The Grudge
I would like your help to compile a list of the grudges that our favorite GM has held or continues to hold.
Please add a player (or anything else for that matter; maybe he really doesn't like Rush for no good reason) in the comments below and then reply to said comment with the reason(s) that Sabean holds/held a grudge. Links and/or pictures would be beneficial - LOLCats are also acceptable. This should be a time-capsule depicting the mind of a child and I suspect there will be some discussion of pie as well.
I will start...
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Kevin Frandsen
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something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 9, 2009 11:00 PM PST reply actions
Fucked Sabean’s wife, daughter, cat, sofa, coffee cup, favorite putter, homemade apple pie, and Bochy.
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FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
But not Sabean.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
well, maybe
“Gee Brian, this kind of thing never happened to me before…”
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 5:39 AM PST up reply actions
Didn’t do reverse cowboy properly.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Jose Cruz, Jr.
Signed for one year, he provided 3.6 wins. A gold-glover, he dropped a key flyball in a playoff game and was never seen again.
I believe that this is a theme. Giants players not performing in playoff/key situations has gotten them banished, but I can’t think of the other situations. Any help?
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 9, 2009 11:06 PM PST reply actions
Sorry, that was 3.6 wins above replacement. One of the better signings Sabean ever made…
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 9, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I really liked Cruz Jr. and I still lament the fact that he dropped ONE flyball in the playoffs (and he had more than a small part in getting us there) and apparently that means he sucks.
He dropped 2 flyballs (actually can’t remember if the other one was a drop or just a bad misplay)….
by Missing Barry on Dec 10, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
Agree. Plus, I don’t think he was productive after he left.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 10, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Guess he had a WAR of 2 in ’04 then that was about it.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 10, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I blame him
it’s HIS job to be cold and calculating
it’s OUR job to be hot and emotional
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Felix Rodriquez (game 6) and Dusty Baker (also game 6)
Cody Ransom (booted a routine grounder ahead of the Finley GS I believe, in elimination game of the 2004 season) and Dustin Hermanson, who dished up said grand slam.
"If we had signed Guerrero or Sheffield, we would have been without Brower, Eyre, Herges, Hermanson,Tomko,Pierzynski, Feliz, Snow,Hammonds, Mohr and Tucker–obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint"--B Sabean
by seyheystretch on Dec 10, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
John Bowker
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 9, 2009 11:06 PM PST reply actions
Fred Lewis
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 9, 2009 11:07 PM PST reply actions
for Telling Bochy That He Was Not Comfortable Hitting Leadoff.
by giantsrainman on Dec 9, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
you forgot to capitalize “for”. Don’t start slippin now
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by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 10, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
for knowing how to get on base
taking walks is “cheap”
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
That movie scared the crap out of me.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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A reason to get an LED tv.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
The Japanese version?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2009 6:56 AM PST up reply actions
I thought Ju On was kind of silly.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
The little kid and the scary lady freaked me out, but otherwise meh.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
I never watched Ju On.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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It’s kind of silly.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I remember reading that somewhere!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Probably Entertainment Weekly or something.
Plus, Sam Raimi said it was the scariest movie that anybody had ever made ever, so it must be at least a little silly.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Sarah Michelle Gellar’s acting can be pretty frightening.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
She’s not a bad actor, honestly, but you wouldn’t know it based on her movies.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
good as Buffy
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
That’s presumably what howie was basing his statement on.
Unless he’s a big fan of mid-’90s All My Children.
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YOU LEAVE ALL MY CHILDREN OUT OF THIS!!!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
They really jumped ship after Erica Kane’s fifth marriage.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 13, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
but she sure isn't!
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 11, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Joe Nathan
For his deer in the headlights act against florida in the 2003 playoffs.
Livan Hernandez
For game 7 of the 2002 World Series.
Look Up His 2003, 2004, And 2005 Numbers
They were pretty damm good. He would have been the second best SP on the Giants those years.
by giantsrainman on Dec 10, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
I blame Dusty
For making a seventh game necessary (in the season that there wasn’t a world series, naturally)
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
+1
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Uh...
(+1) + (-1) = 0
But I hate math.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
For tricking Sabean into a.) signing Zito and b.) giving him a contract $30M more than the next highest rumored offer….
by Missing Barry on Dec 10, 2009 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
High Priced, talented free agents
For playing the Giants like chumps in the summer of Zito.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 10, 2009 1:25 AM PST reply actions
er… winter of Zito, I mean. Fits better anyway, was certainly the winter of our discontent.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 10, 2009 1:26 AM PST up reply actions
“Now is the discount of our winter tents”
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
The media
How dare they attempt to do their jobs and print rumors on who the Giants are going to sign, like CC Sabathia last year.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Nate
I’m pretty much convinced the staff doesn’t like him because they can’t remember how to spell Schierholtz.
I wish they had had that same philosophy with Pierzynski
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Kevin Frandsen
(see Uribe nee Gonzalez’s reasons) Kevin apparently has carnal knowledge of someone/something close to Sabean, and for this he must be banished.
Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo.
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Les Plack = more chicks
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 10, 2009 8:13 AM PST reply actions
You can’t hold a grudge against something that doesn’t exist.
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
It doesn't exist
Only because we haven’t seen it in a little over half a decade
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
Todd Linden?
Always thought the dude could have been at least an average, cheap regular with a little thump, but it seemed like they’d promote him, then send him back to Fresno when he struggled/they realized he wasn’t the second coming.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
i think fresno is the problem, it makes people bad at all sorts of things
Les Plack = more chicks
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 10, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
METH VALLEY!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
The lunatic fringe
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Jeff Kent's truck
I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.
by The Thrill on Dec 10, 2009 1:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions
benito santiago and possibly bengie molina
Benito wanted to resign a 2 year deal for a tad too much money, but the giants dumped him in a N.Y. min. and sent over 3 pitchers including Nathan, for A.J. doubleplay Pierzinski, who could only bash balls attached to a giants trainer. Did he creep out as a giants player or what. We could have had Benito. Not sure why we did not go to arbitration with Bengie. One year wudda been just right as long as he did not hit in the middle of the order. and as part of his contract, he had to pay a fine each time he swung at a ball in the dirt.
He Sucked In KC In 2004 - Replacing Him Was Teh Right Move
The Giants just choose poorly with regards to what they paid to replace him.
by giantsrainman on Dec 10, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, batting a fat, slow sub .300 OBP catcher in the cleanup spot totally relays your intense hatred for him!
No, he got injured in Kansas.
Might not have happenned if he stayed in SF. If getting rid of him was right, than why do I feel the resultant moves were so wrong?
Torrealaba
was the guy who was irrationally hated. Santiago was D.U.N. I think going to arb with Bengie would have been a close decision… it’s hardly like Sabes is showing a grudge there.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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It seems to me that Sabean really appreciated Bengie’s contributions to the team, and didn’t offer arbitration because he felt it would be disrespectful. Both in terms of the expectation of Bengie relinquishing his job to Posey and in terms of only wanting to give him a one year deal, because Sabes thinks he should get more. That’s not a grudge, as far as I can tell.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
It begins and ends with....
Edgardo Alfonzo.
From that point on it was all down hill in a heaping pile of gritty gamer veterans not performing.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
the internet
because it allows us “laymen” to have a better understanding of statistics and player value than he does
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.

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