Winter Meetings, Day Three: A Byrd in the hand is worth, like, $2M, tops.
by Grant on Dec 9, 2009 11:31 AM PST
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With Twitter mavens bringing in every stray rumor written on the bathroom wall, this year's Winter Meetings are insufferable. Don't like a player? Don't think he'd be a good fit? Well, people from the St. Olaf Bugler, USA Today, and The Economist are all tweeting that the Giants are extremely interested in that player. Blood pressure up, lucidity down, and we're only 40% through the week.
The rumors make for a neat little fantasyworld, even though there's no way to discern which ones are legit. Brian Sabean might have called the Padres and said something like, "Hey, we have two guys I don't really want to make room for on my bench. Are you giving Kevin Kouzmanoff away?" and the Padres might have chuckled, but the rumor is filtered as: "GIANTS IN ON KOUZ; PADS NOT WACKY ABOUT FRANDSO AND FLEW" by the time newsies are singing it on the the street corners.
And it's tough to take quotes seriously, even when they're straight from the source. There's nothing to gain by raising expectations. After the breathless C.C. Sabathimania of last year's offseason -- the next person to mention a "hometown discount" gets an oyster fork to the throat -- there's no reason for Sabean to say, "Oh, yeah, we have the money for someone like Jason Bay or Matt Holliday. We hope they like us. Are they looking at us? DON'T LOOK! Oh my god, did they see you? Are they looking at us? We totally like them." If those tires need kicking, it's best if they're kicked in the dark when no one else is looking.
If the best options don't like us like us, though, there's also nothing to gain by saying things like...
Man, if we have to start Eugenio Velez in left, we are screwed. Like, totally screwed. And we don't really think Edgar Renteria can still play, by the by. He's done, but, what, are we going to try Brian Bocock again?
It makes sense that the Giants would express faith in the fallback options and the de facto starters, even if there isn't a whole lot of supporting evidence behind the words.
(At this point, my post turned into another 500-word screed against a front office that believes Eugenio Velez is a viable corner outfielder on a team trying to improve an offense. It really did, and it included the words "freak jousting accident" and "spindly baserunning nonsense." I'm not really sure what it had to do with the Winter Meetings, but that's what this time of year does to a fella. The screed will be included on the second disc of the McCovey Chronicles DVD.)
So now that we've established that there's nothing worth believing, the Giants are linked to Marlon Byrd, Mike Cameron, Nick Johnson, Adrian Beltre, Mark DeRosa, and maybe even Jason Bay. But not Jermaine Dye, which is disinterest I want to believe in, but I just can't yet. I'd be fine with most of those names on one-year deals, begrudgingly accepting of most on two-year deals, and mortified at anything at three years and beyond for anyone not named Matt Holliday. Well, and Jason Bay, but I don't want to admit that, lest I be beaten with a UZR stick. Those things hurt.
Winter Meetings Day Three Continuation Thread.
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Byrd on the floor
I’m liking the Byrd idea … I mean, his capacity to filibuster ALONE could win us dozens extra games next year.
by PDXorangeandblack on Dec 9, 2009 11:34 AM PST reply actions
But he’s like 106 years old… GRITTY GAMER!!!
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
You say you've seen grit and hustle
And your Byrd can hit
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Grits are pretty good with maple syrup on them
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Not as fun as it sounds, actually.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Stickier, I suppose.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Or brown sugar!
mmmmm i love me some grits
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Thanks to roger
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Dang, should have gone for that one.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I watched him take BP
I know why the caged Byrd swings
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
We should sign him, then trade him to LA
I always wanted to flip the Byrd to the Dodgers.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
If he hangs out with Timmy...
Byrd flying high
But, if I signed here with you Sabes,
Swings just couldn’t be the same.
Cause I’m as free as a Byrd now,
And this Byrd you’ll never change
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, Brian Sabean is doing an online chat at 1
Maybe we should come up with questions that he won’t answer. Or not.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Over the past five years, your team has finished no higher than 11th in the NL in runs scored. Do you believe this is due to poor luck, or have you needed to change your organizational philosophy?
You know
Whatever way he answered that, I’m sure it would make me want to strangle him. Or borrow Grant’s seafood utensils.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
It’s a legit question that no one asks. Why have you finished below the league average for five straight years? Did you pick the wrong players? Have you picked the right players,but they’ve had disappointing performances? Have your best ideas been overturned by ownership? Give us a clue, please.
I agree
But I know he would go into what-the-fuck-speak. Like he’s diplomatically defending something, but since there’s no defense, he just has to make it as hard to understand as possible. Better for people to be scratching their heads than for your idiocy to be transparent, I guess.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
He was hamstrung by trying to build around Bonds. Then after Bonds the homegrown players like Fred Lewis, and John Bowker have not produced like they hoped. Also, the injuries to Rowand and Renteria have limited their production but this year will be different.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
He was hamstrung by trying to build around Bonds.
Was he really, though? Was he?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
having the best player on the planet is NOT a problem
give me a break
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
he clogged the bases!
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I think offering stats that don’t put the Giants (and his decisions) in a positive light will be met with the same resistance and petulance he has demonstrated in the past. He’ll use rankings and ‘glamor stats’ to justify his decisions that we deem poor and discard them in the next breath when things don’t work out. This is not a Sabean-only trait, pretty sure all human beings are like this.
I've never liked the human nature defense
But in Sabean’s case, I really wouldn’t like it, because so many people can agree on the failings. A man that is capable of learning, and becoming wiser, would be quicker to just recognize that he can, you know, be wrong.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I’m trying to think of a single time when Sabean admitted he was wrong.
I’m failing.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
It would go a long way with the fan base but to the best of my knowledge, he’s never owned up to his mistakes. Much less apologized for them.
I guess that’s how you become the longest tenured GM in baseball.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I wish I were his boss
It’s not typically that easy to dramatically improve an organization with one simple decision.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Wait, he’s not the longest tenured GM, is he? Oh, shit, with Towers gone, maybe he is.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Although he hasn’t busted out in tears or dramtically fallen on his swoard, I think he’s admitted signings haven’t worked out as they hoped with guys like Roberts, Morris and Renteria.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
He’s repeatedly said Renteria sucked because he was playing hurt. He also praised Renteria FOR playing hurt. Sigh.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
That would be my question.
“Can you admit to being wrong about anything?”
by AmorVincitOmnia on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
It's happened
Anyone remember the famous call after the season a few years ago? Sabean was on with Ralph and Tom, Ralph kept harping on the same failings of certain players, and Sabean kept saying, “The shortcomings of this team are on me, not on any particular player.”
I had this mp3 for a long time. I’m going to have to try and dig it up again.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I'd like to hear that
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Yeah, so would I. That’s actually what I was looking for, him saying that the awful lineups are on him.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Well
if he HAS said that, then it’s even more inexcusable that he hasn’t changed the way he’s built the team.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
SO frickin' true...
I have to dig that sound byte up. I might have it still on an old work computer.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
WHY IS BOCOCK?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Who did Kevin Frandsen do?
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He filled in for the chef one day
And was clearly no good at tossing Sabean’s salad.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Giants finished last in the majors in OBP, third to last in SLG, last in OPS. So are we really going to start Velez?
F. the Lewis.
My old Fantasy Sports strategy was to pooch a few stats so I could load up on others. My team is getting a lot of steals, but I can get more if I get a player with a bad OBP? And my team’s overall OBP is kind of middle of the road? Clearly, I need the steals. I won’t be winning the OBP category anyway.
Strangely enough, this made my teams bad. I’m still trying to figure out why.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
That can work with saves
not sure there are any other categories you can really afford to punt though. I never go after closers (in all my one years of experience), because they only REALLY help in one category.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
My teams usually do quite well despite being average or worse in steals.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
yeah,
steals and saves are probably the least “valuable”, just because a lot of times you have to go after guys who ONLY do those 2 things. It’s rare to find a guy who will give you a lot of steals and not hurt your SLG or OBP or whatever other stats your league uses.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Here's my question that won't be answered
Your tenure has been marked by intense criticism by a segment of fans who you have dismissed as a “lunatic fringe.” In particular, you were intensely criticized for the following remark in 2004:
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Jim] Brower, [Scott] Eyre, [Matt] Herges, [Dustin] Hermanson, [Brett] Tomko, [A.J.] Pierzynski, [Pedro] Feliz, [J.T.] Snow, [Jeffrey] Hammonds, [Dustan] Mohr and [Michael] Tucker—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Vladimir Guerrero was the American League MVP the next season, few of the players you listed made any meaningful contributions to the Giants, and Pierzynski in particular was a disaster. Shortly thereafter. Do you still stand by this line of reasoning? If so, please explain why the players you listed were more valuable than Vladimir Guerrero.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Dec 9, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
SABEAN: With all due respect, when you add up all those fancy OBP numbers and new-fangeled stats of that list of players we got all for the cost of one guy, the sum is much, much greater than what Guerrero would have produced. And MLB demands that we have a 25 man roster. What did you want me to do? Call up minor leaguers?
"…this thing which tells time."
Like Sabean would
I wrecked that question
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Giants FO is not UZR-friendly
Get it?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
You down with OBP? Not Bruce Bochy!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Hell is UZR people!
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
it included the words “freak jousting accident” and “spindly baserunning nonsense.”
It should also include Cornerstone Of The Franchise.
F. the Lewis.
I wish I could pun on this
But apparently one thing Velez is not is lazy, and I’m guessing he’s not a lesbian either.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
He does like Tigers.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
But he is Velousy at getting on base.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
It makes sense that the Giants would express faith in the fallback options and the de facto starters, even if there isn’t a whole lot of supporting evidence behind the words.
As opposed to, say:
“We don’t want to say that Shaun Hill is our starter. We’ll see how it plays out. We kind of think he sucks, actually, and we hope that Alex Smith takes his jorb in the offseason, rather than forcing us to wait 5 and a half games to make the switch.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
oops did i drop that?
oops i fumbled
oh well
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If Alex Smith had some more je ne sais quois, those other players wouldn’t have made those mistakes.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Alex Smith’s small hands caused Brandon Jones to drop the handoff on that flea-flicker-reverse-dipsy-do punt return.
HOLY SHIT THAT PLAY STILL FUCKING PISSES ME OFF
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Whilst tripping over one’s own feet, it is better not to continue to try and hand the ball off, no?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
WHY ARE YOU RUNNING A FUCKING REVERSE WHEN YOUR RETURNERS HAVENT EVEN BEEN ABLE TO PROPERLY CATCH THE BALL AND YOU'RE ALREADY DOMINATING THE GAME OMGOMGOMGOMG FUCK
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
It was a “miscommunication.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
The goatee sucks up all the je ne sais quois.
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It doesn’t actually suck it up. It just catches it. Like crumbs from a sandwich.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
FREEBYRD!
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Follow That Bird
Saddest movie ever made
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
I had conveniently buried my traumatic memories of that movie until just now. Excuse me while I shoot up my backyard.
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My parents had no business showing me that movie
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Well, well...
Padres Expected To Non-Tender Kevin Correia
By Tim Dierkes [December 9 at 1:37pm CST]
WEDNESDAY, 1:36pm: ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick tweets that Correia declined the Padres’ final contract offer and has been told he’ll be non-tendered by the Saturday deadline.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
POUNCE
Boof too. That would be rad.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Russ Ortiz would be interested in that…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
There are some stoops to which I will not depth
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
REUNION TOUR!
/“Tom Sawyer”
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I'd prefer
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
3 years, 6 dollars?
are they trying to spend as little money, or lose as many games as possible next year?
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
Oyster fork to the throat, dick in the ear
Grant’s gettin’ saucy!!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
He actually just got the two mixed it. It’s supposed to be an oyster fork to the ear and a dick in the throat.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t get ahead of things. Before he puts anything in that box, he has to cut a hole in the box.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Using a ballpoint pen to poke a hole in the box would probably work for Sabean.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
It’s the llamas.
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Grant’s boss sometimes gets on his computer while Grant’s away and makes amusing, usually nonsensical posts under Grant’s login. Often these involve llamas. It’s terrific.
That helps. I was also curious about the screen minimize/lock conversations.
"…this thing which tells time."
Dude, everyone knows that it’s all about the vicunas.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Don't know if this has been covered
1:07pm: MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro tweets that we should not rule out the Giants on Uggla – “there is still smoke.” He notes that the Marlins never asked for Madison Bumgarner in return.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
Yo Marlins
Take Frandsen already and get your Fransvestites on!
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Just because the Marlins haven’t asked for MadBum, it doesn’t preclude Sabean from offering him
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
How about the BYRD/FLEW platoon?
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Dec 9, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I Know Why The Caged Bird Will Probably Revert To A Sub-90 OPS+
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
why does the caged byrd swing?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
His at-bat song
If he gets hot in the first half and fade away in the second half a la Rowand, they should blast “Why Do Byrds Disappear?” each time he hits.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
why is he wearing a sweater under that cabana wear?
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Paul Byrd, Marlon Byrd ...
Nick Johnson, Reed Johnson, Randy Johnson …
Why is Brian Bocock …
Hmm. Marketing?
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Just found out MLB allows draft picks to be traded.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
Rule 5
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 9, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Any reason why Sabes hasn’t pulled the trigger on the Rowand/Bradley deal? Maybe he wants to pull off the Lincecum/Andrus, Borbon, Feliz, Smoak deal?
it'll never happen
He loves his gritty gamer and would never trade him for an attitude problem.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Too much sense for one team = no sense at all on the other
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 9, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Arianna isn’t too bad for her age… I’d hit that (after a few shots + worm)
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t get her. I don’t trust her. I suspect her of being a better-connected Michaele Salahi.
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So you didn’t get any play in high school?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Well sure, who hasn’t. But violence is not the answer.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That really depends on the question, doesn’t it?
For instance, “What eight letter English word begins with the letters v-i and end with c-e?”
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
‘vibrance’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
I would assume because
the cubs aren’t dumb enough to take Rowand, or Sabean is too dumb to realize that Bradley is better
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Do not know if the globe is heating up but Indy seems to be heating up and should be on fire by evening
Who knew
That the Brewers and Seattle are the active teams this year in the FA market. I guess Seattle is feeling that the Angels will be weaker this year and Milwaukee is thinking they need to strike while they have Braun/Prince?
You think Milwaukee could consider Cain for Fielder?
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CAIN 4 JJ HARDY!!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
MIL & SEA are college freshman looking to do a makeover on their image now that they’re out of high school.
NYY are still the golden boys who will never have a care in the world.
NYM are the big spenders in lots of debt trying to figure out how they’ll pay for school.
SFG are cut from the same cloth as Chevy Chase’s character in “Community.”
xoxo
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dammit ... anyway, respectively:
Jenny Humphries
Chuck Bass
Blair Waldorf
Serene van der Woodsen
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Padres are the nerds no one will talk to
Rockies are the fat kid who sometimes catches a break (get it? Fat = Inflated)
Dodgers are the serial rapists
Diamondbacks are the kid the eats glue and no one can remember their name
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
MIL & SEA are about to put on “the freshman 40”
NYY are the spoiled rich kids who are obsessed with material, yet never value it
NYM are flashing bling bling, but they’ll never amount to shit
SFG are acutely aware that both they and Chevy Chase was much better many years ago when they were on drugs
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Chat question
Brian Sabean, whose distinguished baseball pedigree and shrewd player acquisitions have transformed the Giants into the National League’s fourth-winningest team over the past 12 seasons, was named San Francisco’s senior vice president and general manager Sept. 30, 1996. By stewarding the Giants to four post season berths during his 13 years at the helm, he has guided the club to half of its eight playoff appearances over its first 52 seasons in San Francisco.
Did you write that yourself, Brian?
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 12:28 PM PST reply actions
By stewarding the Giants to four post season berths during his 13 years at the helm
How many teams have made it to the postseason as often or more in the same period? Several, at least.
he has guided the club to half of its eight playoff appearances over its first 52 seasons in San Francisco.
Notice how they leave out the part about how the playoffs expanded just a couple of seasons before he took over.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Who he inherited and supposedly considered a hinderance.
Sigh.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
IS that anything like being handcuffed to (insert beautiful woman here)
"…this thing which tells time."
I’m not sure she’s gonna fit.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Since 97.
Atlanta 9 St. Louis Cardinals 7 Houston 6 Chicago Cubs 4 Los Angeles Dodgers 4 San Francisco 4 Arizona Diamondbacks 4 Philadelphia Phillies 3 San Diego 3 New York Mets 3 Colorado Rockies 2 Florida 2 Milwaukee Brewers 1
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 9, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Yankees 12 Red Sox 8 Angels 6 Clevland 5 Twins 5 Oakland 5 Mariner 3 White Sox 3 Rangers 2 Baltimore 1 Tigers 1 Tampa 1
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 9, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think so, Tim.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Tied for 4th Best
Number of NL playoff appearances at BEST!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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pls keep posting
for those of us without mlb accounts
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Teams besides the Giants that have made the playoffs 4 or more times since 1997
- Yankees
- Red Sox
- Braves
- Astros
- Indians
- Cubs
- A’s
- Twins
- Angels
- Diamondbacks
- Dodgers
The Mariners missed doing so by 2 games in 2003.
LOL SABEAN’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
My God…it’s like they have no concept of relativity.
“4 out of 12 is good, that’s like 33 percent! What? Other teams with a similar payroll have been much more successful? Look, over there, it’s a bird!”
/runs away
orioles nearing deal with millwood
adding 12 million in salary would take them out of the running for uggla, no?
Yup. He should eat a lot of innings for them.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 9, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
If the rumors are true
That the Marlins turned down a Smoak/Feliz for Johnson offer, I don’t understand what we could possibly give Florida in a Johnson deal without really hurting ourselves for next year.
why would we want josh johnson?
we want smoak and feliz!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Garrett Atkins
will soon be non tendered, and would be available for much less than any other option out there. Anyone think he’d be a good fit for the Giants?
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 9, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions
Not me.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Grab some pine.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 9, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
looks shopped
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Sabean's reaction to the Yankees/Tigers/Dbacks trade:
What?? Oh yeah, right, like you can make a trade with three teams!!! Ha, that’s rich…I got your first drink at the bar…
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 9, 2009 12:47 PM PST reply actions
The Padres released righty Eulogio De La Cruz
Imagine having a team with both a Eulogio and Eugenio!
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
tweet tweet
Ken_Rosenthal
Giants, Mariners still on N. Johnson. Neither, however, offering 2-yr deal he is seeking.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Enh. I can’t see Pill’s ceiling being much higher than what Ishikawa is already.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Context
Respective seasons, age 24-25
Ishikawa, Connecticut/Fresno: .299 / .377 / .578, 24 HR, 49 BB, 81 K in 469 PA
Pill, Connecticut: .298 / .348 / .480, 19 HR, 37 BB, 72 K in 527 PA
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
BUT DODD!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 9, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Sorta
He played about 135 games in AA combined between 2006 and 2007. Like I said, though, he was the same age as Pill.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
And FWIW
Brett Pill had also played about the same number of games in Connecticut prior to 2009. 131 games for him, 134 for Ishikawa.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
this was the first season for Pill in AA and he was successful. He is following up his fine AA season with a successful stint in winter ball
You’re right, I was misreading his b-r profile.
He was pretty awful in San Jose last year, though.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Correct
the rap on Pill was that he only had doubles power. 2009 was his breakout season. He needs to continue to improve
His “breakout” season wasn’t as good as what guys like Ishikawa and Bowker were doing in Connecticut at the same age, though. Color me unimpressed.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
One year… good
More than one year… mistake
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
it might take 2 years to get 140 games out of him
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Am i the only one who thinks 2 years isn't that bad?
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
no
I’d be ok with it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah
I know he’s an injury risk, but he’s not THAT old, and OBP isn’t a skill that really declines that much with age, right?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I didn't want to say anything until jponry chimed in, for fear of being labeled a dolt...
But I thought two years wouldn’t be that bad. Give Angel enough time to make the majors in 2012!
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 9, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
woohoo the head honcho agrees with me
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Everybody knows jponry is the head honcho here.
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I thought she was the Jenny Macho?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
How do we know that’s really Grant? I mean, the absence of llama references is telling, but still…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
I assumed getting Johnson would require two years. And I’m okay with it, as long as we aren’t talking stupid money.
"…this thing which tells time."
i'd do it
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Johnson Injury History:
2002: 129 games. Healthy.
2003: 96 games. From May 15 to July 25, Johnson was on the disabled list due to a stress fracture in his right hand
2004: 73 games. He could not play until May 28 because of a back injury. Season was ended by a ball hit to first that took a bad hop and broke his cheekbone
2005: 131 games. Healthy
2006/2007: 147 games/0 games. Played most of the year then: On September 23, 2006, playing against the New York Mets at Shea Stadium, Johnson and right fielder Austin Kearns collided while attempting to catch a fly ball. Johnson sustained a broken femur and underwent surgery that night to repair the injury.6 He missed the entire 2007 season.
2008: 38 games. Sustained a tear in a ligament on the ulnar side of his wrist and missed the rest of the 2008 season.
2009: 133 games. Healthy
His current walk up music is Teardrops On My Guitar by Taylor Swift.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
that's a lot of broken bones
Seems to me like more freak accidents than recurring injuries.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, me too
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Or osteogenesis imperfecta.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Mr. Glass!
Zincecaingarnerchez (Zins-ě-keyn-gahrnər-chez)
1. A five-headed monster that turns grown men's legs into jelly.
2003: fragility
2004: fragility/freak
2006/2007: freak
2008: age/fragility
"…this thing which tells time."
1 year deal with option for a 2nd for NJ
It’s obvious his health is the biggest concern for all interested teams and it looks like nobody will offer him a 2 year deal so 1+1 might work for both parties.
The option for the 2nd year will kick in once he reaches 400 plate appearances in 2010 and it sounds fair as Johnson can prove he’s healthy enough for that while the Giants will reward him with a 2nd year for slightly more money.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
GIT R DUN SABEZ BRAZ
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Just got a voicemail from my Aunt...
asking if I want a signed baseball from “Kelvin Franden”
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
did she mean kevin escobar?
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
LOL FRANDSEN
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
my uncle once asked me if i wanted to go to a signing by local hero trent doffler, the fresno state qb
i still call him doffler
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Kelvin
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
treal_jay:
4:01 pm Brian, position player-wise, what are the Giants most critical needs in order of high to lowest priority?
Brian_Sabean:
4:02 pm Regardless of position we need to improve our offense. Pablo will be the fourth hitter and we will need to be able to place someone in back and in front of him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:03 PM PST reply actions
Sadly, I think that WAS a direct answer…
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
He probably has a script and is cutting and pasting
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 9, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
i think it is joe morgan typing for him
someone should do a"fire joe morgan" type send up of sabean
a website called “fire brian sabean” has a nice ring to it
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
So we have a cleanup hitter and we need to put guys in the 3rd and 5th spot in the order, as opposed to leaving them empty I guess. Cool.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
obvious TWSS troll is obvious
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Huh
No answers have shown up for me yet. I’d better reload or something.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah, still just getting the Welcome To Chat message over and over. I guess I’ll have to go with the cut-and-pastes here.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
k90sdrk:
4:02 pm do you think posey is ready to catch at the major league level and how consistent will he be in a 162 game season?
Brian_Sabean:
4:04 pm We are not sure. Having said that he is ahead of his own development schedule and has been named the minor league player of the year so it may come to that with him being our catcher and if so we are willing to take that risk. Because he?s played so little professional baseball it?s hard to predict what he will do in his first major league season.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions
someone shake him and yell really loud
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
I think that is a reasonable answer
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, it is.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
it only took 5 days for Sabean to backtrack
“We are not sure” is a far cry from "Nobody thinks he’s ready to catch 100-plus games in the big leagues".
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean is all over the place about Posey the past week or so.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 9, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
mescalbean:
4:07 pm Mr. Sabean, thank you very much for the opportunity to ask a question; my question is this: on the basis of the 2009 season, have the Giants seen enough of Bowker, Ishikawa and Schierholz to determine whether they can be starter-calibre ballplayers?
Brian_Sabean:
4:08 pm Short answer is probably not. Having said that they will be given ample opportunities in spring training to distinguish themselves.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions
Meaning they’re probably not starter caliber or we probably haven’t seen enough of them to know? Holy ambiguous answer, batman!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
ah, spring training
where young players are given a few games to decide the fate of their career.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
“calibre?” are Canadians watching baseball now?
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
is mescal popular there?
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
probably locked up and sold at the state regulated Mescal store
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Oh good
Spring training.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Best means of evaluation!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
does it matter?
we’ll just sign dye and nick johnson, so bowker, ishikawa and schierholz won’t play anyway.
and a lot of this is because why, Brian? the 2009 offensive juggernaut Randy Winn
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 9, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
I asked this question, but it wasn't posted
at the end of the day, how many tires did you kick this winter meeting, and do you think you’re doing enough due diligence?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
LOL
I wonder if he would even get it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
my other question
What must I do to prove to you that by every sabermetric standard (or traditional ones), Eugenio Velez is not an acceptable major league starting LF, much less leading off for the Giants?
Probably won’t be posted either :(
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Objection!
Leading the witness!
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it will probably be answered.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
apparently, it’s softball time
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:11 PM PST reply actions
and 2 in a row!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Dear eddiesf, that's the best question you ask the Giants GM????
eddiesf:
4:08 pm Which team in our division do you think will be the biggest challenge to our ballclub in 2010?
Brian_Sabean:
4:09 pm I?m not sure but the West seemingly has a shot gun start every year. From recent history it?s usually up for grabs every year. Our goal is to be in position to win the division.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions
it's not the Padres!
that leaves 3 other teams, including the fucking Dodgers! Just say the Dodgers and make a commitment to something!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Brian_Sabean: Oh, probably the Braves.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Is it wrong
That I’m stalking MLBTR and MCC because I want to try to dibs adoption of whatever free agent we sign?
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
sorry I know I've asked this before
but can we get a ruling by Goofus about how to divvy up new acquisitions to those of use whose adopted players have been let go?
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
nomobonds:
4:10 pm If both Bumgarner and Posey are on the major league roster next year who in your opinion will be the organizations top minor league prospect?
Brian_Sabean:
4:12 pm Runzler, Joaquin and Martinez have a chance to make our 12-man staff. I’m going to monitor very closely the progress next year with Crawford, Peguero, Neal and Kieschnick.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:13 PM PST reply actions
RUNZLER
EVEN SABEAN KNOWS HE’S BETTER THAN YOU THINK
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
It’s an answer, but not to the question that was actually asked.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
his previous answers were not answers! this one said something! That he actually knows who Peguero is instead of thinking it might be a bottle of French wine in Dick Tidrow’s collection or something
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
It’s a start, I suppose.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
or trevor wilson
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Wheeler maybe?
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
2010 = 2009
sucio1:
4:14 pm Hello Brian, my question is are you confident that if the Giants are not able to fill their needs via free agency and/or trades that you could field a competitive ballclub in 2010?
Brian_Sabean:
4:15 pm Yes, by vitrue of our pitching staff and it’s depth.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions
Brian Sabean is as good with apostrophes as he is with baseball.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Hey nostocksjustbonds, you skipped over a q -
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
sorry. i’ve skipped a few of the lamer ones, like the Uribe one.
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Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
These are the questions that aren’t lame? Geez.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
innocuous is more descriptive.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
I've generally thought I could do a better job as GM
I definitely know I could do a better job with these answers
you'd think these people don't follow the Giants except through Brian Sabean chats.
Sandals:
4:17 pm Since losing Brad Penny to the Cardinals, do you plan on looking for a starting pitcher this off-season? Or would you be comfortable with a rotation that contains both Sanchez and Bumgardner come April?
Brian_Sabean:
4:17 pm Because of Bumgarner’s talent alone he is very capable of being our fifth starter, but much like the Posey situation we want to be sure that we are not rushing him. As a result we will continue to look at other options. Bumgarner very well though could be the fifth starter.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions
tweet from Baggs:
Scott Boras doesn’t buy Giants’ public stance on Matt Holliday. “There are teams that have interest and don’t want anyone to truly know.”
F. the Lewis.
Of course they have interest
Just not at the 200 zillion per year that greedy scumbag Boras will be demanding for him
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 9, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair
Sabean is notoriously silent about stuff like this. You usually don’t hear accurate rumors about sabean’s signings until right before they happened.
I hope we get Holliday.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
There were plenty of rumors about Johnson and Renteria last year.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
This.
When was the last time you heard “playing it close to the vest?” That was sooooo 2003.
"…this thing which tells time."
BORAS:
There are approximately 30 teams with interest and many of them don’t want that interest to be made public.
"…this thing which tells time."
The next day
We’ve gotten some pretty serious interest from NPB teams, various independent leagues, and six strip clubs. I’d put the number of bidders for Holliday at around 230 at this point, so in February we’ll be holding an auction unless someone gives us a $200M contract right now.
notice the answer about Timmy came at 4:20...
Sandals:
4:18 pm Are you looking into signing Tim Lincecum to a long term deal this year? Or if not, could it be done next off season?
Brian_Sabean:
4:20 pm At this time we are going to wait until January and us filing our number for arbitration and then view their filing number to decide if there is a window or opportunity for more than a one year deal. Or decide it’s more prudent this year to go with a one-year contract and if that’s means going to arbitration then we are prepared to do so.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions
THE NUMBERS
THEY’RE THE KEY
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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So basically if Tim and his agent ask for ALOT of money, something like 15 mill..
then Sabes will try a multi year deal to bring his salary down this year to maybe like 10, but will still guarantee that money for multiple years.
But if Tim asks for something more reasonable like 9 (lol) then no need to offer double digit dollars for many years just yet.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
I want to strangle someone
gintssoxfn:
4:22 pm I’m a Giants season ticketholder and look forward to the upcoming season. What are plans to strengthen lineup, especially at LF and 1B? Any interest in players just a level below the top dollar guys – players like Blalock, Nady, etc.
Brian_Sabean:
4:22 pm We are exploring opportunities to upgrade at 1b and in the OF from a run production standpoint.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions
Honestly, did you expect something different?
Jesus, why do people think that GMs are ever going to be candid? Point me to one of these ridiculous chats where ANY team’s GM actually tells people what they’re planning. Why the fuck would anyone do that? If I was a GM, I wouldn’t want my strategy to be made public.
That said, Sabean is still a dumbass
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Hank Blalock’s career road split: .245 / .306 / .424
Xavier Nady’s WAR by season: 1.2, 0.0, 0.8, 0.4, 0.8, 4.0, -0.1 (injury season)
LOL JUST A NOTCH BELOW TOP DOLLAR
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I like what I'm hearing
APeeler:
4:23 pm Your best guess as to what level Thomas Neal will start next season.
Brian_Sabean:
4:24 pm Probably double-A at the beginning of the year. Who knows at the end of the year where he’ll end up. He played very well in the Arizona Fall League against older and more experienced players.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions
That’s OK, I was reading the user name as vulvadp
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
This APeeler guy is killing me.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
then APeeler has to fuck things up
APeeler:
4:24 pm What is the best part of the winter meetings?
Brian_Sabean:
4:25 pm The fellowship.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions
For Frodo!
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I LOL'ed
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
haha
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
real answer
Brian_Sabean:
4:25 pm Getting bent over by other GMs and agents.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
omgomgomgomgomgogmgom
this DEMANDS a fellowship photoshop with sabean involved.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Frodo = Brian Cashman
Sam = Theo Epstein
Gandalf = Colletti
Gollum = Sabean
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If anything Sabean is Pippin. FOOL OF A TOOK!
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Throw yourself in next time, and rid us of your stupidity!
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One does not simply walk into Los Angeles!
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Mordor = Los Angeles
Duh.
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Alternatively
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Also
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
this three photoshop image exchange is why i frikking love this site
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
this is a favorite of mine:
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
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This Is It
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CHANGE OF PACE
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
by scout6 on Dec 9, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
I lol'd
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
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Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Dec 9, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Winner.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Weird
I like it.
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please check “open in new browser” next time. Just lost all my new comments i had not caught. :(
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
If you click your link, it loads in the current window rather than a new one.
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Now that I check the link button I see the checkbox. Never noticed that. Or just ignored it. I always open links in other windows so I assumed others did also. Oh man, I’m such an ass.
I usually open them in a new tab or something manually, i just forgot on yours, but assumed i would have been fine.
I WAS WRONG.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
PWND
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If you click a link with the scroll wheel button (assuming you’re using a mouse with a scroll wheel button) it opens it in a new tab in FF. I love that.
It does that for pretty much all browsers.
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Eh
Some people like having links load in current windows. I call those people “weirdos”.
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It kind of drives me crazy when links are set to automatically open in new windows. If I want it to do that, I’ll tell it to myself, dammit.
/old crank
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Just curious
Why?
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Well, for one thing, I don’t like having a bunch of windows open. I’m really anal about organization that way. Besides that, if a link is sent to open in the current window, I can easily get around that by right clicking. If it’s set to open in another window, as far as I can tell there’s no way to get it to open in the current window (or the current tab, really) other than copying and pasting.
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You can drag links to the address bar.
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Tabbed browsing is your friend.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I use tabbed browsing
One of the tabs I always have open could be described as my Miscellaneous Bullshit Tab. Thus, when I’m on whatever page in that tab, I’d rather a link just open within that tab.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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I always have so many pages of information and/or pictures open at once that I’m used to having a bunch of new tabs opening up.
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Otherwise known as porn.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
“Research”
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YES
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I always ctrl+click and Open in new tab anyway
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
You can skip a step by just using command-click. Automatically opens it in a background tab. Well, on the browsers I use, anyway. Can’t speak for every Mac browser.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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whooooooooooooa
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
On PC
Firefox: Ctrl+click
Opera: Shift+click
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I do that too
Sometimes I have a trackpad or a mouse without a middle scroll wheel.
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IE?!?!?
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The fuck is wrong with you? Internet Explorer?
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IE8 is actually kind of nice
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Better than FF2, almost as good as FF3 imo.
But then again, I use Chrome, so what do I know.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
On stuff like MCC threads, where I obviously don't want a link to load over the thread
Command-click is the way I go. When doing miscellaneous web browsing, though, I just want stuff to open in the current window/tab for the most part.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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oh yeah
I thought that’s what she was saying.
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+1
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leagueaveragecats.com
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
+1
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Where’s the ring, Sabes?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
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STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
omg
how many times has that picture been posted?!?! I JUST NOW GOT IT.
I am a moron.
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Question
Anyone know how the AA stadium at Richmond plays? Is it:
a) pitcher friendly
b) hitter friendly
c) neutral
good question, appropriate answer, I suppose.
bond1942:
4:30 pm Will Garko be tendered a contact this week?
Brian_Sabean:
4:30 pm We have until Saturday at 9pm to make that decision and as of now we have not made that decision yet.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions
That answers that question.
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I like surprises!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
I like Hatter.
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I like lamp
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Post fail all.
The correct response was:
What is, “I like the Wizard of Oz”
I like Santa would also have been acceptable.
"…this thing which tells time."
We have until Saturday at 9PM to decide whether or not we should make that decision, and as of now we have decided not to be decisive and make that decision, yet, though we havn’t decide on how decisive we want to get in making that decision.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
would you just make a decision already?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
It’s really starting to feel like he won’t be getting a contract, which leads me to believe Johnson is the most likely free agent he’ll sign.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Johnson is better.
and I might prefer Ishi as a backup. It’s odd, all things considered NJ is a moderate upgrade, but I am still okay with the non tender at this point. Ideally we would never had made the deal for Garko but apparently Sabean thought he was going to make the difference and get this team to the plolayoffs.
"…this thing which tells time."
We feel that these meetings are productive at putting our roster together. We don’t feel pressure of having to do something while we’re here. We are prepared to act in a timely fashion when the right opportunities present themselves.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
that’s his 2nd quote after the Garko question
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Damn he never answer the one non tongue in cheek question I submitted =/
what is the reason for Bocock being on the 40 man roster while Mike McBryde is unprotected for the Rule 5 draft?
le sigh
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
are you human or are you dancer?
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there will be a shotgun start and then anything can happen. At the end of the day I will be happy to be in a position where we can compete as both a human and a dancer
My hands are cold.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Shocking developments
He didn’t answer my question about Vladimir Guerrero and the lunatic fringe.
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My questions were not answered
apparently, Sabes had to get those softballs in.
I asked,
1. Velez doesn’t have a history of being able to get on base consistently, do you still believe he’s a legitimate leadoff man?
2. Has ownership and management discussed raising payroll above $100 million to go after a star player like Matt Holliday?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions
Little Nicky Johnson
What are the terms MCC is willing to splurge on Nicky?
a) 1yr/$5M
b) 2yrs/$8m
c) 2yrs/$10M
d) Other – specify
Too big of a risk at C
if he’s injured, we’re out 10M
Hopefully if he get injured they will let him heal rather than bat .250 from the top third of the order for an entire season.
"…this thing which tells time."
I’m a NJ fanboy so I’d go C, maybe even slightly more like 2yr/12mil.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 9, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
I thought you meant “New Jersey” fanboy for a second.
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Me too.
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Just a fan of the new Jersey Shore show on MTV. It’s great, great television.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 9, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
In fact
I would add a vesting option for a 3rd year
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions
crap. apparently, that requires registration.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Pro tip from Boras (per Baggs)
On whether the Giants are interested: "That’s my assumption. When you look at the game and you can get a top-seven player at a position … Obviously, the Giants have this window of opportunity in the next four or five years with one of the dominant pitching staffs in the game, if not the most dominant. and they were 29th, I think, in runs scored. (Actually 26th.) If you add a player who can add to the pitching staff as an incredible defensive contributor (while) adding a middle-of-the-order bat capable of 90 RBIs, I’d say he’d be pretty welcome in the Giants’ situation."
Asked about Holliday and the Giants, Boras said he respects their ability to develop pitchers, but it’s time that they capitalize on this monster staff they’ve created. (Boras has long asserted that the Giants should have a $120 million payroll with the revenues they generate.)
"The question in this instance is really what their ownership wants to do to improve a club that has a chance to win in a unique way with their pitching," he said, comparing the Giants to the 2003 World Series champion Florida Marlins. "But somewhere along the line, you have to do something. You’re not going to win with an offense that ranks 29th (in runs scored)."
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Picture boras saying all this with a forked tongue and holding an apple
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
/Neukom shoves wallet more firmly into pocket
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I hate boras as much as the next guy
but our payroll really should be higher.
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Actually I agree.
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When will the ballpark finally be paid off?
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
The debt should be retired by 2010 although the Giants have been aggressive about paying it off sooner.
SBC Park cost $315 million. After selling the naming rights for $50 million and raising about $90 million through personal seat licenses and corporate sponsorships, the Giants borrowed $175 million for construction. The team pays about $17 million annually to service that debt, and will for another 15 years. (Dated 2004)
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
2020, not 2010.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
They could funnel their cable deal bucks to the stadium to get rid of it sooner.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
To minimize their interest payments?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
After selling the naming rights for $50 million
LOL PAC BELL/SBC/AT&T
But thanks.
"…this thing which tells time."
VERIZON BALLPARK
amirite
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Metro PCS Park!
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by j14 on Dec 9, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Tin Cans at each end of a String Park
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
APPLE iPARK
you know it’s coming
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has a ring
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horrible cell phone service park
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Imagine...
Rowand CF
Nick Johnson 1B
Matt Holliday LF
Pablo Sandoval 3B
Freddy Sanchez 2B
Nate Schierholtz RF
Buster Posey C
Edger Renteria SS
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
That will never happen in San Francisco
That looks like a major league lineup!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I’d put Bowker in RF and make Nate the 4th OF, Torres 5th OF and DFA Velez.
Ah, it’s fun to have crazy dreams…
i would kill for that lineup.
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Sounds like someone desperate to generate interest in his overpriced client
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Who is the first paragraph in reference to?
Holiday? How is Holiday a defensive improvement for the Giants? Does he catch? Does he call a good game?
"…this thing which tells time."
Is it just me or does this sound like Boras is a little worried that Holliday’s market is not what he thought it would be.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
of course it is.
I have never heard the “other teams are interested but want to keep it quiet” line. I guess the GM’s figured out the “Mystery Team” bit.
"…this thing which tells time."
top 7?
Well, I guess an Agent’s job is to cherry pick stats…
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
And just “Top 7 at a position?” Is he saying Holliday is only the 7th best LF in baseball?
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intteruptus!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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He said “Top 7 at a position”, which I assume means either LF or OF.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
probably OF
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I agree with Boras.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck it
Boras is right. All of those points are valid. We SHOULD have 120 million dollar payroll, and we ARE squandering this pitching staff.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
by GiantPain on Dec 9, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
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I am in union with the thesis of this comment.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
astros dealing for lindstrom
uggla imminent to the giants if the o’s already spent their dough on millwood?
Can't give away the good ones though.
Need to keep stock for trade with sponsors.
"…this thing which tells time."
That’s the missing piece to the Astros’ puzzle. When you have the worst farm system in the game, why not trade some of it for middle relief?
They obviously aren’t counting on bringing back Valverde and Hawkins is gone, so Lindstrom must be the fall back position. Good luck with that…
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 9, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
I would guess they could sign one or the other.
Hey, that reminds me, why no talk about Branyan?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
(This is not me saying SIGN BRANYAN, btw)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
LIAR
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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SIGN BRANYAN
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
You’re not sayin’.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Somebody didn’t close a “strike” tag …
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No strike tag?
It was probably Merkin Valdez!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
GAME OVER
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 9, 2009 2:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sabean will be on Chronicle Live tonight. How much hoovering will be done by Papa?
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Greg is getting his kneepads on as we speak.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
I’m guessing he’ll be on remotely? Not flying back I hope.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
You’ve thought long and hard about this… well done!
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 9, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Obligatory
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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It’s worse the way it is.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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make it stop
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Wow
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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click on title to hide (you may want to)
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Hey bros! We found this totally awesome kegger down the street!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Jersey Shore?
If hatin’ is your occupation, I’d probably got a full time job for youse. [I don’t recognize the dude in the middle, help?]
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
A valiant Marine at this heartwarming charity function for our men in uniform. sigh.
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Ah, okay.
He looks like he can throw heat so I thought he was one of SF’s middle relievers.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Ray Ratto
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He looks good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
‘Camp Asshat’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
semi-OT
I found these googling, and went on to get some nice pics from a fanfest awhile ago from “King of Cali”. Doesn’t he post here?
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That’s what Aaron Rowand said!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 9, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Huh?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Somewhere up there was unclosed “strike” HTML markup. I think. Seems OK now.
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Huh. I never saw anything of the sort.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
OmniWeb. It’s WebKit-derived, like Safari and Chrome.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Meh, I’m on Safari, I had strikeouts too.
…
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I (and I guess Cody, and Aaron Rowand) had this
The sidebar text and the form buttons for the text areas were all stricken out too. For a moment I thought the War Department had orderd McC redacted.
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Do the meetings go on until Friday?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That day will come … but not this day!
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FOR ALL YOU HOLD DEAR
on this good earth
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I SEE IN YOUR EYES
THE SAME FEAR THAT WOULD BE THE DEATH OF ME
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Mostly through Thursday. Most teams pack up and go home Thursday but the Giants are staying behind for a banquet dinner Thursday night. The SJ Giants are picking up an award for best minor league org, or something like that.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I love how agents like Borasshole use the Giants as some kind of pawn or tool to help his players sign big with other clubs.
I also love how the media helps him out with that.
What I love even more is the pussy ass Giants front office allowing all of that nonsense.
Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
I’m not sure what the front office has done to encourage that. Sabean specifically said he’s not interested in a secario where they help to set the market for a player who doesn’t want to play here.
by KCE on Dec 9, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
the road goes on forever
but the party never ends
cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"
OT: I love ELO's "Sweet Talkin' Woman"
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 9, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions
Your condition can be treated with medication.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
SURPRISE TEAM!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
What the heck is going on with the Strike tool today?
I see lines everywhere!
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 9, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions
Yes. Seems OK now though.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 9, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. Seems OK now though.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 9, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
FF on a PC
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
by j14 on Dec 9, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
THAT IS WHAT DOC GOODEN SAID!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
to war!
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions
Thanks rotoworld!
Rich Harden-S-Cubs Dec. 9 – 5:19 pm et
According to NBCSports.com, Rich Harden has agreed to a one-year contract with right-hander Rich Harden.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
for 800 trillion dollars.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
barely
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
you don’t want to know where!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
kind of this
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flagged
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Royals Offer Two Years To Jason Kendall
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions
this is just getting silly.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
by j14 on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
4:22pm: The Astros have acquired Lindstrom, reports ESPN’s Peter Gammons. He’s flying to Houston for a physical.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions
LOLSTROS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Isn’t he a defenseman for the Red Wings?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
HOCKEY TALK
joe thornton is dreemy!
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He likes bean burritos!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
He enjoys the Turn your head and cough part.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
MLB Network wants to make sure they’re not getting damaged goods.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
He sucks more than Greg Papa at the winter meetings
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
It's a diet
that Bengie doesn’t know about.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Upside: Sabean hasn’t made any stupid moves yet!
Downside: but the lineup we currently have is horrific.
Upshot: He’s probably channeling all his energies into one REALLY terrible move. Patience!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
SILENCE GLAIVE APPLY!
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Brad Penny – signed by Cards
Ben Sheets – asking for $12m/yr
Rich Harden – going to Rangers
Justin Duchscherer
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
more strikeout! yeargh!
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He is healthy
He just has a sad.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Cheer up, Emo kid.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I wish Velez was emo
so he can cut himself…from the team.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
4:34pm: But wait! ESPN Radio’s Shannon Drayer says the Mariners are close on Harden.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions
AL West Steel Cage Death Match
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Harden is Favrering
He needs some syrup with them waffles.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
THIS IS NUTS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
THIS IS CAKETOWN
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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SHE SAYS THIS ONCE A MONTH!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
THIS ONE SAYS IT ONCE AN HOUR
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/12/7/1190107/winter-meetings-day-i-is-it-over#26782929
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Yankees aren’t satisfied with OF even after Granderson acquisition, source said. Still a strong player for Holliday, with Damon as fallback.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions
Matt Damon?
How you like them [big] apples?
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
I thought that
was Grady Sizemore
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Good Lord
I hate the Yankees.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Not part of Fellowship
Brian Sabean: “No need” to engage Scott Boras in Indy.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 2:40 PM PST reply actions
Damn Prop 8 sweeping the nation
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by shanghaijim on Dec 9, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sabes only wines and dines them then followed by penetration. He’ll be the penetratee.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
manatee?
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Manatee?
As in
After receiving a technical foul, Stephen Jackson exclaims, “Man, a T?”
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
no lube
Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
by kbsofaraway08 on Dec 9, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
But they were my favorite slash pairing :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
By the way, Grant, I just found out what a Maven is from reading Malcom Gladwell today. Now I feel smarter having read your post.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
Just finished that one last week.
Probably the most dense of his three books. I’m going to read it again.
"…this thing which tells time."
i also have Blink at home
is it better?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Probably a better read, maybe less applicable
depending on what you are looking for from the book.
"…this thing which tells time."
yeah
i’ll make sure to read it
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Huh
Now I AM seeing a lot of strike-through in this thread. Weird.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’m not touching it.
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EVERYTHING IS BIGGER IN TEXAS!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Baggs with an update.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Uh oh
Just emerged from Brian Sabean’s suite. The Giants GM expects activity to "pick up this evening based on our earlier conversations. We may be getting closer to getting something done."
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Let's guess what it is!
I’ll guess either Johnson or Uggla.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
PEDRO MARTINEZ
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It is the Nick Johnson deal
I have no doubt.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
I can haz new Johnson!
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Mine isn't new
But you can have it!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Why so sure, Lars? What if it’s LaRoche or DeRosa?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I believed Sabean would go 2-years on NJ all along. It just makes sense.
My guess: 2/10 with a vesting 3rd year based on plate appearances.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Sure and then
At that price it looks good until NJ runs into Ishi coming out of the dugout. Who do you think ends up on first? Not even as funny as Abbott & Costello.
Don't believe everything you think.
The GM said there is a scenario or two in which the Giants could sign a center fielder (Mike Cameron?) and shift Aaron Rowand to a corner spot.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
CAMERON!!!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I miss brunette Cameron.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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We're bringing it back
YUP
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
/unbuttons top button on shirt
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Natto wants to cold nipple look.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Good
I have some diamonds I need cut.
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
Official McPokeMaster
Registered Velezbian and supporter of Fredemption
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Thunder Thighs are Thunderous!
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 9, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
This is an enjoyable turn.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yes on Cameron
no on Rowand in RF or LF
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand for inner outfield. I’m sold.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Why not?
If Rowand is a decent defender in CF, he’s a good defender in LF/RF, and yeah I’d rather get an offensive threat for the corner spot, but it’s not like there are many of those out there past Bay/Holliday, who are both going to be too expensive. This way you upgrade your defense and your offense, instead of just your offense.
This
Sometimes we can get so caught up in positional value that yuo do stuff that doesn’t make sense. Sure rowand is going to have a crappy WAR in RF or LF, but he’d be a very very good left fielder defensively and a good RF defensively. He’s still going to be in the lineup, so why not make the team better defensively,even if it lowers his relative value. It’s not like he’s getting traded.
"…this thing which tells time."
WAR takes defense into account so it’s likely that Rowand would likely have pretty much the same WAR in RF as in CF. His relative offensive would be lower and his relative defense would be higher and they generally balance out in cases like that.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
Thanks for the clarification.
I understand what WAR says (for the most part) but not how it says it—so thanks.
But I think my point still stands. Who cares if his bat is relatively weak in RF, he’s still going to be in the lineup no matter what. Don’t keep him in CF and a superior defender in the corner just because of relative offense.
"…this thing which tells time."
Is he hitting on Baggs?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Baggs better not turn him down – that was disastrous for Kevin Frandsen.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Frandsen grew up a Giants fan.
He should have prepared himself to be screwed by Sabean.
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Zing!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
I’m thinking – no, praying! – that’s it’s Johnson. If he’s not engaging Boras, then it’s probably not Beltre.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
It is definitely
JohnsonThis is essentially a done deal.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
–Sabean said he’d offer two years to a first baseman without worry of lidding any talent in the organization. Asked if a three-year deal would be considered lengthy, he said, "Possibly, but it doesn’t preclude us from doing something." (I’ve heard the Giants would go to two years on 1B Nick Johnson, but not three. Perhaps INF Mark DeRosa could merit a three-year deal, though, since he wouldn’t be locked into any one position.)
Ok on the Johnson, Barf on the latter.
Yeah, yeah, TWSS.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
THREE YEARS FOR DEROSA?
ABORT ABORT ABORT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
–Nate Schierholtz won praise from Sabean for going to Puerto Rico and working hard to make adjustments with hitting coach Hensley Meulens. "I give Nate a lot of credit," Sabean said. "He’s certainly got a captive audience and he wants to be out there."
But there are no guarantees right field will be his.
"That depends on what happens from the outside," Sabean said. "All these guys — (John) Bowker, (Travis) Ishikawa, Nate — all of them — will be given a chance to distinguish themselves in the spring. But we don’t know enough about these players, in my mind, to draw the conclusion they’ll be everyday producers moreso than what we could get from the outside. That’s the process we’re going through now."
LOL GOOD SOLDIER
LOL FRANDSEN
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
To be fair
Nate is doing a lot of hard work and doing really well in Venez.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
We could have actually known something about these players already. But let’s rely on spring training again instead.
OMG OMG OMG
It’s most likely Johnson but I’m gonna go ahead and guess Delgado out of the blue!
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Padres now “aggressively” trying to move Kevin Kouzmanoff, says one source who spoke w them. Hear Twins & Giants have been most interested
SO the Padreeds go from asking for Bumgarner to trying to unload him for anything they can get?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Dodgers looking at Juan Uribe, according to the LA Times.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2009 3:11 PM PST reply actions
Then it becomes
JIZZ HANDS
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 9, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
This
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Not to worry
It is Johnson.
We are going to get a lot of mileage out of that Porkins picture.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
That YES! was mainly for the Porkins picture.
I guess I can use it on the signing Johnson part but I’ll wait until someone more official than Lars says it. Like SF Pete or anyone from Wisconsin.
Natto's nipples are never wrong
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
You say this based on…?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Based on Natto’s cold nipples. They have a divining quality.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
This is true.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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They’re like temperature sensitive divining rods.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
omg dis is so exciting
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m excited until I find out and worried.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 9, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
I like Johnson too
But it’s a little sad that we had Bonds, Kent, and Burks less than a decade ago and now we’re thrilled about Nick Johnson.
Oh well.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Imagine that team with our current team's pitching staff
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STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 9, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
I was watching something on MLB Network on the 1993 season. Clark, Williams and Bonds. Man what a middle of the order that was.
"meh"
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