Giants Pursuing Kouzmanoff?
by Grant on Dec 8, 2009 12:10 PM PST
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According to Bob Nightengale, via MLB Trade Rumors...
The SF Giants are talking to the Padres about 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff, but SD wants more than OF Fred Lewis and IF Kevin Frandsen
Makes perfect sense. Why play Ryan Garko at first when you can trade for a lesser player to take his lineup spot? It's like that time someone I brought a turkey sandwich to work and someone said, "Hey, I'll sell you this turkey sandwich that I dropped on the floor! Only $5.00!", and I immediately agreed because it made too much sense to pass up.
Rumors like this make me sad, and they cause computers to crash.
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Sabes, I’ll trade you this delicious doorstop for your crummy old danish!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Doorknob? Nikolai?
too soon?
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no, I’m serious!! It’s great that we all go nuts when there’s tweets from a beat writer from the Allegheny Midnight Shopper linking the Giants to the Pittsburgh Pirates in a Madison Bumgarner for a game thrown Lloyd Mclendon fist base. It’s great fun.
Gammons to leave ESPN
Maybe he slept with a 19 yo intern?
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Now he can write about the Red Sox 100% of the time
and not just 99%
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
New ESPN Lead Analyst = John Kruk
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
I hate you.
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it’s not my decision!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I hate you for making me realize that children everywhere will now grow up thinking that John Kruk is a leading authority on baseball.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
it would have dawned on you at some point
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
see my sig?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Ooh, that’s a good sig.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Roy Keane is, unforunately, a terrible coach
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
Eh… He was a fantastic player though. His autobiography was also surprisingly readable and even interesting
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
he’s no Tiger
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
On a tangential note, I guess Henry Schulman is MIA at these Winter Meetings. Did I miss something?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I was talking to a family friend who writes sporting news for the Chronicle. He said that this was the first year that the chron hasn’t sent someone to the WS b/c it seemed wrong after firing/laying off half the staff. Maybe its the same thing.
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Yep. Seems strange to me since that’s usually Schulman’s gig.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Shea is the national baseball writer, so perhaps rather than sending Schulman, Slusser, and Shea it was decided just to send Shea
MONEY MONEY MONEY.
They also take turns for these things, WS, Winter Meetings, ASG any pseudo vacation thing
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Bengie, 2009: .265 / .285 / .442
Kouzmanoff, 2009: .255 / .302 / .420
New cleanup hitter!!!!
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It honestly makes me wonder what Sabean’s standards are
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think he understands the concept: "standards"
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Stuff Sabean likes in a player
1) Veteran grit
2) Gamerness
3) Defense
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
It’s like the Yankees wake up in the morning and say, “I think today I’ll try to get Curtis Granderson while giving up close to nothing”, whereas Sabean thinks Kevin Kouzmanoff is really going to help one of the worst offenses in baseball
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
pretty sure Austin Jackson and Ian Kennedy is not “Nothing”, and they took money back without giving up any, not a big deal for them, but a big deal for most clubs.
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“close to nothing”
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Austin Jackson is the equivalent of Thomas Neal in our system, isn’t he?
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How so?
I don’t really see a comparison: Jackson is more advanced, but doesn’t have power and didn’t have a breakout season this year (his 2009 line was very close to his career line).
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
am I missing something, re: Austin Jackson? A year ago, he was the Yankees’ No. 1 prospect. He’s fast, he’s a good outfielder, and he’s done well in the high minors while being among the younger players in his leagues. The consensus seems to be that Jackson won’t become a superstar, and maybe he won’t. But I think that the combination of Scherzer and Jackson might wind up making this deal look pretty great for the Tigers, too.
— Ron Neyer
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plus, the Tigers get all sorts of cost control.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think it was a bad deal for Detroit… Just a great one for the Yankees. Granderson is a star, and it’s not like NY was banking on Austin Jackson to succeed for them
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-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
I really like Granderson but star? Does a star suck badly against LHP? Eric Chavez had awful LHP splits too and he brought gold glove D at 3b. He wasn’t a star player though. Just a really really good one. I think Granderson is similar. Star player = Pujols, A-Rod etc…IMO.
Yeah
he’s not a star, though his charisma is off the charts. He’s a 3-4 win player in CF, which is very valuable.
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charisma sounds suspiciously like gamertude…
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 8, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
FIND THE CHARISMA !!!
CHARISMA SPIRIT!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Well, he was an all-star
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-Roy Keane
Granderson is absolutely pathetic against LHP,
so your take on the situation is spot-on.
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by Player To Be Named Later on Dec 8, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t realize he him that poorly against LHP
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants are close to acquiring Albert Pujols for a package of Nick Noonan and Fred Lewis. This will look like a pretty good deal for the Giants.
-Keith Rosenthal
Innocent until proven guilty...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 8, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
NOT NOONAN
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In a stunning new development, Brian Sabean has agreed in principle to trade Madison Bumgarner and Thomas Neal for the best athlete in the Yankees’ system. Sources say Sabean was seen dancing in the halls upon sealing the deal, until informed that the player he was acquiring was, in fact, Cody Ransom.
- Amelia Baggarly
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
He strikes out a ton, has almost no power and had a really high BABIP last year. He’s not particularly toolsy.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
If he was in our system, he wouldn’t get nearly the same attention. Yankee prospect hype strikes again.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
What! Phil Hughes, Jooooba and Ian Kennedy aren’t the three horsemen of the RedSox Nation Apocalypse
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, not bad at all for the Tigers
really fucking awful for AZ, though.
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I’m not saying he is the same player as Neal, I’m saying he’s got similar value.
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Maybin has had better numbers than Jackson at pretty much every level. And he’s also the same age as Jackson.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
He had a .727 OPS in the majors and an .862 OPS in AAA. Austin Jackson had .759 in AAA.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
But Maybin never committed to play point guard for Georgia Tech!!!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Well, Kouz has been doing that for three years already!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 8, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Oops, Reply fail! As i said in the other post, i don’t really want to replace Travis Ishikawa for a hitter who actually hit worse than him last year. If you correct for park effects then Kouzmanoff is the better hitter but he’s still a poor hitter and quite a bit worse than Garko. He’s still a valuable player in that he can play ok defence at 3B but once you consider the effect of moving Sandoval to 1B he becomes a lot less valuable and not much of an upgrade over Garko. When you consider his salary i’d rather have Fred Lewis (who’s a similar value player for less money) and Kevin Frandsen.
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a plague on your house
Les Plack = more chicks
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 8, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions
Ewww.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 8, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sure he’s looking at Kouzmanoff’s “potential” right? I mean, wasn’t he supposed to be the next great hitter for the Pads?
He would hit more HRs in SF
Book it.
That said, I don’t like this potential deal at all. Garko is better than Kouz.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Just like Sean Burroughs?
Who’s actually only a year older than Kouzmanoff.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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really?
Wow, it seems like Burroughs is about 95
it seems like Burroughs is about 95
He’s six months younger than me. :(
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Bengie Molina just struck out
trying to hit this.
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Bengie Molina just
struck out fell down trying to hit out run this.
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 8, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ba-dop bop bop ba…
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by Smoke on the Water on Dec 8, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think I’ll go to Chipotle for lunch today
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-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Haven't had Chipotle in a while
as Baja Fresh keep coming with $1.99 Facebook deals.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 8, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
They have couscous at Chipotle?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
No, but that looks like my vomit whenever I eat there
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think I just made a friend
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t forget the Chipolt-away.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Thinking of Kouz makes you wanna barf?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
looks yum
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Kouz is the cousin of my first girlfriend…
Sure, let’s do it!
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Giants Linked to Rose Nylund
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Back in St. Olaf, Brian Sabean was one of the smartest people in town!
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I’m ashamed I knew who that was right away.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Dec 8, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Giants linked to Kevin Nealon
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Giants in talks with Neal Heaton
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Dec 8, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
I still don't understand
Why we are throwing Garko under the bus and eagerly pursuing another first basemen? Obviously Garko had terrible number for SF last year, but if he hits like he has the past few years with Cleveland I think he will be a decent cog in the lineup. Don’t we have more pressing needs than to replace an average 1B with another average 1B?
Two things
1) Sabean and Bochy both love to freak out over SSS.
2) Ryan Garko isn’t that good anyway, so whatever.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
better
than Kouz, and we wouldn’t have to trade for him aye?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 8, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
A better hitter, at least.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Haven’t we overblown the criticisms about Garko’s defense? It’s not like he’s running around out there with no arms. Other than the play where he cut off a throw to home that would have gotten Helton at the plate (a game I was at, and Todd fucking Helton most certainly would have been out), I don’t recall him making any mistakes in the field.
career UZR/150
Garko: -4.6 as a 1B
Kouzmanoff: 2.8 as a 3B
Kouzmanoff is definitely a better fielder.
He still sucks, of course.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
on the other hand
it must be great to get a contract extension after trading for someone who you want to dump a couple of months later!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Two for Two
Alderson for a rent-a-cripple. Then gives the old limp knee, bad back, bad shoulder, mess a two year contract so he can hit .688 .OPS
Barnes for a 3 month meet-pine-meat, than will probably non-tender him.
Needs more Jack Daniels
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Giants Persuing Koouzmanoff Adrian Gonzalez
fixed
BTW Boof is available to come home!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
Grant's wait is finally over
http://twitter.com/TwinsNow/status/6472514649
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I just wanted to drop by and swing and miss at slider in the dirt.
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Zaarath and Christopher Prokop — and their two cats — live in the smallest apartment in the city, a 175-square-foot “microstudio” in Morningside Heights the couple bought three months ago for $150,000.
I have an attic. Probably 150 sq ft. Anyone want to buy it for $100,000. Includes free heat!
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Can I store dead bodies there?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Sure.
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK
BEES
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Now that’s an odd fetish.
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LOL PENIS SIZE!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
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BEES?!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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NOT THE BEEEEEES
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Your firearms are useless against them!
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What have I done to this venerable blog?
It’s a Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back reference.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
somebody has to do it
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 8, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions
the Brewers offered Wolf three years and $31MM. He should probably sign that.
does that increase Lincecum’s price tag any?
Crafty lefthander that kills Giants leaving the division. Me Likey.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Dec 8, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
So he can be replaced by a AAA scrub who kills the Giants? Uh, not so much.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
So he can be replaced by a AAA scrubby a batting tee who kills the Giants? Uh, not so much.
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
This really doesn’t provide hard stats, but it’s fun to do…
Comparing the player comps of Garko and Kouzmanoff (source: baseball-reference):
GARKO
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1. Randall Simon (966)
2. Josh Phelps (962)
3. Conor Jackson (957)
4. James Loney (956)
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6. Billy Butler (950)
7. Ron Blomberg (949)
8. Wes Ferrell (948)
9. Les Fleming (947)
10. Phil Weintraub (946)
KOUZMANOFF
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7. Kelly Johnson (936)
8. Jody Gerut (936)
9. Dick Kokos (935)
10. Jeremy Hermida (935
Kokos would go well with Bocock
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Dec 8, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
You can rip pieces of duct tape off your pubes and accomplish more.
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
yay!
From Buster Olney: Sources say Dodgers are essentially in lockdown financially. Their movement on players will be greatly restricted for the forseeable future, perhaps into next season.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:59 PM PST reply actions
They want all pitchers on one years deals.
Then why the fuck offer Wolf ARB!
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
sweet
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Awesome.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 8, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Giants still won’t score more than 650 runs. It just means the Rockies or somebody else will win the division. At best
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
No, I just tried to leave the Warriors after the Antawn Jamison trade and I couldn’t. If I couldn’t leave the Warriors who have essentially never been good then how can I leave the Giants? There’s always hope that things could change.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Since moving to the Bay Area
The sad thing is that the Warriors have won a Championship… the Giants… ugh..
Really?
I can think of worse things that could happen.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I can think of worse things that have happened.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I can think of worse things Megan Fox can do to me
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I think that was documented in Jennifer’s Body
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
honestly, this wouldn’t be the worst trade in the world, not a terribly bright one, but it really wouldn’t have much impact either way.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions
that would make it more frustrating.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Y’all quit raggin’ on my man Brian. I saw him at a burger place this one time a few blocks from the ballpark, so me and him are like best friends now.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
I was at Safeway across the ballpark on my break, last winter. At the checkout line, who else, but Sabes himself buying a bottle of orange juice. I really wanted to congratulate his crew on the draft. Right when I said, “Hey Mr. Sabean….”, he looked right at me and straight took off without his juice. WTF was that all about? I didn’t have my LUNATIC FRINGE shirt on.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I was wearing a Giants hat, and when he walked by me he gave me a really dirty look. Not sure why
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Nah
Its just that he’s always hungover and has the shakes, sees snakes, and loses control of his bladder unexpectedly and suddenly.
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
He could sense you were on the Internet.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The fact that you even knew who he was indicated that you are at least a semi knowledgeable Giants/baseball fan. Sabean was clearly intimidated by this, realizing that you were one of the people who knows he is a complete hack. Sabean knows that he is good at appeasing the casual fans into thinking the likes of Aaron Rowand and Kouzmanoff are the types of players that win championships, but he knew he could not get past your immense baseball knowledge.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Dec 8, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
also
he knew no one who actually recognized him would want to say something positive…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Damn, I guess that makes me a communist then, right?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
How are you able to carry a pitchfork and multiple torches?
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Dec 8, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
/Chip Caray fists Meatloaf in oven
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
so they can move Panda to 1b.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
but it seems the Giants are in the market for either a 1b or a 3b, depending on which one is easier to obtain, knowing that they have the option of moving Panda to 1b.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
NIck Johnson
Carlos Delgado
Ryan Garko
Lyle Overbay
Conor Jackson
Casey Kotchman
are just a few of the available 1b
Thought he played quite well at 3b and now that he is 109lbs lighter this season
If by a -6.4 UZR/150, which was near the bottom for all third basement, then yes —quite well.
I know it’s a losing argument to claim “I don’t care about stats, I know what my eyes see” especially on this site. I just find it hard to believe Panda was one of the worst third baseman in the league last year. He seemed average at worst and quite often made some great plays.
Plus, why put him through the trouble of Panda Camp and make him lose weight and then just move him to a position that’s less demanding? Isn’t it possible he’d lose the motivation to keep his weight down, then?
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
If so, then my eyes saw something completely different than yours. When I saw him he had quick reflexes, strong arm, no range. Average plays in the hole between short and third, he couldn’t get to—which would be fine if we had a SS who could get to them.
At least he is young and has the potential to improve through more reps and being in better shape. But whether he plays third or first, he still needs to get in better shape. Remember, he’s trying to lose fat, not weight. If he replaces that fat with bulk he’s gonna see results, which is plenty of motivation.
I am somewhat of a stathead, and I think UZR is a very useful stat, but you need to aknowledge its limitations. I think we are all aware Pablo’s range is limited, we don’t need statistics to tell us that. But also consider that he was new to the position and very overweight. As he learns the position better (positioning himself and improving footwork) and continues to lose weight, his range is going to improve. And as you mentioned, he has the natural tools that 3rd basemen need: Quick reflexes and a cannon right arm (and left arm as well.) He made some amazing plays last year. Those plays against the Rockies on the one hoppers to his right where he got the ball while sliding to his right, 360 pivoted, and threw to first were incredible, and the play against the mariners where Ichiro hit a chopper over his head and he threw the runner out at home was as good as it gets. UZR cannot measure the merit of those plays. I think Pablo is an amazing athlete, he has just stunted his athletic ability due to weight issues, and moving him to first would be a waste of his athleticism
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Dec 8, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
They’re actually going to move Kouzmanoff to catcher.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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They’re dumb.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Dec 8, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I just can’t get worked up over this stuff until the season actually starts. Who was it last year that they signed, had him on the roster for less than a week, and then traded him? They can do whatever they want right now, I’m not going to scream too loudly about it ’till round about opening day.
Then you Ma’am are not a true fan!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
you're just sour
because you lost count!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
The Marlins might be trading Dan Uggla before the end of the winter meetings, a source familiar with talks involving the infielder said.
The source said four teams are in on Uggla, adding the Giants would need to step up if they’re seriously interested in adding him to the heart of their lineup. The teams have had ongoing talks, but it’s believed nothing has been hot and heavy in Indy.
With Pablo Sandoval penciled in as the cleanup hitter, the Giants need complementary players to bat third and fifth. Uggla would be a nice fit, but the Giants are hesitant to trade any young pitching.
With starter Brad Penny leaving the Giants to sign with St. Louis, the Giants are less willing to part with Jonathan Sanchez. Uggla has two years remaining on his contract, after which he could be a free agent. If the Marlins wait until the July 31 trade deadline to move Uggla, it’s unlikely his value will be as high as now.
With Uggla, the Giants would have defensive options. Sandoval would be moved to first. Uggla is a second baseman, but the Giants might see him a better fit at third, with Freddy Sanchez sticking at second.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions
Don’t step up.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Hallelujah, Jaffar.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Let’s find a way to shuffle the infielders around so somebody other than Rent is playing SS. Panda could probably play SS just as well as Renteria
TA-DA!!!
1B Ishikawa
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
SS Posey
C Garko
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
wikipedia
“During that game, the Giants’ starting catcher Bengie Molina left on a double switch. Their backup catcher, Eliézer Alfonzo, was injured on a play at the plate and had to leave the game in the 10th inning. With the Giants out of position players, Feliz moved to catcher, Randy Winn moved from center field to third, Dan Ortmeier moved from right field to center, and pitcher Noah Lowry came into the game in right.”
Lineup next year:
Noah Lowry RF
Freddy Sanchez 2b
Randy Winn 3b
Pablo Sandoval 1b
Edgar Renteria SS
Aaron Rowand CF
Nate Schierholtz RF
Pedro Feliz C
Git R Dun.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Yeah, we need to get more screen caps from that game. Lowry in RF was pretty funny.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Love that picture of Barry with Ortmeier and Lowry showing them where to go.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Was that posted here?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Aha, found it
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
lololol win
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 8, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Bonds: “Right field is on that side, dude.”
Lowry: “But I was standing there, and thinking, wait…I’m on the left now…shouldn’t this be left field?”
Bonds: “Dude, just take my word for it an get your ass over there.”
Ortmeier: snicker
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Ortmeier: Why won’t anyone talk to me?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Winner!
“Hey Noah, this is the outfield. Why you wearing a fucking cup?”
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I liek that if we’re going to do this, we’ll just go all-out crazy and play 2 RFers
The New Improved Avalanche. Now with Real Coaches!
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Dec 8, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'm glad you caught that
Randy Winn will cover LF from 3b.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
hey
we should sign Lowry to play LF!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 8, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
Sanchez for Uggla would be worse than Alderson for Freddie or Barmes for Garko
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Same with Bumgarner for Uggla.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
that's like
the equivalent of trading sanchez for uggla and a bag of balls
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
is Anibal bad?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
sanchez & lewis/frandsen for uggla & cantu?
can we get a three team deal in the works with lindstrom moving somewhere?
Giving up Sanchez is just not a good idea.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
What about this exchange makes you think I mean Freddy?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
The whole exchange started with an article that talked about trading Jonathan for Uggla. It has not changed course since then.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
this is where OOTP really messes me up
Anibal was a real hot prospect. So, hearing the name I immediately think that.
I mean, Jeff Fiorentino, who turned into about nothing in real life, was Barry F Bonds, although he retired at 37 due to some aggressive aging algorithms. 277/424/561, with 702 HR in his 18 yrs in the majors
BTW, anyone want to join?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
D-Backs. I hear they want real rturn when they trade Upton and young.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Elaine Benes agrees
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 8, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
THANK YOU
I can only think of her saxophone playing boyfriend when people say/write “hot and heavy.”
Dude, you just gotta finish it with a twirl.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
from Baggs
I’ve just confirmed a tweet from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale that the Giants and Padres had discussions about a trade for San Diego third baseman Kevin Kouzmanoff in which infielder Kevin Frandsen would head south.
But the Padres have little interest in Fred Lewis, who was rumored to be part of discussions. San Diego already has a glut of left-handed hitting outfielders. They’re searching for pitching instead.
Could Frandsen and someone like Kevin Pucetas be enough to make a deal for Kouzmanoff, who’s due a raise in arbitration? Perhaps. But the Giants also are averse to trading any upper-level pitching depth after losing Brad Penny.
Both Frandsen and Lewis would welcome a change of scenery. That much is for sure.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 1:15 PM PST reply actions
Ol’ Stopgap.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
oh how it's fallen
from Major Upgrade. Demotion is a biotch!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Found this on Gaslamp ball
While the market for 3b is saturated right now, I still think we can do better than Lewis an Frandensen
I’m pretty sure the guy got Kevin’s name from sabes
Are you sure?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Let me help you out. You are wrong.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Trading pitching for a hitter type the Giants already have or can find outside of a trade looks like a bad idea to me.
Pucetas will not help this team. Now or in the future.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Neither will Kouz, though.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Pucetas for Kouzmanoff would be yet another misstep.
It would be a push
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
not a misstep.
Barmes for garko is a misstep.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
How is not improving your team but not hurting your team a misstep? Its a push.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Arguably it does hurt the team
Kouz < Garko. Let alone Nick Johnson.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I guess I wasn’t thinking it in those terms.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s just pass on this one, okay Sabes?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
PRETTY PLEASE?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
MUST CREATE ILLUSION THAT HE’S TRYING TO IMPROVE TEAM
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
They’re searching for pitching instead./blockquote>
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Rumor and more gossip...Guessing game....
NOt into the “What IF” game that everyone is playing right now. I don’t think the Giants HAVE to make a move at the moment. Lets just wait and see what develops at just before and during spring training. Might see some mega deal then..Hopefully for some DECENT BATS! How about someone that can play regularly AND hit for .298 every year and have 35 HR and a 60 RBI’s…Who does that sound like that is currently available in the Major Leagues? Hmmmm…
Mmmm, chicken tenders...
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 8, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Barry Bonds?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That’s the first thing to come to mind
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I have no clue who he’s talking about otherwise. Plus 35 HR and 60 RBI? Weird.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Bengie can eat 60 RIBS in one sitting
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
he cleverly corrected
for the Giants tablesetters
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Adrian Gonzalez
40 HR with only 99 RBI is pretty lulzy
I think you’re misunderstanding what part of that is lulzy.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
To be fair
I have no idea what the league average RBI’s per HR is, but driving in 59 other guys over the course of a season through 40 HRs and 113 other hits seem ridiculously low. His average runners on base per ab was probably around .05
Remember 2003, when Bonds had 45 HR and 90 RBI? That was awesfulsome.
by Every6thDay on Dec 8, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
from padres.com twitter
Fred Lewis is left-handed and is, essentially Tony Gwynn.
wut
do they mean junior?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
In that case. Fred for Adrian!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a strange sentence.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Misplaced comma, ho!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Let us all add to the hype
Fred Lewis is the next Nikolai Bonds
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly
The more I think about it, the more I think that we should just hold on to the offensive upgrades we made at the trade deadline and then sign johnny damon.
Damon LF
Sanchez 2b
Garko 1b
Sandoval 3b
Rowand CF
Juggernate RF
Posey/FA Catcher C
Renteria
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
pre-emptive
I know, DNW damon, etc, etc.
But his OBP is nothing to scoff at, and he is at least a positive-UZR LF.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I guess that’s not worse than the alternative. Dye or Kouz
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Renteria and Rowand would have to come back and up their stats for this to work
I think that this was the type of lineup that WOULD work and what Boch had in mind IF Renteria and Rowand where hitting with men on base and producing the clutch hit and also take the now obviously heavy load of being the ONLY offensive threat in the line up (Sandoval). I like this line up IF those too come back and hit really well throughout the year, not just streaks that neither can synchronize between them.
Rowand is an eternally average hitter
I wouldn’t count on much of a bump from him.
Say what you will about how dumb it was to play Rent injured, but I think he’ll be a better hitter next year if only because he’ll be healthier
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
he might hit like .270/.330/.380 but i wouldn’t expect much more than that
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
He’ll try to play better because it’s contract year
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
damon
the Yanks have more leverage now and still have a hole in LF, but won’t offer more than 2 years to the guy, meaning the Giants would have to pony up more than 2 years or a lot more money.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
274 /.336/ .416 / .752
Not with that line. That is the fourth worst OPS among AL outfielder.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Well that isn’t normalized to New Yankee stadium
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
it’s the Yankees. They want hte biggest most expensive name in every spot in their lineup. They’ve never shown much faith in Cabrera.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Who cares? Bayern blasted Juve in Turin. I is happy! Also, tomorrow is my second snow day in a row. Wooh!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Not only would Kouz cost us a few trades, but he is more expensive than what we have already. This trade would be a completely lateral one. This is simply a trade for trades sake and will do nothing to make us better.
In short, I fully expect the deal to be finalized before afternoon tea.
Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu
i think the difference between rowand and kouzmanoff is in room for improvement. rowand came from a place where his numbers were inflated. kouzmanoff (who is younger) is coming from a place where his numbers have stagnated. there are so many examples of young guys getting a change of venue and showing their real worth (carlos pena, carlos quentin, garret jones, et al)after flaming out or losing their prospect status with their original clubs. if it only cost flew and frandsen, why not do it? we need a 3rd/ 1st baseman…kouz plays decent defense, is cheap, and has a chance to improve…i say do it
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 8, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions
It’s a better idea to stick with Garko, who is cheaper, better and won’t cost (more) prospects in trade.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'm guessing the Padres would prefer not to pay Kouzmanoff the $3-5MM he'll get through arbitration
wasn’t sabean avoiding more arbitration cases?
I've been thinking No No No No all morning
but now I’m kinda thinking : Well, he’s not bad of a buy-low candidate, and if we really give up nothing, then this really isn’t that terrible.
And then I remember that we already have Garko. UGH.
So the choice is : Tender Garko a contract, or Trade crap for Kuzmanoff and pay the same amount roughly. Ugh.
At least Kuzmanoff plays good defense I guess…..
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Kouzmanoff is us.
We are more valuable than Fred Lewis and Keving Frandsen.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Chris Farly interviews Kouzmanoff
Chris: Remember that time when you were batting against Jonathan Sanchez and whiffed on his slider and it hit you in the foot?
Kouz: yeah
Chris: um, that was cool
Fat guy in a little coat...
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
From The Chron
Also, according to USA Today, the Giants are talking with the Padres about third baseman Kevin Kouzmanoff and the Padres want more than Fred Lewis and Kevin Frandsen.
But manager Bruce Bochy said, “That rumor is not even close.” On a team full of low on-base percentages, Kouzmanoff would fit right in. His OBP in 2009 was .302. Career, .308.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?blogid=22&entry_id=53124#ixzz0Z8YQYgP9
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
I can see it now
He and the boys hanging out in the dugout, reminiscing about all the great times they failed to reach first base safely. Hoo boy, that’s what really brings a team together.
"not even close"
the Giants won’t be satisfied unless they can give up a lot more for Kouz.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
On a team full of low on-base percentages, Kouzmanoff would fit right in.
SF Cron with the SICK BURN
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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NO
But if you go to Pinstripe Alley, you can get him for Matt Cain!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Bagg's new post us full of face palmy goodness
Eugenio Velez stands to get the lion’s share of playing time as the leadoff hitter, although he and Andres Torres could be in the lineup on the same day. Bochy hopes Velez can increase his unimpressive OBP and patience as he gains experience.
Fred Lewis is not a candidate to lead off, even though he’s one of few high-OBP guys on the roster. Lewis will fight for a job in the spring.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions
Hoping a hitter will suddenly transform into another type of hitter worked great last year, when they were hoping Fred Lewis would become an aggressive power hitter.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Fred Lewis vs. A Real Lion
Watch as Fred Lewis fights not only for his job, but for his life! Coming this spring to Arizona.
Maybe…
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
/waits to see how people will react
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That is magnificent
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
HOLY CRAP.
uhhh. Don’t know what to say. It’s freaking Cambodia. 24 dead?
"…this thing which tells time."
(Did you read the caption at the top?)
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(shhh)
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or did you notice the url isn’t a BBC site?
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Stop ruining it!
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Have you guys read the story about how this story came to be?
Apparently a group of guys were arguing about whether 40 midgets could beat up a lion. One guy was absolutely convinced that the midgets would win. So the other guys, for a goof, made this story using another BBC story as a template, put it on the internet and showed it to their friend. Evidently the guy believed it and was pretty crestfallen, muttering something like, “Man, I really thought they could beat it.”
I thought they were saying some good things but then I saw this and cried.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Sabean was saying some good things. These quotes are from Bochy.
P.S. I get them confused sometimes, too.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
It easy to confuse them.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
You write post image in front of a URL.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/10/13/634328/mcfaq-ii-faq-harder
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huh
That faq seems wrong about images.
I’ve always just used the SBNation code of putting !’s in front and behind the URL. Much simpler.
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That faq seems wrong about images.
Err, how is it wrong? Unless somebody changed basic HTML and didn’t tell me…
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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oh no
you CAN do it that way, but I don’t know why you wouldn’t list the easiest way in the FAQ
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Ah
Well, if you know HTML, the way listed is probably the easiest way, since that’s how you’ve always done it.
Of course, then you don’t need the FAQ, I guess.
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Because I didn’t know about that when I created it.
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You are forgiven.
But I think that even if you do know HTML, it’s a hell of a lot easier to type 2 !’s than write out the img src code.
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OK, I get the idea.
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You know what's even easier?
Click the picture icon in the comment box and paste your URL in the field.
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Ding ding ding!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think that’s easier, actually.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
The HTML method is easiest for me, so whatev.
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I always miss a quote in there somewhere.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Also from the post
Freddy Sanchez could hit third, not second. Suprisingly, Edgar Renteria could be the No.2 hitter.
Lethargy
It has me
Could have been a typo
“Surprisingly, Edgar Renteria could No. 2 on the hitter.”
oh jesus Giants
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
2010 record
3-159
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Surprisingly = predictable
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yup, that’s how you score 50 runs in a season, Brian
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
This thread is not getting better as it gets longer.
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This is interesting
On Lewis: "I put him in there (at leadoff) last year and Freddy came up to me and said he wasn’t too comfortable in that spot. That was my hope because he sees pitches, gets on base, has speed. He could be a good leadoff hitter. But a guy has to want to do it."
I wonder why Fred didn’t like it? He’s the best one on the team for it.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Maybe he doesn't like being a major league regular?
And he’s a bad soldier.
"…this thing which tells time."
He’s just THE problem, period.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Fred Lewis hitting leadoff when he doesn’t want to is still better than Velez hitting leadoff.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Gobroks taking a shit on a ball-dudes head is better than Velez anywhere in the 941 area code
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Gobroks Anybody or anything taking a shit on a ball-dudes head is better than Velez anywhere in the 941 area code
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
as I recall, the team forced him out of the leadoff spot so he could more RBIz lower in the order.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
WHY DO THE GIANTS LIKE EUGENIO VELEZ
WHY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Because he was really good for 18 at bats in July
Duh.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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I meanmaybe he'd be willing to go to Venezuela and die for the Giants.
"…this thing which tells time."
i mean seriously
do they even realize that, in the end, last year he hit .267/.308/.400? and that is not an acceptable line for either a leadoff hitter or a left fielder? do they realize???
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That wouldn’t even be good for a second baseman if Eugenio could play defense there.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Then again
Sabean said that Sanchez was “great” for the Giants last year when he played because he hit .284(/.295/.324).
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I keep thinking that they’re going to come to their senses about this whole Velez at leadoff thing.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Sabean can't even spell OBP. Must less comprehend it.
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
These one liners of total negativity are adding a lot to the discussion!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Apparently we are a little too optimistic for him.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
subtraction by addition. kind of like your boy Sabean runs a ballclub
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Grammar mistakes aside, I always love when somebody actualy isn’t grumpy and says to calm down the hate and they automatically become “[insert name hated by the majority]’s boy.”
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Spulling mistakes aside, Sabean has earned all the barbs thrown at him. Dood puts out the worst hitting team in baseball for several years running, does nothing to ameloriate or change his ways, what’s positive to say. I’m not taking digs at the players, who are who they are.
If I didn’t know better, you almost sound like you work for them or one of their outlets
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
MLB OBP by month
April: .143
May: .261
June: DNP
July: .571
August: .307
September: .294
October: .278
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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But
maybe if Bochy really just wishes hard that it’s so, he’ll improve his plate discipline!!!
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Wishing players will do what they've never done before ever over in their career = The Giants Way
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
.571! That’s what Bochy is looking at.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
what upside?
Dude is 28 this year, he is what he is.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Correct.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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Does bochy look at OBP?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
You gotta have fruit.
Makes your farts smell sweeter.
And when you’re a catcher, you smell a lot of farts.
Selectively, I guess
Bengie’s not coming back, but Velez will lead off.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
I can already see it now
it’s going to be the end of August and Velez is batting .255 with a .305 OBP and Bochy, putshim in the lineup everyday no matter what. It’s going to be just likie Molina batting cleanup.
Sabean is a liar and rufesses to learn from his mistakes, but Bochy is truly retarted and shouldn’t be allowed to decide what players get to play and what don’t. I mean he actually wants Velez and Torres playing in the lineup together. Not Bowker, Not Schierholtz, and Not Lewis. What the fuck is wrong with this guy.
then approach zero
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 9, 2009 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
Keeps his trap shut when he gets sent to Fresno...
Sabes is looking at you, Frandsey…
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 8, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
My reaction to this was similar to Michael Scott’s reaction when he found out that Toby was back. But seriously, I can’t stand to read more info like this. It’s driving me into depression
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-Roy Keane
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by Natto on Dec 8, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I disagree.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
they’re both great.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Bruce Bochy abd Brian Sabean
pulling off the most elaborate prank ever on the Giants fanbase.
The baseball Satanist
How about
Sabean “kick the tires” on Mark De Rosa for 3B? He was a pretty decent OBP guy before last year. Doesn’t he qualify as a tier 2 FA, as Sabes said he is seeking? He’s a Type B. Plenty of veteran grizzlosity and gamerness…
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 8, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions
NO
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
NUNCA
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
DE NINGUNA MANERA
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
DNW
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Wrong wrong wrong wrong
You’re wrong.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
it helps when to identify what you are talking about.
LOL me
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say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Did you click on "causes computers to crash?"
http://www.baycityball.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/rowkouzsl.png
"…this thing which tells time."
Yes
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Sometimes
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Does coordinate geometry have anything to do with your mom? If yes, then I have definitely grasped that.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
No, its much to mushy to get a firm grasp on.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
In a vacuum, I'd rather have Kouz than Garko
However, I’d rather have Garkokawa/1B free agent du jour + Pablo than Kouz + Pablo.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
tense issue
actually “it would have sucked” since you are already in the vacuum.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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I haz a sad
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/market-for-mike-cameron.html
"…this thing which tells time."
Market for Mike Cameron: SEA, CHC, BOS, NYY
He’s willing to move to LF… how about RF for the Giants?(x10000)
Hey, three of the smartest organizations out there, huh (and the Cubs) whaddaya know.
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Seattle is one of the smartest organizations?
not lately
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
How new?
Im talking about the Beltre/Sexson/Silva( althought that was pretty unpredictable they would all fail that hard) contracts and the Sherril, Jones and Tillman trade.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
That was all Bavasi.
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oh ok
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
WAY TO KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES, PUNK
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Thanks to roger
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Im not what kids these days would call “steezin”.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
No way we're outbidding any of those teams.
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 8, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Mike Cameron would be a really good pickup and he even seems like he’d be a player that the Giants would love. It doesn’t seem like we’ve got any interest in him though, unless we’re trying to keep our interest quiet.
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SABEAN: “I thought Cameron quit.”
GIANTS’ ASSISTANT: “You’re thinking of Dr. Cameron from the TV show ‘House.’ You watched that episode on the plane. We’re talking about Mike Cameron, the baseball player.”
SABEAN: “Really? I could’ve sworn we were talking about the same person.”
GIANTS’ ASSISTANT: “We weren’t.”
by Every6thDay on Dec 8, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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RIB-EYES!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 AM PST up reply actions
randy johnson on a minor league deal
why are we not on this until MadBum is ready in June?
better than the 8 million he got from us last year
Randy Johnson wouldn’t take a minor league deal.
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His nick name certainly isn’t Minor Unit!
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Fort Minor + G Unit?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 AM PST up reply actions
I know it’s a total pipe dream but what would you offer the Padres for Adrian? Would you be willing to give up some of our better prospects?
I’m thinking I’d start with Mad-Bum and Wilson would be a good start to a package but probably would have to include Posey.
/ waiting for jponry to chime in
But I think MadBum, Wilson and Posey would be too much.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 8, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
That’s fair, but the pads would be getting two well-regarded prospects and emptying a division rivals already threadbare cupboard.
Yeah but the value of Gonzalez is HIGH. He has 2 years left and is an elite player in the prime of his career.
NNNNNNFW
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Peguero was referenced as being one of the most requested Giant minor leaguers at the GM Meetings thus far.
I’m guessing that means that others regard him highly.
“Two minor league names that have drawn trade inquiries from multiple teams: Left-hander Dan Runzler (no surprise there) and OF Francisco Peguero.”
I would be okay with trading either one.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
If that’s true, I would honestly love the idea of selling high on him right now.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
If they can get us a controllable 3 or 5 hitter, I’d give them both away.
"…this thing which tells time."
The rangers need bullpen help and are shopping michael young
If we could trade Runzler and 1 or 2 non Posey/MadBum prospects i’d love to do that
On a personal note I want the Giants to keep Neal.
He’s extremely friendly, and I have an irrational hope that he’s the real deal.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 8, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
If it didn’t include Posey, I’m sure it would at least cost Neal
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 8, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
In a year, I’d wager that Posey/Garko outhits Torrealba/Gonzalez, so I don’t think it’s a good idea.
I think it would definitely have to start with MadBum and would probably have to include Neal too. Personally, I think it’s too much (Gonzalez is only under contract for two more years, right?)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah but maybe you could pull a Mets and only complete the deal if Gonzalez agrees to an extension first.
ONLY two more years?
That’s an eternity in baseball years, and it gives the Giants an opportunity to free base on their drug of choice: WIN NOW. Banking on pitchers to last for years and years is a whole lot of stupid, so the window of riding Lincecum and Cain (and Sanchez, I suppose) won’t be open for very long. Rather than trade for spare parts, I’d rather my team trades for a whole car.
Lincecum
for an entire team of elite prospects…GO!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 AM PST up reply actions
You’re talking about 12 years of MadBum and Neal for 2 years of Gonzalez. It’s a steep price to pay. I’m not necessarily saying I wouldn’t do it under any circumstances but it’s a lot to give up for one player.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That’s assuming that either Mad Bum or Neal even fucking pan out. That’s one issue I have with perceived value of prospects. There’s no guarantee that they can even make the majors let alone last 6 years in them.
And we’re talking about the Giants here, so it’s almost a given that they’re not going to pan out sadly enough to say.
of course there isn't
There also isn’t any guarantee that Adrian Gonzalez is going to repeat his 2009 in ’10 and ’11. He was obviously fantastic last year, but he was only a (still very good) 3-4 win player the three years before that.
And was it a given that Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum and Jonathan Sanchez weren’t going to pan out? I must have missed that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’d bank on Gonzalez continuing to play this well. He’s been getting better not worse. True, he could plateau but even then you have an elite level player who would enhance the Giants fortunes well enough to put them in the playoffs, which is the idea right?
What good is all of our pitching prospects if we never are going to have an offense to score runs. This offense has been dreadful for years. We’re going to waste the best years of our pitching staff behind a 3 run a game offense. Taking a risk might be necessary. Not that Sabean can be expected to do any outside of the box type of thinking.
Trading two top prospects for a great hitter is outside the box thinking?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I can understand your desperate desire for a top hitter in the lineup, but I just can’t personally advocate giving up Bumgarner, Neal + for one player.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
boston could come oer the top for any deal for agon that wouldn’t include Bum, Neal +, especially in division
But you’re willing to put trust in the Giants farm system though to develop quality players for the ML roster?
Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Sandoval and Wilson all seem pretty okay.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
True. But only one of them is a hitter. Which is what we need badly. And have for years. I have hope for Neal and Posey, but my god this team (all bay area teams) are frustrating as fuck.
If you increase runs scored or decrease runs allowed, you win more games. When it comes down to measuring the Giants’ farm products, a 3-WAR pitcher is worth just as much as a 3-WAR hitter.
Lethargy
It has me
yes but
if you already have 5 2+ win starters, and only 2 2+ win hitters, a 3 win hitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 3 win pitcher.
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--Daisy Owl
at this point
I don’t see why the Giants don’t see what they can get with Posey, Bumgarner, and all their other prospects. I mean, what does it matter how good you system is when you don’t know how to use it.
The whole point is to build from the draft, but all they’ve done this off season is focus on blocking the players they’ve developed. And, even if they don’t block their players they reward the wrong “prospect”(Velez, Ortmeier, Burris) that everyone else besides them can see is undeserving. Plus they don’t even know how to let young players succeed in the majors. Sandoval being the lone exception, but Bochy misuses him too by refusing to give him a day off, until he hurts himself.
So basically I don’t care anymore(really just right this second because I’m pissed off) about the Giants protecting their prospects. Might as well trade them for something good like AGON instead of F. Sanchez.
God I hate this team.
So, you’re impatient and you want the Giants to make ill-advised decisions because of it. Cool.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
the thing is
other than Sandoval, we really haven’t had hitting prospects of the same caliber as Posey (and, pending how well he does in 2010, Neal). And they handled Sandoval right. I’m guessing most of what they’re saying about Posey is mostly posturing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
it was ment with sarcasm
I don’t really want to trade Posey, or any top prospect really. I was just ranting about my frusteration with the team refusing to play their best hitting prospect, but at the same time rewarding players like Velez and Torres.
I have always wanted the Giants to be a team that builds from within. So the post was meant to be sarcastic in that their finally starting to give young guys a chance, but they give the wrong guys the opportunities.
No doubt, and there's a lot of "save them from themselves" medicine at play, too...
Emptying the system for a great player like A-Gon would enable them to continue to block young players and sign cheaper vets, only this time, they might not be terrible options to compliment a decent core.
I realize I am sort of advocating the Giants go back to business as usual, but since they have really not been able to shake that old habit of crusty vets around young pitching, why not play to their strength for once?
OT:
Google real-time search is pretty nice:
http://www.google.com/search?esrch=RTSearch&tbs=rltm:1&tbo=u&hl=en&q=winter+meetings
F. the Lewis.
Needs more Dye.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
But they want Renteria to hit second and Sanchez third
Velez
Renteria
Sanchez
Sandoval
Dye
Kouzmanoff
Olivo
Rowand
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
MAKE HIM STOP!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Going off of Sabean's comments about Sanchez batting third...
Velez
Renteria
Sanchez
Sandoval
Dye
Kouzmanoff
Olivo
Rowand
Technically it was Bochy saying that which I guess makes it worse since he’s the guy putting the lineup together.
Anyway, that’s gross.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Keep Pablo.
Trade Timmy to Red Sox for a billion prospects.
I’ll take Buchholz, Bowden, Kelly, Lars Anderson, and Ryan Westmoreland.
What could we get for Pablo? Timmy?
I don’t think there is a match out there?
"…this thing which tells time."
Boch prefers this one:
Velez
Renteria
Sanchez
Sandoval
Kouzmanoff
Olivo
Rowand
Torres
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
/projectile vomit
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
what
did they get relegated to AA?
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Seriously, I wonder if there’s a way to do reverse MLEs. My guess at this crew’s AA slashies:
Velez – .280/.330/.450
Sanchez – .320/.350/.420
Kouzmanoff – .270/.340/.550
Sandoval – .370/.450/.620
Olivo – .270/.280/.450
Rowand – .290/.350/.470
Schierholtz – .320/.350/.480
Renteria – .280/.330/.430
I think that would be an above-average offense in the majors, but it isn’t as good as it should be.
this site work both ways: MLE calc
Velez’s 2009 translate to Conn: .317/.374/.496
Sandoval: .400/.479/.710, barely even Bondsian.
And that’s Conn/Eastern League. Panda in the Texas League: .423/.502/.754. I could live with that.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
you are correct
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 8, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Cheesecake transcends cakedom.
Pumpkin, Boston Cream, Apple, blueberry, sweet potato and cherry are still the tits.
uhhhhh cheesecake. will eat it off the floor if i have to.
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now i really want cheescake
thanks a lot
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For what it's worth, Kouzmanoff plays half his games at Petco
Road splits:
2007: .273/.327/.496
2008: .292/.329/.473
2009: .287/.323/.455
by RoyaleWithCheese on Dec 8, 2009 2:59 PM PST reply actions
Like your screen name
just watched that again recently. Nope, it doesn’t get old
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I don't want a Large Farva
I want a Goddamn Liter of Cola.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
lol movie fail
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
altertatively (right movie this time)
Well, I’m a mushroom-cloud-layin’ motherfucker, motherfucker
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Frandsen plus a coupon for Timmy only going 5 innings against the Pads in 1 game (redeemable from June-Aug '10)
I bet they do it just for the coupon so let’s get ready for the Kouz chant followed by waving our Tye-Dye towels for Jermaine.
Win the inning.
Well here is some great news from Indy!
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/nationals-sign-jerry-owens.html
Scratch him off of the epic fail list.
"…this thing which tells time."
Poorly run baseball teams are poorly run.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Baggs tweets
Sabean: No chance Bengie Molina circles back to Giants. “That ship has sailed.” Pudge’s two-year deal really hurts search for replacement.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Buster's time may end up just coming by default
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Pudge’s two-year deal really hurts search for replacement.
Good.
Also, this time last year weren’t they saying they had no interest in bringing Aurilia back?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
That ship almost immediately took on water, btw.
by Every6thDay on Dec 8, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Huh.
Didn’t think that ship could float.
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Baggs tweets some more
Sabean: Johnny Damon not a fit. And Jermaine Dye? “We want to stay young. That’s a blanket statement, not a comment against Dye.”
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Yay!
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From Baggs
Sabean on Juan Uribe: “It’s possible, and I underline possible, that they could (restart talks). But we haven’t been approached yet.”
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 8, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions
Translation
There is no market for a multi year deal, and we still want to displace Panda from 3B.
"…this thing which tells time."
I would be ok bringing Uribe back in the role he had last year, just depends how much of a raise he wants. And 1 year deal only.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
If we brought Uribe back, I would hope we Dave Roberts Renteria.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Dec 8, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No matter what happens, I would hope we Dave Roberts Renteria.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
thisthisthis
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Thanks to roger
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AP reporting that Peter Gammons is headed for the MLB Network
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions
damn i wish i had mlb network
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
He could be a ball dude with us. That wouldn’t be a huge step down from ESPN analyst. That was a joke, but now that I think about it, it’s not a joke.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Interesting.
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I was wondering if that had been covered here. He can go love the BoSox on a network I do not have.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
And I thought my dislike for Rosenthal and Heyman was a bit much
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I never said i disliked him. Just his writing on ESPN always seems to overflow with love of New England. He is tolerable on TV in small doses for me.
Could not stand his interview with ARod though.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I agree with you.
His love for the BoSox overfloweth to the point where I tuned him out years ago.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 8, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
F you. F you. F you. You’re cool Jon Miller. F you. I’m out!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
DUCKING THE HEATER
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Now back to “Grab Some Pine Nuts” with John Kruk
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
bad contract swap
Cubs and Mariners are talking about a Bradley for Carlos Silva swap, though nothing is imminent.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions
Dodgers think manny is back on banned womens drug after he requested Oprah to be played on Dodger vision in between innings.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:22 PM PST reply actions
lolwut?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
some random tweet on the Yahoo winter meetings chat
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
wut
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 8, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
I'm psyched they let Sean Forman into the BBWAA though
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
5:08pm: The Rockies made progress with Torrealba this afternoon, according to Renck. The catcher is looking for a two year deal worth about $6MM, like the one Ivan Rodriguez signed.
3:36pm: Troy E. Renck of the Denver Post has multiple teams competing for free agent catcher Yorvit Torrealba, with the Rockies a “slight favorite.” Torrealba hopes to re-sign with Colorado, but the Mets, Giants, Blue Jays, and Royals are other suitors. To
DNW
Marlins exchanging and receiving names on Uggla, Lindstrom and Pinto.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions
probably a few teams
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Watch his plate patience
During the interview. It will still end in a strikeout or weak grounder, but he’ll work the interviewer.
About to jump into a vault full of spreadsheets ala Scrooge McDuck.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
CLUTCH YOUR SPREADSHEETS!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
or, given the subject, should I say, wreck’d
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
I imagine he won’t be selling jeans.
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No jeans
He just sells tarps now.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
if they land Bay
even with his issues, that lineup will score a lot of runs
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Having an awesome CF can compensate for a less than steller LF
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
awesome CF AND awesome RF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah
But I don’t think the RF would affect the LF too much…
Unless having a great RF would mean that your CF could move a few feet left to compensate…
I think i’m overthinking now.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
The Twins offered Perkins for Kouzmanoff, but the Padres want more, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:41 PM PST reply actions
The Padres are insane.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Why would the Twins do that?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I meant Perkins for Kouz? Why would the Twins do that.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Wow Perkins can kill
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
what the hell
the Padres have a seriously inflated view of what Kouz is worth
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I don’t think it’s so much that people here overvalue FLew, it’s that we really don’t like the guys he’s being replaced with. Saying he’s better than Velez isn’t saying much.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
Correct.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
that’s the only shot where Bochy’s whole melon fits on the screen.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
In soft focus, Bochy kind of reminds me of Karl Pilkington.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Does this make Bochy’s a grapefruit?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
jcrasnick
Blast from the past: Michael Tucker, who hasn’t played in majors since 2006, is here in Indy. I’m told he still wants to play.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Quick... Somebody help me deliver this to Sabean PRONTO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcB6CRwyOJM
HURRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
ZERE IS A SINGULARITY IN ZE PLANET’S CORE
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If I show up in Indy this week, is there a chance someone will sign me? Seriously, what is he doing? Handing out resumes? Just send your damn agent
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
rimshot
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Was twitter around?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
It was big until around January though.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
I cannot stand the Betty Draper character anymore.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
ditto
I had sympathy for her at the beginning, but she just annoys me now.
Absolutely
I went on a marathon mad men spree catching up and by the end of the 3rd season (SPOILERS)
I wanted her plane to crash
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Season 3 was pretty disappointing. A lot of the supporting characters that really enriched the show were marginalized. Kinsey, Cosgrove, Campbell, even Peggy. It was like they thought Betty and Don were the only characters left that could have compelling stories and then just tossed in Roger and Hilton to spice up Don’s life. Betty lost tons of sympathy at the end of season 2 and did nothing to earn it back. The end of the Rome episode really soured me on Betty and I don’t know how I’ll be able to root for her again. Damn shame. The season 3 finale was boss, though. I cannot wait for next season.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I only got into the show (as in watched S1) halfway through the broadcast of S3, so I didn’t “catch up” with it until the careening towards the climax, which was pretty dope. Gypsy & the Hobo. And the finale was AWESOMESAUCE. My mom once did that when she was working (she was a creative director).
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lol
wut
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 8, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Baggs just tweeted:
Giants haven’t met with Scott Boras yet, but they’re expected to discuss Adrian Beltre.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
I really wish he would say who expects this to happen?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Well then they wouldn’t be anonymous sources, would they?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
it doesn't have to be an anonymous source, though
it could be just scouts or baseball executives or fans or media talking heads, or Giants insiders – but some idea of who has this expectation would be helpful. otherwise, it just sounds like made up bullshit.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
That’s what the winter meetings is all about!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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I don’t mind rumor mongering, but at least say “a source” – I’m not asking for that much specificity.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Sample dialogue:
SABEAN: “Mr. Boras, sir… how is Mr. Beltre’s testical situation?”
BORAS: “Resolved.”
SABEAN: “I think you’ll understand if I skip my customary tire-kicking in this instance.”
BORAS: “Of course.”
SABEAN: “So let’s just get down to it, then. How much will it cost to sign Jermaine Dye?”
BORAS: “He’s not even my client.”
SABEAN: “Playing hard to get… I follow you.”
by Every6thDay on Dec 8, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
The Florida Marlins couldn’t get a deal done with right-hander Josh Johnson.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 4:03 PM PST reply actions
I read somewhere
The Rangers offered Feliz and Smoak for them. Good god.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
*for him
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
no kidding
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I mean
Johnson is a great pitcher, but he threw barely over 100 innings total from 07-08.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
For a whole pack of Johnsons!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Josh Johnson
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’d say he’s better. I have to say, it seems quite tempting to dangle him and see if we could get the same offer.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
we have Cain signed through his arb years already
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Still...
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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Thats the good news
The bad news is he is one Tiger’s sleepovers
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
the Rangers offered that?
and the Marlins said NO? They’re insane.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know if they said no or not
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
oh, right. they should say yes!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Hard to call the Marlins insane. They seem to know what they’re doing year to year. Especially given the measly budget they have with which to operate on.
Logan Morrison says hi btw.
yeah, I know, but if they’re shopping Johnson, it’s hard to see a better offer than that out there.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Possibly. Guess it depends on whether you think Feliz can be a starter or not. Josh Johnson is pretty damn good.
I believe Feliz can be a good starter.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
SMOAK ON TEH WATER!!!1
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
How did Smoak do last year in the minors? Pretty well, right?
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CAIN FOR SMOAK AND FELIZ...AND FIELDER!!!
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 8, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Wow!
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
Are you kidding?
and the marlins didn’t accept?
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–Asked about up-the-middle depth, particularly with Freddy Sanchez and Edgar Renteria coming back from surgeries, Sabean said the club is counting on Emmanuel Burriss to get healthy. He also mentioned Ryan Rohlinger. One notable omission: Kevin Frandsen.
LOLFrandsen
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I know this is joked about all the time…But Frandsen really did do something like bork Sabean’s/Bochy’s daughter, right? It is the only explanation I can find for the royal F job he’s gotten?
hkysmksbw?
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Still, he was getting screwed before he complained this year. It is so aggravating the way this organization holds grudges. And yes, I know this was covered above. I can’t help the rage.
2007: not going to bench Ray Durham even though he hit .218 for the season
2008: Frandsen got hurt
2009: Giants preferred Burriss because they do not pay attention to minor league stats.
This team is infuriating.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
And you know they won’t let him leave until his contract is over. He is destined for Fresno. I would love a small LOL if he was sent to the Flying Squirrells
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He's out of options
So if he’s not on the Giants, he’ll be with another organization.
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LOL BURRISS
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Step 3
Profit
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean said the club is counting on Emmanuel Burriss to get healthy.
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This is not answering the question of why he’s not required to be even a mediocre hitter.
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Sabean is also counting on Osama bin Ladin to surrender himself to Ariel Sharon
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Burriss might almost be worth a look if he can play SS. Almost.
As it is, he’s the Bocock of second basemen.
Sabean said the club is counting on Emmanuel Burriss to get healthy
That is the worst sentence ever.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE
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I can’t imagine why the Marlins wouldn’t take that.
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Get off, you ASS, Sabes.
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Because the Marlins need pitching not more first baseman when they already have Gaby Sanchez, Cantu and Logan Morrison on their depth chart. Morrison is rated just as high as Smoak is, if not more so by some people.
Feliz would be a nice start for them but they would probably want more.
Two future big contracts to negotiate instead of one?
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I wonder if Smoak is blocked.
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Crap. Meant esseffgeez.
I’ll shut up.
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Chris Davis is going to be their opening day 1B but I don’t know if that necessarily blocks Smoak. A surplus of offensive options (especially at 1B) is a new and alien concept to me!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
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Sabean at 24 Willie Mays Plaza after the Nathan trade?
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants are interested in second baseman Orlando Hudson, major league sources told Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com
For what purpose? Are they really thinking of moving Sanchez to another position?
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Sanch can play 3b
He played full time there in 06, to decent UZR results
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his bat doesn't play at third
either move him to SS, or leave him be, dagnabbit!
2b and 3b are basically equal in terms of defensive difficulty (even though third basemen have historically been better hitters). That’s not the problem. The problem is Hudson’s bat doesn’t play at 1B (or more accurately, is not better than Garko’s). This whole idea would improve the defense somewhat but the offense not a jot. I guess, if they non-tender Garko and they can get Hudson for what the Dogs paid him last year, it improves the team a smidge for not much money.
I just do not see the necessity of going after Hudson this year. It’s as if they feel bad for not going after him last year.
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I KNOW!!! THIS IS CRAZY AND DESERVING OF ALL CAPS
But, seriously, I would welcome Orlando Hudson as well.
I'd trade Freddy Sanchez for Tim Alderson.
Wait…
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 8, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
It would be Tommy Joseph and Emmanuel Burriss Not Being Our Starting Second Baseman For Two Months for Tim Alderson, though.
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Tommy joseph is going to win us a WS, so no
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Every rumor gives me a sad.
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Okay
Now I’m convinced that these are just random names being floated in these rumors. Or Brian Sabean is insane as well as stupid, now.
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MLB.com’s Corey Brock hears that Kouzmanoff has drawn interest from as many as eight teams. The Padres aren’t interested in Lewis or Frandsen.
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Oh
REJECTED!!!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
That sounds dirty.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 8, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Kouzmeoff
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SO LETS TRADE LEWIS AND FRANDSEN FOR UGGLA INSTEAD CAUSE I’M SURE FLORIDA WOULD DO THAT!
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
In all fairness, I wouldn’t be either
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Rosenthal hears that Sabean has at least considered signing Jason Bay.
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I think it’s going to be way too much in terms of both years and dollars, and his defense eats up a fair portion of his value. That said, he’s from BC and apparently was really hot to sign with the M’s. So it could be that he’s willing to give a small discount to other more distant West Coast teams as well.
I guess I’d be happier about even a bad deal to Bay than I would any Jermaine Dye signing. /faint praise
Would rather want Holliday. His market does not seem to be as much as previously assumed.
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Honestly. Boras is probalby waiting for the dust to settle and for one big money team (Boston) to get desperate. However, if you’re willing to spend to get Bay, you’re much better off signing Holliday for just a little bit more.
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I'd Take it if Bay Replaces Velez/Torres Stupidity in LF
But they’d probably move Velez to RF so as not to lose his leadoff speed (back to the dugout since he can’t get on base).
by Giants Fan in MA on Dec 8, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
The nice thing about Bay
Is that he’s a good enough hitter that you could feasibly sign ONLY him, stay pat everywhere else, and your lineup looks much better.
Rowand CF
Sanchez 2B
Bay LF
Sandoval 3B
Garko 1B
Schierholtz RF
Posey C
Renteria SS
Compared to opening day, that’s a pretty good offensive lineup.
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Haven’t seen NJ’s name connected to the Giants the last two days at all.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 8, 2009 5:16 PM PST reply actions
maybe that's a good sign
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he wants 2 years
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
i want him for 2 years
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Too many problems with Dan Uggla (salary, subpar glove) to label Giants a serious bidder for his services, I’m told.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 5:48 PM PST reply actions
Or they hate giving up players + having to spend money on a guy who can’t play defense when there are guys who are similar hitters on the FA market?
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Im sorry didn’t know there were any other middle infielders available who hit 30 HR’s a year and who have been improving their plate discipline.
Defense is nice I agree, but it would be nice to have people who can actually hit too.
Who said we need a MI? We actually already have the MI covered, it would be better to sign a 1B/3B
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that we should settle for overpaying for Dan Uggla just because he’s “the best out there”.
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Who said we would be overpaying? Bullshit MLB rumors?
Maybe teams really are asking Sabean for the moon these days, but nobody thinks Uggla is worth Jonathan Sanchez or Madison Bumgarner. Either the rumors are speculative bullshit or the Marlins don’t take the Giants as a suitable trade partner.
I mean remember when everyone thought the Nats were asking for a ton for Nick Johnson and the Giants backed out? Then the Marlins got him for peanuts. I’m going to laugh when the Marlins trade Uggla away for the equivalent of Kevin Frandsen and a bullpen arm.
How do you know this isn’t just posturing on the part of the Giants to get the Marlins to drop their price? If they’re really insisting on MadBum or Sanchez and they won’t budge, it seems like a good time to turn away and see if that helps.
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That’s good if he was really going to cost J Sanchez or actual good prospects. Not so good if he could have been had for Pucetas or something.
It’ll be interesting to see what he’s actually traded for. But if they’re insisting on JSanchez or MadBum, I’m glad they’re stepping back.
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they’re waiting to get boston in the mix when/if bay goes elsewhere and holliday signs with the mets. gmen won’t trade MadBum, orioles won’t trade tillman
Boston has no interest in him to replace bay
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
The one thing Boston covets most from Florida is getting Hanley back
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants and Orioles remain interested in Uggla, and the Red Sox view him as a potential fallback in left field in the unlikely event that they fail to sign either Jason Bay or Matt Holliday.
are you calling ken rosenthal a liar? didn’t he get that manny acta thing right? eventually?
are you calling ken rosenthal a liar?
I have a bunch of insults I can call him
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, yeah. Salary has to be the biggest reason the Giants aren’t going after him. One Uggla = 10 Velezes, at least.
One of these days, the Giants will have a sweet cable contract and draw 2.5M+ fans, and then they’ll really spend.
One wonders what the new excuse will be when the stadium debt is finally retired.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Oakland A’s taking over San Jose, blah blah blah
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Aiming to be the first team to score under 600 runs since the strike year.
Mission Accomplished
by E Ticket on Dec 8, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
DA CRUSHIN RUSSIAN
Hey he hit a homerun in his first at bat??? That’s got to be something right says sabes. *Trades timmy, cain, and panda. Uhh my names sabes and I am the best gm evurrr.
wut
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
His name is Sabes and he is the best GM ever.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Miguel Tejada
Anyone interested in Miggy? Would not cost a draft pick, can hit third or fifth in the order. Can play some 3b or SS. RHH, Might be able to get cheap
not really
doesn’t hit enough for 1B and not good enough to justify moving Pablo off third.
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and I dont see him playing SS
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
I think he’d make Renteria look like Vizquel.
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I don’t really get the “can’t hit enough for 1B” position when the Giants have never been able to have a 1B who hit at that level. What are we using to determine who can and cannot hit well enough for 1B?
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But if we have far below league average first basemen, and we can get somebody that’ closer to league average, why should “well he’s not good enough for 1B” put a stop to that?
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How is Tejada closer to league average 1B than Garko?
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You didn’t say he’s no better than Garko. You said he’s not a good enough bat for a first baseman.
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He’s not. And he’s not better than what we have already so there’s no point.
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To illustrate
Last three years, Tejada: .298/.336/.437, 103 OPS+, 449 G, 1907 PA, 45 HR, 233 RBI
Last three years, Garko: .278/.350/.437, 108 OPS+, 397 G, 1504 PA, 48 HR 202 RBI
what’s the point?
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I wasn’t arguing about Tejada. I was just raising a point about that particular argument.
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Seems kind of strawman-ish to me.
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Fine, I’ll just complain about random players from now on.
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That’s the spirit!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure I've told this story before
But I still remember watching a game when Mark Grudzielanek first came up with the Expos. Kruk and Kuip tried to pronounce his name for a while, and then finally just said, “If he sticks around in the Majors, I’m calling him Mark.”
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Heh. Harry had a thing where he tried to pronounce players’ names backwards. He didn’t make it very far on “Kenaleizdurg.”
We like to lie to ourselves
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Just because we haven’t had a good 1B in awhile doesn’t mean we should settle for Tejada.
I mean, what the hell makes Tejada a better option than Ryan Garko? Tell me.
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Not saying Tejada is, but Im just wondering why clearly better options are disapproved because of that reason.
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OT
MOAR LOL TIGER WOODS!
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/08/alleged-naked-photos-tiger-woods-shopped-playgirl/
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Tiger’s out of his mind, AND he was on pills, AND gatorade said goodbye to him… everythings coming out right now
HOW!!?!?!!?!?! haha, just wait and see him fail when he comes back next season, unless he practices like crazy
It’ll be like Kobe. He’ll be brought down by all the media and then once he starts to do well again, everybody will praise him again.
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Ohhhh dude, my dad still HATES Kobe for that, Dad’s a warriors fan so we both obviously hate him, me for different reasons, just since he’s so good and cocky
Well, yeah. Fans still hate him. But the media seems to love him (at least in my opinion).
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they don’t have any team that’s good to cover (except the Sharks, snore) so they take what they can get.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Or he could go the Vick/Bonds route with the media (Although Vick has done well yet)
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
it depends on how you handle it. if you hide and don’t get out there do the public apology dance, and come clean, the media just keeps coming after you, and eventually, the story will get played out and the next scandal will come along and people will move on. most people don’t care that much about these people’s personal life, and just want to see him play golf.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
perhaps the golf course will be his only refuge from his destroyed personal life.
not the same circumstances, but when Bonds was dealing with Balco allegations and the death of his father, etc, it was a really brutal time but he was his best and had this incredible ability to focus on the field. Perhaps Tiger’s focus will be similarly enhanced.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
speaking of Bonds, did we talk about Nikoli getting arrested? I’m sure there is a fan post, but im too lazy to look
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What was he arrested for?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/12/8/1192175/barry-bonds-son-nikolai-arrested
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
There was an earlier Deadspin article basically saying the women who first came out were basically madams, and that Tiger had new girls all the time, and all over the place.
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6 over par
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
yeah. he really fucked up this time.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
I like that one of mistresses thought she was the only “other” women in his life. She kept it secret until she found out that she was 1 of 3 and not 1 of 2!
The values of cheating have been thrown out the window. Show some respect only have on women on the side!
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
that’s 2 over par
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
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Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, for the love of God
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HIm too?
that’s HAWT
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t care.
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No, 5’4".
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I'M BIG WHERE IT COUNTS, BABY
MY DVD COLLECTION
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Sadly
It looks like they’re going after a righty 3B, unless Sabes is just bullshitin. Moving Pablo would be incredibly stupid, as Beltre, Miggy, DeRosa all are weaker options.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 8, 2009 7:17 PM PST reply actions
You got Live?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Bro what games you play?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Ohhh now, i play Halo occasionally, Madden a good amount, NHL 10 is AWESOME, NBA 2k10, MLB sometimes, you?
MW2, Halo 3
my Gamertag is GrahamCrakalaka
hit it up
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
HAHA! NO WAY! dude, i’ll kick your ass in halo, i’ll hit you up sometime, this week though, i gotta get this paper done. My buddy just got MW2, can’t stop playing it, you know what i say to you both? SUPER MARIO BROS>>>>>>>>> MW2 suck it GrahamCrakalaka
Im not too good at Halo
but yes. Super Mario Bros is good.
Mario kart and Super Smash Bros
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Halo is junk, Smash Bros. is a good game but just not my thing, and Mario Kart is freaking awesome. That’s my final verdict.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
OT: girlfriend problem…. seems my girlfriend is going to NOT talk to me starting winter break which is next friday, and continue for 3 weeks. So she won’t talk or text me, because she’s just been starting fights every time we talk lately. But apparently my friends have told me this girl across the street digs me, and i’m not stupid i ain’t touchin that. But yea, very interesting this past week
Are you drunk right now?
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I have one more due on Monday, then I'm done
Plus that’s pretty WTF on your girlfriend’s part.
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Yea, good for you, you started your paper yet? Mines not due until next Wednesday, but i got finals next week. This paper is just too easy anyway, so i’m not worried… Yea, i was a little surprised with what she said
I'm maybe 1/3 of the way done
This paper is pretty much my only grade though, so I def. need to do well on it.
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Same dude, like my professor rocks, he told us that whatever we get on this paper is our final grade for the course
Yeah, I kinda like it. Good luck with yours pika
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My group is pissed at me b/c I couldn’t get more than one slide on using a t-test in a hypothetical study
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Whose idea was the not talking thing?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Her’s, because she feels that not talking to me would help her out… haha, i told her she wouldn’t last a week
So she wants it to work out. How do you feel?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Yea, i’m cool with it, whatever way helps her, because honestly, who likes fighting with their girl?
Remember:
the fighting is coming from a lack of communication between you. Isolation isn’t gonna make that better, it’s just going to put it off. Unless you guys actually think about how to communicate better when you get back together, nothing will change.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Good point, i like it, and you know, the good thing about our relationship is that we actually do get our feelings out and talk about it without a problem. But here’s the problem at school, i have over 100 friends, not all i would hang out with all the time, but still enough to just hang and talk with a little. She doesnt have much, so we’re always talking, and always going out on the weekends because she doesnt have that connection of friends
I can understand that, but when you’re in a relationship, your friends are her friends. If she doesn’t like them, or can’t get along with them, it’ll only be more trouble later.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Also remember disagreements will happen, its how you deal with them that matters.
I fight almost weekly with my fiance, sometime serious fights occur long term. But I love this women so damn much, that I couldn’t picture a life w/o her.
Also, any couples who claim they don’t fight are usually full of shit and/or on the verge of a breakup.
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
or just starting out.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
it was the time that you wanted to hang out with her
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Now that i think of it we fought in the beginning. We met in O chem and would have epic battles over right answers.
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
my wife and I met working at jamba juice. She quit cause she couldn’t handle me being her boss =)
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before the fighting...
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, exactly, if you don’t fight with your woman, somethings wrong, because i’ve never heard that happen. My friend here at school broke up with his girl 4 months ago though, after being together for a year (break up had to do with, she stopped loving him) and he’s still hung up on her… and he’s said some extremely degrading things to her and her new guy… I’ll never be someone that takes it that seriously, nor will i be someone who gets physical
you know...
there are things you can that don’t involve too much or any talking…
that might help.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
J5
You sank my battleship!
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by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
just remember this phrase: “We were on a break!”
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, you just got dumped
And chances are she has been seeing someone else.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
That’s the guilt talking.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Please
no relationship discussions on this site. That’s really the last thing I want to see
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
he said "OT"
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Oh whatever, we talk about everything else here. Sounds like someone’s got a case of the mondays!
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It was a really bad case.
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by Natto on Dec 8, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It snowed! I made a mini foot tall snowman on my front lawn.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
In Omaha?
Eight or nine inches so far and still coming down.
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It’s crazy here. Omaha doesn’t get too much snow. The roads were so bad I couldn’t get to my clinic today and they already cancelled school for tomorrow.
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WOW, yea, this arctic storm is reeking havoc across the country, we’re starting to get it here in Cincy, well it’s almost over actually, but it’s all rain, but it’s supposed to be bad tomorrow. GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!!
Pretty soon I think they will change it to something along the lines of “diversification of meteorological character”
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by TehGreekStallion on Dec 8, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
It snowed here? How did I miss this?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
from downtown SF
we could see snow on the East Bay hills yesterday AM, and for a bit on Tues. PM could see snow all over Mt. Diablo. Danville and places like that got snow, apparently.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 9, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
The Chronicles of Life
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
/is hopeful
/has hopes crushed
/becomes cautiously optimistic
/cautious optimism crushed
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Well if we’re really gonna do this, here is my advice, PIKAgiant. Break up with her. Trust me. She wants to ignore you for three fucking weeks? Dump her now, and do it quick.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
She wants to ignore me because she feels it’d be best for her to clear her mind and not use me. Because that’s what i’ve been getting, all that built up anger at everything gets thrown at me, and most of the time i dont care, it’s when she asks for a better response i get pissed, sine she rarely likes the responses i give… eh, whatever, i’ll deal with it, it’s her that i feel wont be able to
boo
instincts are all thrown off in relationships.
better advice: find a close friend you trust completely, and trust HIS instincts.
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This
That excuse about “not wanting to use you” is utter BS
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Immature people in general make those kinds of excuses. It’s selfish- and I’ve personally never found ignoring the problem to be a good way of handling things. Just look at Bruce Bochy. “I don’t want to communicate with you for three weeks” sounds an awful lot like “Molina is a much better option than Posey BORK”
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
if she DFAs you,
you should consider non-tendering her
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 8, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
guys seem to want to solve problems…. women sometimes just want to vent – we’re not necessarily telling you our problems for you to solve them for us, sometimes it is just venting.
When I’m in that frame of mind I tell Mr. Merope “I just need you to listen, you don’t have actually DO anything else.”
On the other hand I will say “I need your help with this problem.” To indicate when an answer or solution is desired.
Yea for sure, i definitely see that, but in my situation, if i don’t say the right thing, like if i only say “oh i’m sorry” or “oh no”, her response is “that’s all you can say?” where on the other hand, when i say something or complain about something, she’ll just say “oh no”
I guess you just have to take a critical look at the relationship. What are you really getting out of it? Are you putting more into the relationship than you are getting out of it?
One of the biggest challenges in a relationship, especially with you younger folks, is that you are both still growing and developing as individuals. You could grow together… or you could grow in totally different directions…
let's see...
if she starts a fight every time you talk, I don’t think that’s punishment…
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by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
My ex had that idea once. Only she didn’t tell me, but decided that we were still dating. Yeah. We broke up pretty quick. That sucked.
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Just be wary man. I mean, respect her need for some space, obviously. Three weeks is a long time, though, and you’re going to need to talk to her about what’s going on (beyond the not-talking idea) before too long. Be ready for that.
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Yep, for sure, i mean we went 3 months or so without seeing eachother since that was summer break and all… but we still talked… Just recently, she feels she’s been starting fights with me and stuff, and is being bitchy. So all i did was say “ok, sure” and let it slide
There is a difference between wanting space and wanting 3 weeks away from you… Without so much as a text message (about as impersonal as you can get). You’re with the wrong girl
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Well, here’s the thing, this is my first relationship, and we’ve been together for over a year or so. So, this is the first time this has really happened, and i dont know if this has something to do with stress from home and school, because her parents have threatened to pull her out if she doesnt get like a 3.2 or something like that, which i think is crazy. But i’m more apathetic towards the whole no talking thing, you know?
The O's met with the Marlins about Dan Uggla, but the Marlins want two pitching prospects in return and the Orioles are reluctant to hand that kind of package over
pucetas & martinez?
pucetas & frandsen?
Pucetas and Sosa?
Bucardo?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
UGGLA=BAD DEFENSE THOUGH!!!!!!!! we’re all about speed and defense, and he brings neither, PASSSSSSSSS! :)
that’s why we got Edgar Renteria and Ryan Garko.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
and Fred Lewis!
/ducks
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
team leader in OBP*
- OBP defined here as “On Being (the) Problem”
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Our Big Problem
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Southeastern Cyan Crested Mallards
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
My dad breeds ducks.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
NERD! wait, actually that’s kinda cool, better than what i do at school, and that’s put a shaft into the ground and check out the soil
Check the soil for what?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds delicious
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
speed and defense was Figgins for 9 million, sucks we gotta shoot for Uggla at 6-7, but it is what it is. if he comes close to what kent was it’s a decent gamble
Hey, Vinnie Chulk signed with the Pirates yesterday. I hadn’t even noticed.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Bobby Crosby is apparently on his way there too.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
Actually the Pirates thought they signed Sidney Crosby
Bobby’s agent presented his client under false pretenses…
- my client is known as the Kid (Bobby was a kid once)
- he’s on the ice a lot (Bobby uses ice packs as he gets hurt A LOT)
- rookie of the year (Yes, Bobby was once ROY)
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 8, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, Pirates. You’re just so adorable, with the way you try to make your team better
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I MENTIONED IT
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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word is Bobby Crosby is finna sign wit dem lickety split as well
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
/silent fart
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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GIants linked to Matt Holliday's urologist!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean has BPH and needs a TURP.
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WEBSITE LINKS MATT HOLLIDAY WITH GOLDEN SHOWERS
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Giants linked to Marlon Byrd and Jason Marquis
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/07/SPNG1B0CEU.DTL
Both share the same agent, I really don’t want Byrd to fly near AT&T but I’d welcome Marquis. He basically guarantees playoffs or Giants get their money back.
Win the inning.
No Byrd, and Marquis is gonna get too much.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Marquis doesn’t seem like any sort of fit at all unless they want to trade Sanchez.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Hooray!
Oh, you mean the pitcher. Boo!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 9, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Do what now?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Washington’s signing of Ivan Rodriguez to a two-year, $6 million contract could turn the market for catchers against the Giants and force them to hand rookie Buster Posey the regular’s role, after all.
Upon hearing this information, Giants manager Bruce Bochy was quoted as saying “OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
Then he dais “BORK”
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Holy Shit
Dyslexic much?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Too much sugar.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Not today. i only had a chocolate covered bannana for dessert.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
HOW DISAPPOINTING
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
ONLY 99 BORK BORK IDIOT!
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Buster Posey Game #100, 2010:
Jon Miler: “And Cain throws the first pitch of the game and LOOKOUT! The ball sails right past Posey’s glove and hit the umpire in the chest. The head umpire shakes it off and gives Posey a new ball… and the ball just slipped right out of Posey’s outscretched hand. Unusual beginning. Posey picks up the ball and tosses the ball to… the left fielder Eugenio Velez. What the heck is going on with rookie sensation Buster Posey? Now he’s dancing. He’s removed his catcher gear and is doing the chicken dance on home plate. Bochy better pull this guy, he obviously can’t catch 100 games in a season.”
"It's too late now."
For those wondering about Correia...
While Kouzmanoff was prominently involved in rumored deals with the San Francisco Giants and Minnesota Twins, Correia’s agent, Barry Axelrod, held a “productive” 45-minute meeting with general manager Jed Hoyer in Indianapolis and headed home with a contract offer.
Axelrod, who headed home a day early to beat a blizzard forecast for Wednesday, said he expects further discussions regarding Correia-- who went 12-11 with a 3.91 ERA in a team-high 33 starts-- later in the week.
“Nothing’s final, but we’re in the process of talking about a deal,” Axelrod said by phone. “The proposal was not jumped at, but we’ll talk again. … Kevin’s choice is to stay in San Diego for a variety of reasons. The only reason (he’d leave) would be if he was not compensated appropriately.”
One source said the two sides are not discussing a multiyear deal. The Padres probably want to see more success from Correia, who has a 26-33 career record, but flourished in his first season working with pitching coach Darren Balsley and manager Bud Black after signing a minor-league deal last offseason.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Maybe I'm being generous or delusional
But I’m very happy with the moves Sabean HASN’T made up until now. Would it have surprised anyone if we gave Pudge that deal? Or gave up too much for Kouz/Uggla?
Thusfar, every time we’ve heard that someone wanted too much for a player, Sabean has backed off quick.
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This
I agree that Sabean has been doing a great job sitting on his hands thus far… I just hope his thumb doesn’t start wandering in the meanwhile.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 8, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
This is the kinda stuff that deserves to be in somebody’s sig
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
There is much worse Sabean could be doing
.287 .323 .455 .778
Those are Kouzmanoff’s numbers away from Petco last year.
And looks like he was a plus with the glove.
I don’t mind this much, as Pablo was above average in the field at 1B.
Of course this would mean no Nick Johnson.
Perhaps it means he’s going to give Bowker another shot.
I’d prefer that.
11:29pm: Ed Price of AOL FanHouse hears that the Angels are exploring a trade for an infielder. Price’s source says the infielder is likely Maicer Izturis, but could also be Howie Kendrick.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 10:25 PM PST reply actions
OT
Anyone around here have thoughts on Firefox vs. Google Chrome? I’m a longtime FF user who’s had no trouble with it at all. (I use only the Twitter and Gmail extensions.)
Just tried Chrome, though, on the advice of friends. It’s faster but seems to be a little buggy on McC.
Used FF, converted to Chrome, converted back.
FF is the superior browser if you’re running any kind of decent computer. Chrome has its place if you’re on a slow machine or only do basic browsing, but FF is more intuitive and enjoyable.
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Chrome is really fast, but still has some kinks to work out at the moment. Once it gets more stable and gets extensions/addons, I imagine a lot of people will switch to it. I use Opera though.
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I use both, depending on my mood. I like Chrome’s clean interface and, as GiantPain and Natto say, it’s faster. Much faster. For some reason, the first time I click on the Firefox icon after a fresh boot, it takes freaking 40 seconds to actually launch. I disabled all add-ons (not that I have all that many) to see if that was the issue, but it didn’t really help.
And besides, add-ons are what make Firefox indispensable. I in particular rely on AdBlock and DownloadHelper, and I’ve just recently discovered Ghostery.
by non sequitur on Dec 9, 2009 12:27 AM PST up reply actions
I used to be a Firefox fanboy, but v3 gave me a ton of problems that I was never able to rectify. It was deleting my history, forgetting about plug-ins I’d installed. No, I did not have a virus. It was bizarre. I switched to Chrome and I’m really happy with it. The lack of add-ons sucks, but it’s already pretty immune to pop-ups and automatically downloads plug-ins. It also scans every link for you for safety. And it’s fast.
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Does anybody know where one can find those spray charts for individual hitters, such as the one of Damon that demonstrated how his power would drop precipitously upon playing many more games at Mays Field?
Specifically I’m wondering about Dan Uggla, but a general link to reference for all hitters would be nice.
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also you can find them on mlb.com
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Uggla's power would transfer extremely well to AT&T
All of his home runs, basically, are to left, where Land Shark is actually about 20 feet farther out.
Hitting chart: http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/stats/individual_player_hitting_chart.jsp?c_id=fla&playerID=462564&statType=1
Uggla actually has a ton of flyouts on the warning track that would be HR’s in ATT. It would not be surprising to see him increase his HR totals by 5-10 if he came here.
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Thanks all. Is there a weather effect increasing longitude (that better be the right one)? Or is my thinking it’s similar to the AZ situation skewed because of humidity?
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The two stadia have virtually identical left field dimensions. However, Land Shark is notorious for its terrible hitter’s backdrop and the humidity can certainly dampen power.
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Pitcher Ben Sheets’ agent, Casey Close, plans to meet with the Giants.
Good.
Club and industry sources said the Giants are hoping to sign one from among the following pool of infielders: first baseman Nick Johnson, third baseman Adrian Beltre and versatile Mark DeRosa. They would play DeRosa at third, allowing Freddy Sanchez to remain at second.
One other possibility, second baseman Orlando Hudson, brings enough defensive upside that it might be worth moving Sanchez to third and Sandoval to first. First baseman Adam LaRoche is a back-burner option.
I wouldn’t prioritize DeRosa and LaRoche, but that FA list is serviceable. Guess we’ll have to improve the OF from within.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
i approve of most of these choices
i’d prefer no derosa and laroche should be a last-ditch option, but johnson or beltre would be great with me.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
and i really do think we have the pieces to improve the outfield from within
not entirely sure the giants will use the right ones, of course, but… hey Thomas Neal will be ready by July right???
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Don't worry
We already have our cornerstone budding superstar OF.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
BOWKERMANIA RETURNS!!!?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
The Giants are looking to add thump to their lineup, but not if it leads to more clanks in their infield.
haha Baggs has to be giving a shoutout to McC again there with the use of “clanks”
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
how picky can the team afford to be?
is there youth + thump + good defense + corner infielder (+ OBP) + affordable asking price/term available in the free agent or trade markets? No. There’s no perfect attainable player(s) out there.
At some point, the team may have to sacrifice some defense or youth or OBP or money to get a upgrade in offense. Hopefully, it’ll be a net overall upgrade, but the it may just be marginal once you start sacrificing quality.
Or they can just go with internal options and take the lumps that come with that.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
I swear, one of us is Baggs. We may never know who
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 9, 2009 12:34 AM PST up reply actions
Mike Fox
or maybe E
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting:
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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meatspin?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Oh come on, this one has barely been used!
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