127
BB: 37
HRA: 13
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio. The 28th best prospect in all the land!
it's not just presidents' day
it’s my thirtieth birthday. um. yay.
what have i got myself into this time... http://damiansthirtyyearchallenge.blogspot.com/
by alea iacta est on Feb 16, 2009 8:54 PM PST reply actions
can this old randy johnson keep it up?
IP: 172
ERA: 3.92
K: 163
BB: 49
HRA: 22
non-bocock johnson jokes: priceless
by lincypoo i wuv u on Feb 16, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply actions
RUSH for a change of atmosphere
It seems to me
I could live my life
A lot better than I think I am
I guess that’s why they call me
They call me the working man
The intimidation factor , while somewhat diminished , is still there.
I hope for the love of all that’s holy he keeps his somewhat diminished fastball down – the last time I saw him pitch he got knocked out by the San Francisco Giants , faChrissakes.
Johnson has a reputation for really closing himself off on days he pitches. Unless we outdo offensive predictions I can’t see him becoming any friendlier once we settle into our , uh , place in the NL West TempestTeapot pecking order and he sees what he’s bought into for a year , so…
Yearly total of words spoken to teammates on start dates: 3
I’m BLANKING – er , BANKING on Randy bearing down on Arizona out of some twisted sense of pride. Those cheap bastards.
OK if I adopt Randy Johnson?
"What kind of a stupid question is that?"
by victor frankenstein on Feb 17, 2009 3:45 AM PST reply actions
Rush lyrics
you just started my day off right, sir. kudos.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 17, 2009 7:07 AM PST up reply actions
IP: 180
ERA: 3.87
K: 161
BB: 60
HRA: 14
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Feb 17, 2009 6:06 AM PST reply actions
SCARSONE says...
IP: 172
ERA: 4.14
K: 158
BB: 60
HRA: 18
*NTTLICLU: 84
I expect him to be much better at home than on the road (big ERA and W-L splits), and I’d expect one brief stint on the DL.
*Number of times Tim Lincecum is called “Little Unit”
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.
Брайен sabean, ваш полу – сознательная картофельная поездка поперек “Золотой Вороты” демократический тротуар принесет коммунистическую гордость к оранжевому и черному демократическому совершенству. ваш рандай johnson – шпион для российской мафии. остерегайтесь остерегаются!
купите smirnoff водку
i adopt brian sabean... take that dramatic irony!
by Headhunter Rollins on Feb 17, 2009 7:24 AM PST reply actions
Вылетел из Майами Бич BOAC
Не попасть в постели прошлой ночью
Ах, как бумажный пакет был на моем колене
Человек, у меня был ужасный полет
Я еще в СССР
Вы не знаете, как мне повезло ты, мальчик
Назад в СССР, да
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
this from translation2.paralink.com
Scourge BOAC has taken off from Miami
To not get in bed at the last night
Ah, as the paper package was on my knee
The person, at me was awful flight
I in the USSR
You do not know, how to me you have carried, the boy
Back in the USSR, yes
[Brayen] of sabean, your semi- conscious potato trip across "to gold winches" democratic pavement will bring Communist pride to the orange and black democratic perfection. your [randay] of Johnson – spy for the Russian Mafia. warn yourselves they warn themselves! you will purchase smirnoff the vodka
by Headhunter Rollins on Feb 17, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
I like this game
Его глаза – как они сосредоточены! Его шляпа законопроект, так согнута!
Его поставки отлично; Плохо hitters покаяться!
Его правая рука пошла назад и растягивается, как лук
А его борода была бы badass, если бороду он может расти
Он закачивается два Роллинз, а затем упал молоток
Роллинз, поймал нетерпением, осталось заикание
Чейз Utley закончившийся подачи, махнув на Fastball великолепно
Вы заслуживаете быть поражены из, если ваше имя в глагол
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
Translated by Babelfish...
[Brayen] of sabean, your semi- conscious potato trip across "to gold winches" democratic pavement will bring Communist pride to the orange and black democratic perfection. your [randay] of Johnson – spy for the Russian Mafia. warn yourselves they warn themselves! you will purchase smirnoff the vodka
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 17, 2009 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
good going one way, not so good coming back…but still damned funny
i adopt brian sabean... take that dramatic irony!
by Headhunter Rollins on Feb 17, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, people seem to be really, really optimistic about this guy. Weird. I didn’t know Giants fans were allowed to participate in this sort of positive thinking.
I’d say anything better than 150 innings/4.00 ERA would be pretty great.
Whoa
I miss a day (because of work and going to sleep right after) and I’m lagging…..
Um, so for RJ:
175 IP
3.82 ERA
162 K’s
60 K’s
18 HRA
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Your 2009 Opening Day starter at second base*: Eugenio Velez
*For the Fresno Grizzlies
meh
180 IP
4.20 ERA
166 SO
40 BB
23 HRA
i’ll be happy to be wrong
"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"
by The Gene Hackman on Feb 17, 2009 11:52 AM PST reply actions
IP: 190
ERA: 3.25
K’s: 185
BB’s: 30
HRA: 20
300th Win: 6/12/09 @ Arizona
Someone get Damon Minor's agent on the phone stat!
by fanofvanlandingham on Feb 17, 2009 12:48 PM PST reply actions
irrelevant post
"Hampton’s heartbeat clears up on its own (AP) "
Uh, I don’t think his heartbeat “clearing up” is a good thing… unless you’re the Rockies ca. Y2K.
my turn
IP: 170
ERA: 3.82
K’s: 165
BB’s: 45
HRA: 15
My realistic projections, but i hope some of these 3.20, 2.98 projections come true
Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?
IP: 178
ERA: 3.68
K: 160
BB’s: 55
HRA: 14
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Feb 19, 2009 10:45 AM PST reply actions
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